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The Man Who Knew Too Much

theodp writes "For thrilling competition, Slate says the Tour de France pales next to the 25-game reign of Jeopardy! supercontestant Ken Jennings. The 30-year-old software engineer has won a total of $788,960, beating the previous record-holder by a margin of over $600,000. Watching KenJen play is like witnessing any great athlete in top form: He's the Michael Jordan of trivia, the Seabiscuit of geekdom, and his antics have once again made Jeopardy! required viewing. (Update: 26 wins and $828,960: 'When Jennings ran the Marvel comics category during the second round, host Alex Trebek asked: Have you done anything besides read comics? It pays to be a nerd, Jennings responded.')"

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  1. Fun fact: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    There are more hens & chicken that humans on earth.

  2. movie? by maxbang · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh lord, I hope they don't make a movie about this guy forty years from now and expose him as some kind of patsy in an elaborate scheme to sell more vitamin juice for old people.

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    1. Re:movie? by FU_Fish · · Score: 1

      Oh, but he is just a patsy in an elaborate scheme to sell more vitamin juice for old people.

    2. Re:movie? by PingPongBoy · · Score: 1

      I've seen the movie. He's the Oracle

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  3. He's on the wrong show. by hal2814 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Jennings were on Who Wants to be a Millionaire, he could already have more money by now (and it wouldn't take him a month to do it).

    1. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Maybe he's planning that for the encore. Double his money in a single day's work!

    2. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Apocalypse111 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      With his track record on Jeapordy, there is no way they would allow him anywhere near the set of Millionaire. I mean, if you knew that having this guy on your game would make you lose $1 million, would you do it?

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    3. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Sancho · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hell yeah. I'd just advertise the hell out of it.

    4. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With his track record on Jeapordy, there is no way they would allow him anywhere near the set of Millionaire. I mean, if you knew that having this guy on your game would make you lose $1 million, would you do it?

      You know, I always have suspected that they choose people who got the always-stupidly-simple qualification questions wrong. Self preservation!

    5. Re:He's on the wrong show. by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but if he would have went to Millionaire first, they wouldn't know about him.

    6. Re:He's on the wrong show. by twoshortplanks · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, if it meant that you'd get a flock of people who wanted to watch the show and the combined revenue from advertising (both for this show, people who watch following shows because they liked this show) and resale rights is more than the million.

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    7. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Mr.FreakyBig · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No. If you watch him play, he gets answers wrong from time to time. In Millionaire, he'd be screwed, and bounce back to $16000 or $32000 for a wrong answer, and he'd be done. In Jeopardy! a wrong answer erases a bit of case, but only small amounts, and he does not get kicked off the show. Instead he get to continue. All he has to do is be better than the other two contestants, and know a bunch of trivia.

    8. Re:He's on the wrong show. by donnyspi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's right. Before last night, he got 3 Final Jeopardys wrong in a row. That's big, but not big enough to make him lose on jeopardy. In Millionaire though, he would have multiple choice at least.

    9. Re:He's on the wrong show. by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      On Millionaire, who the heck would he call for his Lifeline?

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    10. Re:He's on the wrong show. by bwalling · · Score: 1

      If Jennings were on Who Wants to be a Millionaire, he could already have more money by now (and it wouldn't take him a month to do it).

      They probably filmed those episodes in a week or two at most.

    11. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Solar+Limb · · Score: 1, Funny

      Imagine a beowulf cluster of KenJens.

      Oh yes -- I went there.

    12. Re:He's on the wrong show. by cuzality · · Score: 3, Funny

      Forget who he'd call -- this guy is the ultimate "phone a friend".

    13. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Proaxiom · · Score: 1
      They probably filmed those episodes in a week or two at most.

      No, it would have been five weeks or so filming the episodes. They film one week's worth of episodes in a day, and then take the rest of the week off.

      Game show hosting is good work if you can get it.

    14. Re:He's on the wrong show. by HaloZero · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Disagree. This way, he's got a significant amount to show for it if he flubs up. On Millionare, you could get stiffed by a question that they had the wrong answer to, anyway (referring to a gentics question as the 500,000$ prize, to which they had the ultimate wrong answer; the guy got it wrong, anyway, but if he had used that 50/50 lifeline or whatever and they removed the appropriate answer, there would have been legal trouble, guaranteed.)

      Besides, earning yourself 1,000,000 over a months time going head to head with 52 other people, you take more than just money away from that experience - you take away satisfaction.

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    15. Re:He's on the wrong show. by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There was a guy in Croatia who made a nice income from the local version of the show. I think he was eventually banned as a phone a friend. Here you go.

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    16. Re:He's on the wrong show. by XO · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If there's a wrong answer on Millionaire, and you can prove it, you need to contact them - at least once, i know, they have called the player back, and restarted the game at the point where the incorrect answer was.

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    17. Re:He's on the wrong show. by mog007 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You don't seriously believe that they only film one episode a day, do you? He's probably gotten that money over the course of at least half the time it's taken to be aired. Sure, he'd still get the money faster on Millionare, but I saw him a few times, and I have to say that I'm glad there's someone to put Trebeck in his place, WITHOUT the cards.

    18. Re:He's on the wrong show. by schnits0r · · Score: 1

      AN Easy Job: Answering the Hard Questions on Millionaire A Hard Job: Answering the Easy Questions on Jepardy. Yea, It's sad, but true.

    19. Re:He's on the wrong show. by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Umm... half the stuff on Millionaire is REALLY easy. For an example, (if the reviews are right) try the PC game ;-) (OK, so that's a bit extreme, but it's pretty similar to the real show, if I remember the show correctly)

      Jeopardy is much harder, but Millionaire is more stressful because you don't get any chances to fsck up.

    20. Re:He's on the wrong show. by red+floyd · · Score: 4, Informative

      Speaking from experience (I came in 2nd in 1991) they film 5 episodes a day. They used to tape two days per week.

      When did they change the rules? It used to be that you could be on 5 times... max, at which point you retired as an "undefeated 5 time champion".

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    21. Re:He's on the wrong show. by JewFish · · Score: 1

      You don't bounce back to $16000 in Millionaire, as once you reach $32000 your guarnteed to leave with that much.

    22. Re:He's on the wrong show. by wanerious · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You might be right, but I was on Wheel of Fortune back in 1990, and the usual schedule was to tape 4 days of 5 shows per day, getting at least a month's worth per week. I think Wheel still keeps to that schedule, and I thought Jeopardy did too.

    23. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 4, Funny

      If I was on millionaire and lost on one question, I'd totally be like "I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. Shit. I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail."

    24. Re:He's on the wrong show. by agallagh42 · · Score: 2, Informative

      "When did they change the rules? It used to be that you could be on 5 times... max, at which point you retired as an "undefeated 5 time champion"."

      It was very recently. I think within the past year. They made a big deal out of it when they changed the rules. Now the champion keeps playing until they lose.

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    25. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine everyone around you puking their guts out at the utterance of your horrendous geek joke.

    26. Re:He's on the wrong show. by nasor · · Score: 1

      What were the specifics of the 'wrong' question? I'd like to hear more.

    27. Re:He's on the wrong show. by HaloZero · · Score: 1

      I'm not very sure anymore. It was a few years ago, now. Three, I think (entering 2nd year of college, was middle of junior year of high school).

      The question was asking what method genes use to pass themselves along to the next generation. Though I'm sure there was a bit in there about expression. The correct answer was alleel, I'm prettty sure of that, as my chem teacher (also a bio teacher for a bunch of other classes at the time) made a huge stink about it in class on the next day.

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    28. Re:He's on the wrong show. by freakmn · · Score: 1

      You might look pretty stupid, if the question was something like: "What is the official flower of Bangladesh?" I don't know how you could mess up a decimal point on that one...

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    29. Re:He's on the wrong show. by recursiv · · Score: 2, Funny

      Congratulations. you get the joke. However, it is stupdendously unfunny to explain the punchline in such a literal way.

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    30. Re:He's on the wrong show. by tntguy · · Score: 0

      It may not have been Millionaire, but I seem to remember this question: What does "COM" in ".COM" mean? A. Comedy B. Computer C. Company D. Commercial. The guy said D and they said it was C.

    31. Re:He's on the wrong show. by rev063 · · Score: 1

      This is correct. Last year I went to a taping session at the Sony studios at Culver City, LA. They tape five shows a day. The ones I saw aired about 6 months later.

    32. Re:He's on the wrong show. by damien_kane · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm glad there's someone to put Trebeck in his place

      Well, there are always Norm MacDonald...

      "Turd Furgusen... it's a funny name"

    33. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Ezubaric · · Score: 1


      R. Robert Hentzel or Tom Waters ...

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    34. Re:He's on the wrong show. by ChairmanMeow · · Score: 1

      It was on the show Greed that was on Fox for a while.

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    35. Re:He's on the wrong show. by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      The amazing thing is that he usually goes into final jeopardy so far ahead of the other two contestants that he could wager ten grand and miss the question while the other two wager everything they have and get it right and he still comes out on top!

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    36. Re:He's on the wrong show. by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      If he were on Who Wants to be a Millionaire his earnings would be capped. If he continues to hang in there he'll pass the one million mark on Jeopardy.

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    37. Re:He's on the wrong show. by ePhil_One · · Score: 5, Informative
      I suspect the real ability he has is his hand buzzer reaction time. If I recall, you can't buzz in as soon as the question is answered, you have to wait until Alex reads the question, then a signal light is turned on off camera. Pushing the button before the light comes on triggers a two second lockout. So you have time to decide if you are going for it, then concentrate on buzzing in. Like drag racing, its knowing more questions to answers, it being first off the line so you have more opportunities.

      And as far as the record goes, an important factor is that until recently after 5 wins a champion was retired, and would only come back for a tournament of champions. So he's the first "champion" to be given this opportunity.

      Which is not to imply that he's not preternaturally smart, just that there's more to it than just trivia capacity.

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    38. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kick ass!! I love that show. I don't know much jeopardy, but I can hold my own on the wheel!

      This jeopardy cat was a real smart guy. I watched It and he would just anger me because I did not know the answers.

    39. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
      Like drag racing, its knowing more questions to answers, it being first off the line so you have more opportunities.
      What the fuck are you trying to say?!? Learn to write a sentence, Corky.
    40. Re:He's on the wrong show. by djrosen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No chance of him even coming close to the 10 Million on Millionaire. One of Ken's Strengths is the ability to make EXCELLENT educated Guesses, but Millionaire is not as forgiving and the mindset of the player is much different. In Jeopardy you dont really have to be afraid of a wrong answer so Ken will make his Guesses, but he isnt always right. Its my belief that Ken would not make it to the 10 million dollar mark.

      FWIW, Regis talks about him almost daily and will have him on the show if and when the run ends.

    41. Re:He's on the wrong show. by nlindstrom · · Score: 2, Funny
      You can travel around the world and not find a better phone-a-friend than Samual Adams.

      Sam Adams: always the right choice.

    42. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ken Jennings is a member of NAQT, the same company whose CFO, Kevin Olmstead, won $2.18 million on Millionaire. Presumably he would call Eric Hillemann, the same lifeline that Kevin Olmstead used.

    43. Re:He's on the wrong show. by gogoguez3000 · · Score: 1

      If Ken were on Millionaire and he won the whole thing he would be a 2 day celeb and that's only if he won. This way not only has he been on t.v. for over a month of shows he's getting a lot more national coverage for a longer period of time. I'm surprised this is the first time he has been mentioned here on \. Would you pass up a $63,766.15 per hour job? Talk about news for nerds stuff that matters

    44. Re:He's on the wrong show. by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      "Would you pass up a $63,766.15 per hour job?"

      Only for a $1,000,000 per hour job.

    45. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes - the unlimited winning run is new for this season. Given the huge volume of negative feedback we are receiving from viewers (I work for an abc affiliate) I very strongly suspect this will be a one season thing.

    46. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He will also have the opportunity to return for the tournament of champions.

    47. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its the tolerance of others mistakes that I love about Slashdot ;)

    48. Re:He's on the wrong show. by detlev409 · · Score: 1

      Not gonna happen. Conflicting networks share a spotlight? Doubtful. Although, it'd be a perfect way to draw Jeopardy viewers away, considering they both air in the same timeslot...hmm...you may be on to something after all.

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    49. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Trackster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Another difference is that the questions are now worth 2X as much as they used to be in the old rules.

    50. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Uart · · Score: 1

      The old format also used to have a tournament flavor to it if I remember correctly. Didn't they bring back all of the big winners at the end of the month or something too? I haven't watched in a while, so maybe I just don't remember.

      Anyway, it would seem that with the new format, doing that might be difficult.

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    51. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Dwonis · · Score: 1

      What if Neo didn't take any of them?

    52. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Spillman · · Score: 1

      As I recall, in colonial times, Sam Adams was notorious for breweing really bad beer.

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    53. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anhydrous · · Score: 1

      According to this Tournament of Champions contestant, the lockout time is actually somewhere around 1/5 of a second.

    54. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, his buzzer reaction time has to be great, but I think the thing that really sets him apart from the others is not his speed in coming up with the answer, but his speed in knowing whether or not he can figure it out. You'll see alot of times where he barely gets his answer in in the 5 second window, but he buzzed in because he knew he could come up with that answer in 5 seconds.

    55. Re:He's on the wrong show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey Einstein, if you knew how to play this simple game "Jeopardy", the sentence would make perfect sense.

  4. Proud? by rpbailey1642 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm actually really impressed that this man is getting so much respect (and money!) for how much he knows. Most of it is useless trivia, but to most people, that comes across as intelligence...a man is getting respect for his intelligence, on daytime TV. Awesome.

    1. Re:Proud? by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1, Funny

      a man is getting respect for his intelligence, on daytime TV. Awesome

      Respect. On Daytime TV?
      Interesting.

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    2. Re:Proud? by mrchaotica · · Score: 0

      That's actually a pet peeve of mine, since I'm intelligent but absentminded. Remember, people: intelligence != knowledge!

      Good for him for being knowledgable, though.

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    3. Re:Proud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only are you intelligent, but you are modest too!

    4. Re:Proud? by CaseyB · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Most of it is useless trivia, but to most people, that comes across as intelligence...

      Any one fact by itself is "useless trivia". But assorted "useless trivia" questions are just a way of gathering a random sampling of the entire body of knowledge that someone has.

      If you're going to reliably answer a question about who happened to be president in a given year, then you pretty much have to know the entire chronology of the presidency.

    5. Re:Proud? by maxbang · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ah, yes, you say useless trivia. This proves that useless trivia is far from useless, given the right circumstances. Nothing is not worth knowing.

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    6. Re:Proud? by rembem · · Score: 5, Informative

      The terms used in psychology are 'fluid intelligence' and 'crystallized intelligence'

      Fluid Intelligence is "a natural ability which is not dependant on acquired knowledge" Crystallized Intelligence is "ability dependent on acquired knowledge"

    7. Re:Proud? by k98sven · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Intelligence is not knowledge, but there is are relations between the two.
      An important part of what most of us regard as 'intelligence' is the ability to 'see' how things relate to one another and form conclusions about them.

      One way to do that is to form an abstraction in your head.
      Another way is to form an analogy and relate it to something which you do know.

      For example the conclusion: "Fighting a war on two fronts is bad", could be reached either by abstract reasoning along the lines of how a two front war would divide one's resources and increase the chance of loosing the war. Or you could form an analogy to Germany loss in WWI.

      The way I see it, they compliment eachother. But naturally, knowledge in itself is not intelligence, because you need a certain amount of abstract skills to be able to recognize an analogy.

      I Am Not A Cognitive Psychologist, however.

    8. Re:Proud? by AGMW · · Score: 3, Funny
      Nothing is not worth knowing.

      For example, I know that if you are standed at the North Pole and are starving and are
      a) foolish enough to try and kill a polar bear ... and
      b) lucky enough to succeed
      do NOT eat the liver as it will kill you because it is loaded with Vitamin A (as discovered by some hapless explorers many years ago!).

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    9. Re:Proud? by IdleTime · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess he is "Gloria" from "White men can't jump!"...

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    10. Re:Proud? by DZign · · Score: 1

      thanks, that's interesting.
      Btw when you're there, don't try to survive eating penguins - but I won't tell you why :-)

    11. Re:Proud? by neuroklinik · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Useless trivia? Last I heard, this guy had won over $800,000 because of all this useless trivia. Doesn't seem so useless now, does it?

    12. Re:Proud? by rpbailey1642 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Afraid of the Canadian Linux user groups/lynch mobs?

    13. Re:Proud? by AGMW · · Score: 3, Funny
      Btw when you're there, don't try to survive eating penguins - but I won't tell you why :-)
      Afraid of the Canadian Linux user groups/lynch mobs?

      Nope, you get frostbite.

      You have to take your gloves off to remove the foil.

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    14. Re:Proud? by mr_jrt · · Score: 1

      Because penguins are only in the antartic, so you'd probably starve before you caught one in the artic :)

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    15. Re:Proud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't even call it knowledge, it's just information (or data). There is a distinction between the two. Knowledge is something that an agent can use to solve a problem or acheive a goal. Information is just facts, that can of course be used to generate knowledge (which in turn may generate more information). I'm an expert systems guy though so it might not matter in this context. In that light though, there is a difference between a database and a knowledge-based system. So, is this guy just a human database management system?

    16. Re:Proud? by HuguesT · · Score: 1

      No penguins at the North pole?

    17. Re:Proud? by Politburo · · Score: 1

      ...a man is getting respect for his intelligence, on daytime TV.

      What moron station puts Jeopardy on during the day? How the hell are you supposed to watch it then? 7 PM, WABC. Jeopardy. It's more important than Wapner.

    18. Re:Proud? by pangloss · · Score: 4, Funny

      For example the conclusion: "Fighting a war on two fronts is bad", could be reached either by abstract reasoning along the lines of how a two front war would divide one's resources and increase the chance of loosing the war. Or you could form an analogy to Germany loss in WWI.

      The way I see it, they compliment eachother.


      Abstract Reasoning: Why Analogy, what a nice dress you're wearing today!

      Analogy: Abstract, where did you get that scarf? You always show such remarkable taste.

    19. Re:Proud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any one fact by itself is "useless trivia". But assorted "useless trivia" questions are just a way of gathering a random sampling of the entire body of knowledge that someone has.

      If you're going to reliably answer a question about who happened to be president in a given year, then you pretty much have to know the entire chronology of the presidency.


      Which is way less trivial information than, say, expert medical knowledge. Weird that there's no expert medical knowledge category on Jeopardy.

    20. Re:Proud? by hcdejong · · Score: 0

      Duh, that's what a VCR is for.

    21. Re:Proud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can eat it, just not much at any given time. If you were stranded in the north pole you'd need to ration your food anyway..

    22. Re:Proud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, and all I ever got was 3.2 million players plus points playing NTN.

    23. Re:Proud? by Enigma_Man · · Score: 1

      What is this strange Vee Cee Arr you mutter about? Is that anything like a TiVo or what have you?

      -Jesse

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    24. Re:Proud? by blacksway · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because they spent all their time watching Jeopardy instead of working?

    25. Re:Proud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Hey did you notice they moved where they do the interview on Jeopardy now?

      Ya it used to be right in the middle of single Jeopardy and now they do it right after single Jeopardy.

      Ya, it's much better isn't it?

      Oh, n-no comparison.

    26. Re:Proud? by hcdejong · · Score: 1

      Sadly, most of the world (read, every country except the USA, UK, Japan and Germany) still doesn't have anything like TiVo.

    27. Re:Proud? by pinopino · · Score: 1

      Nothing is not worth knowing.
      Well, except for what happens after you die. Of course, if the atheists are right, the statement is still true.

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    28. Re:Proud? by shaitand · · Score: 1

      They can't, there are dozens of other fields that require a body of knowledge as complex and broad as that of doctors.

      But doctors are as a group pompous pricks. They would be in an uproar when they found out there are a number of people who can rattle off the answers in that category faster than they can.

    29. Re:Proud? by Rai · · Score: 1

      Most of it is useless trivia, but to most people, that comes across as intelligence

      Yeah, I've always had a problem with that. "Ooh. Him answer every question in Potpourri category. Him smart!" Give this guy a trig problem and let's see how smart he is.

      I'll equate intelligence with game shows when someone starts the $100,000 Cold Fusion Pyramid. :)

    30. Re:Proud? by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      Not really true. Especially the kind of trivia on these shows: you might know enough to be able to say that e=mc^2 should actually be e=m*gamma(u)*c^2, but that doesn't neccessarily mean you can do lorentztransformations or calculate schrodinger functions.

      Intelligence means being able to use a collection of facts to do something. Knowing a lot of facts just means you know a lot of facts.

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    31. Re:Proud? by sk8king · · Score: 1

      I thought it was Vitamin E [something in a Farley Mowat book years ago that I have probably not remembered properly]

    32. Re:Proud? by sk8king · · Score: 1

      When in fact, a quick google search reveals....ta dah...Vitamin A is in fact the dangerous part of the polar bear liver due to the fact that polar bears feast upon fish-eating mammals and the vitamin A accumulates in their liver.

    33. Re:Proud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Intelligence means being able to use a collection of facts to do something. Knowing a lot of facts just means you know a lot of facts."

      I don't know about that-- you can teach a retard to tie his shoes, but he still doesn't understand topology.

      I'd bet Stephen Hawking knows a hell of a lot about topology, but I'd like to see *him* tie his shoes.

    34. Re:Proud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Arctic
      Antarctic

    35. Re:Proud? by hackstraw · · Score: 1

      Nothing is not worth knowing.

      Try to not think about that 3 times fast :)

    36. Re:Proud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah! Digital recorders for developing nations now! It's the only humanly responsible thing to do!

    37. Re:Proud? by Le+Marteau · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Any one fact by itself is "useless trivia". But assorted "useless trivia" questions are just a way of gathering a random sampling of the entire body of knowledge that someone has.

      I remember when I was having my head shrinked. The psychiatrist gave me a battery of tests. He asked me about 10 'useless trivia' questions, e.g. "Who wrote 'Faust'" (I replied "Goeth", pronounced it just like that, not the German pronunciation.) Another question: "Where is Egypt?" (Africa, of course). I forget the rest.

      The shrink was using the questions to gauge my general body of knowledge. Combined with other metrics, a general picture of a person's state of mind and persona develops. Certainly, someone who knows who wrote 'Faust' and where Egypt, and the other questions, is a very different person from someone who knows none of the answers. Plus, the fact that I pronounced "Goethe" the way it is would be pronounced if it were an American name, is telling, as it showed that I obtained that knowledge by reading, rather than through a lecture or a TV show. It also showed I was not German, and had not studied the language to any real degree.

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    38. Re:Proud? by Le+Marteau · · Score: 1

      Nothing is not worth knowing

      Most of the time, that's true. But I know what the goatse guy's backside looks like, and THAT is knowledge I could do without.

      Oh, only if it were possible to erase a mental image. That pic traumatized me for life.

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    39. Re:Proud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The US fought a two-front war from 1941-45. Was that bad? Not having enough resources to fight a two-front war is bad, not two fronts. Now, moving along to 2004...

    40. Re:Proud? by 3vi1 · · Score: 1

      Yes, yes.. because penguins live at the south pole. Thank you Encyclopedia Brown, you've saved the day again.

    41. Re:Proud? by Omerna · · Score: 1

      How can the way you pronounce the name of an author POSSIBLY indicate that you read the book rather than just hearing about it? I expect most people who've read a book can pronounce the author's name correctly, especially if the author is famous.

      I'd say how you pronounce a name (and your reason for doing so) indicates how smart you think you are.

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    42. Re:Proud? by Le+Marteau · · Score: 1

      How can the way you pronounce the name of an author POSSIBLY indicate that you read the book rather than just hearing about it?

      *sigh*

      I never said "it showed that I obtained that knowledge by reading,".

      BY READING. I didn't say BY READING THE BOOK.

      It's like my Mom; she was in some kind of college course, and said "Frood". Not "Freud" but "Frood". Obviously, she had learned of what she was speaking by READING. Not necessarily by reading Freud, but reading OF Frood. Had she heard of Frood in a lecture, or on TV, she would have pronounced it properly.

      I expect most people who've read a book can pronounce the author's name correctly

      Would you have properly pronounced "Goethe" if you had never heard it? Once again, I never read Faust, but read ABOUT it.

      I was at a book store, and the clerk was shelving with another clerk, and said "Le Gooin". I corrected her, "Le Guin". Totally understandable.

      Thanks for listening. Now STFU.

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    43. Re:Proud? by Jim+Starx · · Score: 1

      I think what happens after you die is definitly worth knowing no matter what your religion is.

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    44. Re:Proud? by gryphokk · · Score: 1
      The terms used in psychology are 'fluid intelligence' and 'crystallized intelligence'

      Fluid Intelligence is "a natural ability which is not dependant on acquired knowledge" Crystallized Intelligence is "ability dependent on acquired knowledge"


      Thanks -- I needed those labels. They apply so well to teaching people a task on computers. I try to guide someone through a process and they want to write town every step. I tell them "Tools:Protect Document:For Forms" and they grab a pen, then grab a pad, then say, "OK, what was that? Tools? Then what."

      Aaaagh! You can write it down, but it'll be different next week. Learn the tools not the motions!

      /rant

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    45. Re:Proud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? How will it help you?

      When you die, you're either dead, gone, the end, or, there's an afterlife. If there's nothing, does it change how you live your life (aside from dithich all the church nonsense so you can sleep in on Sundays)? If there is an afterlife, what are you gonna do? Prepare for it so you can get a head start? People have been dying for millenia, I don't think that'll be very useful, plus you clutter up your now-life with useless shit. And if you think you can affect the quality of your 'afterlife' (as in heaven vs hell) then, well, what can I tell you... Have fun.

    46. Re:Proud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Intelligence means being able to use a collection of facts to do something.
      Winning close to a million dollars on Jeopardy! is certainly something.
    47. Re:Proud? by Arcanix · · Score: 1

      Saying it's useless trivia is somewhat redundant since the word itself means insignificant or inessential...

    48. Re:Proud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it does still seem useless. Dude, I know you're a dirt-poor open source guy, but that's not a lot of money. Bucket loads of people make more than that, or are given more than that, or are simply born or married into the right family, and thereby get more than that. Often for doing jack shit. If you work at Microsoft you could make that much from your stock, just for showing up and piddling with some service packs or something.

    49. Re:Proud? by Jim+Starx · · Score: 1

      If death wasn't such an unknown then people wouldn't be as frightened of it.

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    50. Re:Proud? by Deadstick · · Score: 1
      As a software person, this chap's well ahead of one of the quiz show superstars of the Fifties...I think I know his name, but won't mention it because I may have two of them mixed up. Anyway, he knew every useless fact you could imagine, but was totally incapable of forming an insight. Even as a media figure he could never hold a real job, and the show winnings were essentially his lifetime income.

      rj

    51. Re:Proud? by Dwonis · · Score: 1

      How is a trig problem significantly different than answering Potpourri? All you need to do is memorize the theorems (and not even all the details) and plug numbers into the formulas.

    52. Re:Proud? by Le+Marteau · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, in case anyone is interested, "Goethe" is pronouced "Gerr ta"

      While I'm at it, 'Nietzche' is pronounced 'Nee Chuh'. Rhymes with the New Jersey-ism "Double Feechuh" Drives me crazy when people say it "Nee Chee"

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    53. Re:Proud? by splintsd · · Score: 1

      Knowledge of trivia does not equal intelligence. I know people that can tell you how many times some guy picked his nose in the 1986 World Series but can't set the clock on his VCR.

    54. Re:Proud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jeopardy airs at 7pm, turd licker.

    55. Re:Proud? by Rai · · Score: 1

      I was just trying to convey that true intelligent should be eqauted with problem-solving, not being a database of trivial knowledge. Anyone can store information, but intelligence is (should be) measured by how you use it.

  5. Tonari no Totoro by Karrde712 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Personally, I thought it was wonderful when Jennings announced that his good luck charm was a stuffed Totoro doll from Tonari no Totoro (My Neighbor Totoro), a Studio Ghibli/Hayao Miyazaki animated film. (See nausicaa.net for more)

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    1. Re:Tonari no Totoro by dirkdidit · · Score: 1

      It seems like Ken is quite well rounded in respects to movies. After all, he said he maintains a list of his 2,000 most favorite movies online, so I assume if he has 2,000 favorite, he's probably seen many, many more.

      Speaking of, does anybody know the website where he keeps this list? I'd be interested in seeing what tops his list.

    2. Re:Tonari no Totoro by sglane81 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ken is well rounded in everything except Country music and something else (can't remember). He stated this a while ago. He is one of the BYU team that selects questions for the College Bowl

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    3. Re:Tonari no Totoro by sglane81 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It was Country music and "potent potables" since he doesn't drink. He is also a mormon and will be tithing some of the earnings/winnings to the Latterday Saints.

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    4. Re:Tonari no Totoro by PhilHibbs · · Score: 2, Informative
      According to this:
      The website is down at the moment, undergoing a Jeopardy-related overhaul. D'oh!

    5. Re:Tonari no Totoro by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      Personally, I thought it was wonderful when Jennings announced that his good luck charm was a stuffed Totoro doll from Tonari no Totoro

      If ever a good luck charm contained any genuine magic, it would naturally have to be a totoro. This seems almost axiomatic in its certainty...

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    6. Re:Tonari no Totoro by D-Cypell · · Score: 2, Funny

      Jeopardotted?

    7. Re:Tonari no Totoro by wahsapa · · Score: 0

      i have a friend and this was one of his favorite movies growing up and im going to tell him to watch jeparody just to because one of the guys has a totoro doll and he probably will too

    8. Re:Tonari no Totoro by paitre · · Score: 2, Informative

      10%.
      And there is absolutely -NOTHING- wrong with this, either.
      I just watch this guy in absolute awe. I'm pretty good at trivia, but this guy just -owns- the freaking game. 800k, and counting, who -cares- that he's going to pay a 10% tithe to his Church, he's -still- not going to have to work for a while :)

    9. Re:Tonari no Totoro by Coward,+Anonymous · · Score: 1

      In this interview with Thom McKee, who had a 43 game streak on Tic-Tac-Dough, he mentions that he tithed his money as well.

    10. Re:Tonari no Totoro by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      It's an interesting factoid and that's all. Except for being woken up by them (at 1pm on saturday) the mormons have never done anything bad to me. In fact, for a while I rode to a class with some mormons, an A+ certification class (I needed the bump to my GPA.) They were really cool and we even discussed a little religion without anyone getting PO'd.

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    11. Re:Tonari no Totoro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't quite correct; Ken Jennings is a former member of the BYU College Bowl *team*, but he's never been associated with The College Bowl Company. He is a writer and editor for National Academic Quiz Tournaments, and has a brief biography on their member page.

    12. Re:Tonari no Totoro by GlassUser · · Score: 2, Funny

      Naw, no dot in "Jeopardy" (see the "dot" in "slashdot"). I'd just say that the site's present existance is in jeopardy.

    13. Re:Tonari no Totoro by Ezubaric · · Score: 1


      That's not quite right. He was a member of the BYU quiz bowl team, but it has since imploded because of budget cuts. He is, however, the literature and religion editor for NAQT, which is NOT the same as College Bowl (even though the format is pretty much the same ... NAQT has higher quality questions).

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    14. Re:Tonari no Totoro by Noofus · · Score: 1

      One of my favorites! Good movie to kill time with, not complicated, not overly sappy or anything. I want a Totoro for a pet :)

    15. Re:Tonari no Totoro by daeley · · Score: 2, Funny

      Jeopardead.

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    16. Re:Tonari no Totoro by portforward · · Score: 1

      Funny enough, I was actually at BYU at that time and even participated in the intramural College Bowls. Once I was invited to participate in the Intermural match that was held at Provo. I don't remember Ken though, too many years ago.

      Anyway, I am more proud that this guy went to my alma mater than the fact that 49'ers quarterback Steve Young also went to BYU. I would rather have Supreme Court Justices, Astronauts and Nobel Prize winners come from my school than Super-Bowl winning athletes. Congratulations Ken.

  6. Can you get away with cheating in Jeopardy? by jaf · · Score: 1

    I think some fellas from England tried it once. How did they do it? I believe they got caught.

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    1. Re:Can you get away with cheating in Jeopardy? by Echnin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well duh, obviously they got caught since you know about it. The possible good cheaters don't.

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    2. Re:Can you get away with cheating in Jeopardy? by BetterThanCaesar · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think you're thinking of "Who wants to be a millionaire?" There was a documentary about it called Millionaire: A Major Fraud.

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    3. Re:Can you get away with cheating in Jeopardy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was on Jeopardy, and it would be damned hard to cheat. Hitting the button is the hardest part, anyway. I usually know about 90% of the answers on any given show, including the three I appeared on, but getting to answer them is not always going to happen.

    4. Re:Can you get away with cheating in Jeopardy? by jaf · · Score: 1

      Right... that's the one! thanks!

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    5. Re:Can you get away with cheating in Jeopardy? by foidulus · · Score: 1

      It's almost impossible to cheat on Jeopardy. The questions come at you pretty rapidly and they are open ended(unlike the multiple choice in millionaire). You also have to be quick on your buzzer to win.
      If someone actually manages to cheat in Jeopardy, they deserve the money.

    6. Re:Can you get away with cheating in Jeopardy? by Dark$ide · · Score: 1
      I think some fellas from England tried it once.

      Unlikely, since Jeopardy! has never been franchised on this side of the pond.
      We did have the wonderful Major Charles Ingram who cheated on Millionaire.
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/37289 29.stm

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    7. Re:Can you get away with cheating in Jeopardy? by Malc · · Score: 1

      Do they even have Jeopardy in the UK? It seems to be a long-term deeply-ingrained cultural thing here in N. America, but I'd never heard of it before I emmigrated here from the UK nearly 10 years ago.

    8. Re:Can you get away with cheating in Jeopardy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure it has. Maybe not i the UK, but it has been running in Denmark since 1995...

      Site
      (In danish - sorry)

    9. Re:Can you get away with cheating in Jeopardy? by baronshenanigans · · Score: 1

      They did have it over here in the UK for a while, presented by Paul (brother of Jonathan) Ross. It bombed.

  7. He's fast on the button by tommasz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not only does Ken know a lot, he's got his "signalling button fu" working. He's going to be hard to beat as a result of that alone, as we've seen. But even when he guesses, he seems to guess correctly, so there's no doubt about the breadth of his knowledge. Go Ken!

    1. Re:He's fast on the button by Angry+Toad · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm pretty sure he hits the button without even considering whether he knows the answer - he's been caught out like that a couple of times, having pushed the button but with no idea what the answer is. I suspect he just trusts to his vast knowledge of trivia.

      My daughter has started rooting against him - "Enough!", she yells, "Ken is getting boring! Somebody make him lose!"

      Personally I think he will just decide to walk once he hits $1000000.

    2. Re:He's fast on the button by hal2814 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Personally I think he will just decide to walk once he hits $1000000."

      I don't think so. If I were in his place, I would keep going until I lost or they made me leave. There's not too many chances in life to rack up that kind of cash that quickly. He should and probably will take full advantage of it.

    3. Re:He's fast on the button by Sheltim · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "There's not too many chances in life to rack up that kind of cash that quickly. He should and probably will take full advantage of it."

      Even ignoring the fact that he's making so much money, I bet he's *enjoying* it. Who wouldn't want to have that much fun and then get paid for it?

    4. Re:He's fast on the button by HungWeiLo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Personally I think he will just decide to walk once he hits $1000000.

      Anybody else notice his slight political slant that he lents into his comments? It was towards the beginning of his reign. But in the last couple of shows, he jokes that he is now in favor of the Bush tax cuts.

      Speaking of which, does anyone else notice that Bush advertises on Wheel of Fortune and Kerry on Jeopardy?

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    5. Re:He's fast on the button by Augie+De+Blieck+Jr. · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The signaling button is no doubt an important part of the show. And last I heard, the J! producers put different people in charge of "turning on" the buzzers for every show. This way, you won't get one contestant in tune with one producer to lock into the timing. (Remember, you can't buzz in until AFTER Alex finishes reading the answer.)

      People often forget (or don't realize) that there is a certain amount of strategy involved with Jeopardy! Being smart and a trivia hound is definitely the first thing, but then the buzzer comes into play, and answer selection. (If you're under a minute to go in Double Jeopardy and another contestant is at -$2000, try hard not to pick a $2000 answer right away...)

      The idea I like the most to unseat KenJen is to bring back Chuck Forrest, Frank Spangenberg, etc. to compete against him. All out Super Jeopardy! brawl!

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    6. Re:He's fast on the button by kryptkpr · · Score: 5, Informative

      Personally I think he will just decide to walk once he hits $1000000.

      Ken has himself said (on the 23rd show I think it was; where a the lady got ~$1800 taken away retrospectivelly for saying 'Olympics' instead of 'Summer Olympics' and didn't end up with enough $$ to challenge him) that his goal is to be invited to become a writer for Jeopardy. All Jeopardy writers are previous contestants (according to Trebek).

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    7. Re:He's fast on the button by red+floyd · · Score: 5, Informative

      They have a light around the contest board. You can't ring in until the light goes on (otherwise, you have a 2 second lockout).

      Speaking from experience

      red floyd -- former Jeopardy! contestant

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    8. Re:He's fast on the button by rizzo420 · · Score: 1

      this is a big key, he's figured out how to do this... it doesn't require a lot of knowledge...

      also, the only reason he's the record holder is because they only recently removed the 5 day limit for being on the show. and i won't be surprised if they bring it back because while some people might think it's exciting to watch teh same guy win every night, others will find it boring. i don't think there's anything special about this guy at all. he's got a quick thumb, that's his weapon.

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    9. Re:He's fast on the button by akeyes · · Score: 1

      All Jeopardy writers are previous contestants (according to Trebek).

      So, who wrote the first questions...err...a...answers?

    10. Re:He's fast on the button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does anyone care about the timing of the commercials? You have too much time on your hands.

    11. Re:He's fast on the button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, who wrote the first questions...err...a...answers?

      Nearest I can tell, the answer has something to do with poultry..

    12. Re:He's fast on the button by tntguy · · Score: 0

      The chicken. No, the egg.

    13. Re:He's fast on the button by Tlosk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One of the bonuses to walking away when he hits 1 million is then it will be an open question how long he could have gone on for. Maybe there isn't anyone on the planet that could beat him, if he walks away that remains an open question, but if he keeps going until he gets beaten, well then we know the answer to that question.

    14. Re:He's fast on the button by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      This is trivia. Its sort of like poker- some schlub who never played before can beat the world champion on a single hand, if he's dealt a full house and the champ is dealt a pair. Here the world's greatest player can lose if he just gets a bad question mix one day.

      As a trivia player myself, I rather doubt he'd walk away. He's probably haing the time of his life.

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    15. Re:He's fast on the button by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      It makes sense. Hangman is about on Bush's level, so long as he doesn't need to pronounce the puzzle. Jeopardy is way over his head.

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    16. Re:He's fast on the button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Advertisers choose which shows to advertise on to target certain demographics. It is significant that Bush's campaign chooses to advertise on brainless shows while Kerry's does the opposite.

    17. Re:He's fast on the button by DarkFencer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Since Jeopardy and Wheel are syndicated, it could just be that way in your local market.

      Then again, I am in New York which will definately go Kerry so they don't bother wasting their money (either side) on ads here.

    18. Re:He's fast on the button by edsarkiss · · Score: 1

      makes good sense. wheel is for dumb people. jeopardy is for smart people.

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    19. Re:He's fast on the button by MurphyZero · · Score: 1

      That's probably to his advantage. I watched one or two of the later shows he's been on, and his opponents were not very good. His run has been built on being knowledgeable, being good with the button, having a good strategy (pressing the button with his good timing even when he does not yet remember the answer) and substandard opponents when he had bad days. Tony Kornheiser from 'Pardon the Interruption' talks about his attempt to get on Jeopardy-he did fairly well on the tests, but those chose people who did poorly to go on instead of him. I think that Jeopardy didn't cheat or give him any answers--given previous scandals they wouldn't want that. However, I think they gave him the means to continue winning. Now given that, even if they were putting good competitors out there he could still win, however the competitions would be closer and in doubt during Final Jeopardy...IMHO.

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    20. Re:He's fast on the button by rizzo420 · · Score: 1

      i wonder if they are putting on sub-standard contestants so they can boost ratings with this guy. it's very possible. eventually the guy will meet his match, he can't be knowledgeable in everything (i think they should purposely put up more questions in those subjects he's admitted to not being that intelligent in and see what happens).

      it's not like it's some great quiz show, even though it is the most popular. they still worry about ratings and stuff (not that merv griffin is running out of money or anything though). i think they should be working on getting the guy to lose... that's what i'd do.

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    21. Re:He's fast on the button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      No, the guy he should face off against...

      Cliff Clavin Jr. -- former Jeopardy! contestant

  8. Jeopardy hub-bub by Guitar+Wizard · · Score: 1, Funny

    Alex secretly envies Ken Jennings, I swear.

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    1. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by sglane81 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Suck it, Trebek! - as Sean Connery on SNL Celebrity Jeopardy

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    2. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      I'll take the "Penis mightier than the sword for $400 Alex"

    3. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by Guitar+Wizard · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I'll take 'the rapist' for $500..."

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    4. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by sglane81 · · Score: 1, Funny

      "Anal Bum Covers for $600, Alex"

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    5. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by j0217995 · · Score: 1

      Who would win, Alex or Ken in a head to head contest? I bet they could even do a prime time show on that

    6. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by Misch · · Score: 1

      On one show, Alex joked about a movie being amde about the whole thing. He said he would have Charlize Theron play the role of Ken Jennings. "Wrong gender, I know, but I wouldn't mind being on the same set as Charlize."

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    7. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by sindarin2001 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'll take "Anal bum covers" Alex.

    8. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by LookSharp · · Score: 1

      "I wasted five years of my life trying to develop an Anal Bum Cover, Trebek... do not tifle with me!"

      (My personal fave line in SNL Celebrity Jeopardy: "Trebek, what's teh difference between a mallard with a cold and your mom? One's a sick duck... and I don't remember the rest, but your mother's a whore!")

    9. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by vgaphil · · Score: 2, Funny

      "The day is mine Trebek!"

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    10. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by imranius · · Score: 2, Funny

      Trebek: Your answer...[screen reads "Buck"]
      Oh, I'm sorry...that must be your wager.
      A Buck. And you answer is... [ screen reads "Futter" ] Futter.
      Buck Futter, I don't get it.

      Connery: Ohhhh...I think you do, Trebek. I think you do, indeed!

      Trebek: Well, thanks for joining us...

      Sean Connery: [ yelling ] Buck Futter!!

    11. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I don't get it" trebek says.
      "Ohh, but I think you do Alex!" Sean Connery

      THE BEST SNL QUOTE EVER!

    12. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by NuclearDog · · Score: 0

      "I'll take 'hor seman' for $500..."

      (Before you mod me down, it's from SNL, he was pronouncing 'horseman')

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    13. Re:Jeopardy hub-bub by slumpy · · Score: 1

      S Words

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  9. Hmmm.. by jaf · · Score: 1

    Wait, that was "Who wants to be a millionaire"...

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  10. All Hail... by petepac · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and bow before him for he is the Alpha-Nerd!

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    1. Re:All Hail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I for one hail our new Alpha-Nerd master.


      If this gets modded up I'm gonna kick myself.

  11. Incredible by WenisMonger · · Score: 5, Interesting
    It's like he knows one of the guys who makes up the trivia. It's really incredible.

    I had only heard about him until two days ago when he won his 25th in a row, and his winnings for that day were only $14,000, which was his lowest in all 25 games.

    1. Re:Incredible by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      He probably does, since he's involved in the high-school and college academic bowl leagues (or whatever they're called)

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    2. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Actually he is a guy who writes trivia questions, for college
      quizbowl..

    3. Re:Incredible by Alsee · · Score: 4, Funny

      his winnings for that day were only $14,000, which was his lowest in all 25 games.

      Yeah, I really felt bad for the poor guy that day.

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    4. Re:Incredible by gogoguez3000 · · Score: 1

      Ken also writes triva questions for the College Triva bowl (I think that's the name)

  12. Curious about timing by WebGangsta · · Score: 1, Interesting
    (disclaimer: I haven't watched any of these episodes, so I don't know if this has been addressed or been made obvious in any way)

    I know that normally, game shows are filmed weeks/months in advance before they're aired. For exampls, WWTBAM's daytime edition takes something like 2-3 months between taping and airdate.

    What timeframes are we looking at for the current Jeopardy episodes? These certainly aren't being taped for same-day or next-day broadcast, are they? Certainly, if Jeopardy is taped ahead of time, wouldn't it have already been leaked somewhere that there was a guy whose streak went for x episodes?

    1. Re:Curious about timing by Wally+Fenderson · · Score: 1

      All Contestants have to sign an agreement not to reviel their streak, or money won.

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    2. Re:Curious about timing by ljavelin · · Score: 0

      Here's a very cool tip:

      RTFA and find out! It answers your question!

    3. Re:Curious about timing by the+unbeliever · · Score: 1

      Jeopardy has a very low tape-to-air ratio. I believe it's something along the lines of next day.

    4. Re:Curious about timing by I_M_Noman · · Score: 3, Informative
      What timeframes are we looking at for the current Jeopardy episodes? These certainly aren't being taped for same-day or next-day broadcast, are they?
      When I passed the test and was placed in the contestant pool for last season, they told me that they film from August through March, 5 episodes a day each on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Since we're almost up to the new filming season, I'd guess that these episodes were filmed last March.

      (BTW, the bastards never called me so I wasn't ever actually on the show. But I was ready, dammit!)
    5. Re:Curious about timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I was on the show, it was taped in January and shown in March. YMMV.

    6. Re:Curious about timing by sglane81 · · Score: 1

      The current episodes were taped in March and April. They tape 5 shows in one day.

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    7. Re:Curious about timing by LordKronos · · Score: 1

      But what about the audience? How do you keep them quiet?

    8. Re:Curious about timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When watching Jeopardy, I sometimes notice a contestant making a pronunciation or reading error that suggests the contestant has previously seen the question-answer in written form. During the game, are the contestants shown hints that no-one else sees? Is there some kind of sanctioned practice system, or extensive testing that could (perhaps deliberately) expose future contestants to actual game answers?

    9. Re:Curious about timing by cp4 · · Score: 1

      Following your astute advice, I read the articles. The man's question is not answered anywhere.

    10. Re:Curious about timing by Chyeld · · Score: 1

      Actually it states at the very bottom that the shows are taped months in advance.

    11. Re:Curious about timing by arcdx · · Score: 5, Informative

      According to this story and countless others, the tapings occurred in February. The next tapings are scheduled for August.

      If Ken didn't lose by the end of his season, then he could be back for those tapings. I assume the current season will continue airing even during these tapings, and while Jeopardy has been extremely good at keeping the length of the streak under wraps, I imagine if KJ shows up in August, we're going to hear about it from somebody.

    12. Re:Curious about timing by daveloose · · Score: 1

      Yesterday he mentioned that the guard at the gate to the studio lot keeps (kept) congratulating him on how well he did on American Idol the night before so I'm going to say it's at least a month in advance.

    13. Re:Curious about timing by arcdx · · Score: 1

      It's not uncommon for people with a lot of book-smarts not to know how to pronounce words they've only ever seen written down. This doesn't necessarily mean that they were exposed to the terms anywhere near the time that they were on TV. They could have read a whole book about Buddy Featherstonehaugh but not known how to pronounce his last name.

    14. Re:Curious about timing by Misch · · Score: 1

      NDA. Or you break their hands.

      For example, Wil Wheaton's appearance on the World Poker Tour celebrity game. He's signed an NDA, and he's not talking about it. Well, other than the fact that it happened.

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    15. Re:Curious about timing by I_M_Noman · · Score: 1
      Buddy Featherstonehaugh
      Fanshaw, yes? (Or was that Freestonhew?)

      Is there some kind of sanctioned practice system
      Sitting in front of the tube with a clicky pen, basically. (That's what they told us at the practice session after the test.)
    16. Re:Curious about timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's a very wise observation:
      You must be new here!

    17. Re:Curious about timing by cp4 · · Score: 1

      I assumed he meant this question:

      "wouldn't it have already been leaked somewhere that there was a guy whose streak went for x episodes?".

    18. Re:Curious about timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But who reads to the bottom of an article?

    19. Re:Curious about timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except for the 5th paragraph of the Slate article, of course.

      It's OK - not everyone can read AND comprehend at the same time.

      Happily, the "no child left behind" act will help improve the lives of slow children like you.

    20. Re:Curious about timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's just because he hasn't improved since Star Trek.

    21. Re:Curious about timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ken has lost already. He is active on the jepoardy website forum and drops some hints as to what happened.

      Go there for more info.

    22. Re:Curious about timing by Bela_Phi · · Score: 1
      According to a June interview with Jennings (sorry, paid subscription required) in the LDS Church News, the episodes he appeared in were taped in February.

      Here's an excerpt from the article:

      "The Jeopardy! contests featuring Jennings were taped (five episodes a day) at [Sony Pictures'] California studio in February, but were not broadcast until June. Jennings [and his wife] were contractually obligated to stay quiet about his Jeopardy! success."
  13. Comparison by scaltagi_the_pirate · · Score: 2, Funny

    Its like watching the lakers/bulls win over and over, now I just tune in to watch him lose

    1. Re:Comparison by Rethcir · · Score: 1

      Sounds like me and the evil, awful Yankees, who suck by the way.

    2. Re:Comparison by bergerjs · · Score: 1

      As a Boston sports fan, I can understand the two above. However, it is nice to get in on the ground floor of a winner.
      If the producers had given Ken a $10,000 lead over the other two contestants before it even started, then I'd certainly be cheering against him too. But you can't deny: he's good, and the other two aren't handicapped by anything else.

  14. Culture by feilkin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If our culture is headed down the path of having high esteem for people who appear and do successfully on game shows--boy are we screwed.

    Oh, wait. We already do that with reality tv people. Whoops, my bad.

    1. Re:Culture by Apocalypse111 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is not high esteem for a man who does well on a game show.

      This is high esteem for a man who does well on a game show by showing of his gargantuan brain. This is high esteem for a man who has probably forgotten more trivia than most of us currently know. This is high esteem for a geek pressing his advantage in an arena suited to his forte.

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    2. Re:Culture by EriDay · · Score: 5, Funny

      If our culture is headed down the path of having high esteem for people who appear and do successfully on game shows--boy are we screwed.

      Yeah, we need to get back to the traditional values of throwing a ball and running fast.

    3. Re:Culture by shadowcabbit · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If our culture is headed down the path of having high esteem for people who appear and do successfully on game shows--boy are we screwed.

      Oh, wait. We already do that with reality tv people. Whoops, my bad.


      There is a significant amount of difference between being a font of general (if often/somewhat useless) knowledge, and being willing to eat bugs on camera.

      In the one case you have demonstrated a voracious appetite for learning and retention of this learning, and made a few bucks along the way.

      In the other case, you've eaten bugs, which demonstrates the fact that, with the application of enough money, you'll probably do anything.

      I don't know about you but I have plenty of high esteem for people who win on quiz shows because they are more than likely smarter than me. (And this coming from a kid who could answer most of the questions on Jeopardy when he was seven... I haven't watched Jeopardy in such a long time, it's just too easy. I miss that one game show that was on GSN a few years back, with the hidden-host gimmick-- I think it was called Inquisition or something. That had some tough questions.)

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    4. Re:Culture by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If our culture is headed down the path of having high esteem for people who appear and do successfully on game shows--boy are we screwed.

      This isn't an outback-jack-who-wants-to-marry-a-midget-bachelor type of televised retardation that the reality shows are. You can't fake Jeopardy; either you know it and you're fast enough on the buzzer or you're dead in the water.

      Finally someone revered on a gameshow for their mind, not their boobs or conniving.

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    5. Re:Culture by kfg · · Score: 1

      This is high esteem for a man who does well on a game show by showing of his gargantuan brain.

      People don't like to play Trivial Pursuit with me. I tend to win in a few turns.

      I don't consider this in any way evidence of my having a gargantuan brain. I just know a lot about a lot of things because a lot of things interest me.

      I consider my skill at deductive reasoning as a sign of my having a gargantuan brain, and the only trivia answers I've given that I might be somewhat proud of are the ones that I didn't know the answer to but was able to correctly deduce.

      Jeopardy is not a good way to measure this sort of reasoning, the same sort of brain function that has given people like Newton, Einstein, Turing and Tesla their reputations for gargantuan brains. It's likely that all of these would have faired fairly poorly on Jeopardy. They liked to think, not fire off "answers" in machine gun fashion.

      KFG

    6. Re:Culture by btsdev · · Score: 1

      You're making it sound like society is proclaiming this man savior -- how are we screwed because we're talking about a guy who's doing something pretty unordinary? It's people like you, predicting that the world's going to end with every small mishap or slump, that are actually going to make us "screwed." Lighten up. I realize there's lots of messed up stuff going on in the world but your claim here is just preposterous.
      P.S. By no means do I not hate reality TV.

    7. Re:Culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, we need to get back to the traditional values of throwing a ball and running fast.

      Actually, how about idolizing people who develop vaccines, design mars rovers, invent new methods of fabricating integrated circuits, and maybe even the people who MIGHT build a space elevator.

      Memorization does not impress me. Problem solving skills, brutal determination and perseverance are much more impressive. And before anybody starts with "but he's a software engineer," I know software engineers who not only cannot code their way out of a paper bag with a flamethrower due to lack of the aforementioned skills, they too are trivia repositories. If they had said "electrical engineer" or "actuary" it *might* be impressive.

    8. Re:Culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      get over yourself already.

    9. Re:Culture by kfg · · Score: 1

      get over yourself already.

      Thank you for that counterpoint example to gargantuan brain function.

      KFG

    10. Re:Culture by Deflagro · · Score: 0

      I hope FOX execs don't read this post... That's the last thing we need.

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    11. Re:Culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So since he's an SE his accomplishment is not as impressive as if he were an EE or an actuary?

      By what reasoning?

    12. Re:Culture by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 1

      . . . and looking good. All the time. On a movie or TV screen.

      Or we could all just go back to worshipping those who inherited daddy's money. They're the best.

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    13. Re:Culture by onkelonkel · · Score: 1

      An Actuary: Someone who wanted to be an accountant but didn't have the people skills.

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    14. Re:Culture by Alsee · · Score: 2, Funny

      Finally someone revered on a gameshow for their mind, not their boobs or conniving

      Too bad Ken Jennings doesn't have boobs. Just imagine the ratings.

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    15. Re:Culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, we need to get back to the traditional values of throwing a ball and running fast.

      Dodgeball?

    16. Re:Culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you misunderstand. If the best intelligence and smartness our society can show in the limelight is some individual on a game show, that's pathetic.

      He's not saying physical prowess is not the norm but that there is not a like avenue for those with brains.

      (I would also argue that those "traditional values" in atheletics and focusing on physical prowess has shifted mainly due to money in athletics; while it was not absolute, in th past, athletes weren't just athletes, they cared about the game, it's history, the fans, and their character. I realize that may seem some romanticized version of sports 50 years ago, but if you do a comparison of the top athletes then versus now, there's a huge intellectual as well as societal perception gap that shows a massive change.

      Simply, the traditional value of physical prowess remains today; you are correct. But "back then", it wasn't the sole value people cared about. Today, it nearly is the only value cared about. Not that back then, athletes didn't have their problems and lack of character, but compared to today's professional athlete, those guys seem brilliant.

      Even sports analysts today lament stupid athletes, athletes going into sports without raising the educational bar. Not that athletes back then went to college but that given that they have the opportunity, say, in the offseason, no one pretends to improve themselves. They try to improve their game soley, not themselve as people. While not perfect, this is why people like Lance Armstrong and Okafur are considered these amazing, interesting athletes, merely because they seem to have done something outside of the world of athletes.)

  15. Maybe he's a robot by grunt107 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is very impressive. Maybe he has someone feeding him answers (conspiracy theory!).

    Brings to mind the recent GSN (Game Show Network) airing on the Michael Larson "Press Your Luck" scandal. This guy learned their random board sequence was actually sets of predictable moves and won what was then large $. Then the network would not pay him, although IMO he did nothing wrong.

    1. Re:Maybe he's a robot by rpbailey1642 · · Score: 1

      Speaking of robots, wouldn't it be amazing to see this guy go against Ben Stein?

    2. Re:Maybe he's a robot by bujoojoo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Brings to mind the recent GSN (Game Show Network) airing on the Michael Larson "Press Your Luck" scandal. This guy learned their random board sequence was actually sets of predictable moves and won what was then large $. Then the network would not pay him, although IMO he did nothing wrong.

      Not true. The producers tried to weasel out of paying him but could not prove he was cheating, only paying close attention. There is an interesting site here

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    3. Re:Maybe he's a robot by Wally+Fenderson · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, the network (CBS), was _trying_ to find a way not to pay him. The lawyers basically told them, nope, he didn't cheat, it's your fault, ya gotta pay him. The next season, CBS did double the number of patterns on the board, from 6 to 12, to try to prevent that from happening again. Sadly, Larson lost all of the money in a bad real estate investment deal (I guess he finally did hit that whammy), and died of cancer nearly broke. I did see rumors of a film based on the story, with Bill Murray as Michael Larson.

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    4. Re:Maybe he's a robot by afidel · · Score: 1

      Dude Ben is smart but he used to get beat on a semi-regular basis on Win Ben Steins Money. This guy is the Alpha Geek, he would crush Ben without breaking a sweat.

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    5. Re:Maybe he's a robot by The_REAL_DZA · · Score: 1

      *sigh* this is why I just gotta get a dish (no cable out in the boonies where I live...): I had no idea about the GSN report. I always thought there was a pattern to the way the numbers and the Whammies flashed on the screen (every once in a while someone would just freeze up and let the thing run through two or three cycles, then it seemed pretty apparent...) Oh, well.

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    6. Re:Maybe he's a robot by Deathlizard · · Score: 5, Informative

      Basicially this is it in a nutshell.

      -Michael Larson at the time was unemployed. He became obsessed with game shows thinking that he could get on one and outsmart the system to win on it.
      -He starting watching Press your luck and realized that the pattern was psudorandom and completely reversed engenerred the Random pattern, and even perfected a button pressing method to be as precise as possible
      -Mike applied to be a contestant on Press your luck, and eventually got the green light to get on. CBS Producers commented that his demeanor was different from other contestants and they were suspicious of him, but couldn't find anything wrong so he got the go ahead.
      -Once on the show, In the beginning, he acted just like any other contestant, and went through the question and answer session pretty unenentfully.
      -the spin round, was where it got interesting. The First thing Mike did was get a whammy. It's believed that he did it on purpose to get a feel of the button to the board interaction and also not to look like he was blantently hacking the board.
      -after the first whammy, it was all big bucks from there. he would almost always either hit big bucks or another space on the "wheel" that he knew would never popup a whammy. The whole time doing it he was in some sort of trancelike state.
      -The second Q&A Session goes underway, already he's won a good amount of money but CBS hasn't seen anything yet. CBS Producers are going nuts in the back, more than aware that he's got the system beat from his first round performance. Peter Tomarken is basicially shocked at this point.
      -Second round comes around. Mike basicially spins and never stops, collecting even more spins and more money. it gets to the point that Peter is beyond stunned now and doesn't know how to react to this, CBS is going insane in the back, and the episode is running way out of bounds for it's time.
      -Mike breaks the $100,000 barrier. at this point he's won more money than was not only thought possible, but has broke the daytime money winnings record.
      -finally, he gets frightened that he's going to screw up and get a whammy, so he passes the spins.
      -eventually, some spins he has to take get passed to him. Wins Even more money. until basicially all the spins are gone.
      -in the end, CBS "retired" him as champion, and originally would not pay him for cheating. eventually they paid him when their lawyers advised thm that they would lose because their wheel was too predictive. They aired te show as a two day show, because it was so long, they increased the patterns, and added more whammy slots where there originally were none.

    7. Re:Maybe he's a robot by The_REAL_DZA · · Score: 1

      Thanks! What strikes me as odd, though, is that it seems like some mechanically-inclined tradesman on staff for CBS would have been able to make the board more random... Oh, great; now I've splintered this into a thread on randomness !

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    8. Re:Maybe he's a robot by po8 · · Score: 1

      [Michael Larson story ...]

      You left out the punch line. Larson walks away with the most money ever won in a game show, and promptly loses it all (and then some) in a bad real estate investment scheme. A year later, he's begging the producers to let him back on the show, believing that he can beat their new super-tough wheel. Producers: "Uh, no."

      Hope KenJen does better with his winnings.

    9. Re:Maybe he's a robot by telstar · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Larson ended up getting much of his money stolen (he kept piles of it around the house to participate in a contest where matching the serial number on a dollar bill would net him a prize) and wasted the rest on a bad real estate investment. He died alone ... a sad, broken, poor man.

    10. Re:Maybe he's a robot by Deathlizard · · Score: 2, Interesting

      according to the GSN show, they did know it was not a good random pattern way before Mike Larson. In fact, CBS producers were genuinely concerned that the pattern wasn't random enough. They just never figured that anyone would figure it out before they updated the system.

      The board had two major problems.
      1) The technology available to them was very limited in scope. It had limits on how many and how big the random patterns could be. Although I dont see why they couldn't design a system to be completely random, for some reason that I can't remember it had to be psudorandom.
      2) The screen values were not random enough. Idelally, it would have been perfect to have a whammy on every possible value and have that run a totally random pattern. at that time however, they didn't cover the entire board. There were many that didn't ever show a whammy and Mike picked two of them that were easy to track the pattern to. And one of them happened to be big bucks.

      Once Mike walked all over the board, both of these things were changed. there were more whammys and much more random patterns.

    11. Re:Maybe he's a robot by nelsonal · · Score: 1

      That show was made by the quirky side kicks he had. Oddly, the gal who hosted the later episodes had a Chemical Engineering degree from a pretty good school.

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    12. Re:Maybe he's a robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      C'mon he's hacked the system.
      Next you'll see a category "Stuff only Ken knows"

      (shamelessly stolen from userfriendly)

    13. Re:Maybe he's a robot by rsmith-mac · · Score: 1

      I have a good quality Quicktime rip of that special. If anyone wants it, I'd be glad to upload it to an FTP, on the requirement that you BitTorrent seed it(I'd prefer to BitTorrent it myself, but the Uni has that blocked). Just drop a comment in my journal if you want it.

  16. Job Interview? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I seem to recall him saying how he wanted to write questions for the show. I can't think of a better way to show your qualifications for the job.

    1. Re:Job Interview? by hey! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not necessarily.

      The median difficulty question can't be too hard. Part of the fun of a game show is sitting at home knowing the answer and watching the contestant choke.

      It wouldn't be any fun if the contenstants were asked to know things that only a tiny minority of people are likely to know, like the name of the actor who played "Bobba Fett" in the Star Wars movies.

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    2. Re:Job Interview? by BenBenBen · · Score: 1
      It wouldn't be any fun if the contenstants were asked to know things that only a tiny minority of people are likely to know, like the name of the actor who played "Bobba Fett" in the Star Wars movies.
      Temuera Morrison.
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    3. Re:Job Interview? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      the name of the actor who played "Bobba Fett" in the Star Wars movies.
      Body or voice? Which film? The original or special edition version? There are five people who have worn the costume in the movies plus special editions, plus the kid in II.
    4. Re:Job Interview? by Gio+Angles · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The thing is, the Jeopardy writers toss plenty of clues into their "answers", and generally reward players that have Intro level knowledge of a wide variety of subjects.

      Impossibly hard trivia -

      STAR WARS

      "This person played Boba Fett in the original SW films."

      "Who is Jeremy Bulloch?"

      Typical Jeopardy question -

      STAR WARS

      "Jeremy Bulloch played the role of this deadly intergalactic bounty hunter."

      "Who is Boba Fett?"

    5. Re:Job Interview? by technix4beos · · Score: 1
      The actor is Mark Austin, not Temuera Morrison, who played Jango Fett in the prequels.

      The correct spelling is 'Boba Fett', not 'Bobba Fett'.

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    6. Re:Job Interview? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other answers I would have accepted are:

      Jason Wingreen, Jeremy Bulloch and Daniel Logan

    7. Re:Job Interview? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Down South he's Bubba Fett.

    8. Re:Job Interview? by erink42 · · Score: 1

      You're absolutely right. Ken Jennings has been active on the quiz bowl circuit for quite some time, where questions as easy as those on Jeopardy! would be laughed out of the room in certain tournaments. He is a member of National Academic Quiz Tournaments, LLC where they have an announcement about him on their front page.

    9. Re:Job Interview? by compgenius3 · · Score: 1

      Excellent point because I'm only 16 and I am able to answer a good majority of the questions without any sort of trouble. I've been watching Ken since he first appeared on the show and I have to say that his knowledge base is immense. Most contestants know maybe one or two categories really well, but Ken knows almost every category and can usually get at least one in every category. That being said, I think a lot of his knowledge comes from watching previous Jeopardy! shows. He himself has said that he watched as many as three shows a day to prepare. This is an excellent strategy because it is really easy to remember things you see on TV. Commercials anyone?

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  17. Coaching? by Lord+Grey · · Score: 1

    I've always wondered whether Jeopardy contestants are coached in any way. Do they receive a list of the topics before the show begins, for example? Does anyone knows exactly what goes on behind the scenes?

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    1. Re:Coaching? by Slartibartfast · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, there's no coaching whatsoever. After the great gameshow debacle in the 50's (there's a movie by -- not starring -- Robert Redford about this, which I can't remember the name of), this stuff was clamped down on BIG time. A friend of mine -- super-duper smart -- was on Jeopardy!, and wrote up an article about it at the time. For one, they do it in batches; IIRC, they knock off three shows in one day, and show them MUCH later. (Lots of NDA signage re: the results occurs when you get selected.) While they foster the illusion that it's live, it's not. In addition, while they're friendly with Alex during the game, there's essentially NO mingling at any other time -- no sense of impropriety is wanted or allowed. Etc. Honestly, from his article, it sounded a lot less chummy to be a Jeopardy! participant than it looks like from watching the show.

    2. Re:Coaching? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was on the show in 1999. There is NO coaching. You get behind the podium and play the game, period. They do not tell you topics, they do not even pay for your flight or hotel.

      Oh, and Alex is a jerk. He said something so offensive to me that it, and my reply, were edited out.

    3. Re:Coaching? by BenBenBen · · Score: 0
      there's a movie by -- not starring -- Robert Redford about this, which I can't remember the name of
      It's very originally called "Game Show".
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    4. Re:Coaching? by dr_dank · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're thinking of Quiz Show.

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    5. Re:Coaching? by tmasssey · · Score: 1
      The movie is Quiz Show. Good movie. That scandal basically killed large-money game shows until Millionaire.

      Of course, Millionaire faced some of the same criticizm that 21 did. And now that Jeopardy has lifed the 5-game limit, I have a feeling that the same will happen here.

      In the end, you have to remember: it's television, not reality. I assume *everything* on TV has been manipulated for my "benefit"...

    6. Re:Coaching? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Oh, and Alex is a jerk. He said something so offensive to me that it, and my reply, were edited out.

      And you stay silent? Come on, give with the dirt.

    7. Re:Coaching? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the answer was wrong. Maybe a more accurate mod would be "Troll".

  18. Constantly Recording by thpdg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've watched a few of his shows, and I have to say, he is definitely a learner. On the rare occasions that he misses a response, I've never seen him say "Oh, I knew that". Instead, he has this intense look, as if he's going to remember it for next time. If he's been doing that his whole life, then it's no wonder he has such a knowledge base.
    Based on myself, and some others that read here, I suspect a lot of the Slashdot community is the same way. How else could we recall so much about Linux, servers, PC upkeep, and any number of topics that appear here on a regular basis?
    I wish Ken the best of luck, and maybe we'll be able to talk to him here, at some point.

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    1. Re:Constantly Recording by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      ,i>How else could we recall so much about Linux, servers, PC upkeep, and any number of topics that appear here on a regular basis?
      from doing it all the time.

      I was a chemist for 7 years, I cant instantly recall anything technical from that until I really think about it and start the recall process in my brain.

      I also haven't written anything in perl for 2 years cince I had to switch to php.. and it takes me a good day to get back up to speed.

      if you use it, it's there for instant and easy recall that is how a linux admin is good at what he does, he does it every day.

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    2. Re:Constantly Recording by rpbailey1642 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We used tabbed browsing, with slashdot, wikipedia, google, and everything2 opened. So, we're not smart, we're just good researchers. (humor, humor, humor)

    3. Re:Constantly Recording by straybullets · · Score: 1

      How else could we recall so much about Linux, servers, PC upkeep ...

      i do not really agree : i remember the minimum necessary to hack my way to the solution . With time i sometime recall not fundamental stuff but i don't really do it on purpose. Most of the time i have to go thru a conf file to find what i need to change or even thru a few fs to find the conf file !!

      Recalling massive amount of information seems useless when i can just find it or check it somewhere .. either that or i'm just lazy :)-

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    4. Re:Constantly Recording by XO · · Score: 1

      So, do you have an answer to why, sometimes, we'll see dupes on the front page? ie, two virtually identical articles posted in the same 24 hour period?

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    5. Re:Constantly Recording by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Based on myself, and some others that read here, I suspect a lot of the Slashdot community is the same way.

      If that's what you need to tell yourself to sleep at night, go right ahead. I find that people who claim to be smarter, or different than others in all actuality aren't.

    6. Re:Constantly Recording by brarrr · · Score: 1

      don't fool yourself. slashdot is not a mensa gathering.

      recalling that which you work with/is necessary for your work does not make you ubersmart, just adequate.

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    7. Re:Constantly Recording by iantri · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I wish Ken the best of luck, and maybe we?ll be able to talk to him here, at some point.
      To expand on that idea, I think a /. interview with this guy would be great..
    8. Re:Constantly Recording by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people have what is usually (and erroneously) called a "photographic memory". I suspect this guy is one of them.

    9. Re:Constantly Recording by ThePDW · · Score: 1

      Based on myself, and some others that read here, I suspect a lot of the Slashdot community is the same way. How else could we recall so much about Linux, servers, PC upkeep, and any number of topics that appear here on a regular basis? You must be new here...

    10. Re:Constantly Recording by WNight · · Score: 1

      So, do you have an answer to why, sometimes, we'll see dupes on the front page? ie, two virtually identical articles posted in the same 24 hour period?

      Interesting theory here about dupes (and yes, this is flagrantly off-topic and responding to a troll, I should sacrifice karma, blah blah): People don't report dupes because they don't realize they read it on /. originally. Honestly, Slashdot doesn't have a whole lot in the way of original content-- it's mostly links to other stuff-- so if I see an article that looks familiar, my first instinct is that I saw it somewhere else, unless I know for certain that I saw it on Slashdot first.

      that could be the mechanism for geek learning - if you see it repeated on Slashdot then it eventually sticks...

      That's the mechanism for all learning. Sadly, the number of repetitions required for non-geeks tends to be exponentially higher than for geeks... Heh, retronym time:

      NERD: No Excessive Repetition Desired
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  19. Can you imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can you imagine what a Beowolf cluster of KenJens would be like?

    1. Re:Can you imagine... by Kingpin · · Score: 5, Funny


      Uh.. What is google?

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    2. Re:Can you imagine... by Bigby · · Score: 1

      Congratulations! That's the first 'Beowolf' comment (of the millions I read) that I actually laughed at.

    3. Re:Can you imagine... by sould · · Score: 1

      Yeah...but does he run linux?

    4. Re:Can you imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      big collection of nerds? wouldn't that be slashdot?

    5. Re:Can you imagine... by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 1

      "Can you imagine what a Beowolf cluster of KenJens would be like?"

      Google?

    6. Re:Can you imagine... by narcc · · Score: 1

      I have absolutly NO INTENTION of imagining a Beowolf cluster of KenJens.

    7. Re:Can you imagine... by marol · · Score: 0

      Try Wikipedia.

    8. Re:Can you imagine... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Simple answer: here.

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  20. What a change by Rurik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People being celebrated for their intelligence and wit, and not their looks or physical attributes. Are we still in America? What happened here?

    Anyone remember the episode of Sliders where Quinn (sp) was on the game show of extremely high level math and science questions (while throwing a ball). The perfect world for geeks :D

    1. Re:What a change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone remember the episode of Sliders?

      Nope. ;-)

    2. Re:What a change by HungWeiLo · · Score: 1

      Are we still in America? What happened here?

      Nothing happened. Nothing changed. Take away the massive winnings and everyone will suddenly stop watching him.

      He IS awesome, though. I did my nerd bow when he pulled out his stuffed Totoro "good-luck charm."

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    3. Re:What a change by smashr · · Score: 1

      Anyone remember the episode of Sliders where Quinn (sp) was on the game show of extremely high level math and science questions (while throwing a ball). The perfect world for geeks :D

      Ahh yes that was a great episode. I wasnt sure which was worse, that I enjoyed the episode or that I knew more digits of Pi than they asked of him.

    4. Re:What a change by carlmenezes · · Score: 1

      Are we still in America?

      Nope. We're on Slashdot ;)

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    5. Re:What a change by forgetful_ca · · Score: 1

      I am forced to compare this to 'newlyweds', which I was subjected to by my wife, where Jessica had severe difficulty learning lines that involved such difficult words as 'lair', 'chartreuse', and proceeded to ask for help spelling the word 'marines'

    6. Re:What a change by dasmegabyte · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh come on, it's just one guy. Hardly a revolution. Hardly anything new. America's always got their token smart guys. The average man knows Einstein, Sagan and Hawking. The average man knows Bill Gates. The average man know Asimov and Bradbury. The average man knows Alan Greenspan.

      The problem is, smart people don't really have time to spend in the spotlight. They're busy learning and doing stuff that matters. Beautiful people have little to do all day after that four hour session at the gym. So they go on E! So they show up on chat shows. So they go to gala premieres with vapid actresses.

      Fame is very high maintenance, and for most smart people, it's not worth it.

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    7. Re:What a change by Corf · · Score: 1

      3.14159265358979323 - gah, that's all I got. Hmm, checking online... score! good enough for this music geek.

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  21. Heh by sglane81 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wow, this article is lacking something... content maybe? Someone who has seen the show maybe?

    Note his systematic habit of moving down the categories vertically, one by one, rather than skipping around the board.

    Everyone does this.

    His nearly preternatural ability to land on the hidden Daily Doubles.

    The odds are much more in your favor for hitting the DD if you answer the most questions.

    Sounds like Dana Stevens watched one episode and thought she understood. 2/3rds of the article isn't even about Jeopardy! or Ken. It's really amazing these kinds of journalists can get a job.

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    1. Re:Heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Everyone does this.

      Not the celebrity contestants, most of those people are borderline retarded. Norman Schwarzkopf was the only celebrity I ever saw appear who could have done well in the normal game.

    2. Re:Heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      You must have seen the wrong celebrity jeopardy. You need to see the ones that aired on SNL. Those guys are awesome.... expecially Sean Connery

    3. Re:Heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was marginally involved with a Connery production once. I've seen bags of lawn clippings with more intelligence and wit than that man.

    4. Re:Heh by CTachyon · · Score: 1, Informative
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  22. For those who don't know already... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rumor has it that he wins 31 before he loses.

    1. Re:For those who don't know already... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was told to take a dive?

  23. Smells like a ratings lifting scheme by kpogoda · · Score: 1

    I may be being a little too much of a cynic here but this sounds a lot like the movie "Quiz Show" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110932/

    1. Re:Smells like a ratings lifting scheme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a ratings-lifting scheme: they did away with the 5-day rule, in the hopes something like this happens. When someone wins dozens of times in a row, it's a big event for the show. (yeah, this is less shady then the Quiz Show scandal though)

    2. Re:Smells like a ratings lifting scheme by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      I' rather see "Quiz Show" become reality than, say, "Wargames".

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    3. Re:Smells like a ratings lifting scheme by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Umm... if I know what "Quiz Show" is about correctly, then it DID become reality. Actually, Quiz Show was a DOCUMENTARY about a scandal on the show "21".

    4. Re:Smells like a ratings lifting scheme by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      *gasp* And next it's... 23!

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  24. what Daytime TV? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jeopardy runs in in the evening.

    1. Re:what Daytime TV? by trubador · · Score: 2, Informative

      Jeopardy! is syndicated. It airs at different times in different markets. (3 p.m. in Dallas/Fort Worth)

  25. I for one... by digithead · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...welcome our new trivia overlords.

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  26. What is Jeopardy!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For the benefit of a Brit could someone briefly explain the rules of this game show you call Jeopardy!

    1. Re:What is Jeopardy!? by rkhalloran · · Score: 4, Informative
      OK, I'll assume this isn't a troll.

      For the non-US readership: three contestants with a ring-in button. 'Hook' for the show is that you get an 'answer' and have to respond in the form of a question ("The US President who wrote the Declaration of Independence"; "Who is Thomas Jefferson?")

      Three rounds: first two consist of six categories of five questions each (game 'board' is six columns of five monitors each). Cash value of questions in first round runs $200-1000. in $200 increments, second round ('Double Jeopardy') runs $400-2000 in $400 jumps. You lose the value of the question on wrong answers, so you can potentially run negative. There are random 'Daily Double' squares (one in first round, two in second), where you can wager some/all of your winnings on getting that item correct, allowing for big shifts in position during the game. Third round ('Final Jeopardy') the players wager some/all of their winnings on a single question/answer; high total wins for the day.

      Former rule was five days and you're out (but eligible for the year-end 'Tournament of Champions'); this has been dropped this year allowing for the current streak of said Ken J.

    2. Re:What is Jeopardy!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "Former rule was five days and you're out (but eligible for the year-end 'Tournament of Champions'); this has been dropped this year allowing for the current streak of said Ken J."

      That makes his streak less impressive. J has been on for decades, right? So he's only just proving that many people could have done the same thing (as many have gone 5 days before.)

    3. Re:What is Jeopardy!? by rkhalloran · · Score: 1

      I suppose so, but usually somebody shows up who's a greater trivia master; the actual number of five-timers per season was relatively small (such that some four-timers would end up in the tournament to fill out the roster, based on $$ won), so the fact this guy has outgunned so many others is actually fairly impressive.

    4. Re:What is Jeopardy!? by Isaac-Lew · · Score: 1
      "The US President who wrote the Declaration of Independence"; "Who is Thomas Jefferson?"

      Sorry to be pedantic, but Jefferson wasn't a president when he wrote the Declaration of Independence.

      Poorly-worded answer/question pairs like this (as well as the (in)famous DVD answer/question) are why I rarely watch Jeopardy (even though I have glanced at it from time to time to see if Ken Jennings is still on).

    5. Re:What is Jeopardy!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry, you didn't phrase it in the form of a question.

    6. Re:What is Jeopardy!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "wrote" is past tense.

    7. Re:What is Jeopardy!? by Alsee · · Score: 1

      For the non-US readership:
      The US President who wrote the Declaration of Independence;
      Who is Thomas Jefferson?


      For the non-Estonian readership:
      The founding head of the Estonian Ministry of Finance who wrote the declaration of independence "Manifesto to All the Peoples of Estonia";
      Who is Juhan Kukk?

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    8. Re:What is Jeopardy!? by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Also, if you have less than the largest amount on the game board ($1000 in round 1, $2000 in Double), and you hit a Daily Double, you can wager up to that largest amount. Now, I'm not sure on this one myself, but can't you wager $2000 in Final Jeopardy if you have less than that?

      However, you MUST have at least $1 to go into Final Jeopardy (you'd have to wager the right amounts in Daily Doubles to have a number between $0 and $200, though).

      You also didn't mention that the former cash value of questions in round 1 were $100-500 in $100 increments, and Double Jeopardy was $200-1000 in $200 increments. That changed when the 5 day limit was removed, IIRC.

    9. Re:What is Jeopardy!? by rsmith-mac · · Score: 1

      Not to mention it's taken nearly a season to get a guy that can win this much. Out of all the people that came before him this, the closest anyone got was 7 games. He's not just another 5-day winner to say the least.

  27. Pales? by linuxrunner · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Tour de France pales next to the 25-game reign of Jeopardy!"

    I'm sorry, but a 23 day 2235 mile, (3600 KM), race at full speed PALES?

    Yesterday was the time trials, and the US Postal team finished first with an average speed of 33 MPH, 53 KPH.

    That's amazing... and they'll keep doing it. With other racers such as Ullrich, Hamilton, Julich, etc, this is going to be a great year to watch the race.

    Sure this fella on Jepoardy is smart, but we don't know if the show is trumping it up, now do we?

    I mean... we can get one smart guy, and keep getting dumb challengers, and hey... look... wow.. he DEFINATELY looks smart, and won't loose.

    Can anyone say, "ratings"... I mean, on a bad channel, and a bad time... they need something right?

    At least the tour isn't fake, and everyone is at the same level, going for the same goal.

    I'll take the Tour over any WB show anyday.

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    1. Re:Pales? by treuf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Excuse me, but when you say that the tour isn't fake, you should consider doping.
      All those guys (most of them) are cheaters and I don't consider this sport anymore.

      Check those 2 links out :
      http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/hoberman/to ur. htm
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/ cycli ng/3748973.stm

    2. Re:Pales? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      *At least the tour isn't fake, and everyone is at the same level, going for the same goal.*

      tour de france (and other cycle races) have been in troubles because of the cheating scandals(douping)... it's a hard sport, but the stakes were too high to keep it clean.

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    3. Re:Pales? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You're right. It doesn't "pale" in comparison. Rather, they're not comparable.

    4. Re:Pales? by TwistedSquare · · Score: 2, Funny
      All those guys (most of them)

      Ah slashdot, the home of generalisations.

    5. Re:Pales? by witte · · Score: 1

      At least the tour isn't fake, and everyone is at the same level, going for the same goal.

      Well... i certainly agree that it's beyond comparison, but i don't see jeopardy being a playground for pharmaceuticals.
      Because of this, imho, in the Tour (the Giro, ... you name it) not everybody is on the same level.

      Some of these guys have dropped dead in their tracks because of being able to push themselves too far, through pharmaceutical abuse to improve their performance.

      But then again, maybe Jeopardy isn't good for your health either. :-/

    6. Re:Pales? by AndroidCat · · Score: 0
      the US Postal team finished first

      Do they have t-shirts? "Go Postal!" has a certain appeal to it.

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    7. Re:Pales? by -noefordeg- · · Score: 0

      53 KPH
      Kilo Power Horse?

      *runs and hide*

    8. Re:Pales? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. I'm a cyclist and in my mind, nothing, I mean, nothing, comes even close to what those guys can do. I do a number of other sports as well, and nothing seems so far out of reach as what they can do.

      Here's a little bit of trivia. Lance Armstrong can *average* 30 mph on a bike for over an HOUR straight. Few people that read this could even reach 30 mph, and if they could, I doubt they can do it for more than ten seconds.

      Think about it. There are fewer than 200 people on the entire earth that could even *finish* the Tour de France, much less win it.

      Anyway, hopefully people will start to elevate their understanding and appreciation of just how incredible cyclists are as atheletes.

    9. Re:Pales? by xutopia · · Score: 0
      unless the guy is cheating on Jeapordy he's way more respectable than what the Tour de France athletes are doing. If you've done any competitive cycling at a high level like I did you know the sport is laden with steroids and drugs. It's actually the sport where the new "undedectable" drugs first appear until they find a way to measure them.

      Prostate problems have more chances of happening if someone uses steroids. Lance Amrstrong had prostate cancer. Many find it weird how he can actually still compete and be the best cyclist there is. Many believe that he's using drugs to enhance his performance that are still undedected.

    10. Re:Pales? by JDevers · · Score: 1

      Once is a typo but twice is definitely a misspelling.

      Undetected...

    11. Re:Pales? by Bricklets · · Score: 1

      Prostate problems have more chances of happening if someone uses steroids. Lance Amrstrong had prostate cancer.

      Prostate cancer have more chances of happening if someone doesn't masturbate. Lance Armstrong had prostate cancer. That must mean Lance Armstrong doesn't masturbate.

      I love your logic. And to settle the record straight, I don't believe Armstrong ever tested postive for drug use. He's certainly denied ever taking steroids.

      Personally, I believe Armstrong's cancer treatment has a lot to do with how well he's able to compete. The saying goes that whatever doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. Everyone has at least heard of how painful it is to treat cancer. I don't think it's such a stretch to believe Armstrong came out of his treament with that extra edge over his competitors.

      Oh, and that tidbit about masturbation, it's true.

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    12. Re:Pales? by TwistedSquare · · Score: 1

      Maybe I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure it was testicular cancer, certainly at first (it may have spread). He describes in his autobiography how it swelled up so I'm pretty sure it was. Testicular cancer of course is made that bit more likely by cycling a lot (it doesn't help them after all). Lance was junior world champion I believe and has always been good... so I don't see why everyone assumes he is on drugs.

    13. Re:Pales? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, it was testicular cancer, not prostate cancer.

      also there is no link between cycling and increased chance of getting testicular cancer or any other types of cancer by the way.

    14. Re:Pales? by N0decam · · Score: 1

      +1 Ironic...

    15. Re:Pales? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Warning: OT)

      If you're going to smear a man based on nothing but faulty logic and innuendo, at least do so using the proper name of the disease he overcame.

      It was testicular cancer.

      Also, there is no proof that cycling is any worse with respect to doping than other major professional sports. Cycling has one of the most pervasive testing programs of all professional sports, and one can argue that as a result, a higher percentage of the cheaters are caught.

      It would interesting to see what would happen if Football, Basketball, or Soccer players were routinely urine- and (as with TdF riders this year) blood-tested following every game, and at random points during the off-season, as is the case in pro cycling. Ask Jan Ullrich, who was 'caught' taking recreational drugs in the off-season a couple years back.

      I'm a 'high-level' competitive cyclist, too, and have seen my share of cheaters. But I've also been involved in other sports at a similar level, and from what I've seen, cycling is no worse than the rest.

    16. Re:Pales? by haystor · · Score: 1

      Cycling as a sport has a drug problem because they actually try to catch the users. They could do like the American sports and have no real testing at all, then they wouldn't have anyone caught.

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    17. Re:Pales? by ld_hrothgar · · Score: 0

      Lance Armstrong had TESTICULAR cancer, not prostate cancer. He's also the MOST tested athlete on the entire planet and has not ever, not even once, tested postitive for drugs of any sort. You want to know how he does it? Read his book, read interviews... he does it because he's the most stubborn human out there, someone tells him he can't free climb Mt. Rushmore and he'll go do it just to prove them wrong.

    18. Re:Pales? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I watch as you attack fallacious generalization with fallacious logic.

    19. Re:Pales? by Snowspinner · · Score: 1

      Cycling has one of the most aggressive drug testing programs in all of professional sports, with riders being randomlly tested and surprise tested even during the off season. Lance Armstrong has remarked that he's the most tested athlete in professional sports. Yes, there are still people dumb enough to try doping. But, unlike most sports, it doesn't really work here. You get caught.

    20. Re:Pales? by Rob+Parkhill · · Score: 1

      Come on, why has no-one figured this out yet? Cancer? That means radiation-therapy. Super athlentic skills after radiation exposure? The guy is obviously a super-hero mutant after his cancer treatments!

      It's the only plausible explanation.

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    21. Re:Pales? by smithmc · · Score: 1

      Can anyone say, "ratings"... I mean, on a bad channel, and a bad time... they need something right? [snip] I'll take the Tour over any WB show anyday.

      Huh? At least in the New York market anyway, Jeopardy is on WABC (i.e. the New York flagship station of the ABC network), at 7 pm. Not what I'd call a bad channel or a bad time.

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    22. Re:Pales? by edgezone · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Excuse me, but when you say that the tour isn't fake, you should consider doping. All those guys (most of them) are cheaters and I don't consider this sport anymore.

      Check those 2 links out :
      http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/hoberman/tour. htm
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycli ng/3748973.stm

      Let's see...one link is about a doping incident from 6 years ago. The other is about a raid that turned up nothing? Yet your claim is that "All those guys" or "most of them" cheat and dope? You really have to do better then that. Please offer some better proof. They do urine tests, blood tests, raid hotel rooms (as you proved), monitor red blood cell counts, and France itself is very strict on even bringing substances into the country (ask Edith Rumsas about that one!).

      Obviously no sport can be perfect, after all, there will always be companies like BALCO trying to find a way around drug testing, but compared to other sports, professional cycling is one of the most aggressive testing sports around

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    23. Re:Pales? by goinfre · · Score: 1

      at least the jeopardy contestants aren't all on drugs.

    24. Re:Pales? by Our+Man+In+Redmond · · Score: 1

      Where did you get the idea that this was a WB show? It's produced by Sony Pictures Television and is syndicated. In my market (Seattle) it runs on the local ABC channel between the 6:30 news and whatever sitcom starts at 8:00. Not really a bad channel, and in a slot that's considered prime time.

      As with the Tour, everyone on Jeopardy is going for the same goal. (Jennings eventually lost -- after all, he's not still taping the show -- but he is contractually obligated to tell no one, including his own family, how many games or how much money he won.) However, as with the Tour, not everyone is at the same level.

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    25. Re:Pales? by bonius_rex · · Score: 2, Informative
      You, sir, are full of shit.
      Lance had testicular cancer, which later became lung, and brain cancer. He never had prostate cancer.

      "Tests revealed advanced testicular cancer that had spread to his lungs and his brain"
      http://lancearmstrong.com/about.htm

      If you read either of his books, you can read all about the witch-hunt the French cycling authorities put him through, for over a year, without ever finding any evidence of his using illicit substances.

    26. Re:Pales? by aiabx · · Score: 1

      Good try, but it doesn't hold water. If he has radiation-induced superpowers, how come he isn't green or made of bricks?
      -aiabx

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    27. Re:Pales? by LesPaul75 · · Score: 1

      Most of the people I get to reply to are idiots... Are you one of them?

      Yes, I "DEFINATELY" am. And I'm also a "looser."

  28. $828,960 won so far... by Brain+Stew · · Score: 4, Funny

    And he'd give it all up for a kiss from a girl :(...

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    1. Re:$828,960 won so far... by Michael+Dorfman · · Score: 1

      >And he'd give it all up for a kiss from a girl :(...

      That can be arranged.

    2. Re:$828,960 won so far... by WolfJ514 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      He's stated a number of times on the show that he is married.

      Furthermore, he's a BYU grad, and Mormons encourage you to get married and have more adherants, errr, children.

    3. Re:$828,960 won so far... by Brain+Stew · · Score: 1

      I was just making a joke since this guy is supposed to be an uber-nerd. Considering how famous this guy is supposed to become, I'll need more help with women then he will.

      Then again, I suppose that statement is redundant since I post at /.

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    4. Re:$828,960 won so far... by cgibby98 · · Score: 1

      And he'd give it all up for a kiss from a girl :(...

      Actually, this article from a few weeks ago mentions that Jennings is married. His wife actually helped him bone up on his trivia.

    5. Re:$828,960 won so far... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And don't forget that what's good for him is good for the church! Like Scientology, the Mormon cult takes a cut of everything one earns.

    6. Re:$828,960 won so far... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in Butthead voice.....
      uhh..huh huh huhh... he said bone.....uhh huh huhh...

  29. When did Jeopardy get rid of the 5 show max? by sielwolf · · Score: 4, Informative

    Was it recently? For a while that kept the max pretty low (since, well, the best anyone could do was be on less than a fifth the shows Jennings has been on. Also might explain why his winnings are about five times as high).

    On a related note: I liked Tony Kornheiser on ESPN's Pardon the Interruption talking about auditioning for Jeopardy where he got some pretty high marks but chose a less skilled contestant because Mr Tony wasn't "telegenic enough" (ironic since he cohosts PTI, is a guest on another weekly DC sports show and the Sports Reporters). I guess criteron might be out the window too.

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    1. Re:When did Jeopardy get rid of the 5 show max? by word+munger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, according to the article, this is the first season. In that sense, his "record' isn't that impressive. Earlier this year someone got to 7, now he's crushed that.

    2. Re:When did Jeopardy get rid of the 5 show max? by spacefight · · Score: 1
    3. Re:When did Jeopardy get rid of the 5 show max? by leadsling · · Score: 1

      Mr. Tony didn't make it 'cause Jeopardy's cameras couldn't handle the orange glow of that big beautiful bald head. ;-o He would have done well though as long as they didn't ask him any sports questions.

    4. Re:When did Jeopardy get rid of the 5 show max? by Bobman1235 · · Score: 1

      When did Jeopardy get rid of the 5 show max?
      Was it recently?


      According to one of the articles, it was last fall.

    5. Re:When did Jeopardy get rid of the 5 show max? by lu004202 · · Score: 0

      Tony Kornheiser: ONCE AGAIN, I WIN!

      Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!
      Reason: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.

    6. Re:When did Jeopardy get rid of the 5 show max? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually what is really impressive is that he's nearing the alltime record for consecutive episodes as champion of any game show ever (he's like 3rd at the moment, some Password guy is next up to be passed) tvgameshows.net probably has all the stories

    7. Re:When did Jeopardy get rid of the 5 show max? by jackbird · · Score: 1

      Not telegenic enough? On Jeopardy?! Good god, does he crack the lens?

    8. Re:When did Jeopardy get rid of the 5 show max? by sielwolf · · Score: 1

      Here's a picture. Decide for yourself (he's on the right).

      Of course he was on PTI once with no makeup... looked like he escaped Evil Dead ;)

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  30. Still not as thrilling by syntap · · Score: 1

    as Tom McGee on Tic Tac Dough in the 80's. Air Force guy who just destroyed everybody for weeks on end.

    1. Re:Still not as thrilling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as Tom McGee on Tic Tac Dough in the 80's. Air Force guy who just destroyed everybody for weeks on end.

      are you Tom McGee?

  31. Only in america by Underholdning · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "If his winning streak continues, Jennings could become the most celebrated software engineer in America."
    Engineers can put probes on Mars and take pictures of Jupiter, but if you want to be celebrated, you must go on TV :)

    1. Re:Only in america by vr · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of an old saying: You can build a thounsand bridges, but if you suck one cock you're a cocksucker.

    2. Re:Only in america by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Says the guy in the entertainment business..

      More of a Tom Stone fan myself.

    3. Re:Only in america by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Bah! In America you can be celebrated on TV for being probed by Martians. [Or were they from the 7th planet?]

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    4. Re:Only in america by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Capital "A" you inconsiderate british, french, australian (or some other lower cased county) clod! :)

    5. Re:Only in america by aynrandfan · · Score: 1
      Engineers can put probes on Mars and take pictures of Jupiter, but if you want to be celebrated, you must go on TV :)

      If the engineers that put the probes on Mars cannot be celebrated in today's culture without their pictures in the paper and on TV, that's pretty fucking sad. :(

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  32. the end by true_majik · · Score: 0

    is there any possibility that there is a scam /cheating involved?

    1. Re:the end by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      If you take the first letters of the first five categories he picked, you get "IDDQD".

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    2. Re:the end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      invincibility in Doom. How do I still remember that? ;_;.

  33. The Tour by ljavelin · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I dunno, the Tour de France is still freakin' incredible.

    The fact that cyclists can ride a 40+ mile route at an average of 33+ MPH is amazing. Especially if you consider all the rain. And that I have a tough time going 30+ MPH ... downhill.

    Go Lance!

    1. Re:The Tour by Tyler+Durden · · Score: 0
      The fact that cyclists can ride a 40+ mile route at an average of 33+ MPH is amazing. Especially if you consider all the rain. And that I have a tough time going 30+ MPH ... downhill.

      You probably just need higher gears on your bike.

      I often wonder what the ratio between gears on the professionals' bikes are. A lot of times when I'm riding downhill I'm pedaling as fast as I can with no tension left to gain speed. I need a better bike. 'Course no bike in the world is going to make me anything near as fast as those guys.

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    2. Re:The Tour by _pruegel_ · · Score: 1

      Higher gear won't really help. If I bike along an almost flat road I will have an average of about 27 KPH. Today I did a tour of 130 km in a quite hilly area and I had an average of about 25 KPH. I am nowhere near as good as these professional drivers but that is not because of the gears. I have 27 gears on my bike and I almost never have the need for an even higher gear. I can use the highest gear only downhill because I am too weak to use it otherwise. It's daily training (and blood transfusions, growth hormones and EPO ;)) which makes them so much better than me.

    3. Re:The Tour by YetAnotherDave · · Score: 2, Informative

      their bikes are less of a factor than the fact that the riders are:
      a) rediculously fit
      b) _really_ good at getting the most benefit from drafting. It cuts wind resistance by a huge amount for riders to be wheel-to-wheel...

    4. Re:The Tour by swv3752 · · Score: 1

      It is not the downhill speed so much as the uphill speed. There are two ways to bike fast: high RPMs and low torque or slow RPMs and high torque.

      If you can pull off the high torque, you end up muscling your way along, and often can go uphill very fast. Any fool can get decent speed downhill.

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    5. Re:The Tour by scotch · · Score: 1

      This doping is frequently alleged, but I haven't seen any evidence for it. Do you have a link? I've heard that these guys are the most drug-tested athletes in the world.

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    6. Re:The Tour by Tyler+Durden · · Score: 1

      But how fast can you go downhill? Is 30 mph really that unapproachable for the average biker with a long descent and high gears?

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    7. Re:The Tour by _pruegel_ · · Score: 1

      Well I can accellerate pedaling _downhill_ up to about 50 KPH (31 MPH) using the hightest gear of my bike. Todays maximum was 67 KPH (41.6 MPH) but I am not able to pedal that fast (very steep descent). Here I would need a higher gear but then again I would not really want to pedal at that speed. I just latch to the bike and hope nothing breaks ;-)

    8. Re:The Tour by bfields · · Score: 1
      Is 30 mph really that unapproachable for the average biker with a long descent and high gears?

      No, it's not hard. The gearing isn't even important--work on tucking in and improving your aerodynamics. Given a sufficiently good hill, pedalling may not be required at all....

      --Bruce Fields

    9. Re:The Tour by ipfwadm · · Score: 2, Informative

      I often wonder what the ratio between gears on the professionals' bikes are. A lot of times when I'm riding downhill I'm pedaling as fast as I can with no tension left to gain speed. I need a better bike. 'Course no bike in the world is going to make me anything near as fast as those guys.

      The maximum gearing I have on my road bike is 53 teeth in the front and 12 in the back. Note that the average mountain bike or hybrid has nothing near this gear ratio. You need a racing bike to get this. I don't think pro racing bikes are too terribly different from this -- they might have a couple more teeth in the front and maybe an 11 in the back. If you look at pros ride, they usually have an incredibly high cadence (in other words, they pedal really fast). Sprinters will spin their legs at well over 100 or 120 rpms. Even climbers will often sit in the saddle and spin -- it's much easier to maintain high RPMs and low torque than it is the opposite. The average person would be bouncing all over the place at 100 rpms.

    10. Re:The Tour by tap · · Score: 1

      The highest gear they will have on their normal bike is a 53x11. That's 53 in the front and 11 on the back. This is pretty normal for a road bike actually. Everyone wants the same stuff Lance uses, even though an 11 tooth cog is useless to most riders. Search google groups for rec.bicycles.tech and "11 tooth" for a few Holy Wars on the subject.

      Cassettes, the cluster of cogs on the back, are pretty much a single unit and the manufacturers only make a few different sizes. Shimano Dura-Ace 10 speed (10 speeds in the rear, with two or three chainrings in the front for 20 or 30 speeds total) comes in six versions, with small cogs of 11 or 12 teeth and larges from 21 to 27.

      On a good sized hill, you can easily go faster than 30 mph just by coasting. In fact, on a fast hill you can go often go faster by not pedaling and getting more aerodynamic than by trying to pedal faster. Much of the argument of why "nobody need an 11 tooth cog" is based on that.

      If someone wants to go faster, they might also try getting the RPMs they can pedal at higher. Toe clips or fancy clipless pedals make a huge difference. Having the saddle too low is a very common miss-adjustment. You'll see lots of people riding around with the knees sticking out to the side as the pedal because they're too low. 75 to 90 RPM is a good average to ride at, but people who don't know any better will use 50-60 RPM, which is close to walking cadence. According to my bicycle computer, my average for the last few months of commuting is 86 RPM and my max is 197 RPM.

    11. Re:The Tour by arcade · · Score: 1

      Personally I've got no problem pedaling up to 30mph on a flat road, and reaching 40mph is a breeze downhill.

      On the other hand, I've got 53/12 teeth on my bike.

      Also note, I'm just bicycling to/from work every day, but after cycling both summer and winter the last two and a half year, the speed has picked up quite a bit.

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    12. Re:The Tour by scotch · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the informative rebuttal.

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  34. Not even close by arieswind · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These games arent even close... last night he had 40k at the end, the next closest was like 4 or 5k. The night before that he had over 25k, both of the other people were in the red, for nearly the entire show. It's one thing to win 25 closely contested shows, its quite another to win by the impressive margins that he does every night.

    1. Re:Not even close by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The night before that he had over 25k, both of the other people were in the red, for nearly the entire show. It's one thing to win 25 closely contested shows, its quite another to win by the impressive margins that he does every night.

      While you geeks are celebrating this guy, remember, 95% of America doesn't like know-it-alls and thinks this guy is a douchebag.

    2. Re:Not even close by Wireless+Joe · · Score: 1


      I'd rather he had a couple of close games. When he wins with 2 or 3x the amount of the next closest contestant, it's easy to claim that Jeopardy! is just putting him against stupid people to keep him going.

    3. Re:Not even close by Don+Tworry · · Score: 1

      I think their is a reason that these are not very close. The challengers know that Ken is tough to beat so they they figure the only way to beat him is to take chances... and they get burned. Their were a couple of shows where he won by only a slim margin a couple of weeks ago.

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  35. Reminds me of "Quiz Show" by Psychic+Burrito · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anybody seen Quiz Show? To increase viewer numbers, champions regularly stayed on a show for 20+ weeks. How they did it? Participants got the questions in advance and it was all just a big show... And no, this isn't fiction, it really happened - in the 1950...

    Should make everyone wonder whether the network has really found a great candidate or just decided to increase viewer numbers again with a similar plot...

    1. Re:Reminds me of "Quiz Show" by ky11x · · Score: 1

      They would have picked someone more telegenic if that's the case. Put away the tinfoil hat and enjoy the show.

    2. Re:Reminds me of "Quiz Show" by donnyspi · · Score: 1
      Because of the Quiz Show scandal, Jeopardy and other game shows are monitored very closely by the Standards and Practices guys.

      Just to be a troll, I registered as "HerbStempel" on the Jeopardy message board on jeopardy.com

    3. Re:Reminds me of "Quiz Show" by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 1

      One of my first movies i walked out of : Damn, -that- was a boring movie :)

    4. Re:Reminds me of "Quiz Show" by ErisCalmsme · · Score: 1

      Ever since he broke 200K I've been saying, "I saw Quiz Show already, I know what's going on here..." I could see Disney doing something like that, for some reason (ABC is Disney right?). It's also not too hard to imagine any regulating agency to have their hand in it. Either way it will still be watchable until he breaks a million. After that it's gonna get boring, IMHO.

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    5. Re:Reminds me of "Quiz Show" by proj_2501 · · Score: 1

      ABC is Disney, but Jeopardy is not a network show. It's produced by Sony and syndicated by KingWorld. Depending on where you are, it may be on a different network. For example in Rhode Island, Jeopardy is on a CBS station.

    6. Re:Reminds me of "Quiz Show" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hasn't anyone ever wondered why you must answer in the form of a question on Jeopardy? This format was a direct response to the scandals of the '50s. Obviously it did not make the show any less suceptable to cheating but it was intended to be an acknowledgement of the problem. Jeopardy was intended to be the clean game show in response to the rigged shows.

    7. Re:Reminds me of "Quiz Show" by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 2, Funny

      Um, you apparently don't know the origin of Jeopardy. You know how they give you the answers on Jeopardy instead of a question. Think hard....

      It started out as a parody of Quiz Show. But it's on the up and up, Ken's just a smart guy.

  36. The New Jeopardy by gwjc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Firstly, I don't think he's cheating. People we're speculating on it the last time he was /.'d but he's just under too much scrutiny. The elimination of the five win rule set the stage for this new form of Jeopardy and I can't see how it can change from here unless the reinstate the rule. Ken will stay on top until someone like Ken but better comes along, and it stands to reason that whoever can beat him will remain unbeatable for a long run until some equally rare triv-master knocks them out. I noticed that last night when he referred to himself as a 'nerd' Trebek quickly insisted he was anything but; He used to seem more antagonistic to him. It's like Alex has Stockholm syndrome now that his show has been taken hostage by Ken. I wonder if the people who select the questions will deliberately start stacking the questions to exploit his weakspots or maybe they won't given the ratings boost he's bringing them.
    Anyway, here's to Ken!

    1. Re:The New Jeopardy by TXP · · Score: 1

      All it requires is for Ken to have a bad night and someone who is half decent to have a good night. The real problem is that the competition isn't even close to Ken's level. Typically when Ken goes into Final Jeopardy he's double the 2nd place contestants score. (He would double my score easily if I even had a positive score.) I was able to get 4/5 on the comic book trivia that was a pretty easy category. Damn that Invincible Iron Man question for 2000.

    2. Re:The New Jeopardy by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      I heard that in the next show the categories will be "India's Least-Known Actors", "Polish Architecture of the 1400s", "Facts About Vacuum Cleaners", "Speed Limits Around the World", "Cricket Rules" and "Yiddish".

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    3. Re:The New Jeopardy by flamingmoose · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There was a show in the Netherlands about a year ago, where the contestants were given a booklet with 1000 questions nd ansers from which the questions would be asked. I didn't know that the first time I watched. Just when I was in awe of the contestants (obviously, they knew very much) one girl was able to say who came second in last years Tour de France. When the host asked her (not a real question, just making conversation) who won, she didn't have a clue...

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    4. Re:The New Jeopardy by scotch · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The real problem is that for most of the easy questions, almost every contest up there knows the answer. Ken gets those every time because, after 25 times on the show, he has totally mastered the art of the buzz in. I've been watching the show, it's quite frustration to see the easy questions come up and every contestant frantically pushing their button, except Ken, who calmly get it every time.

      Ken is a super smart guy, but the buzzer factor helps ensure he doesn't have a bad night and lose to another smart guy (or girl).

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    5. Re:The New Jeopardy by John+Harrison · · Score: 1
      He could always pull a Cliff Clavin and bet it all on a final Jeopardy dream category and then not know the answer. This seems unlikely though since he tends to have an insurmountable lead.

      What they need is a show loaded against Mormons. Have a "Potent Potables" category in each of the first two rounds, then add a Kama Sutra category, an illicit drug category, and a category about tattoos.

      Perhaps this will lead to a series of super-champions, who only lose to other super-champions. The the tournament of champions would be a duel of clicking in the instant Alex began to speak, hoping that you know the answer.

      There is a guy in Colorado that plays game shows professionally. He has been on Jeopardy more than once and has been on Millionaire before.

    6. Re:The New Jeopardy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting


      Ken will stay on top until someone like Ken but better comes along, and it stands to reason that whoever can beat him will remain unbeatable for a long run until some equally rare triv-master knocks them out.


      Not unless the producers want it that way. Ken is smart and knows more than most, but he has strong and weak categories. He runs his strong categories and plays smart on his weak ones.

      With 25 shows to look back on, the producers could find all the areas where he had the most trouble and pack the board with "Ken killer" categories (Hint: No questions about comics anywhere on the board)

      Then they could put him up against someone who just happens to be good at those categories and a stooge. (The new winner could be killed off the next day with a radically different set of categories)

      This would be the end of Ken, but I suspect that they're going to let him get $1,000,000 before actively trying to get rid of him.

    7. Re:The New Jeopardy by fendel · · Score: 1

      And you just know KenJen would run the categories. :)

      I can see it now --
      What is... (tilts head, shows the "I'm taking a wild stab at it" expression that usually precedes a correct answer) a... mensch??

      I love that guy.

    8. Re:The New Jeopardy by GeoGreg · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can't buzz in as soon as Alex begins to speak. The buzzers are locked out by a producer until Alex finishes the question. That's how it was when I was on in 1991, and other posts here indicate that's still the case. I haven't watched the show myself recently.

    9. Re:The New Jeopardy by John+Harrison · · Score: 1
      I am not sure that is still the case. Also, I distinctly remember when they had the international tournament of champions that players would buzz in almost immediately, after Alex had gotten one or two words out. That might have been a rule change for the tournament though. The better players would probably appreciate being able to buzz in early.

      How did you do on the show?

    10. Re:The New Jeopardy by gwjc · · Score: 1

      I know what Stockholm Syndrome is, my point was that he was at first hostile but slowly seems to be warming up to Ken. I could have been a more clear on that I suppose.

    11. Re:The New Jeopardy by GeoGreg · · Score: 1

      To quote "Weird Al" Yankovic, "I lost on Jeopardy, baby!" I was $100 ahead going into Final Jeopardy, but I blew it. I did get, among other lovely parting gifts, a case of Rice-A-Roni ("The San Francisco Treat") for my troubles.

    12. Re:The New Jeopardy by John+Harrison · · Score: 1

      What was the final jeopardy answer (ie clue)?

    13. Re:The New Jeopardy by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      It was still this way in 2000. Its too bad- it would really be far more interesting if you could buzz in and answer immediately (note- not buzz in and wait for alex to finish before answering, that would give you too much time to think).

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    14. Re:The New Jeopardy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Half the fun of Jeopardy! is playing along at home. If people buzz in because they can read the answer in 2 seconds, many of the people at home would have no idea what it was.

    15. Re:The New Jeopardy by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      They show the text of the question on camera. It'd teach people to read faster, and make it a real competition. In none of my trivia contestsin college and high school was it illegal to ring in early. Just make sure you know what you're doing or your teammates kill you :)

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  37. All your nerds... by darth_silliarse · · Score: 0

    ...are belong to ... I'll get my coat

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  38. AAAAALLLLLEEEEXXXX!!! by bersl2 · · Score: 1

    For the love of everything sacred, bring back the 5-day limit!

  39. Re:WB Show? by mhollis · · Score: 1

    Jeopardy is syndicated by King World. The fact that it is on your WB station is an indication that the other stations in your area did not pay for it (or bid high enough to get it). Look for the King World logo at the end of the show.

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  40. Great timing, it's on sale (slickdeals) today... by Dave21212 · · Score: 1


    Imagine my surprise (and luck) when I saw this same movie on slickdeals this morning.

    My Neighbor Totoro DVD is on sale for $4 !

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  41. Re:Nothing is not worth knowing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Except for the grandparent poster.

    I am truly a worse person for having read his envious posting.

    Thanks a lot, you fucktard, you ruined my Thursday!

  42. memory by linuxislandsucks · · Score: 1

    you guys do realize that Jeopardy gives the answers to all the players to memorize, right?

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    1. Re:memory by twstdr00t · · Score: 1

      Actually the answers are displayed for everyone to read... it's the questions that the players must memorize :-P

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    2. Re:memory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How would giving them the answers help when the whole premise of Jeopardy is to give the [b]questions[/b] to these answers?

    3. Re:memory by proj_2501 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      i think you'd better provide a link to that effect, sonny

    4. Re:memory by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Actually, they give the ANSWERS to the players, studio audience, everyone. However, you're also right - they DON'T give them to the players to study, or the players would have MUCH more time to give a question that the answer fit (the point of Jeopardy).

  43. How long till... by howman · · Score: 2, Funny

    The producers find him to be aliability rather than someone who draws viewers... kinda boring if you know who is going to win... Every month I watch Formula 1 and know Shewie is going to win the race... boring for most...
    I can just see the episode where they decide to get rid of him.
    Tonight on Jepordy, our topics are, Gregorian chants, obscure bible quotes, saints you never heard of, books on the shelf in the Vatican, name that martyr and bubblegum. Challenging our 50th show winner is Cardinal Pompus Knowitall and the Pope... good luck contestants.

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    1. Re:How long till... by Mabonus · · Score: 1

      You do realize that as a Morman from BYU this man knows his bible. Personally, I think ken would win that matchup - don't even try to tell me that Pope JP3 is quick on the buzzer.

    2. Re:How long till... by Sheltim · · Score: 1

      Of course, one of the topics would have to be Potent Potables.

    3. Re:How long till... by tbaggy · · Score: 1

      How to get rid of him:
      Trebek bellows, "And for Final Jeopardy, the category is, Getting a date on Saturday Night," as the camera pans away from Kens scared-like-a-little-girl face to commercial..

    4. Re:How long till... by Politburo · · Score: 1

      If he's been on 25+ shows, he's probably already been through a tough bible category. Though, in the past 5 years or so (since Millionaire), Jeopardy has been a little less difficult. It's always great watching the old ones on GSN, even if I'm rarely there to watch it, since it only comes on when the moons are in alignment.

    5. Re:How long till... by LookSharp · · Score: 1

      You do realize that as a Morman from BYU this man knows his bible. Personally, I think ken would win that matchup - don't even try to tell me that Pope JP3 is quick on the buzzer.

      Despite the fact that it's spelled "Mormon," and John Paul II is Pope (there IS no JP3), I agree with your sentiment. He has shown his biblical knowledge several times, the Pope is slow and old, and I don't think the Cardinal would do well at the "Bubblegum" category.

      Heh. Morman. (Shades of the "GET A BRAIN! MORANS" sign guy from Fark...)

    6. Re:How long till... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And molesting altar boys....

    7. Re:How long till... by scotch · · Score: 1, Funny
      Since he is a mormon, we were joking last night that if they want to get rid of him, they should do these categroies:

      • Drug paraphenalia (sp?)
      • Wicca
      • Theory of Evolution
      • Gagsta Rap
      • Prostitution
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    8. Re:How long till... by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 1
      , even if I'm rarely there to watch it, since it only comes on when the moons are in alignment.

      You need a TiVo

    9. Re:How long till... by TechieSidhe · · Score: 1

      I'll take Demonology for 1000, Alex.

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  44. Mod parent up; it's TRIVIA for crying out loud!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In a discussion of a trivia show, how can a comment SO trivial be modded "off topic"?

  45. He's a mormon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jeezus Chri.. Whoops! I mean.. Joeseph Smith!

    Seriously though.. What's he going to do with all that money if he can't drink or gamble? :-)

    1. Re:He's a mormon? by ivrcti · · Score: 1

      Tithing, baby, tithing!

    2. Re:He's a mormon? by smithmc · · Score: 1

      Seriously though.. What's he going to do with all that money if he can't drink or gamble?

      And so close to Vegas, too...

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  46. Re:Great timing, it's on sale (slickdeals) today.. by Evangelion · · Score: 1


    Don't bother with the Fox DVD. Either wait for the Disney version (which will actually have a japanese language track), or order the region 2 disc from CD Japan and play it on your favourite region-free player.

  47. DON'T BUY IT!! by Inf0phreak · · Score: 3, Informative
    It's the cut dub-only version from Fox! And to make matters even worse, it's fullscreen. *YUCK!*

    Some time next year Disney will release a new and uncut version with subtitles and a new dub.

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    1. Re:DON'T BUY IT!! by shakamojo · · Score: 1

      Get the region 2 from Japan... it's already subtitled, and it's letterbox!

    2. Re:DON'T BUY IT!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell me where it is cut in any way shape or form and you will earn that 3 informative. Until then sir you are completely wrong. Also the fox dub is fantastic as for as dubs go.

  48. Ugh by Durindana · · Score: 2

    Who modded the Insightful? Should have been -1, Mean-Spirited.

    This article isn't a Learning Channel documentary on Jeopardy, sglane. She also didn't explain that Trebek is Canadian or whatever; I know, I know, serious oversight. Come on - she's using a (very small) bit of poetic license to illustrate her point about KenJen's slightly neurotic but lovable habits.

    Also note that this piece isn't 'journalism' properly so-called; if anything newspaperly it's editorialization or light-hearted commentary.

    Apparently the light-hearted part was lost on you.

    1. Re:Ugh by sab39 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What's astonishing to me is that *nobody* mentions that the only reason he's so far ahead of previous records is that in all previous seasons you were booted after 5 wins. Of *course* someone doing very well is going to beat records by a lot - anyone who did this well on any previous season would have left the show three weeks ago with a paltry 150K or so.

      Sure, the guy's good. But there's no way to tell how much better he is than previous 5-day winners, because those previous winners never got the chance to show what they could do.

    2. Re:Ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      What's astonishing to me is that *nobody* mentions that the only reason he's so far ahead of previous records is that in all previous seasons you were booted after 5 wins.

      RTFA

    3. Re:Ugh by Maestro4k · · Score: 3, Informative
      • What's astonishing to me is that *nobody* mentions that the only reason he's so far ahead of previous records is that in all previous seasons you were booted after 5 wins.
      Actually the article mentions this, did you read it? Another person pointed out that the doubled the value of the questions also this season (when they did away with the 5 day limit). That wasn't mentioned in the article.
    4. Re:Ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They doubled the money last season (I believe), which was the last season they had the the old style scoreboard in front of the podiums before they switched to the video screens like they use on Wheel of Fortune now.

    5. Re:Ugh by Wally+Fenderson · · Score: 0

      Actually, Iw was about three years ago that they doubled the values

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  49. Jeopardy Web boards by UDGags · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://boards.sonypictures.com/boards/forumdisplay .php?s=50aa46369dcf5a3280b1ed37548dfe79&forumid=34 These are the actual message boards for Jeopardy and Ken Jennings posts there frequently on such topics. They also have running tallies of his scores and precantages. Kinda cool information if you like that kind of stuff. Also I have watched most of Ken's game and this guy is amazing with the amount of trivia he knows.

    1. Re:Jeopardy Web boards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They also have running tallies of his scores and precantages.

      I wonder if next year (when Ken has retired of his own choice), there will be a "Ken Jennings" category in Jeopardy.

      -hadohk

  50. Bored of Ken by Walrus99 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually I am getting sort of tired of watching Ken. I used to watch Jeopardy every evening, but have tunned out lately. He has gotten the signaling button down. Most of the lower value questions are general knowledge and its a matter of who ever signals in first. If you can control the board you can choose the categories and can pic the ones you know more about, also you have a greater chance of getting a daily double. This give an adavantage to those who have been on for a few shows and has gotten used to the timing of the signaling button, regardless of knowledge.

    I say bring back the five show rule and get some competition back in the game.

  51. Re:Great timing, it's on sale (slickdeals) today.. by tuffy · · Score: 1

    It's also worth nothing that Disney has acquired the Totoro DVD rights and will be putting out their own version, probably sometime in 2005. It'll be widescreen, anamorphic, bilingual and will undoubtedly sport a new dub.

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  52. Don't be silly by mattbot+5000 · · Score: 1

    Trebek sells life insurance.

  53. How'd he get so good? by Will2k_is_here · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if another has commented on this (I'm not going to go through all comments to find it), but he heads a team that develops questions for a high school aged quiz bowl. That's where a lot of his useless knowledge comes from.

  54. I Just Hope... by Insipid+Trunculance · · Score: 1

    That no one in the audience is coughing.

    Because a Major won a million pounds with help from his cpughing friends.

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    1. Re:I Just Hope... by admdrew · · Score: 1

      That Major was also convicted of cheating to win said million pounds. He also, interestingly enough, was convicted of fraud in an unrelated case that stems from his actions taking place slightly before the Millionaire scandal.

      He's now hundreds of thousands of pounds in debt. Sucks to be him, I guess.

    2. Re:I Just Hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, that was on Millionaire, where the questions are multiple-choice. It's a bit tough to cough out 'The Great Depression' without being noticed...

    3. Re:I Just Hope... by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I saw one Millionare show here in the US.. I swear the guy was cheating.

      Regis kept asking him why he was fiddling with his ear.

      The guy worked for some secret government agency, and wouldn't talk about his job.

      When he did a phone a friend, there was feedback on the line, something that could only happen if his phone friend was listening to the show be recorded live.

      The guy was on twice, and quit both times at the half million dollar level. The second time, half the money was for charity.

      I never saw any news story about this guy, so I guess he got away with it. Nice way to pull down $750,000 leveraging high tech survelliance gear.

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  55. Ken on slashdot by wahsapa · · Score: 0

    he is a software engineer, how hard would it be to get a slashdot interview?

  56. How he finally loses by nukeade · · Score: 1, Funny

    New slashdot poll maybe?

    Once the producers decide that the never losing fad gets old:

    -They enter Trebek as both host and contestant.

    -Jeopardy goes the way of reality television and the other contestants vote him off the show.

    -Knowing that women are Kryptonite to nerds, they make an entire show with non-pornographic female-related questions.

    1. Re:How he finally loses by bbay · · Score: 1

      Y'know, I would totally watch the show if it turned into "Win Alex Trebek's Money".

      I bet he doesn't know shit without the cards.

      In other news, do you remember that X-Files episode where Trebek was one of the weird alien Men-In-Black guys? I remember remarking to a friend of mine, "That's not really Alex Trebek, he just seems to be him, so what if Alex Trebek happened to be there, wouldn't that be weird?"

      And then she said, "Yeah, it'd be like 'Alex Trebek and Alex Trebek in... _Double_Jeopardy_'."

      It was basically one of the funniest things that I've ever heard, maybe you had to be there.

      (Or maybe you had to be on drugs.)

  57. Occam's Razor by AssFace · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think the obvious answer is the simplest one:

    He is a cybernetic mutant from the future that was programmed to have all of the answers to a series of game show questions so that he could be sent back in time, win the prize money, and then use said money to fund his killing spree which eventually allows the robots to rise up and take over the earth while only a handful of humans remain plotting to overthrow the robot regime and one day reign supreme again.

    And hookers. He is going to blow a ton of that cash on whores.
    I know I would.

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  58. Tour de Freedom by cimber · · Score: 3, Funny

    Slate says the Tour de France pales

    That's Tour de Freedom if you please.

  59. What does he do? by rnelsonee · · Score: 1
    So Slate says he's a software engineer, which I've heard. I've also heard from the same mouths that he writes trivia questions for a living - is there any truth to this? Like suppose his job is implement trivia questions into a software program?

    Just what the rumor around here is, and I was wondering if it's true. It certainly explains his breadth of knowledge (and slight lack of newer pop culture questions).

    1. Re:What does he do? by HungWeiLo · · Score: 0

      At Brigham Young University, he was an English and computer science major. Being a nerd who also happens to know a lot about literature goes a long ways in Jeopardy.

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  60. Or Maybe by glass_window · · Score: 1

    They'll just ask him to sign a contract to replace Alex? It's insane enough that it sounds like the ingenious workings of a producer.

  61. Jeopardy addict, am I by The+I+Shing · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I watch Jeopardy!, I childishly yell out "Triple Stumper!" whenever I know the correct response and all three of the contestants either get it wrong or don't respond, and I'll sometimes do a little dance.

    And if that happens during Final Jeopardy, I yell out "Final Jeopardy Triple Stumper!" and I'll break into an extended, elaborate dance, not unlike a wide receiver dancing in the endzone after a touchdown. I get maybe one of those every three months. The evening when I performed that dance while watching Jeopardy! with my girlfriend and her parents is particularly memorable.

    Then there was a friend of mine who got a "Ultimate Mega Final Jeopardy Triple Stumper," where he correctly guessed the response before the clue was even given, knowing only the category, and all three contestants got it wrong. As I recall, his head exploded. That was quite a day.

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    1. Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've done this. Though I must admit I do not recall how the contestents faired.

      Catagory: Famous Ships
      Response: What is the Edmond Fitzgerald

      Answered before they even made it to the commercial break. Booya Grandma, Booya.

    2. Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by eddy · · Score: 1

      I've done this. Though I must admit I do not recall how the contestents [fared].

      Me too. The final category was something like "Viking settlements" and I screamed "Birka!"... which later proved to be the answer they sought.

      And I don't even have a habit of doing that, just a one-off. Lucky for me, I had a witness too :-)

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    3. Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by JollyFinn · · Score: 1

      Then there was a friend of mine who got a "Ultimate Mega Final Jeopardy Triple Stumper," where he correctly guessed the response before the clue was even given, knowing only the category, and all three contestants got it wrong. As I recall, his head exploded. That was quite a day.
      Don't use illegal fireworks, its a felony! [learnin trivia of stuff that matters .]

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    4. Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by xgamer04 · · Score: 1

      I used illegal fireworks here (Minnesota) and all I got was the few I hadn't shot off confiscated by the local cops. Good job, poindexter.

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    5. Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by Gio+Angles · · Score: 1

      Then there was a friend of mine who got a "Ultimate Mega Final Jeopardy Triple Stumper," where he correctly guessed the response before the clue was even given, knowing only the category, and all three contestants got it wrong. As I recall, his head exploded. That was quite a day.

      I got one of these also. The category was American History, and I blurted out "Who is Hannibal Hamlin?" The answer was "He was the first Republican to serve as Vice President."

      One person didn't know, the other two picked Andrew Johnson. I have to admit, my head ALMOST exploded.

    6. Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Who is Hannibal Hamlin?"

      Easy... That's the guy from LA LAW who married that Partridge family chick Susan Dey

    7. Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm guessing nobody has ever taught you about the birds and the bees.

    8. Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by JollyFinn · · Score: 1

      "I used illegal fireworks here (Minnesota) and all I got was the few I hadn't shot off confiscated by the local cops. Good job, poindexter."
      It depends where you are and all kinds things.

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  62. I'm suing SCO... by codguy · · Score: 1

    I think it's impossible for my Slashdot-oriented brain to process "software" and "Utah" and "domination" all in the same sentence, and have it end up positive. I'm suing SCO, those bloody bastids!!!

    Honestly, I have to say Ken is pretty unbelievable--he has an incredible breadth of knowledge. Seriously, some folks were saying he is just a good button presser. This is BS--even if does press the button with uncommon expertise (how hard can it be???), he damn near well knows something about everything from opera to history to literature to science to whatever! I don't usually watch Jeopardy, my wife does, but lately I've been watching every night just to follow Ken's progress. Gotta say that it has me hooked...

    codguy

  63. Celebrity Jeopardy by schroedinbug · · Score: 1

    It's too bad most of the original skit members of SNL's Jeopardy have left. This would be a great time to start the skits back up.

    For once, maybe someone will actually have a positive score :)

    1. Re:Celebrity Jeopardy by WebGangsta · · Score: 1

      It could happen -- if SNL weren't in their dreadful summer hiatus when all the cool stuff happens, Will Ferrel could come back to host while he promoted ANCHORMAN.

  64. Tour does not Pale in comparison by Bricklets · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think it may be difficult for many Americans to appreciate what a feat Lance Armstrong has been able to accomplish by winning these past few Tours. I happenly vacationed in Paris last summer around the time the Tour was going on, and let me say that was one insane tour Armstrong had to go through. I'd never seen cycling before then, but I'm now forever hooked. On the first day there was a massive crash among the huge swarm of cyclists in their final dash to the finishing line. Armstrong had also crashed. On the ground with his bike broken, one of his teammates stopped beside him and handed him his own bike so that Armstrong could finish the race. Amazing.

    Another time the tires of a cyclist in front of him exploded and that cyclist went skidding across the pavement. I don't remember how fast they were going (maybe 40-50mph), but Armstrong just barely misses running the guy over but had to swerve off track onto the grass before finally getting back on the road and continuing on. And there was one day when due to perhaps his own mistake, he ran out of water. By the time he finished that day he was completely dehydrated and had lost 1/3 of his body mass. Crazy.

    And finally the tour had a thriller of an ending. I think the day before the Tour ended Armstrong was still neck and neck with this closest competitor. Racing through a timed trial in the rain, Armstrong finished a bit slow if I remember correctly, but the other guy ended crashing on the wet road, losing too much time and hence guaranteed Armstrong's victory. A toss-up to the very end. Amazing.

    And so while Ken Jennings is certainly impressive with his winnings so far, I'd be hard press to say that the Tour pales in comparison.

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    1. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by YetAnotherDave · · Score: 1

      I just want to add that the reason the other guy crashed was that it was soo $#%^ hot that the pavement they were going 50 Kph+ on was MELTING!

      Lance's cyclocross dismount/remount avoiding the crash was simply spectacular...

    2. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by Bricklets · · Score: 1

      Completely agree. And didn't France's heat wave that claimed so many lives that summer started around then as well. Wow. That was some race.

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    3. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by pmc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ah - you missed out the moutain stage - stage 15 - where he effectively won the race. He was going up this HC climb (really steep and long) with Jan Ullrich and Tyler Hamilton in his group - the leader of the stage being about a minute a head.

      Lance attacked and was starting to pull away when his handlebar got caught on a spectator's bag and he crashed to the ground most spectacularly. Jan's and Tyler's group went by him and slowed to wait - tradition demands you beat the yellow jersey, not take advantage of misfortune.

      Lance climbed back on his bike and immediately the chain slipped and he went groin first into the top-bar - eyewatering stuff. He got his rhythm again, caught up with the group. And kept going - straight through them. Tyler and Jan just could not respond and Lance went on to win the stage by 40 seconds. This gave him enough margin to eliminate any possible challenge in the last time trial.

      Tyler Hamilton, incidently, broke his collar-bone on stage one. He still went on to win a stage and finish overall fourth last year. True "Clash of the Titans" stuff. And people think a quiz-show compares?

    4. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know that you're wrong but I highly doubt that Lance lost 1/3 of his body mass when dehydrated. Now maybe he lost 1/3 of his water body mass (does such a thing exist)... but I doubt he started the race weighing 180 pounds and ended weighing 120 pounds.

      I'm not trying to diminsh Lance's accomplishments. The man is amazing and what he (and all the contenders) does in the Tour de France is crazy wild impressive.

    5. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Maybe you have lower standards of amusement, but it does not make me feel good to watch a guy crash his nutsack into a bike frame, nor does it impress me.

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    6. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by maf212 · · Score: 0

      ah, but you forget...

      Lance had testicular cancer. So, obviously it isn't gonna hurt when you smash your groin into something when you've got no balls.

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    7. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by EmagGeek · · Score: 2, Informative

      I still cringe deeply to the core of my being every time I see the replay of Joseba Beloki's fateful crash in Stage 9 last year. Indeed, Armstrong put his cyclocross skills to good use to avoid that crash, but I remember hearing Beloki's screams of agony as he lay there on the ground, both himself and his bike, broken.

      He had a compound fracture of his elbow and broke his Femur (in two places, IIRC). That was by far one of the worst crashes I have ever seen involving only one rider, and is one of the many reasons I will never ride tubulars.

      What had happened was that, in braking down the hill, the rear rim heated enough to soften the glue that was holding his tire on... he lost the tire, and down he went.

      Just one minor argument, however. I think that if you lose 1/3 of your body mass in water, you're dead. Usually if you lose just 3-4% of your bodyweight in water, you lose the ability to move effectively. 33% is just fatal :)

    8. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by pmc · · Score: 1

      That stage was declared an epic for good reason.
      It makes me feel good to watch a man triumph over adversity - to rise above all that fate and his competitors can throw at him, to overcome all, and join the pantheon of sporting legends.

      You, however, may prefer the heros in comic books.

    9. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by Pionar · · Score: 1

      No doubt it's difficult, and Americans do realize that, we just don't really care. We're brainwashed to think that if we don't care, we're not cool or sophisticated. Not true. We just don't care.

    10. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by Alsee · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bah, anyone can ride a bike. But how many people know the combination to Kirk's safe in episode 25, where the crew of the Enterprise gets attacked by these spores and started acting real weird, like hippies and stuff.

      I'd just like to say... GET A LIFE, will you? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just BICYCLING! I mean, look at you, look at the way you're dressed, pink and black SPANDEX! You've turned an enjoyable little toy, that we all played with for a few years as children, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME!

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    11. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by Bricklets · · Score: 1

      I think that if you lose 1/3 of your body mass in water, you're dead. Usually if you lose just 3-4% of your bodyweight in water, you lose the ability to move effectively.

      Oops, you're absolutely right. After looking it up, it looks like he lost 8% of his total body mass. Also, I just read that a 5-8% loss in body mass results in at least 20% less power. Amazing in what he was able to do while so dehydrated. And thanks for the correction.

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    12. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by pmc · · Score: 1

      Just one minor argument, however. I think that if you lose 1/3 of your body mass in water, you're dead. Usually if you lose just 3-4% of your bodyweight in water, you lose the ability to move effectively. 33% is just fatal :)


      Too right at 33%. I remember this and it was something like 10lb he lost - about 7% body mass.

    13. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      While I have nothing against the heros (sic) in comic books - some of them are quite entertaining - the heroes I prefer are those which put their life on the line in pursuit of a goal. Putting your gonads on the line is a distant second.

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    14. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by SonOfThor · · Score: 1
      While I have nothing against the heros (sic) in comic books - some of them are quite entertaining - the heroes I prefer are those which put their life on the line in pursuit of a goal. Putting your gonads on the line is a distant second.


      People such as this KenJen fellow, no doubt. Truly, putting his life on the line for all of us. How noble.
    15. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'd just like to say... GET A LIFE, will you? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just BICYCLING! I mean, look at you, look at the way you're dressed, pink and black SPANDEX! You've turned an enjoyable little toy, that we all played with for a few years as children, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME!"

      It's just like using linux isn't it. Asshole.

    16. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by pmc · · Score: 1

      the heroes I prefer are those which put their life on the line in pursuit of a goal

      Stage 15 last year - the one I was talking about - started with a minute's silence for the cyclist Lauri Aus, an Estonian professional cyclist who died the previous day in a training accident (he was hit by a truck).

      All professional cyclists are acutely aware that their lives are on the line, especially during training.

    17. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      He's no hero of mine - he's a person whose brain naturally lends itself to storing and rapidly (and accurately) retrieving trivia. If anything, I'm jealous.

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    18. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by Alsee · · Score: 1

      Asshole.

      I'm sorry but the correct question was " What is Saturday Night Live?"

      You lost on Jeopardy, baby!

      And let me tell you what you didn't win: a twenty volume set of the Encyclopedia International, a case of Turtle Wax, and a yeard's supply of Rice-A-Roni, the San Francisco Treat. But that's not all. You also made yourself look like a jerk in front of millions of people. You brought shame and disgrace to your family name for generations to come. You don't get to come back tomorrow. You don't even get a lousy copy of our home game. You're a complete loser!

      Don't know what you was thinkin' of
      I guess you just wasn't too bright
      Well, I sure hope you do better
      Next weekend on The Price Is Right.

      You lost on Jeopardy, baby.

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    19. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      naw, I'm pretty sure any one on slashdot could beat him if we took the time.

      not really that impressive

    20. Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison by 44BSD · · Score: 1

      Lance has half as much chance of injury from a high-velocity impact with the top-tube, after all.

      The amazing thing about that incident is the speed with which Lance swerved to avoid the crashed rider in front of him. Seeing it at actual speed, rather than slo-mo, it was instantaneous.

      Interesting question about Hamilton chasing down Ullrich to get him to wait up -- if Ullrich is so easy to catch up to, why doesn't Hamilton challenge him all the time? :^)

      Hamilton's pain threshold is insane. This is a guy who had to have dental work done on his molars because while riding injured he ground them down so badly by clenching his teeth to handle the discomfort.

      I dare say that the typical MD knows as much minutiae as Ken, but it is focused in a comparatively narrow area. OTOH, Ken is 10 miles wide and a foot deep. The rest of us are five miles wide and six inches deep. Ken is impressive, but the Tour riders are astonishing.

  65. how else? by way2trivial · · Score: 2, Interesting
    muscle memory...

    I occasionally go overseas to visit extended family.. i get tapped by friends of the family to look at computers, these folks have win 3.1 (and even one with win 3.0) and win 95 machines

    I typed a 80% complete autoexec.bat from scratch, just by letting my fingers go.. I was trying on the way over to the house, (knew what I was going to be doing) to remember all the lines, and couldn't.
    with dos edit open, and a lable at the top that read 'autoexec.bat' it just kinda oozed outta my fingers non-stop....

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  66. just like a towel by emilng · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you're going to reliably answer a question about who happened to be president in a given year, then you pretty much have to know the entire chronology of the presidency

    Just like if you had a towel then you pretty much have to be in possession of a toothbrush, washcloth, soap, tin of biscuits, flask, compass, map, ball of string, gnat spray, wet-weather gear, space suit etc., etc.

    1. Re:just like a towel by El_Smack · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dude, if you have a towel, you don't need all that other stuff.

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    2. Re:just like a towel by GeoGreg · · Score: 1

      You may not have all that stuff, but at least you will be a hoopy frood.

    3. Re:just like a towel by vandoravp · · Score: 1

      All the other stuff pales in usefulness compared to a towel.

  67. How dare you compare this to the TdF?! by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

    I say all of this with a smile on my face...

    First of all, Lance makes more money than that for just _showing up_ at the race, and winning 5 and possibly now 6 of them in a row is completely unprecedented, and certainly a much more impressive feat than answering a bunch of questions about information nobody cares about (the definition of trivia - it does not matter). There is MUCH more strategy involved, much more brainpower, in winning a TdF. You not only have to be stronger, but smarter, than all of your competition - and there are 191 of them in 21 opposing teams at the start, not just two who are not even working together against you.

    I, for one, would take the TdF over Jeopardy any day... it's much more exciting and certainly more newsworthy.... IMHO :)

    1. Re:How dare you compare this to the TdF?! by infolib · · Score: 1

      winning 5 and possibly now 6 of them in a row is completely unprecedented

      Winning 5 was done by Anquetil, Merckx, Hinault and Indurain. Winning 6 would be unprecedented.

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    2. Re:How dare you compare this to the TdF?! by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

      What I meant to say was

      "Winning (5 and possibly now 6) in a row", not "Winning 5 (and possibly now 6 in a row)"... sorry for the confusion..

      Only Indurain has won 5 in a row (1991-1995) prior to Mr. Armstrong... The two Frenchmen came close, but had one win off in some other, yet nearby, year...

    3. Re:How dare you compare this to the TdF?! by infolib · · Score: 1

      Yet again english fails through being non-associative... It's a wonder that we're able to communicate at all :-)

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    4. Re:How dare you compare this to the TdF?! by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

      What? I don't understand... ;p

      Wicked crashes yesterday, eh? I wonder what today will bring... it's been a crappy wet tour so far..

  68. Also... by scootr1 · · Score: 1

    ...they doubled the value of the questions when they kicked the 5-day limit.

  69. The Kenminator! by Kong99 · · Score: 1
    This guys just doesn't win he dominates, many times the other contestants just look helpless. If you compared Jeopardy to a sport like Boxing or Football Ken's games would be comparable to a first round KO or a 42-0 drubbing.

    I have not decided if Alex loves or hates 'em but he definitely is envious!

    The Nerds shall inherit the earth.... or what's left of it!

  70. Wheel of Fortune Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by LookSharp · · Score: 1

    This was my big night. Wheel of Fortune came on.

    Clue: Book and Author

    "##,### _______ _____ ___ ___ __ _____ _____"

    They hadn't even turned over the "special characters" before I knew 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea by Jules Verne. ... and then my head aslpode ...

    And now I sit here beign asked by the lameness filter to use fewer Junk Characters. *Sigh* sometimes those junk characters are NEEDED, man!

    1. Re:Wheel of Fortune Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by cmpalmer · · Score: 3, Funny

      My best Wheel of Fortune guess was:

      _ _ _ _ _ _ _

      _ _ _ _ _

      _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

      (person)

      I walked in when this puzzle flashed on the screen and I said, "Senator Barry Goldwater" and it was. No letters at all.

      Back in high school I was captain of my school's Scholar's Bowl team. In our championship game, we were really nervous and had too much caffeine before the match. The moderator started the game:

      "Toss up number one: Sher..."

      My finger slipped and I pressed my button. We had to answer or the other team could hear the entire question. So I said, "Robin Hood" and got it right. We won the match -- I think the other team got a bit demoralized.

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    2. Re:Wheel of Fortune Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by ameoba · · Score: 3, Funny

      Here's one for you, along the same vein...

      We were at the state Knowledge Bowl tourney and, somewhere in the middle of the 2nd round, we were in a 4-5 question set of "parts of speech" or somesuch. I accidentally hit the buzzer before the reader could completely get out the "what" at the start of the question. My team-mates glared at me, thinking that, for certain, I had blown the point. I said the first thing that came to mind...

      "Past Participle" ...and it was right. Unfortunately, we got smoked that round.

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    3. Re:Wheel of Fortune Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by Ray+Radlein · · Score: 2, Funny


      Reminds me of the first time I ever saw someone on the old Name That Tune say, "I can name that tune in no notes!" ...and succeed.

      The story would be much more entertaining, of course, if the tune in question had been John Cage's 4'33".

    4. Re:Wheel of Fortune Re:Jeopardy addict, am I by Big+Sweaty+Kevin · · Score: 1

      When I was playing Reach For The Top in high school, one of my teammates accidentally buzzed in on the first clue of a 40-point question (a four-part question worth less as more clues are read) after only the word "Who" had been asked.

      He threw up his hands in frustration. "I don't know -- Napoleon?"

      "Correct for 40 points!"

  71. Mastermind by skarth · · Score: 1

    I thought of Jeopardy as the ne plus ultra of quiz shows.

    That is, until I saw Mastermind.

    Mastermind is in a league of its own. The ominous music, the rapid fire questions, the solitary chair and the spotlight on the contestant... now THAT'S a quiz show.

  72. In fairness to past contestants... by ScreamingSlave · · Score: 1

    Jeopardy used to have a 5 day maximum for appearances and a few years ago they doubled the dollar amounts on the categories. Who knows what some past 5-day champions could have done?

  73. Obiously he's not playing well by Jahf · · Score: 2, Interesting
    (I had this scripted out years ago while doing an exercise in cubicle boredom ... figured I'd update it with the new points and add a line to compare his winnings :)

    Obviously he is not playing very efficiently as he has been winning only about .15% of the theoretical max (which for 26 days is $5,512,000)!


    #!/usr/bin/perl
    # jeopardy.pl ... determine the theoretical max winnings on Jeopardy!
    # optimal daily double location is the 6th $400
    $singleJeopardy = ((1000*6)+(800*6)+(600*6)+(400*6)+(200*5))*2;
    pri nt "Max Single Jeopardy round = $singleJeopardy\n";
    # doubleJeopardy doubles answer values
    # doubleJeopardy has 2 daily doubles
    # ... must sub value of 1 and double a 2nd time
    # ... again optimally the double replaces the lowest value, $400
    $doubleJeopardy = ($singleJeopardy - 400)*2;
    print "Max Double Jeopardy round = $doubleJeopardy\n";
    $finalJeopardy = ($singleJeopardy + $doubleJeopardy) * 2;
    print "Max Final Jeopardy! Winnings: $finalJeopardy\n";
    $totalJeopardy = $finalJeopardy * 26;
    print "26 days ... \$828,960 / $totalJeopardy = " . 828960 / $totalJeopardy . "% of max\n";

    # Results of "perl jeopardy.pl":
    # Max Single Jeopardy round = 35600
    # Max Double Jeopardy round = 70400
    # Max Final Jeopardy! Winnings: 212000
    # 26 days ... $828,960 / 5512000 = 0.150391872278665% of max


    ... while you can't assume that the daily doubles will always be in the lowest point category, that doesn't make too much difference in the overall points.

    It also shows why Super Millionaire is the place to play if you have that many trivial bits up top ... $10,000,000 in 30 minutes versus less than $1,000,000 in a month of playing (unless Jeopardy! runs that contestant 7 days a week he's over a month). Hopefully for his sake *laugh* they won't disqualify him from SM.

    I mean ... really!

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    1. Re:Obiously he's not playing well by Jahf · · Score: 1

      Sorry ... bad % marker ... I meant he's only getting 15%, not .15% ... I'll fix that in version 3.

      To patch YOUR version:


      cat jeopardy.pl | sed 's/828960 \/ \$totalJeopardy/\(828960 \/ \$totalJeopardy\) \* 100/g' > jeopardy3.pl

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    2. Re:Obiously he's not playing well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      # 26 days ... $828,960 / 5512000 = 0.150391872278665% of max

      Actually, that's 15% of the max. Not bad, Ken!

    3. Re:Obiously he's not playing well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I appended my post 17 minutes before you posted this, so nya! Next time I'll put it on SourceForge so that you can check out CVS before complaining about bugs :)

    4. Re:Obiously he's not playing well by MrMonty · · Score: 1

      After Double Jeopardy
      ((35600 + 35200) * 2) * 2 = $283,200

      After Final Jeopardy
      $566,400

    5. Re:Obiously he's not playing well by Jahf · · Score: 1

      By gum, you're right, I didn't have the single added in for the doubling of the 2nd round. Well obviously this is more case for a CVS repository.

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    6. Re:Obiously he's not playing well by RuneB · · Score: 1
      I thought the daily doubles were never in the lowest point slot (never in the $200 slot for Single Jeopardy, and never in the $400 slot for Double Jeopardy). So you'd have ((3000*6)-400)*2 = 35200 for the first round (optimally having the single daily double at the end in one 400 slot).

      Then in Double Jeopardy, you'd have (35200 + ((6000*6)-800-800)) * 2 * 2 = 278400 (optimally having the two daily doubles at the end in two 800 slots) then double it again for final to get 556800.

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    7. Re:Obiously he's not playing well by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Yes, but that Super Millionaire payout assumes that you always win. Jeopardy is more fault tolerant system. What you lost in pure performance (in dollars per day) you make up for with question redundancy...in fact, considering the high levels of energy used in furrowing the brow for the really tough questions, Jeopardy is more efficient in terms of brain cell usage per dollar.

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  74. ken's winning... and SPOILER by Mickey+Jameson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    [spoiler]
    Ken wins until July 23rd, the last episode of this season. When the next season airs, he wins the first 10 shows, amassing somewhere in the tune of $1.5 million.

    This season stopped taping in February and he can't legally comment on anything related to the show until his reign is over.
    [/spoiler]

    That said, I don't think this guy is all that special. Who knows how many prior 5 day champs could have done what Ken has.

    And don't ask me how I know. Let's just say a little birdie told me.

    1. Re:ken's winning... and SPOILER by polyiguana · · Score: 2, Informative

      From Usenet:

      The current season of Jeopardy will air new shows through July 23.
      From then until sometime right after Labor Day they will air repeats.

      Jeopardy wrapped taping of this season's shows in April, at which time
      they also taped the first ten shows of next season.

      As of the July 23rd show Ken Jennings will have won 38 shows, and when
      they return in the fall he will be seen to win the first ten shows of
      the new season, with a cumulative total winning somewhere around 1.5
      million.

      They will resume taping for the 2004-5 season sometime in August, when
      Ken Jennings will return to continue as undefeated champion for who
      knows how long. So yes, Ken is home in Utah right now, waiting until
      August.

  75. Sean Connery by schnits0r · · Score: 1

    OH thats nothing! Sean Connery has been on far more episodes then this guy.

    Buck futter

  76. WOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I didn't even know Jeopardy! was still on, and Alex Trebek still alive! You guys are geeks!

  77. How do they keep the audience quiet? by Cuthbert+Calculus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Especially considering these are taped weeks in advance. I know the contestants are sworn to secrecy, but how do they make sure no one in the audience squeals? I mean--presuming he's lost by now--surely someone at the taping must have seen it. That's an awful lot of mouths to keep quiet.

    1. Re:How do they keep the audience quiet? by GeoGreg · · Score: 3, Funny

      You think the audience members get out of the studio alive? Where do you think Soylent Green comes from?

  78. Re:Polar Bears at North Pole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm guessing you meant the North MAGNETIC pole?
    At the true geographic north pole, there is no land, no easily accessible water, no easily accessible mammals of ANY kind... you'd have to go a thousand miles south to, oh I dunno, Ellesemere island before you'd run into any.

  79. 'Photographic' memory? by Ndr_Amigo · · Score: 1

    If such a thing does exist, this guy sounds like a canidiate for it :)

    I have never ever heard of anybody proving the existence of the so-called 'Photographic Memory' ability, mind you. And common theory is that it doesn't exist outside of childhood eidetic memory.

    Then again, the idea still persists and many people are under the belief that it IS a proven and reliable ability.

  80. Torrents? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about for us Europeans? Aren't there any torrents out there? This I gotta see...

  81. I wonder? by KillaKen187 · · Score: 1

    I wonder how much his hotel stay has cost him? I also wonder if they have thought about renaming the show, Kenpardy?

  82. Had to be done.... by Phixxr · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our Jeopardy overlord!

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  83. I disagree by HermesHuang · · Score: 1

    Granted, this is judging by his own words. But I seriously think Lance is a masochist at heart. From the interviews I've read, he lives for the pain and suffering of the Tour. Kinda makes you wonder about the other 200 odd competitors.

    I'm sure there is doping going on in the bicycling world. But the big competitors like Lance and Ulrich are probably clean, if nothing else because they're in the spotlight so much. This isn't a case like Sammy Sosa's bat which broke apart for everyone to see the insides, this is closer to the allegations against Barry Bonds, where all the evidence is anecdotal and quite circumstantial at best. I still adhere to the whole "innocent until proven guilty" line. Until you show solid proof that something is wrong, I'm not going to go around smearing people. But unfortunately, in this world sometimes being successful is enough to get your name reviled, from jealously or whatever.

  84. He has a webpage! (for real) by kaden · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet (apparantly). Ken Jennings has a webpage! I'm sorry to report to the /. crowd that it was designed in MS Word. But it seems to be more of a personal checklist (and a window into how he got so much "useless" knowledge) than a page he intended for other people to see.

    1. Re:He has a webpage! (for real) by supergwiz · · Score: 1

      forget MS Word. He broke a higher cardinal nerd learn. LoTR ROTK is only #3 on his top ten movies list.

    2. Re:He has a webpage! (for real) by Mantle · · Score: 1

      Wow, he hasn't seen Forrest Gump.

  85. That's what they say when you walk by by paiute · · Score: 1

    What is "Welcome to Loserville. Population one: you."

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  86. An old friend in Utah... by mosel-saar-ruwer · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think it's impossible for my Slashdot-oriented brain to process "software" and "Utah" and "domination" all in the same sentence, and have it end up positive.

    Positive or Negative: Novell NetWare, version 2.x, circa 1988, almost 100% market share

    Positive or Negative: Novell SuSE Linux/Ximian "dotGNU", version 10.x, circa 2008, almost 100% market share

  87. And The Categories Are... by qtone42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'll take "Swords" for $1000, Trebeck!

    1. Re:And The Categories Are... by Tiny+Elvis · · Score: 1

      Don't forget "The Penis Mightier" and "The Rapists"..

  88. Re:Incredible (Conspiracy theory follows) by hackstraw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's like he knows one of the guys who makes up the trivia. It's really incredible.

    OK, this is probably just paranoid thoughts going through my head, but give me a chance.

    Think about this. The Jeopardy people approach some guy. Say, hey we can fix you up with the answers for the questions and you will be the all time Jeopardy champ of champs. You will win about $1 mil on the show, and loose to somebody. We will give you $250,000 upfront and $250,000 when its over.

    So, the ratings go through the roof for Jeopardy (more $$$). The Jeopardy people are actually paying out 1/2 of their prize money, and the nerdy guy comes out with a cool 1/2 mil, and people enjoy seeing him win and talking about it.

    Sounds like a win-win situation for everybody.

    Are there any ethics to game shows? I mean most everything else is fiction on TV, do game shows have to be real?

  89. (just an FYI, grandparent) by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 1

    mhollis (the parent) is implying that usually you will find Jeopardy! on an ABC affiliate's station at about 7PM, and that in most other markets it is not typical WB fare.

    The only other network I am aware of that runs Jeopardy! is the Game Show Network, and even then they don't run the current season.

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    1. Re:(just an FYI, grandparent) by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      It's on a CBS station where I live, and at 7PM.

    2. Re:(just an FYI, grandparent) by mhollis · · Score: 1

      I am not implying anything. Syndicated shows are sold to stations within each market one-by-one (or, as in the way the King brothers sell shows in groups of shows to individual stations). King World also sells to cable networks and I am not surprised that they syndicate Jeopardy! to GSN.

      Your particular market may show the game on CBS this year and on ABC next year -- it all depends on how much faith the broadcaster has that the show will rake in an audience and make money for the station and how much the station wants to pay for the show. It is not a networked show, it is a syndicated show.

      In the last year, the CBS network paid handsomely to buy the syndication company and made the King Brothers, especially Michael King very rich. But their means of distribution remains the same: The highest bidder in each market gets the show.

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  90. Lance has a unique "condition". by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 1

    He has what would normally be consider a genetic defect in that he does not produce as much of that chemical (I forget what it's called, some kind of acid) that makes muscles feel tired/cramped after long periods of usage. It's supposed to keep a person from hurting themselves. But Lance has trainers and a medical staff behind him, looking after his fitness, so it's probably a better thing that he doesn't have that limitation.

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    1. Re:Lance has a unique "condition". by schovanec · · Score: 1
      chemical (I forget what it's called, some kind of acid) that makes muscles feel tired/cramped after long periods of usage.
      I believe that chemical is lactic acid.
    2. Re:Lance has a unique "condition". by Crazy+Man+on+Fire · · Score: 2, Informative

      That is correct. Lance produces lactic acid at an insanely reduced rate. This allows him to push himself much further before fatigue and eventual exhaustion and muscle failure set in.

    3. Re:Lance has a unique "condition". by JohnsonWax · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In a previous life, I worked at a company that wrote software for sports computers - heart rate, mph, what have you. They hired a guy to come and test the software - ride the bike, treadmill, etc. who had this same condition.

      He was amazing - he could ride/run at full speed nearly without limit. So long as he kept refueling - getting oxygen and nutrients, he said mentally he could go nearly forever since he never experienced fatigue pain. The danger was that his body gave him no clues before failure. He could ride until his heart failed or his muscles tore. To him, the computers were necessary because he could make sure his heart rate stayed below critical levels and he could stop himself before he did any real damage.

    4. Re:Lance has a unique "condition". by Omerna · · Score: 1

      I'm skeptical. He should have World Records in just about every event in every sport that involves endurance. Think every event over 800m in running for a start. The Olympic class runners can't even run flat out for 800m (I mean, they run way faster than most people throughout the race, but they definitely slow down as they get further into the race).

      If he was really scared of hurting himself in races such as those he would just need to shadow the lead runner and then pass him right at the end-- because he wouldn't be tired right?

      But hey, maybe he didn't capitalize on his unique condition for some reason I'm not aware of.

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    5. Re:Lance has a unique "condition". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The danger was that his body gave him no clues before failure. He could ride until his heart failed or his muscles tore.

    6. Re:Lance has a unique "condition". by Omerna · · Score: 1

      And if he only ran as fast as OTHER PEOPLE WERE RUNNING ALREADY then he would be fine. They aren't tearing their muscles, neither would he. (Assuming proper conditioning, of course).

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  91. Re:Incredible (Conspiracy theory follows) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am pretty sure that is illegal, based upon my extensive knowledge of the movie Quizshow.

  92. Chuck would beat KenJen hands down! by pbegley · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ken is doing a good job. He has techniques like answering with the fewest details and always phrases his answers as a question.

    However, the only reason he has won 25 days in a row is because they changed the rules of the game.

    I forget his last name, but supercontestant Chuck from the 80's would clean KenJen's clock. Chuck gave very complete answers, including one reference in Hebrew that the judges missed the first time and gave him points after researching the answer.

    Anyone remember Chuck's last name? He didn't win the overall on one of the Champion match-ups, but he was a very impressive contestant.

    1. Re:Chuck would beat KenJen hands down! by GeoGreg · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Chuck Forrest. Who, according to this site is hunting Iraqi war criminals.

  93. Time involved by q2k · · Score: 1

    I don't think Jeopardy is actually filmed daily is it? I think I remember reading somewhere that they film a weeks worth of shows in one day. That is actually more impressive in my opinion. Not only is he kicking ass, he is maintaining that level of concentration through what must be one fairly long day.

  94. Political Theory by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Speaking of which, does anyone else notice that Bush advertises on Wheel of Fortune and Kerry on Jeopardy?

    Here in Atlanta, the local NBC affiliate bumped Jeopardy down from 7:00 into an afternoon time slot in favor of another local news program (in case folks missed the one at 6:00 due to our prolonged exposure to extremely heavy traffic). My guess is that Junior's folks are just playing to the percentages - looking to "borrow eyeballs" from greatest number of post-local news viewers.

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  95. So how good will the *next* champion be? by debest · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Assuming that he doesn't just quit first....

    The guy is so good, you know that he'll never do anything stupid enough to lose. There have likely been many like him on this show, but they never had this chance (the limit on 5 wins cut them off).

    It will take another super-duper geek to beat him. Is this the future of Jeopardy? "Unbeatable" champions that just win for months at a time? Personally, that'll get boring quick. Having a heroic run once in a while is thrilling: having it happen all the time is just dull. Michael Schumacher's dominance has similarly turned me off of F1 racing.

    Methinks another rule change may be in the making for next season: a cap on earnings. Maybe $1,000,000 is the right amount.

    BTW, I'm REALLY looking forward to a "Tournament of Champions" where he can square off against some of the others that got cut off at 5 wins. I think he'd do well (likely very well), but he'd certainly not be a lock to beat some of the others we've seen on this show in the past.

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  96. We got a winner! by missing000 · · Score: 1
  97. The Tour is a Joke by ChrisN79 · · Score: 0, Informative

    Before you mod this as flamebait, read it.. I think I have some valid points here.

    I am tired of everyone going on and on about how amazing Lance Armstrong is. Sure, he is a fine athlete... he couldn't win these without being one. However you have to consider some other things when you think about Lance Armstrong:

    1. This is the only major race he participates in each year, unlike his competitors
    2. He spends all year training specifically for this event, unlike his competitors
    3. His teammates do what they can to help him win at the expense of their own times (I know this happens throughout cycling, but it's true nonetheless)

    To use an analogy: It would be like Tiger Woods only playing the Masters every year. And practicing on the Masters course every week for the year leading up to it. And to top it off, he would make friends with other golfers, who would help screw up other golfers' games, to ensure that Tiger won. How many of you would consider Tiger Woods hands-down the best golfer in the world at that point? (I know this is a crude analogy, but it gets the point across)

    1. Re:The Tour is a Joke by robsimmon · · Score: 1

      >This is the only major race he participates in each year, unlike his competitors

      Wrong. Hamilton, Ullrich, and the other GC (overall time, as opposed to sprinting or climbing) contenders concentrate on the Tour.

      >He spends all year training specifically for this event, unlike his competitors

      Wrong. See above. All the contenders train for the TdF, and plan their spring racing seasons so they will peak in mid-July during the key climbing and time trial stages.

      >His teammates do what they can to help him win at the expense of their own times (I know this happens throughout cycling, but it's true nonetheless)

      Why is this a problem? Cycling is a team sport. Each team has a leader, and the other riders are hired to help that rider win. Teams without a strong GC rider will often focus on setting up a sprinter (Fassa Bartolo's Petacchi, for instance) for stage wins.

      Cycling is one of the best geek sports (along with rock climbing, IMHO). Not only do you have a high-tech piece of gear (your bike) but the science of bike riding and the tactics required to win are fascinating.

  98. video games by supergwiz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm sure he is a gamer. How would explain is god-like timing for the answer button.

  99. And more ... by gstoddart · · Score: 1
    Nothing is not worth knowing.

    For example, I know that if you are standed at the North Pole


    Here's aanother thing worth knowing ...

    you could be standing at the North Pole or stranded at the North Pole, but you' can't be standed at the North Pole.

    +1 Funny, +1 Grammar Nazi
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    1. Re:And more ... by xenocytekron · · Score: 1

      You can have "another" thing worth knowing, but not "aanother" thing worth knowing.

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    2. Re:And more ... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Sorry, childhood trauma with an aardvark. silly bunt. =)

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  100. link to the Micheal Larson press your luck story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/press-you r-luck/

    There is also a lot of other good reading in the rotten library.

  101. RE: your sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's really simple, actually. He wakes up in bed and Morpheus shows him how deep the rabbit hole really goes.

  102. Lance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Allegations of doping, disproven, winner of the last 5. Take your "All those guys (most of them)" doping crap and stick it.
    Sure, some guys do it. Some have even been caught. All? Most? Nonsense.

    Oh, and he may well win #6. Never done before.

  103. Plagiarism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The submitter's comments were lifted wholesale from the Slate article. Plagiarism is worse than bad form. It is downright immoral. The submitter should explain to us why his karma shouldn't be eliminated as a result.

    Oh, and we should strike the submission.

  104. From the future, indeed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "They took our gameshows!"

    Alright, everyone. Back in the pile.

  105. Re: You Left out the Ending! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's also interesting to note that this wasn't a fairy tale ending for Larson. After being paid by CBS he ended up cashing in his winnings as $1 bills in order to try and win a radio contest where you had to have a bill with a given serial # (Winner got $100k or so IIRC). Him and his girlfriend sat at home searching through the massive amount of cash he had trying to find the magic bill but one night he went to a Christmas party and returned to find out he had been robbed of all his money. He ended up dying alone and broke.

    This is a true story! I saw that show on game show network about it and it was probably one of the most amazing shows I've ever seen. Definitely check it out if you get a chance.

  106. Quiz Show? by Vaystrem · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Did anyone else think of Quiz Show when they saw this guy on the air for the first time? Quiz Show is a bout a game show that was rigged to ensure winners which boosted ratings were on the air for a long period of time... food for thought.

  107. Insightful?!? by lu004202 · · Score: 0

    You link to two articles where a handful of guys are under question.

    Well, how about this. The Quiz Show and Millionaire scandals prove that all those game show contestants (most of them) are cheaters and I don't consider it a fair contest anymore.

  108. Quote from Newsweek magazine by Octagon+Most · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "I feel like 'Cactus Gavvy' Cravath. Do you know who that is? Right. Nobody does. He's the guy who had the home run record before Babe Ruth came along." Tom Walsh, of Washington, D.C., who held the record for "Jeopardy" winnings until Ken Jennings of Salt Lake City broke it recently

    - Newsweek 7/12/04 issue

    1. Re:Quote from Newsweek magazine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course the previous home run record holder was either Ned Williamson (1884) for single season, or Roger Connor (138) for career.
      (disclaimer: different sources might have 137 for Connor total)

  109. Obligatory? by Mr+Guy · · Score: 1

    What a wonderful set up for a goatse troll.

  110. Re:Incredible (Conspiracy theory follows) by nelsonal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think you are correct also based on my extensive knowledge of Quizshow, but I'm curious why there was a congressional investigation into a television game show? It's good TV, why does it matter (legally or not) if it's fixed? Sure Pro Wrestling isn't the Olympics (not that they aren't just as corrupt) but it remains a fairly popular entertainment medium? Why was/is it so important?

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  111. Re: your sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OT, but very very fuh-neeeee!

  112. That's "allele" and it sounds correct by drjzzz · · Score: 2, Informative

    An "allele" is like the flavor of the gene, one particular sequence along the length of the chromosome containing the gene. Some genes have hundreds of alleles whereas others have very few or even a single sequence in the population. For example, the hundreds of "histocompatibility" alleles make it very hard to match transplant organ donors and recipients (HLA-B has >300 alleles). In contrast, the proteins that help compact DNA, histones, are highly conserved and differ only very slightly between even humans and peas (a fact that I still find amazing).

    Briefly, the Millionaire" answer sounds correct!

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  113. Why do you guys jump to conclusions.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haven't you ever met someone that has known lots of facts etc. Can't you just accept that this guy may know all this stuff?

    I would think a bunch of self-proclaimed nerds and geeks would appreciate and admire someone with such a memory for all those facts. Did you even know that he is Mormon and is planning on giving 10% of his winnings to the Church?

    Here is a bit of a biography about him from the NAQT (National Academic Quiz Tournaments, LLC) website.
    http://www.naqt.com/biographies.html#jen nings

    Ken Jennings grew up in Seattle, Seoul, and Singapore, and has since lived in Spain and Salt Lake City. He just now noticed that everywhere he has ever lived starts with the letter "S" and it's starting to creep him out a little bit. He played quiz bowl for BYU for three years before graduating with a degree in computer science, and now works as a software developer. He likes travel, Iron Chef, and Preston Sturges movies. He and his wife Mindy live with their son Dylan and their Labrador retriever Banjo. He currently edits literature and mythology questions for NAQT, which means he can now edit an Osiris/Isis/Horus bonus in his sleep.

  114. Re:Incredible (Conspiracy theory follows) by RowdyReptile · · Score: 1

    Why was/is it so important?

    People know WWE is fake but they watch it anyway. If people knew that Jeopardy was rigged, they'd watch it less, IMO. So it's important for the networks for people to believe that it's real.

    I don't know that there are any legal/congressional issues they'd be violating if it wasn't, however. Do game shows make any explicit promise that the outcome isn't scripted?

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  115. Hardly a cult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Yeah, you know ... cult ... like all those people in the bible:

    Gen. 14: 20 (Heb. 7: 2) gave him tithes of all.
    Gen. 28: 22 I will surely give the tenth unto thee.
    Lev. 27: 30 tithe of the land . . . is holy unto the Lord.
    Num. 18: 26 for the Lord, even a tenth part of the tithe.
    Deut. 12: 6 your tithes, and heave offerings.
    Deut. 14: 22 (Deut. 26: 12) tithe all the increase of thy seed.
    2 Chr. 31: 5 tithe of all things brought they in abundantly.
    Neh. 10: 38 Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes.
    Neh. 12: 44 for the treasures, to gather.
    Neh. 13: 12 brought all Judah the tithe of the corn.
    Mal. 3: 8 Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
    Matt. 23: 23 tithe of mint and anise and cummin.
    Luke 18: 12 I give tithes of all that I possess.

    1. Re:Hardly a cult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, all of Christianity is a cult too.

    2. Re:Hardly a cult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how did giving something to god become giving to the church?

  116. Chip? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any one else thinks he has a chip implanted in his head?

  117. Conspiracy? Perhaps. by david_reese · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Because of the Quiz Show scandal, Jeopardy and other game shows are monitored very closely by the Standards and Practices guys.

    And who monitors them? Seriously, these days with all sorts of corruption coming to light in business and government, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some of these "Standards and Practices guys" have ties to the network execs or show owners.

    Perhaps this is a test run, to see what the audience will eat up... a quick search on google turned up nothing on these "standards" guys.

    1. Re:Conspiracy? Perhaps. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      network standards guys

  118. Re:He's on the wrong show. [OT] by tntguy · · Score: 0

    Yes! That was it. Saw it on Game Show Network a some months ago. Knew it was a four-choice show. :-) Thanks.

  119. Re:Great timing, it's on sale (slickdeals) today.. by aiabx · · Score: 1

    Does the Disney version have an English language soundtrack? I watched Totoro the way it was meant to be watched - with my child - when she was too young to be able to read subtitles quickly enough and not dorky enough to have to pretend to be an anime purist.
    -aiabx

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  120. Because I love to spoil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Working at a TV station I get to see the shows ahead of time.

    He's now at $972,960. If he doesn't screw up he'll make a million "tomorrow".

  121. Way to go Ken by Hatfieldje · · Score: 0

    I just want to give a shout out to Ken. I used to work with him back when he was a student at BYU double majoring in CS and English. That guy saw more movies than anyone else that I know. He also took joy in finishing the NY Times Crossword puzzle. He seemed to just know every word.

    Good to see that studying all that "useless trivia" is now paying off. Good job Ken. Long live Dr. Frodo.

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  122. Re:link to the Micheal Larson press your luck stor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
  123. Interesting Stats by stevemm81 · · Score: 2, Informative

    They have some interesting stats on Jennings at tvgameshows.net. Apparently he's number 4 among all winners on syndicated game shows in terms of money earned (after the Million Dollar Tournament Of Champs Jeopardy winner and two syndicated Who Wants to Be a Millionaire Winners) and number 3 in all time number of game show appearances.

    The site also keeps track of his average winning and the number of wins he needs to hit various milestones.

  124. He has already lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/goldblatt200 407020023.asp Qoute from article: "Jeopardy! is taped months in advance. Jennings's run of shows actually occurred in February -- and he's already gone back home to Utah (though sworn to silence), so at some point he must have lost. I've no idea how...though my guess is what finally tripped him up was a too-easy board. After all, if you lower a basketball rim from ten feet to six feet, even average sized guys can suddenly play like giants."

    1. Re:He has already lost by pikester · · Score: 1

      Or he may have just gone home between tapings. If they aren't taping anything new until August, it would be an awfully long to hang out in Culver City. Oh wait, I hang out around the corner from Culver City everyday. I got to see him tape one show (my bosses wife was on), I keep on meaning to go back and watch another taping to see if he is still on. I guess I'll wait until August to find out.

  125. Re: your sig by NuclearDog · · Score: 1, Funny

    No, no, no!

    If he had taken both, he'd have no more heartburn!

    ND

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  126. Parent on-topic by NuclearDog · · Score: 0

    Parent is on-topic. Grandparent said: "Nothing is not worth knowing." then parent says "goatse?"

    Maybe I just need more caffiene...

    ND

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  127. I remember that show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I haven't seen any specials about it, but I remember watching it as a ~10 year old. He was presented as a kindly old former ice cream truck driver, and it seemed to me that they had rigged the show in his favor the way he would constantly hit the Big Bucks. They were also either putting subtitles on the screen or Tomarken would remark "This is incredibly improbably" or something to that effect.

  128. Re:Obviously he's not playing well by 503 · · Score: 1

    Super Millionaire is the place to play if you have that many trivial bits up top ... $10,000,000 in 30 minutes versus less than $1,000,000 in a month of playing

    Super Millionaire isn't exactly shown in real time. While each episode may be only 30 minutes (22 with commercials), the actual taping takes much much longer. Some contestants have taken more than 20 minutes to answer a single question. Of course, without that annoying pause before revealing the correct answer, I'm sure they could take each episode down to an even 10 minutes.

    I'm not sure about Jeopardy, but many gameshows tape a week of episodes in a single day. It's much cheaper to tape for three or four hours straight (which is then edited down to five 22-minute episodes; make sure you change your clothes for each episode, people) than it is to set up and tear down the studio five times.

    It's one of the reasons they rarely talk about current events during the banter segments; while taping Friday's episode on Monday afternoon, you have no idea what happened "yesterday". It's also a lot cheaper if you don't have to provide a week of accomodations for the contestants.

    So basically, yeah, Millionaire does offer a better payout for the time invested, but they're not as different as they may seem in tv time.

  129. Race Lance! by nlindstrom · · Score: 1

    I say we stick this guy on a bicycle and have him race Lance up a hill. Yeah. Good times!

  130. Nice to See Someone Tithing by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1

    For all that people would probably joke about making a donation to a church for "services rendered" by God if they won a game show or lottery or so on, I wonder how many people would actually do so. *wry grin* Human nature being what it is, they'd probably notice that that's 80,000 greenbacks they'd be giving and make up a loophole in their mind as to why they wouldn't have to donate. (Well, game shows really aren't my job so it wouldn't be wages... Besides which, God obviously wants me to keep the money.) OTOH, it could come in handy come tax time.
    Personally, I tithe 10% of my paycheck, but I've yet to have a windfall like this. *shrug* I hope that I do as well as him at handling it.

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  131. Re:The Man Who Got First Post by Lobo · · Score: 1

    I'll take "You fail it!" for $500 Alex!

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  132. Is he smart or quick on the buzzer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I am not a big fan of the show but I watched a couple of the episodes due to the hoopla. I tried to answer the questions as they came along, and I figured that IF I 'outbuzzed' him I would have come pretty damn close to beating him. I don't think the questions are that obscure, I think lots of folks in this forum could beat him knowledge wise - I think it is his buzzer speed that gives him the edge.
    Does anyone remember that old British show where they asked insanely difficult questions and these geniuses had to answer? Now that was tough, I remember watching few episodes - it made Jeopardy look like grade school

  133. Apples and Oranges by BTWR · · Score: 1
    first off, let me mention that this guy is AMAZING, and VERY WELL MIGHT BE the best jeopardy player ever.

    However, I'm surprised there was no mention in the blurb that until very recently (2003?) they used to limit winners to 5-game winning streaks. My uncle won 5 times in a row in '86, was the first tournament of champions winner, and that ended his reign. Again, this guy rocks, but it's not necessarily because he's the best ever.

  134. Some good TdF links!!! by mildness · · Score: 2, Informative
    Today had another fantastic stage. Lance went from Yellow Jersey to nine and a half minutes down! To add some perspective to that, Lance's winning margin last year was 61 seconds.

    Linkage:

    Le Tour

    BBC's Le Tour page

    The Guardian's page has excellant recaps

    Sports Illustrated's page

    ESPN

    OLN has the DAILY TV SCHEDULE

    8:30-9am ET LIVE Pre-Race Show
    9-11am ET LIVE Coverage
    12pm-2pm ET Re-Air of Live Coverage
    2:30-4:30pm ET Re-Air of Live Coverage
    5-7pm ET The Roadside Tour
    7:30-8pm ET Eastern Prime Time Pre-Race Show
    8-8:30pm PT Pacific Prime Time Pre-race Show
    8-10:30pm ET Eastern Prime Time Expanded Coverage
    8:30-11pm PT Pacific Prime Time Expanded Coverage

    Any other link recommendations?

    Billy

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    1. Re:Some good TdF links!!! by ipfwadm · · Score: 1

      Lance went from Yellow Jersey to nine and a half minutes down! To add some perspective to that, Lance's winning margin last year was 61 seconds.

      And to add some perspective to THAT, none of the guys that are in the lead now will have a prayer once the race gets to the mountains. You can bet that if any one of them were in contention for the overall title or any of the subtitles (see below), they wouldn't have opened up such a big lead. They won by that much because all the other teams allowed them to win by that much. Stuart O'Grady, the guy who won today's stage, finished the race 2 HOURS and 41 minutes behind Armstrong last year. For instance, he lost 42 minutes in a single stage (stage 8).

      That's one of the things that makes the race so strategic and interesting -- there are races within the race. Not only is there the race for the overall win (GC, or General Category; the leader wears the yellow jersey), there's also the King of the Mountains (best climber -- leader wears a polkadot jersey), Sprint Leader (green jersey), and best young rider (white jersey). Most of the top sprinters are in no way in contention for GC (they get killed in the mountains). Nor are most of the top climbers (they get killed in the flat time trials). It takes someone that's good all-around to win the race.

    2. Re:Some good TdF links!!! by mildness · · Score: 1
      Just trying to stir some interest Brother. Good Post.

      Bill

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  135. Uncut? No way. Not from Disney. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I recently watched Totoro for the first time, and there's a cat-bus in the movie which has testicles that are clearly visible in a couple scenes!

    There's no way Disney would leave that in. Either they'll cut the scenes, or they'll cut them off!

  136. Define "competition"... by cobra1729 · · Score: 1

    Personally, I think Tour De France is more exciting AND challenging than answering questions on jeopardy...

    Because my definition of competition is: pushing both the physical as well as mental conditioning of an individual. Obviously, you have to be in top physical shape to race in the Tour De France - not so in the case of Jeopardy.

    Bharath

  137. Re:Uncut? No way. Not from Disney. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wrong! The Ghibli/Disney deal clearly states in no uncertain terms that the movies cannot be cut in any manner.

  138. Reverence by Atario · · Score: 1

    "Wow! Check out the conniving on her!"

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  139. Funniest Thing I've Ever Seen by mdarksbane · · Score: 1

    I was in the audience at the taping college Jeopardy last year at OSU. In between shows, Trebek would walk around answering questions from the audience.

    One frat boy in the back yelled out "Do sean connery!"

    I thought Trebek would pull out some standard boring answer about parodies or something. Instead, he looked at the guy and said loud and clear in an excellent accent:

    "Suck it, Trebek. Suck it long and suck it hard."

    He seemed a bit of a goof on TV, but damn is he funny off screen.

  140. 27 by sharkey · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Actually, he's now at 27 wins and $868,960. 19 more wins and he ties the record for appearances on a gameshow. Some guy made 46 Tic-Tac-Toe shows in a row, but I don't remember the name.

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  141. Step Down Ken... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This man should Step Down from his reign at the sum of 1,000,000 dollars, then as his final words say, I'll see you next week regis, then, have it set up for him not even have to try out, because he's such a winner on jepordy, and have the stakes, if he wins, he gets the new crazy 10,000,000 dollars, and regis has to resign...

  142. Re:Did you 'loose' your dictionary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah. That one ALWAYS makes me cringe.

  143. Re:Great timing, it's on sale (slickdeals) today.. by Evangelion · · Score: 1


    The disney version isn't out yet.

    I'm assuming you mean the japanese version -- I'm pretty sure they threw the same English language dub that was on the Fox version onto it.

    I'll check when I get home.

  144. One Question by Pan+T.+Hose · · Score: 1

    The terms used in psychology are 'fluid intelligence' and 'crystallized intelligence'

    Please tell me, if I, as a computer software architect, have lots of fluid intelligence as well as crystallised intelligence, then how on Earth most of my projects end as a bloody vapourware?!

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  145. well, tell us how you did! by zogger · · Score: 1

    Like for real,I have 2 questions, how did you do prize-wise, and, more importantly, is Vanna hot in person? Had to be a cool fun experience no matter what.

    FWIW, I once had a string where I played along at home with jeopardy for roughly six weeks, nailed a pseudo win all but two nights. Of course I know that wouldn't translate to a similar deal live on stage, not for me anyway, I'd get flustered and get an attack of the nervous dumbs.... like Cliffy on Cheers did.

    Anyone else here ever play along for a long time and keep track of it?

    1. Re:well, tell us how you did! by wanerious · · Score: 1

      Back then, they didn't pay for the trip out (which was $497). I won $500, so I netted $3, which I impetuously blew on a burger. It was a good time, though. I really was underwhelmed by Vanna. I see many hotter people during the week --- it's just that they aren't marketed as well. There didn't seem to be much going on behind those eyes, though to be fair she's probably just on autopilot most of the time. Now Pat Sajak, I was struck by how tiny he is. I have this impression of people on TV as being literally larger-than-life, but he is a small man.

    2. Re:well, tell us how you did! by zogger · · Score: 1

      oh well, at least you got to play and have some fun. Makes for a good story later on.

      I had a similar but work related deal, an even split. Many years ago I go out to the cotton bowl in texas to work a rolling stones gig as a steel climber. I am promised my gas reimbursed, and the lodging, and etc, then the pay. I drive all the way out there, find out NO paid lodging or gas,(7 tanks one way in my van). Man was I steamed and I was STUCK, I had to work the gig just to make enough to get back home to atlanta. Cheapest dudes I ever met, no wonder they are millionaires. I worked one more teardown in new orleans because it was sorta on the way back and at least I made it home with a few bucks, but that was the nastiest hardest work for the cheapest pay I did since I was a kid working on farms piecework.