But how the heck do I excel in "Siebel admin" without having a job that specifically dealt with it? For five years! In fact, I've never, ever, seen an entry level Siebel postion.
You're saying, in essence "We want to hire away people from their current jobs."
I'm curious as to what you're going to do now. My suggestion would be to find good IT people and train them up.
Because I came from the Midwest. I graduated college and I had plenty of life experience plus I had been computer literate since my first CocoII. I ended up having to clean out ink jet printers to get by because I couldn't claim years of experience in X or bang out answers to technical quizzes.
And here sits this guy, whining about how hard it is to find good people, after we've just gotten out of a period that gave all the advantages to the employer.
Zero. Sympathy.
I ended up moving out of the Midwest because I figured if I was going to be barely getting by in a miserable job, I might as well do it somewhere where the scenery is nice.
I would leverage your CS skills with a non-CS degree. That way, you've got a biology degree and you rock with computers. That way, you've your computer history, and you're available for any jobs that require a biology degree, and you have a college degree.
I've interviewed some people from top colleges that just don't know their way around a business at all, and I have no desire to train them in exchange for a high 5 figure salary.
You don't see this as part of your problem? News Flash, every company wants the perfect employee to drop out of the sky into their laps and not have to spend a penny on training. So, your choices are:
1. Compete with every company in existence for these type of people. 2. Sit back and complain. 3. Adapt, gain the ability to find diamonds in the rough, prosper.
I'd love to find a resource for good employees, but I guess the answer is right there: good employees don't get fired.
You are using the most advanced communication tool in the history of mankind. On a forum dedicated to computer geeks. Posting about how hard it is to find workers. With just a few keystrokes you should have qualified workers raining down on you. Do you mention what IT skills you need? Do you say what state you're located? At this point, you seem to be the choke point in the system.
I'm not seeing how you can claim you're paying your people well. You pay minimum wage, plus a bonus of up to 80%. That's 9.25 an hour? They must work some serious overtime to get that high 5 figures.
What colleges teach real consulting skills, business sense and responsibility? There aren't any. That's the stuff you learn when out in the business world. College is the degree that gives proof that you can be taught. After that, the businesses have to go through the applicants, hire the one with the qualities it wants, and then teach them the business.
Is that such a horrible thing? Why do you refuse to teach people how to work in your company? Do you even have a mere internship program? If people don't know certain basic concepts, do you tell them to learn them and then come back, or do you have them blacklisted forever?
Really? So, I meet a really smart girl who doesn't have a BF or a GF, isn't interested in getting a BF or a GF, and your conclusion is that I'm the problem?
I bet that attitude gets you all sorts of chicks:
Girl "I'm not happy about us." You "Damn! You're messed up! What's your problem?"
No it won't. The reason mass transit saves resources is because it's not universially available and it's not as convienent as a car.
Imagine a system so large and sprawling and far reaching, that it can replace privately owned cars.
And it won't be that good, so areas that could have grown and thrived under the old "Road and Car" system won't even exist until someone builds a bus or train station there.
Oh, and another issue. Denver is currently having a mass transit strike. Wanna take the bus or the light rail? Too bad.
Frankly, I'm stunned that people think that placing your ability to go out and get food and work for a living solely in the hands of the government is a great idea. Not to mention, I'm shocked that you think that taking away my ability to drive is a right that you have. I'm hoping that you're not an American.
Destroyers are nice. But they can never do the job an Aircraft Carrier does.
The role of an AC is to be a mobile air base. I don't care what kind of wiz-bang weapons you put on boat. They'll never compare with the flexibility, range, cost, and accuracy of air power.
And that's just warfare, when the tsunami hit southern Asia, the US sent an aircraft carrier. It's nuclear power plant gave it the ability to produce an enormous amount of fresh water. It was large enough to coordinate relief efforts and house the planners. Helicopters for dropping off supplies and transporting relief workers, slow flights for inspecting the damage.
It's good to see France and England make an affordable aircraft carrier. But less personnel means less flexibility. You can't get those computers to stand in line filling up fresh water jugs.
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I love IT.
But how the heck do I excel in "Siebel admin" without having a job that specifically dealt with it? For five years! In fact, I've never, ever, seen an entry level Siebel postion.
You're saying, in essence "We want to hire away people from their current jobs."
I'm curious as to what you're going to do now. My suggestion would be to find good IT people and train them up.
Non spinning black holes?
Is there such a thing?
Last month. Nforce430 driver issue.
Would you really buy a blue ray player over HD? It's several hundred dollars more expensive at this point.
Even if it were more crackable, if you can afford 800$ for it, I don't think you'll really care.
It's not unreasonable that someone who created, owns, and manages a mature high tech company be able to communicate effectively.
Thanks for the link, if I hadn't posted in this thread, I would have modded you up.
Why am I taking this personally?
Because I came from the Midwest. I graduated college and I had plenty of life experience plus I had been computer literate since my first CocoII. I ended up having to clean out ink jet printers to get by because I couldn't claim years of experience in X or bang out answers to technical quizzes.
And here sits this guy, whining about how hard it is to find good people, after we've just gotten out of a period that gave all the advantages to the employer.
Zero. Sympathy.
I ended up moving out of the Midwest because I figured if I was going to be barely getting by in a miserable job, I might as well do it somewhere where the scenery is nice.
IBM, Novell and Sun are actually contributing to open source.
I haven't heard of Oracle doing anything like that. What have they contributed to? Have they changed the licence of anything they own to GPL?
If not, it doesn't sound good to me.
He doesn't say that, and in his reply, he didn't refute it.
Offhand I'd say you're wrong.
I bought this game in the past week, and I'd have to agree with you. I have no idea why the reviews for this are so high.
I had actually bought a new video card to play this, I'm planning on returning it and chalking up the money I spent on the game as a loss.
Oh hell no.
I would leverage your CS skills with a non-CS degree. That way, you've got a biology degree and you rock with computers. That way, you've your computer history, and you're available for any jobs that require a biology degree, and you have a college degree.
By doing pure CS you're limiting your prospects.
You don't see this as part of your problem? News Flash, every company wants the perfect employee to drop out of the sky into their laps and not have to spend a penny on training. So, your choices are:
1. Compete with every company in existence for these type of people.
2. Sit back and complain.
3. Adapt, gain the ability to find diamonds in the rough, prosper.
You are using the most advanced communication tool in the history of mankind. On a forum dedicated to computer geeks. Posting about how hard it is to find workers. With just a few keystrokes you should have qualified workers raining down on you. Do you mention what IT skills you need? Do you say what state you're located? At this point, you seem to be the choke point in the system.
I'm not seeing how you can claim you're paying your people well. You pay minimum wage, plus a bonus of up to 80%. That's 9.25 an hour? They must work some serious overtime to get that high 5 figures.
What colleges teach real consulting skills, business sense and responsibility? There aren't any. That's the stuff you learn when out in the business world. College is the degree that gives proof that you can be taught. After that, the businesses have to go through the applicants, hire the one with the qualities it wants, and then teach them the business.
Is that such a horrible thing? Why do you refuse to teach people how to work in your company? Do you even have a mere internship program? If people don't know certain basic concepts, do you tell them to learn them and then come back, or do you have them blacklisted forever?
Do you think your popularity might have had something to do with your work experence?
Some of us had to pick up dead useless jobs in IT. I'd like to get into DBA, but all, ALL of the job posts I've seen are for senior DBAs.
Except for the ones who want a senior DBA and then call it an entry level position.
Really? So, I meet a really smart girl who doesn't have a BF or a GF, isn't interested in getting a BF or a GF, and your conclusion is that I'm the problem?
I bet that attitude gets you all sorts of chicks:
Girl "I'm not happy about us."
You "Damn! You're messed up! What's your problem?"
Just out of curiousity, what did you think children did before the industrial revolution?
Oh yeah, that's on my list "Find and marry a female super genius."
I'd love to marry a smart girl, but frankly they've been absolute bitches or completely uninterested in any male or female companionship.
No it won't. The reason mass transit saves resources is because it's not universially available and it's not as convienent as a car.
Imagine a system so large and sprawling and far reaching, that it can replace privately owned cars.
And it won't be that good, so areas that could have grown and thrived under the old "Road and Car" system won't even exist until someone builds a bus or train station there.
Oh, and another issue. Denver is currently having a mass transit strike. Wanna take the bus or the light rail? Too bad.
Frankly, I'm stunned that people think that placing your ability to go out and get food and work for a living solely in the hands of the government is a great idea. Not to mention, I'm shocked that you think that taking away my ability to drive is a right that you have. I'm hoping that you're not an American.
Sure there is. It's "How much one person can afford."
That's a pretty strong limit. And unlike government/society imposed limits, very difficult to cheat or bribe your way around.
What new look?
I've noticed that there hasn't been any dupes today, keep up the good work Slashdot Editors!
I don't love Apple either. I think their computers are ok.
I like how they put thought and effort into designing/engineering them, but that's about it.
I was reading somewhere that getting 5k to 10k books sold is a *good* run for tech books.
After that, it's easy to do the math.
Is...that dry?
I mean, don't crabs live underwater? I suppose, technically, dead crabs don't live underwater. But they do sit there, you know, underwater.
Which is wet.
Destroyers are nice. But they can never do the job an Aircraft Carrier does.
The role of an AC is to be a mobile air base. I don't care what kind of wiz-bang weapons you put on boat. They'll never compare with the flexibility, range, cost, and accuracy of air power.
And that's just warfare, when the tsunami hit southern Asia, the US sent an aircraft carrier. It's nuclear power plant gave it the ability to produce an enormous amount of fresh water. It was large enough to coordinate relief efforts and house the planners. Helicopters for dropping off supplies and transporting relief workers, slow flights for inspecting the damage.
It's good to see France and England make an affordable aircraft carrier. But less personnel means less flexibility. You can't get those computers to stand in line filling up fresh water jugs.
"Please don't allow the media to lull you into this sense of complacency about monster weapons of any kind."
What makes you think it's "The media" that does this? What if we're not complacent?
What do you know of humanity?
Actually, with the research going into genetics and how the brain works, we will change the human. (No one cares about the scorpion or the frog.)
And I don't know what kind of humans you have around you, but here they're mostly ugly.