have a pay for review cost which creates a serious barrier for authors who are amateurs or are from schools with less funding
Why? The ones who would pay would be those who benefit: the subscribers who now don't have to do the labor of the editors and reviewers. What you'd have then is a research evaluation and review service, which is exactly what you describe. Why would the submitters pay at all?
IMO, what will actually happen is that a free/open system is that the loss of the imprimatur of journal publication will mean increased reliance on other ways to quickly evaluate works.
Great, so now we'll have research evaluation services instead of name brand journals. The difference will be that the evaluation service won't be able to claim copyright over what it's evaluating.
You know who's in a great position to become a research evaluation service? The existing name brand journals, that's who. Subscribers can use them if they want to, but they won't be forced to just to get access to the research.
My daughter is 19 months old. Almost as soon as she could walk at 13 months she was navigating the house on her own. She knew how to get back to her room from the kitchen, three doors, two rooms and a hallway away. Heck, she couldn't even open the doors on her own, but she sure could toddle over to them and squeak until we did it for her.:)
It's not like we taught her how to remember 2d layouts and navigate them. She just did it.
She's my first kid, and I'm learning more about intelligence and learning from watching her than I ever did in all of my AI classes.
Another example: she loves sitting in the driver's seat of our car, playing with the steering wheel and the keys. The first time she did it she was holding the keys in her left hand, but the ignition is on the right side of the steering column. She tried reaching over to put the keys in, but immediately realized she couldn't reach, so she switched the keys to her right hand. Do you know how difficult it would be to code up that kind of coordination and reasoning process in a robot? Frikkin' hard! But she just did it.
It's helped me realize just how much behavior and intelligence is hard coded in our brains. There's a lot that my wife and I are teaching my daughter, but there's no way we could have taught her everything she now knows, and I seriously doubt she's figured it all out by mimicry. (Especially the complex skills and problem solving behavior.) So the idea that a primate could have a "built in" mental mapping ability makes perfect sense now that I've seen such a thing in action.
In short, I have no desire to look at source code.
You learned the wrong lesson here. Either 1) the code and development environment were too complex for you to figure out, or 2) the project was set up badly and having the source wouldn't be helpful anyway.
If it was 1 then you learned something valuable about yourself: you can't take advantage of source availability anyway. When people huff about "I have much better things to do than X" it usually means "I can't do X but just don't want to admit it."
If it was 2 then you learned something valuable about the particular project, probably far faster than you could learn the same thing about a closed source product: it's a spaghetti coded tangled piece of crap. If you're having supreme difficulty making a trivial change, chances are other people will as well. (If #1 above doesn't apply.)
I'm guessing, from your blanket statements, that you're not willing to even try to learn either lesson.
If you want to use my service and my resources, then you don't get to dictate your terms to me.
Yes, actually, that's exactly what I get to do. I'm what's regularly referred to as a "customer." Maybe you're familiar with the concept. If not, I don't think you'll be in business for very long.
And counter analogies need not be exact, especially when there are lessons to be learned, and argument over trivial minutiae (i.e. "you didn't EXACTLY refute me!") are just a distraction.
I don't care if this particular move disproportionately affects minorities, if they are the ones disproportionately breaking the law.
I agree.
Also, whites shouldn't be business owners. The current economic crisis demonstrates that whites can't be responsible in their business dealings. I don't care if this particular move disproportionately affects whites, if they are the ones disproportionately wrecking the economy.
Working for free for a "decent chance" of it paying off "eventually" is not good business sense in any way, shape, or form.
Now there you've got it wrong. Whenever I've been in a position to judge potential job candidates, I've always put those who contributed to open source projects at the top of the heap. Heck, even if they've just answered questions for folks on mailing lists and message boards it's a plus. It shows intellectual involvement in their chosen field.
As long as they don't trash the place, most people don't care that someone is standing there, coming and going as they please...
But they would care if someone came in, stood at the window, and shot folks walking down the street, using their house as cover. That's basically what a DDoS attack does.
My paypal account was recently hacked, and I'm currently in the hole $1400, including bank overdraft fees. It wasn't just my account, too. Two other accounts were compromised (at least) because there were bogus transactions between my account and theirs. That tells me that more accounts were probably compromised, as this could have been a shotgun sequence of attacks.
Needless to say, my paypal account will be closed as soon as I'm refunded. I have no idea if my overfraft fees ($160 and counting) will ever be recovered.
So while it may save one type of business, it may put others on the street.
Shall I send you a buggy whip, sir?
The math is simple. Say your subscription to the NY Times costs $1 per day, $365 per year. That's a Kindle. Even if you replace them every two years, and pay retail for them (which are both unlikely) you're still coming out on top if you give them away.
I'm sorry, but we shouldn't support a business model if it's grossly inefficient, not in this day and age.
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Why? The ones who would pay would be those who benefit: the subscribers who now don't have to do the labor of the editors and reviewers. What you'd have then is a research evaluation and review service, which is exactly what you describe. Why would the submitters pay at all?
Great, so now we'll have research evaluation services instead of name brand journals. The difference will be that the evaluation service won't be able to claim copyright over what it's evaluating.
You know who's in a great position to become a research evaluation service? The existing name brand journals, that's who. Subscribers can use them if they want to, but they won't be forced to just to get access to the research.
Now they can do a mythbusters show on the broken window fallacy!
My daughter is 19 months old. Almost as soon as she could walk at 13 months she was navigating the house on her own. She knew how to get back to her room from the kitchen, three doors, two rooms and a hallway away. Heck, she couldn't even open the doors on her own, but she sure could toddle over to them and squeak until we did it for her. :)
It's not like we taught her how to remember 2d layouts and navigate them. She just did it.
She's my first kid, and I'm learning more about intelligence and learning from watching her than I ever did in all of my AI classes.
Another example: she loves sitting in the driver's seat of our car, playing with the steering wheel and the keys. The first time she did it she was holding the keys in her left hand, but the ignition is on the right side of the steering column. She tried reaching over to put the keys in, but immediately realized she couldn't reach, so she switched the keys to her right hand. Do you know how difficult it would be to code up that kind of coordination and reasoning process in a robot? Frikkin' hard! But she just did it.
It's helped me realize just how much behavior and intelligence is hard coded in our brains. There's a lot that my wife and I are teaching my daughter, but there's no way we could have taught her everything she now knows, and I seriously doubt she's figured it all out by mimicry. (Especially the complex skills and problem solving behavior.) So the idea that a primate could have a "built in" mental mapping ability makes perfect sense now that I've seen such a thing in action.
Good luck with that business model, d00d.
You learned the wrong lesson here. Either 1) the code and development environment were too complex for you to figure out, or 2) the project was set up badly and having the source wouldn't be helpful anyway.
If it was 1 then you learned something valuable about yourself: you can't take advantage of source availability anyway. When people huff about "I have much better things to do than X" it usually means "I can't do X but just don't want to admit it."
If it was 2 then you learned something valuable about the particular project, probably far faster than you could learn the same thing about a closed source product: it's a spaghetti coded tangled piece of crap. If you're having supreme difficulty making a trivial change, chances are other people will as well. (If #1 above doesn't apply.)
I'm guessing, from your blanket statements, that you're not willing to even try to learn either lesson.
Yes, actually, that's exactly what I get to do. I'm what's regularly referred to as a "customer." Maybe you're familiar with the concept. If not, I don't think you'll be in business for very long.
There are too many qualified applicants for every job these days. I seriously doubt you'll have any luck. Try again when the economy heats up again.
You'd rather anonymously kill thousands by starting a revolution than take personal responsibility for your actions?
Coward.
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.
And counter analogies need not be exact, especially when there are lessons to be learned, and argument over trivial minutiae (i.e. "you didn't EXACTLY refute me!") are just a distraction.
I agree.
Also, whites shouldn't be business owners. The current economic crisis demonstrates that whites can't be responsible in their business dealings. I don't care if this particular move disproportionately affects whites, if they are the ones disproportionately wrecking the economy.
Now there you've got it wrong. Whenever I've been in a position to judge potential job candidates, I've always put those who contributed to open source projects at the top of the heap. Heck, even if they've just answered questions for folks on mailing lists and message boards it's a plus. It shows intellectual involvement in their chosen field.
But they would care if someone came in, stood at the window, and shot folks walking down the street, using their house as cover. That's basically what a DDoS attack does.
"...allegedly said by George Orwell although there is no evidence that Orwell ever wrote or uttered either of these versions of this idea."
Congratulations, you've discovered hypocrisy.
Such a silly assertion, so easily refuted.
Roger Ebert
...is you can't talk about Sh.
Seriously.
Sh!
Watch out, I might have to go Greg Barton on your ass.
If an employer doesn't like what they find, I don't want to work for them.
I even have a "best way to google my name" section on my resume:
"Greg Barton" java -indonesia -kayak -mozart -football
i.e. I'm the Greg Barton who's a java programmer, but not the Indonesia expert, olympic kayaker, football coach, or Mozart scholar.
That actually helped me get in the door on my current job. :)
My paypal account was recently hacked, and I'm currently in the hole $1400, including bank overdraft fees. It wasn't just my account, too. Two other accounts were compromised (at least) because there were bogus transactions between my account and theirs. That tells me that more accounts were probably compromised, as this could have been a shotgun sequence of attacks.
Needless to say, my paypal account will be closed as soon as I'm refunded. I have no idea if my overfraft fees ($160 and counting) will ever be recovered.
...when they're constrained by reality.
Way to weasel out by blaming a conservative boogyman.
Step 1) identify problem ...
Step 2) blame union
Step 3)
Step 4) throw up hands and give up
Teacher's unions have absolutely zero input into curriculum. None.
Shall I send you a buggy whip, sir?
The math is simple. Say your subscription to the NY Times costs $1 per day, $365 per year. That's a Kindle. Even if you replace them every two years, and pay retail for them (which are both unlikely) you're still coming out on top if you give them away.
I'm sorry, but we shouldn't support a business model if it's grossly inefficient, not in this day and age.
I think that Republicans want the Fairness Doctrine back.