Yeah there is a line. Without going into legal details, basically a scientific discovery is a fact, a compilation of data like phone numbers or addresses or names are facts. Stock quotes are likely also not copyrightable.
Anything that has some creative process associated with it, is generally protected. The contents of Slashdot are protected, because (in theory) it took some creative sweat to create it. The supreme court actually talks about this "sweat test".:)
Simply compiling facts in an obvious format is not protected.
There are other tests involved, but that is the main one. Of course, since Slashdot mostly just posts other people's comments, unless there is some enforcable agreement for story posters to assign copyright to Slashdot, the actual story submission remains the property of the submitter. So in theory you could contact all the story submitters and ask permission to post the same stories on your site, and largely mirror Slashdot's content.
The way our compilation statutes are written, the copyright only extends to the original parts contributed by the editor of the compilation. Obvious arrangements are not copyrightable (such as arranging facts into database records, an obvious and noncreative use of the facts).
You have indeed touched upon an important point. Fair use isn't really the issue here. It can easily be argued that airline fares are facts. Facts can't be copyrighted.
Wow, that term gets thrown around a lot. It's really a very specific legal exception to copyright.
Sec. 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include -
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work. The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.
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So is this really a question involving fair use? Probably not. Your example is valid, and does involve fair use, but the example is clearly involving research and scholarship. You can't extend that example to the general case.
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Looks like they are planning to change it as a result of the attention, before the C+D start flying.
Yeah, but with stuff like RAM, it's a game of statistics. Someone who bought less than 10 sticks might have gotten "lucky", but they also may never stress their system hard enough to expose the RAM errors, or they might run something like Win95/98/ME that will happily keep running even if stuff is seriously wrong.
Case in point, I had a bad processor once on a Win 98 box. I never knew it until I tried to install Linux, and it would crash during the installation. So I thought it might just be bad drivers or something with Linux, I tried to install win2k, blue screen half way into the install.
In Win98, it worked pretty normally, except for some really weird problems I chalked up to DLL problems. (Things like programs crashing only when I clicked a certain option, repeatably).
Anyway, research is a great thing to do before any purchase, just beware anecdotal evidence.
Why would they want to do that? Do you mean boot sector? Hard disks usually aren't referred to as having tracks, only floppy disks. Besides, it would be extremely dangerous for a program to do something like that, they would risk making the system unbootable and a class action suit of unprecedented magnitude.
BTW- If you enable "virus protection" in your CMOS, that protects the boot sector from being written. I think this option is less common in more recent CMOS setups due to the decline of boot sector viruses.
Alan Cox is a Red Hat kernel engineer, yes. Arjan van de Ven is the Red Hat kernel maintainer.
I don't think you really know what you're talking about.
Maybe not, but I do know that a lot of the experimental patches that are in the AC kernel wind up into the RH kernel. I think it is safe to assume that Alan does play a part in determining which patches are "stable enough".
As someone who has had XMMS skip ever since I went to Red Hat 8 (and the newer versions of the lowlatency patches), I can agree with Linus. The screwed up thing is that even renicing X doesn't help, the kernel takes it upon itself to give it the priority back behind your back.
Red Hat- Because being a beta tester for kernels is cool!
(I love red hat, I just think AC takes some big risks with the RH kernel wrt controversial patches)
I agree completely. Just the other day I was looking at the source code for ttcp. The damn utility was written when I was being potty trained, and it's still very useful and relevant today. That's more than can be said of most technology.
When I look at projects like KDE, I really cringe. Everything is huge and buggy, based on the supposedly superior object oriented paradigm of C++, with a passion for being as much like MS software as possible.
, scanning the horizon for the plumes of rising missiles. Capable of autonomous operation.....
I can see it now in John Carmack's blog:
Attempted our first high altitude launch today. Everything was going fine, but then there was this bright purple flash and the rocket just exploded. Suspect the jumper cables we used to connect the battery to the control computer. More details once we look at the flight data we got.
A lot of bills die a quiet death. If the subcommittee fails to report a bill to full committee, then it's effectively dead for the year.
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Windows is a GUI OS. They have purposely crippled most non-GUI tools that one can use to administer the box. If there isn't a GUI way to do something, you can bet MS is assuming that most people won't want to do it.
So, once you get this sudoed cmd prompt, I guess you have to guess how to run what you need to run. Do most people know what the EXE file names are for most of the administration utilities?
What about programs like MS Photo Viewer that must be run as admin just to work correctly? Should every user drop to a command prompt, run this thing, and then run photoviewer? It's probably not in the PATH variable, so they have to type the fully qualified path, etc etc etc.
I think you see my point.
BTW- I bet if you took a survey of Windows Admins, 99% of them wouldn't know about runas.
Well, the more modern version of the old saw, a case of 250GB hard disks is 5TB, and the data could be gotten off them very quickly.
I used something similar to this method to send a TB of data to our corporate HQ. They needed a new NAS server anyway, so I preloaded it with the data we needed to get up there too. It would have taken months to transfer over the WAN.
Well, I don't know so much about state, but local government purchasing is usually determined by who gets the largest kickbacks, and who has the most influencial friends.
Well it's sorta like having a toll free phone number. If there was a virus that called random 1-800 numbers at a high rate of speed, who would be responsible for the charges?
Yeah, I've come to that conclusion too. I doesn't matter what you do as a job, it's never going to be completely enjoyable. As soon as you no longer have the option to turn it off and walk away, it becomes much less enjoyable.
The best you can hope for is having a job where you have some control over the direction of your projects, or at least over the specific implementation of the project. It also helps to do something that gives you some fulfillment.
After playing a lot of computer games, especially the same one over and over, I feel silly. It's especially worse when you use cheat codes, even after you "beat" the game, if it is that kind of game. You realize just how worthless the accomplishments that were so important to you just hours before really were.
Writing this on a circa 1992 20 inch monitor, I can say I probably agree with you. This monitor is a little whacky, getting a dried cap I think, but the brightness and focus is still great, which is something I can't say for a 1 year old CTX monitor.
My local Goodwill thrift store sells monitors for about $2 to $4 generally, no matter what the size or age. They are totally computer illiterate, so the pricing is pretty random. In any case, I can pretty much judge the quality of what is left of the monitor's life before ever turning it on.
I know that a CTX that is more than one year old will definitely suck, with bad focus and/or brightness, 100% of CTX monitors wear out very quickly. You can tweak the flyback, but it's just buying time, it will drift out of spec again within a month.
A MAG from the last several years will generally be a crapshoot, there is about a 50% chance of some problem.
Dell branded trinitron monitors are very high quality on average, and almost always still in very usable shape without any internal adjustments. KDS monitors are surprisingly usually pretty good as well, but not as reliably good as older Dell or Gateway branded trinitrons. Newer Dells are usually OK, but not always. Old IBM VGA monitors that come off PS/2 systems are fine for servers, and usually work well enough, at their limited res and refresh. Older Magnavoxes are a great find as well.
Come on! All recent Windows P2P software has come with distributed grid computing applications to collect marketing data. They are way behind the times here.
Slashdot Mirror
Yeah there is a line. Without going into legal details, basically a scientific discovery is a fact, a compilation of data like phone numbers or addresses or names are facts. Stock quotes are likely also not copyrightable.
:)
Anything that has some creative process associated with it, is generally protected. The contents of Slashdot are protected, because (in theory) it took some creative sweat to create it. The supreme court actually talks about this "sweat test".
Simply compiling facts in an obvious format is not protected.
There are other tests involved, but that is the main one. Of course, since Slashdot mostly just posts other people's comments, unless there is some enforcable agreement for story posters to assign copyright to Slashdot, the actual story submission remains the property of the submitter. So in theory you could contact all the story submitters and ask permission to post the same stories on your site, and largely mirror Slashdot's content.
quoting one airfare from a website falls under fare use,
:)
Indeed.
The way our compilation statutes are written, the copyright only extends to the original parts contributed by the editor of the compilation. Obvious arrangements are not copyrightable (such as arranging facts into database records, an obvious and noncreative use of the facts).
You have indeed touched upon an important point. Fair use isn't really the issue here. It can easily be argued that airline fares are facts. Facts can't be copyrighted.
Feist Publications, INC. v. Rural Tel. Service Co., 499 US 340 (1991)
Fair Use?
Wow, that term gets thrown around a lot. It's really a very specific legal exception to copyright.
Sec. 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include -
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work. The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.
----
So is this really a question involving fair use? Probably not. Your example is valid, and does involve fair use, but the example is clearly involving research and scholarship. You can't extend that example to the general case.
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Looks like they are planning to change it as a result of the attention, before the C+D start flying.
Yeah, but with stuff like RAM, it's a game of statistics. Someone who bought less than 10 sticks might have gotten "lucky", but they also may never stress their system hard enough to expose the RAM errors, or they might run something like Win95/98/ME that will happily keep running even if stuff is seriously wrong.
Case in point, I had a bad processor once on a Win 98 box. I never knew it until I tried to install Linux, and it would crash during the installation. So I thought it might just be bad drivers or something with Linux, I tried to install win2k, blue screen half way into the install.
In Win98, it worked pretty normally, except for some really weird problems I chalked up to DLL problems. (Things like programs crashing only when I clicked a certain option, repeatably).
Anyway, research is a great thing to do before any purchase, just beware anecdotal evidence.
might think it useful to write the boot track
Why would they want to do that? Do you mean boot sector? Hard disks usually aren't referred to as having tracks, only floppy disks. Besides, it would be extremely dangerous for a program to do something like that, they would risk making the system unbootable and a class action suit of unprecedented magnitude.
BTW- If you enable "virus protection" in your CMOS, that protects the boot sector from being written. I think this option is less common in more recent CMOS setups due to the decline of boot sector viruses.
dumb ass.
I prefer the one word version, dumbass. Thanks.
Alan Cox is a Red Hat kernel engineer, yes. Arjan van de Ven is the Red Hat kernel maintainer.
I don't think you really know what you're talking about.
Maybe not, but I do know that a lot of the experimental patches that are in the AC kernel wind up into the RH kernel. I think it is safe to assume that Alan does play a part in determining which patches are "stable enough".
Still doesn't stop other weasels from writing in the boot track.
WTF are you talking about?
As someone who has had XMMS skip ever since I went to Red Hat 8 (and the newer versions of the lowlatency patches), I can agree with Linus. The screwed up thing is that even renicing X doesn't help, the kernel takes it upon itself to give it the priority back behind your back.
Red Hat- Because being a beta tester for kernels is cool!
(I love red hat, I just think AC takes some big risks with the RH kernel wrt controversial patches)
We always had trouble with the network mode being extremely slow. It was IPX IIRC, and on our 10mbit hubbed LAN in college it was pretty bad.
I agree completely. Just the other day I was looking at the source code for ttcp. The damn utility was written when I was being potty trained, and it's still very useful and relevant today. That's more than can be said of most technology.
When I look at projects like KDE, I really cringe. Everything is huge and buggy, based on the supposedly superior object oriented paradigm of C++, with a passion for being as much like MS software as possible.
, scanning the horizon for the plumes of rising missiles. Capable of autonomous operation.....
I can see it now in John Carmack's blog:
Attempted our first high altitude launch today. Everything was going fine, but then there was this bright purple flash and the rocket just exploded. Suspect the jumper cables we used to connect the battery to the control computer. More details once we look at the flight data we got.
Yeah, that's what I meant. In any case, it was just an example. There are many poorly coded apps that will not run under anything but administrator.
A lot of bills die a quiet death. If the subcommittee fails to report a bill to full committee, then it's effectively dead for the year.
Windows is a GUI OS. They have purposely crippled most non-GUI tools that one can use to administer the box. If there isn't a GUI way to do something, you can bet MS is assuming that most people won't want to do it.
So, once you get this sudoed cmd prompt, I guess you have to guess how to run what you need to run. Do most people know what the EXE file names are for most of the administration utilities?
What about programs like MS Photo Viewer that must be run as admin just to work correctly? Should every user drop to a command prompt, run this thing, and then run photoviewer? It's probably not in the PATH variable, so they have to type the fully qualified path, etc etc etc.
I think you see my point.
BTW- I bet if you took a survey of Windows Admins, 99% of them wouldn't know about runas.
Well, the more modern version of the old saw, a case of 250GB hard disks is 5TB, and the data could be gotten off them very quickly.
I used something similar to this method to send a TB of data to our corporate HQ. They needed a new NAS server anyway, so I preloaded it with the data we needed to get up there too. It would have taken months to transfer over the WAN.
Well, I don't know so much about state, but local government purchasing is usually determined by who gets the largest kickbacks, and who has the most influencial friends.
Most state governments have open, fair bidding processes for new software, etc. made by a knowledgeable group of experts.
You're being facetious right?
Well it's sorta like having a toll free phone number. If there was a virus that called random 1-800 numbers at a high rate of speed, who would be responsible for the charges?
Yeah, I've come to that conclusion too. I doesn't matter what you do as a job, it's never going to be completely enjoyable. As soon as you no longer have the option to turn it off and walk away, it becomes much less enjoyable.
The best you can hope for is having a job where you have some control over the direction of your projects, or at least over the specific implementation of the project. It also helps to do something that gives you some fulfillment.
After playing a lot of computer games, especially the same one over and over, I feel silly. It's especially worse when you use cheat codes, even after you "beat" the game, if it is that kind of game. You realize just how worthless the accomplishments that were so important to you just hours before really were.
Writing this on a circa 1992 20 inch monitor, I can say I probably agree with you. This monitor is a little whacky, getting a dried cap I think, but the brightness and focus is still great, which is something I can't say for a 1 year old CTX monitor.
My local Goodwill thrift store sells monitors for about $2 to $4 generally, no matter what the size or age. They are totally computer illiterate, so the pricing is pretty random. In any case, I can pretty much judge the quality of what is left of the monitor's life before ever turning it on.
I know that a CTX that is more than one year old will definitely suck, with bad focus and/or brightness, 100% of CTX monitors wear out very quickly. You can tweak the flyback, but it's just buying time, it will drift out of spec again within a month.
A MAG from the last several years will generally be a crapshoot, there is about a 50% chance of some problem.
Dell branded trinitron monitors are very high quality on average, and almost always still in very usable shape without any internal adjustments. KDS monitors are surprisingly usually pretty good as well, but not as reliably good as older Dell or Gateway branded trinitrons. Newer Dells are usually OK, but not always. Old IBM VGA monitors that come off PS/2 systems are fine for servers, and usually work well enough, at their limited res and refresh. Older Magnavoxes are a great find as well.
Come on! All recent Windows P2P software has come with distributed grid computing applications to collect marketing data. They are way behind the times here.