Once I feel comfortable that he's not going to abuse this info, then I might whitelist him.
That isn't assessing risk on a case by case basis, its ASSUMING high risk and contravention and only later opening up.
Assessing risk on a case by case basis would mean you think both +ve and -ve and get to an answer. Saying NO! everytime just indicates that you are either paranoid or work in Microsoft desktop support.
Do you know your bank? I mean apart from the front-end office that takes your money?
Do you know VISA, AMEX, Mastercard or whatever credit card you use?
If you have the *ability* to do it, then somebody in your organization eventually will decide that it sounds like a good idea.
And this is paranoia on crack... it assumes that people will ALWAYS do the wrong thing and will ALWAYS try and screw you about, and that customer profiling NEVER results in a better service.
Feel happy in your paranoia, me I just assess risk on a site by site, and business by business basis.
During the '90s, however, computing platforms began to stabalize. Software was written that had a greater than 5 year life span
Err I'd say that less systems written in the 90s lasted over 5 years than the big old monoliths of mainframes and COBOL, which developed in the 70s and 80s gave us Y2K.
Long-life software wasn't new in the 90s, and the old stuff rarely runs on Unix or Windows....
Have you ever written a Java app for a mobile phone?
Only commercially and for presentations at conferences on enterprise mobility... why do you ask? I've even done Web Service clients in 30k on a mobile with fast response times.
So Gatesy is cosying up to the folks at HD DVD, all the more reason for the Slashdot crowd to get behind Blu-Ray who have chose the Java platform for their interactive content, and built ontop of the MHP standard.
What Gatesy really wants is people to choose HIS standard, rather than electing for something more open that lots of other companies support.
Or yours for beliving just because its written down it must be true.
We tolerate all kinds of voices, even obnoxious minorities.
What are the odds of a non-Christian, a woman, or someone not mega-rich being president of the united states? And the concept of "tolerance" is clearly plain rubbish. News and opinion on the main cable channels is so bland a without focus as to be ridiculous, and as for the papers... please the standard of journalism in most of the regional or nationals (USA Today anyone!) is so poor as to be insulting to the word. The papers consistently follow an "approved" line.
Sure there are "fringes" where things get said, but the importance is what most people hear, the mainstream is dull, lifeless and without intent, both in terms of TV and press.
And sure FOX news only gets "1/30 of network news", its still mainstream in comparison with the fringe elements.
Yet somehow your ignorance of our wealth is supposed to be a flaw of our system.
Then again it could be because I've actually LIVED and WORKED in the US for extended periods of time, and in several other countries.
Freedom of speech in the US is a fiction. While people can say anything they want at the edges, you'd better comply in the middle or you'll get kicked out.
Hell you can call for bombings on Paris on FOX, but hell don't dare go against the man... as Bill Mayer proved... getting himself relegated to a premium cable channel with less views than FOX in the process.
French TV sucks donkey balls, as does its media.... but in terms of political honesty and freedom, its only about as bad as the states.
Sorry to think this is nothing more than a headline, and another piece of evidence that the "War on Terror" is more about headlines than anything else. What ACTUALLY does this guy intent to do? "Securing borders", it might be slightly more effective to concentrate on intelligence programmes and having more arabic speakers than spending millions on an office that can do bugger all.
But then recruiting arabic speakers is hard, and never gets you the press coverage, its so much more important to be SEEN to be doing things than actually doing things.
The Free speech standard in the US is far beyond what is enjoyed anywhere in Europe.
REALLY? So in terms of journalistic integrity and investigation prowess, you think that the likes of FOX can compete with the BBC? That the WSJ and NYT are the equal of the Guardian, Independent or the Times?
And in ability to spread gossip/liable you SERIOUSLY think that the US press could go head to head with the UK tabloids.
Freedom of Speech is the biggest myth in the US, because no senior politician EVER has to go onto TV and answer to the people.
The US has two blokes in suits debating set questions from a media bloke.
The UK had questions direct from the electorate to the leaders.
Free speech on in the 1st ammendment means nothing, because the US has nothing in place to implement it.
For godsake you have worse propaganda than the French... the US has FOX News.
recognize that the rest of the world makes a valuable contribution to the internet, however: The United States developed the internet, with many large investments (DARPA etc.), and now we are expected to just give it up?
So the US keeps the internet but has to give up WWW, because that was European. The internet was created by the US... but made useful by Europe, and made mobile by Japan. The US did the tin, the rest of the world did the vision.
Aside from all the defense networks etc, we need to be able to keep tabs on extremist groups on the web, note that there is a widely circulating how to video about how to cause the most damage with a b#mb on a bus.
So you want to Censor? Who decides what is extremist? I'd vote for those nutters who are terrorising doctors and surgeries that do abortions, I'd also vote for organisations like FOX News being classified as extremist.
we still believe in freedom of speech.
Or not?
Sent any journalists to jail recently? Or listened to FOX News? Or heard a politician REALLY quizzed on their approach and views?
If we aren't going to eight-ball on these associative forward looking statements then clearly we've all got to just co-operatively compete in deciding on a common way forwards that brings all of the stakeholders on board, while enabling individuals to determine their own optimal path to success.
My other pet peeve is "solutions" as in "refuse organisation and disposal solutions" - Trash collection.
C was never a "nice" langauge, it was ugly, had massive problems around memory allocations, and the old unallocated pointer problems. It had unmangled names, so everything was in a global scope.
Then you had langauges like Smalltalk and Eiffel, elegant languages, simplicity, languages which gave control and power.
Then came C++, like C but improving on some things (name mangling), and adding the "power" of multiple inheritence. But worst it didn't solve the problems around memory allocation.
Languages like C# and Java have learnt from C++ and made it much easier to use (but not from Smalltalk see Ruby for evidence of that, and not Eiffel damn though it was good to develop it).
C++ was IMO a dreadful halfway house of a language that had most of the flaws of C and none of the advantages of Smalltalk/Eiffel.
Sometimes the best thing a creator of a language could do is declare it "dead" and get people to move away. Why do C++ if you can do Java/C#, why do Perl if you can do Ruby?
Until the legislation and tax rules are changed to make it un-economic to run a massive SUV. Sure these things are cleaner, but with Gas in the US being so much cheaper than pretty much all of the rest of the western world, and no additional taxes on large vehicles then what will be the incentive for the MAJORITY of Americans to do this?
Sure one or two tree-hugging people will go for this, but it won't actually matter until its cheaper to buy a Fuel Cell powered vehicle, and its ridiculously expensive to buy ridiculous cars like the Ford Excursion.
THe elite like globalization. But it hurts us. Any evidence on this? Free Trade and globalisation have certainly driven up the quality of life in pretty much all of the west, and is beginning to help elsewhere.
The elite like lots of immigration. But that hut rts us working American citizens.
Now this is just plain crap. You do know what Ellis Island was don't you? Immigration does NOT hurt working Americans, it HELPS by increasing the GDP of the country and aiding in growth, it also provides people for the jobs that help your quality of life but you would never do (Strawberry picking in CA anyone?).
Its amazing how Americans can say that Free Trade and Immigration are bad, when these are EXACTLY the things that made America great. Absolutely Amazing.
There will be not sodding logs, and actually taking down the server is the best way to make sure that the logs don't get deleted.
I've a damned sight more faith in the bloody mindedness of the Slashdot community if mobilised to take down these sites on a regular basis than I have in the "intelligence" agencies in tracking people down via the sites. There are probably more people who speak arabic reading Slashdot than there are terrorists in the world, lets fuck the bastards using the technology we know how.
And I speak as someone who massively opposes the death penality, the war in Iraq, Camp X-Ray and the rest, but who has ALWAYS thought that the best attack against these terrorists is to pull the rug out from their feet and then LAUGH as the fuckers fall over.
They use the internet... We KNOW the internet, lets get ourselves a server based lynch mob.
Google is great, google maps is superb, and I'm writing this using Firefox.
There is a website out there that has allegedly had a post from the people who commited the acts in London. Can we please not send them a great big Slashdot "Fuck you", someone please post the link so we can slashdot the box into oblivion, sure its only a small action... but as these fuckers use our home turf to communicate, can't we start pitching fastballs down low?
As someone who travelled through one of the stations (Edgeware Road) around 1 hour earlier can I just say the following (this is just to get it out of my system, it would be nice to think that anyone would read it)
This just sucks.
I've got home after several hours of walking, hiring a car and driving, I've sent my wife up to bed, and I've sat down watching the news I didn't see because I was in a meeting until 3pm, when we all found out what was going on. I've just drank a nice bottle of Australian Wine, and it still isn't enough for me to go to sleep.
I'm still going to go into work, we've lived over here with Catholic (IRA) terrorists, and now we've got Muslim Terrorists, and I'm personally completely fed up with having to "embrace all religions", lets ditch the fucking religions and just face up to the reality that
We are born.... We live.... We die....
And its up to each of us to cope with that and make the best life we can.
Who ever commited a terrorist attack in the name of atheism? What is the fucking difference between racism and religion anyway? Both have fuck all basis in reality, and both preach superiority of one "belief" or another.
Fuck the terrorists, I'm working as normal tomorrow. But most of all, fuck religion, its the 21st Century, lets face up to the reality that we are actually responsible and Allah, God or the great green goblin won't judge us when we are dead, its about how people judge us when we are alive.
I really hope someone reads this because it would make me feel better.
WTF? I haven't RTFB, but even I know that censorship in Nineteen Eighty-Four is not only known about but welcomed by the general populace
Errr actually no, the whole point is that the "Ministry of Truth" has convinced people that anything that they don't say isn't true. Hence the general populace most definately DOESN'T know there is censorship.
Big Brother is "removing the lies" and has convinced people this is what he is doing. This means that no-one knows there is censorship... there is only "Truth".
Now I only HAVE RTB, but so much better to argue from ignorance eh?
As long as we are all clear that this is why they are doing it, and American's stop complaining at home about Chinese people taking their jobs and being "unfair" by producing cheaper goods...
There's a difference between obeying the laws of a legitimate nation-state versus obeying the illegal orders of a superior officer.
As with the superior officer, the decision in this case is whether to go into China and supress free speech, or to try and expand your Chinese audience from outside.
Given the choice, Microsoft chose the option that "screw the first ammendment, we want cash".
Slashdot Mirror
Once I feel comfortable that he's not going to abuse this info, then I might whitelist him.
That isn't assessing risk on a case by case basis, its ASSUMING high risk and contravention and only later opening up.
Assessing risk on a case by case basis would mean you think both +ve and -ve and get to an answer. Saying NO! everytime just indicates that you are either paranoid or work in Microsoft desktop support.
Why should I? I don't know you
Do you know your bank? I mean apart from the front-end office that takes your money?
Do you know VISA, AMEX, Mastercard or whatever credit card you use?
If you have the *ability* to do it, then somebody in your organization eventually will decide that it sounds like a good idea.
And this is paranoia on crack... it assumes that people will ALWAYS do the wrong thing and will ALWAYS try and screw you about, and that customer profiling NEVER results in a better service.
Feel happy in your paranoia, me I just assess risk on a site by site, and business by business basis.
During the '90s, however, computing platforms began to stabalize. Software was written that had a greater than 5 year life span
Err I'd say that less systems written in the 90s lasted over 5 years than the big old monoliths of mainframes and COBOL, which developed in the 70s and 80s gave us Y2K.
Long-life software wasn't new in the 90s, and the old stuff rarely runs on Unix or Windows....
Microsoft taps both native-born talent and foreign talent
They've probably got a "one-tap" patent.
And yet for all this talent that MS taps, and all this research that MS does... they've STILL to come up with one major IT break-through.
remove all restrictions. Allow municipal wifi.
Remove all restrictions... and get the tax-payer to subsidise it...
AN interesting approach.
US... Health care for the rich... Wi-Fi for everyone.
Have you ever written a Java app for a mobile phone?
Only commercially and for presentations at conferences on enterprise mobility... why do you ask? I've even done Web Service clients in 30k on a mobile with fast response times.
I think 'slow.'
Have you evidence that you think quickly when I don't say Java?
If you think Java is slow, go and look at Sun's LookingGlass. Or download a 3D game on a decent mobile phone.
So Gatesy is cosying up to the folks at HD DVD, all the more reason for the Slashdot crowd to get behind Blu-Ray who have chose the Java platform for their interactive content, and built ontop of the MHP standard.
What Gatesy really wants is people to choose HIS standard, rather than electing for something more open that lots of other companies support.
That's your failure of imagination.
Or yours for beliving just because its written down it must be true.
We tolerate all kinds of voices, even obnoxious minorities.
What are the odds of a non-Christian, a woman, or someone not mega-rich being president of the united states? And the concept of "tolerance" is clearly plain rubbish. News and opinion on the main cable channels is so bland a without focus as to be ridiculous, and as for the papers... please the standard of journalism in most of the regional or nationals (USA Today anyone!) is so poor as to be insulting to the word. The papers consistently follow an "approved" line.
Sure there are "fringes" where things get said, but the importance is what most people hear, the mainstream is dull, lifeless and without intent, both in terms of TV and press.
And sure FOX news only gets "1/30 of network news", its still mainstream in comparison with the fringe elements.
Yet somehow your ignorance of our wealth is supposed to be a flaw of our system.
Then again it could be because I've actually LIVED and WORKED in the US for extended periods of time, and in several other countries.
Freedom of speech in the US is a fiction. While people can say anything they want at the edges, you'd better comply in the middle or you'll get kicked out.
Hell you can call for bombings on Paris on FOX, but hell don't dare go against the man... as Bill Mayer proved... getting himself relegated to a premium cable channel with less views than FOX in the process.
French TV sucks donkey balls, as does its media.... but in terms of political honesty and freedom, its only about as bad as the states.
Sorry to think this is nothing more than a headline, and another piece of evidence that the "War on Terror" is more about headlines than anything else. What ACTUALLY does this guy intent to do? "Securing borders", it might be slightly more effective to concentrate on intelligence programmes and having more arabic speakers than spending millions on an office that can do bugger all.
But then recruiting arabic speakers is hard, and never gets you the press coverage, its so much more important to be SEEN to be doing things than actually doing things.
The Free speech standard in the US is far beyond what is enjoyed anywhere in Europe.
REALLY? So in terms of journalistic integrity and investigation prowess, you think that the likes of FOX can compete with the BBC? That the WSJ and NYT are the equal of the Guardian, Independent or the Times?
And in ability to spread gossip/liable you SERIOUSLY think that the US press could go head to head with the UK tabloids.
Freedom of Speech is the biggest myth in the US, because no senior politician EVER has to go onto TV and answer to the people.
The US has two blokes in suits debating set questions from a media bloke.
The UK had questions direct from the electorate to the leaders.
Free speech on in the 1st ammendment means nothing, because the US has nothing in place to implement it.
For godsake you have worse propaganda than the French... the US has FOX News.
If, on the other hand, you're writing for games consoles, or embedded systems, or home PCs, you might not have that luxury
Umm you mean like Boeing... they used the Real-Time Specification for Java, on an embedded device.
You do know that Boeing make more than jumbos don't you?
Jave is slower than C++. It's not open for debate.
Ah but then I have only the benefit of experience rather than of narrow minded certainty.
recognize that the rest of the world makes a valuable contribution to the internet, however:
The United States developed the internet, with many large investments (DARPA etc.), and now we are expected to just give it up?
So the US keeps the internet but has to give up WWW, because that was European. The internet was created by the US... but made useful by Europe, and made mobile by Japan. The US did the tin, the rest of the world did the vision.
Aside from all the defense networks etc, we need to be able to keep tabs on extremist groups on the web, note that there is a widely circulating how to video about how to cause the most damage with a b#mb on a bus.
So you want to Censor? Who decides what is extremist? I'd vote for those nutters who are terrorising doctors and surgeries that do abortions, I'd also vote for organisations like FOX News being classified as extremist.
we still believe in freedom of speech.
Or not?
Sent any journalists to jail recently? Or listened to FOX News? Or heard a politician REALLY quizzed on their approach and views?
If we aren't going to eight-ball on these associative forward looking statements then clearly we've all got to just co-operatively compete in deciding on a common way forwards that brings all of the stakeholders on board, while enabling individuals to determine their own optimal path to success.
My other pet peeve is "solutions" as in "refuse organisation and disposal solutions" - Trash collection.
What I don't understand is this: if you're going to sacrifice performance then the world is your oyster
This is of course why the folks at Boeing are using Java as the "pilot" on the next generation of autonomous Real Time spyplanes.
Maybe in fact Java isn't actually that slow?
C was never a "nice" langauge, it was ugly, had massive problems around memory allocations, and the old unallocated pointer problems. It had unmangled names, so everything was in a global scope.
Then you had langauges like Smalltalk and Eiffel, elegant languages, simplicity, languages which gave control and power.
Then came C++, like C but improving on some things (name mangling), and adding the "power" of multiple inheritence. But worst it didn't solve the problems around memory allocation.
Languages like C# and Java have learnt from C++ and made it much easier to use (but not from Smalltalk see Ruby for evidence of that, and not Eiffel damn though it was good to develop it).
C++ was IMO a dreadful halfway house of a language that had most of the flaws of C and none of the advantages of Smalltalk/Eiffel.
Sometimes the best thing a creator of a language could do is declare it "dead" and get people to move away. Why do C++ if you can do Java/C#, why do Perl if you can do Ruby?
Until the legislation and tax rules are changed to make it un-economic to run a massive SUV. Sure these things are cleaner, but with Gas in the US being so much cheaper than pretty much all of the rest of the western world, and no additional taxes on large vehicles then what will be the incentive for the MAJORITY of Americans to do this?
Sure one or two tree-hugging people will go for this, but it won't actually matter until its cheaper to buy a Fuel Cell powered vehicle, and its ridiculously expensive to buy ridiculous cars like the Ford Excursion.
THe elite like globalization. But it hurts us.
Any evidence on this? Free Trade and globalisation have certainly driven up the quality of life in pretty much all of the west, and is beginning to help elsewhere.
The elite like lots of immigration. But that hut
rts us working American citizens.
Now this is just plain crap. You do know what Ellis Island was don't you? Immigration does NOT hurt working Americans, it HELPS by increasing the GDP of the country and aiding in growth, it also provides people for the jobs that help your quality of life but you would never do (Strawberry picking in CA anyone?).
Its amazing how Americans can say that Free Trade and Immigration are bad, when these are EXACTLY the things that made America great. Absolutely Amazing.
Can I just say how bloody FANTASTIC the rail service was today. Bloody more punctual than on a normal day!
Unfortunately I read this thing on Slashdot, hired a car and spend 3 hours in traffic as a result of a standard accident on the M4.
London and the people who live and work here have been fucking superb.
Its still fucking scary though.
There will be not sodding logs, and actually taking down the server is the best way to make sure that the logs don't get deleted.
I've a damned sight more faith in the bloody mindedness of the Slashdot community if mobilised to take down these sites on a regular basis than I have in the "intelligence" agencies in tracking people down via the sites. There are probably more people who speak arabic reading Slashdot than there are terrorists in the world, lets fuck the bastards using the technology we know how.
And I speak as someone who massively opposes the death penality, the war in Iraq, Camp X-Ray and the rest, but who has ALWAYS thought that the best attack against these terrorists is to pull the rug out from their feet and then LAUGH as the fuckers fall over.
They use the internet... We KNOW the internet, lets get ourselves a server based lynch mob.
Google is great, google maps is superb, and I'm writing this using Firefox.
There is a website out there that has allegedly had a post from the people who commited the acts in London. Can we please not send them a great big Slashdot "Fuck you", someone please post the link so we can slashdot the box into oblivion, sure its only a small action... but as these fuckers use our home turf to communicate, can't we start pitching fastballs down low?
As someone who travelled through one of the stations (Edgeware Road) around 1 hour earlier can I just say the following (this is just to get it out of my system, it would be nice to think that anyone would read it)
This just sucks.
I've got home after several hours of walking, hiring a car and driving, I've sent my wife up to bed, and I've sat down watching the news I didn't see because I was in a meeting until 3pm, when we all found out what was going on. I've just drank a nice bottle of Australian Wine, and it still isn't enough for me to go to sleep.
I'm still going to go into work, we've lived over here with Catholic (IRA) terrorists, and now we've got Muslim Terrorists, and I'm personally completely fed up with having to "embrace all religions", lets ditch the fucking religions and just face up to the reality that
We are born....
We live....
We die....
And its up to each of us to cope with that and make the best life we can.
Who ever commited a terrorist attack in the name of atheism? What is the fucking difference between racism and religion anyway? Both have fuck all basis in reality, and both preach superiority of one "belief" or another.
Fuck the terrorists, I'm working as normal tomorrow. But most of all, fuck religion, its the 21st Century, lets face up to the reality that we are actually responsible and Allah, God or the great green goblin won't judge us when we are dead, its about how people judge us when we are alive.
I really hope someone reads this because it would make me feel better.
WTF? I haven't RTFB, but even I know that censorship in Nineteen Eighty-Four is not only known about but welcomed by the general populace
Errr actually no, the whole point is that the "Ministry of Truth" has convinced people that anything that they don't say isn't true. Hence the general populace most definately DOESN'T know there is censorship.
Big Brother is "removing the lies" and has convinced people this is what he is doing. This means that no-one knows there is censorship... there is only "Truth".
Now I only HAVE RTB, but so much better to argue from ignorance eh?
As long as we are all clear that this is why they are doing it, and American's stop complaining at home about Chinese people taking their jobs and being "unfair" by producing cheaper goods...
You can't have your cake and eat it.
There's a difference between obeying the laws of a legitimate nation-state versus obeying the illegal orders of a superior officer.
As with the superior officer, the decision in this case is whether to go into China and supress free speech, or to try and expand your Chinese audience from outside.
Given the choice, Microsoft chose the option that "screw the first ammendment, we want cash".