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Attack of the Corporate Weasel Words

theodp writes "Does it bother you that churches have a Mission Statement touting their Core Values? That even the CIA has a Vision? In his book Death Sentences: How Clichés, Weasel Words and Management-Speak are Strangling Public Language and in this Newsweek interview, Australian author Don Watson argues it's time to protest the mind-numbing business jargon that infests our schools, churches and political speech. Examples that people have sent to him can be found on Watson's website."

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  1. A damaging energy exchange by professorhojo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    my favorite from TFB would have to be the "Damaging energy exchange". I think it means accident. Although the report in which it was included was at pains to point out that "accident" was an inappropriate term for a "damaging energy exchange", and that the British Medical Association Journal had banned the use of the word "accident" in its articles.' And of course, to "Add value", which is obviously 'to agree with one's boss.'

    1. Re:A damaging energy exchange by starm_ · · Score: 2, Informative

      Good example of clutter comes from President reagan's secretary of state who said: "at this juncture of maturization" to mean "now". And when an air force missile crashed, it "impacted with the ground prematurely".

      These examples are from _On Writing Well_ by William Zinsser, a book that should be read by everyone.

    2. Re:A damaging energy exchange by advocate_one · · Score: 1

      there is no such thing as an accident... there is always a reason for it occuring and therefore someone to hang the blame on.

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    3. Re:A damaging energy exchange by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

      That's nothing...

      From the example lists on Watson's site:

      How are you? I'm good

      At my workplace, people ask you 'how are you?' as you walk past them, but don't wait for you to answer.

      I call it "drive-by politeness".

    4. Re:A damaging energy exchange by 'nother+poster · · Score: 1

      About 10 years or so ago, a woman was killed when a meteor crashed through the roof of her home and struck her on the head. So, who is to blame for this incident? The woman? The home builder? Maybe the worlds space agencies. It's always the governments fault.

    5. Re:A damaging energy exchange by rah1420 · · Score: 1

      In addition to the Zinsser book, which I will secure in moments from my favorite online book store, I highly recommend "Simply Speaking: Will America Be the Death of English?" and "A Civil Tongue," both by Edwin Newman.

      Both also sadly out of print, but I did find a link here.

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    6. Re:A damaging energy exchange by MCraigW · · Score: 2, Funny
      who is to blame for this incident?

      Microsoft of course.

    7. Re:A damaging energy exchange by 'nother+poster · · Score: 1

      Right you are. My bad. :)

    8. Re:A damaging energy exchange by panaceaa · · Score: 1

      Similar thing for London's underground real-time tracker: they call the terrorist bombings last Thursday a "network emergency".

      But I think, in this case, obscuring the gory details is acceptable because they distract from the site's purpose of providing train scheduling information.

    9. Re:A damaging energy exchange by word+munger · · Score: 1

      Here in the South, people not only expect an answer to "how are you," but they actually expect an honest answer. I can't tell you how many times I've been at the post office and seen someone say "how are you," and then the other person replies, "well, my cat just died and I've got an awful case of the runs," or some such. It's really rather amazing to see. After 11 years, I still haven't gotten used to it.

    10. Re:A damaging energy exchange by advocate_one · · Score: 1

      ahh, but as you called it, it was an incident, not an accident... no-one was to blame, the woman was just extremely unlucky...

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    11. Re:A damaging energy exchange by mattyrobinson69 · · Score: 1

      in (at least north england) - the phrase "alrite?" is a perfectly acceptible replacement for "hello", and the usual response is "alrite?".

    12. Re:A damaging energy exchange by jo42 · · Score: 1

      Unanticipated cessation of motion not good enuff?

    13. Re:A damaging energy exchange by fingerfucker · · Score: 1

      "Damaging energy exchange". I think it means accident.

      It sounds more like "damaging energy exchange", at least in a corporate environment, would mean an interpersonal conflict that does not produce anything useful, and only results in two people no longer being able to get along well after shouting at each other in an obsessive explosion of emotion.

    14. Re:A damaging energy exchange by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      This is _very_ old news if you're Australian. I bought my girlfriend a copy of "Death Sentence" about two Christmases ago, and she bought me "Weasel Words" last birthday. I guess TFB is an omnibus, with some new words added.

      Still, it's worth the read. It's right up there with Orwell's essay on the way politicians corrupt language, "Politics and the English Language" I think, and it's also extremely funny, with gems like "compassionate conservatism" (needs no explanation) and "restatement of earnings" (fraud).

      In case you hadn't guessed, Watson's a bit of a lefty.

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    15. Re:A damaging energy exchange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > in (at least north england) - the phrase "alrite?" is a perfectly acceptible replacement for "hello"

      So Harry Potter is from North England? (He used the phrase/word near the end of a movie that I once saw about a stoned sorceror or something.)

    16. Re:A damaging energy exchange by 'nother+poster · · Score: 1

      No. By the definition in the dictionary, it was an accident.

  2. Obligatory by smittyoneeach · · Score: 3, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, all your Natalie Portman hot grittified, Netcraft BSD/Steven King obituaried, greased Yoda doll in mabootied, welcomed by our new GNAA-overlorded, imaginary beowulf cluster of Burma Shavin' weasel words are belong to us!

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    1. Re:Obligatory by metlin · · Score: 1

      ???? and profited by old Korean people!!!!1111!111one

    2. Re:Obligatory by rbarreira · · Score: 1

      Damn, you forgot the "Old Korea" one... Great job though!!

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  3. Dilbert by savagedome · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:Dilbert by superpulpsicle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      My sunday newspaper has Dilbert in the frontpage. I remember the days when a kid could wake up sunday morning and have only Garfield and other innocent comics.

      Now they are well trained politically, corporately for the next generation of work environment. My neighbors kids always do Dilbert skits. WTF is the world coming to when 10 year olds immitate managers and chief execs for fun?!

    2. Re:Dilbert by D-Cypell · · Score: 5, Funny

      WTF is the world coming to when 10 year olds immitate managers and chief execs for fun?!

      Funny... our chief exec does a pretty impressive immmitation of a 10 year old!

    3. Re:Dilbert by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1, Flamebait
      My sunday newspaper has Dilbert in the frontpage. I remember the days when a kid could wake up sunday morning and have only Garfield and other innocent comics.

      Nah, we also used to have that godawfulpiece of tripe "Doonesbury", though. At least Dilbert is funny. Trudeau descended into inanity after he used up his couple years worth of originality, then we had to put up with 25 years of trite, sumg liberalism. When I was a child I thought I just didn't get the jokes. Later I found out that it just wasn't funny. HAHAHA! THE PRESIDENT IS A FEATHER! LOL! Gimme a break....

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    4. Re:Dilbert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Funny... our chief exec does a pretty impressive immmitation of a 10 year old!

      That's no imitation.....

    5. Re:Dilbert by Dun+Malg · · Score: 3
      Nah, we also used to have that godawfulpiece of tripe "Doonesbury", though. At least Dilbert is funny. Trudeau descended into inanity after he used up his couple years worth of originality, then we had to put up with 25 years of trite, sumg liberalism. When I was a child I thought I just didn't get the jokes. Later I found out that it just wasn't funny. HAHAHA! THE PRESIDENT IS A FEATHER! LOL! Gimme a break....

      Flamebait? Maybe, but it's true. Look, I'm not some Republican drone drubbing Doonesbury because I'm some "god fearin', commie fightin' 'merkin". I'm married to a union organizer and former communist, fer cripes sake! My critique of Doonesbury is based on having read the early stuff. Go back and actually read his truly funny stuff from the Nixon era, the really sharp stuff that won him a pulitzer in '75. Up until the 1980 election he was still pretty incisive. It looks like the election of Reagan really soured him, though. After that he turned into just another venue for tiresome liberal tub-thumping-- a sort of Garfield-meets-the-DNC hybrid. I realize some people have special place in their heart for the strip, but the last 20 years of it were really a shadow of its former glory.

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    6. Re:Dilbert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Funny... our chief exec does a pretty impressive immmitation of a 10 year old!

      That's pretty mature for a chief executive.

    7. Re:Dilbert by smileyy · · Score: 2, Funny

      When you're right for pretty much an entire 25 years, its easy to get smug.

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    8. Re:Dilbert by dustmite · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You might find this an interesting read: The Trouble with Dilbert. A snippet:

      Dilbert cartoons calcify the essence of the repressive workplace. ...

      "Historically," Ralph Nader has pointed out, "you control people by lowering their expectations." This is true in the workplace and other spheres of life. The diminishing of what we could or should expect -- from ourselves, and each other, and institutions -- normalizes what we find unpleasant or worse. For corporate elites, that diminishment is a pleasure to behold. In Nader's words: "If our expectations are low, they have control."
    9. Re:Dilbert by snorklewacker · · Score: 1

      I'm a liberal that gets more leftist every year, but I actually agree. I think of Doonesbury as a sort of political "User Friendly". I might identify with some of the characters, and even analytically find the intended humor, but most of the time it just isn't funny.

      He can pull a funny one out once in a while. I think Jim Davis actually writes a funny Garfield every couple years too. Trudeau seems to get about double or even triple that rate. Guess as long as the checks from UFS keep coming in...

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    10. Re:Dilbert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Reference SGI, as recently posted on Slashdot, and now heading for bankrupty. After Ed McCracken ran Jim CLark out of the company (and to Netscape where he became a billionaire) McCracken called 800+ managers from all over the world, at great expense, for an encounter session. He handed out copies of "Built to Last" which is a leading huckster for corprate mission statements and lists of core values. Unfortunately this book analyzed successful companies and tried to make assertions about why they were successful that probably had nothing to do with why they were really successful. Companies are successful because they have good people, making good products, products people want to buy and then market and sell them well. Mission statements and value lists are tools for HR types to make themselves feel good, and like they have some useful contribution to make when they dont(they are just there to hire, fire, pay and coordinate benefits). Mission statements and have no real relation to the success of a company. Executives need to make sure their people are working on products that will sell and be profitable, nothing more. As a counter case companies with detestable core values, like Microsoft, Enron and Worldcom can do VERY well. Their only core value is do whatever it takes to destroy all competitors, and make as much money as possible. In the captalist world those are the core values that tend to count towards success.

      Anyway back to SGI, they got everyone together and they had HR "experts" pass out questionaires and produce graphs showing the psychological makeup of all the individuals and groups there, and to help them understand themselves and each other. They wrote core value lists and mission statements. They had encounter groups. They all went home and SGI continued to spiral in until it got where it is today. The managers I worked for completely changed overnight as the result of the offsite but NONE of the change was for the better. They mostly started hand wringing about producing schedules that had integrity, unfortunately they started producing schedules instead of products people wanted.

      In Jim Clark's book he recounts McCracken tried to use all the same techniques with the small group of SGI founders early in SGI's history. They were mostly engineers who ridiculed all the HR, psychology BS he was pushing. They ignored him, he was just a suit there to give them respectability with Wall Street, no talents anyone could every find. The company was wildly successful for years after, until Clark lost control of the company, McCracken siezed control and had his 800 manager meeting, and then they slid and slid and slid.

    11. Re:Dilbert by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      But isn't Wally the master of lowering expectations?

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    12. Re:Dilbert by sgt_doom · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Hey, please - no more insults about the commander-in-chief! While others served when drafted - he avoided service - first by going into that candy @$$ Texas Air Nat'l Guard, then be being AWOL for 2 years and skipping his flight physical - a courts-martial offense which should have precluded him from ever holding a security clearance ever again.

      Then there's his Uncle Dick Cheney - who avoided military service altogether but wants everyone to die in Iraq and elsewhere. What a guy! (OK - I realize this is slightly off topic....)

    13. Re:Dilbert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you sure (s)he was imitating?

    14. Re:Dilbert by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      When you're right for pretty much an entire 25 years, its easy to get smug.

      Yeah, but in a political comic that's a failing more than anything else. Smag ain't entertaining. I can get all the smug urban liberalism I want from everywhere else. Self-satisfied in-jokes make for poor entertainment.

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    15. Re:Dilbert by fbg111 · · Score: 1

      WTF is the world coming to when 10 year olds immitate managers and chief execs for fun?!

      Utopia? Erm, you wouldn't happen to be a manager or chief exec, would you? ;)

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    16. Re:Dilbert by wiremind · · Score: 1

      Ha ha ha, THAT is funny.

    17. Re:Dilbert by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      You have effectively de-synergized the Dilbert Server such that it cannot professionally continue its world-class mission to effectively produce cutting-edge results-oriented intellectual property or other enlightened output.

      In other words, you slashdotted the fucker

    18. Re:Dilbert by crucini · · Score: 1

      That page is such utter BS. The author is mad that Scott Adams doesn't harness his strip to promote some tired leftist ideology. Guess what? If he did, the strip would not be as popular. Dilbert is aimed at the educated middle-income knowledge worker. We don't generally share the views on that page. In fact, some of these leftist views have become part of the ridiculous PC fabric of the corporation. For example, the whiner mentions "sexual harrassment." I've seen huge fusses over sexual harrassment. I've seen good people fired for viewing porn after hours, under the guise of sexual harrassment. I've yet to see a valid case of sexual harrassment in the corporate world. Not saying it doesn't happen - just saying this whiner wants to move Dilbert further away from accurately depicting what I see.

      Look, whiner, make your own cartoon about your favorite leftist memes. Instead of the pointy haired boss, you can have a top-hatted capitalist. Don't be surprised when nobody reads your strip because you completely failed to pick up on what a modern office is like.

    19. Re:Dilbert by dustmite · · Score: 1

      Hmm, well, you are entitled to your own views, but I am the owner of a software business, and I can inform you "from the horse's mouth" that that "whiny leftist BS" happens to be an extremely accurate view of how the "people at the top" (myself and partners who also own software businesses) view (and manipulate) the people they hire. I'm not sitting here making myself out as some whiny victim of an oppressive corporate culture - on the contrary, I am one of those who employs people and uses them. I'm not a victim at all, I'm a beneficiary of the system, and part of the 'problem' I am talking about. Whether or not Scott Adams personally even thinks about such things is irrelevant - i.e. whether or not Dilbert is part of the cause or just a reflection of the system is irrelevant. I don't like the system, but I would rather be a beneficiary of it than a victim, and anyway, it's ultimately up to each individual to choose whether or not they want to open their eyes and see the world as it really is, or remain a child forever.

  4. your sig by mnemonic_ · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Is your sig supposed to look like spam?

  5. Critiques of the English language... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...carry more weight when the coming from authors residing in English-speaking countries, which we can all agree Australia is not.

    1. Re:Critiques of the English language... by halivar · · Score: 1

      ...carry more weight when the coming from authors residing in English-speaking countries, which we can all agree Australia is not.

      Huh? I though Australia, UK, Ireland, etc. all spoke American.

    2. Re:Critiques of the English language... by ravind · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I know you're a troll but it's not so much a critique of the English language, as it is of the modern culture of Bullshit. It reminds me of another book "Abuse of Language Abuse of Power" by Josef Pieper, and that was originally written in German.

      From Amazon's book description: "... reflects on the way language has been abused so that, instead of being a means of communicating the truth and entering more deeply into it, and of the acquisition of wisdom, it is being used to control people and manipulate them to achieve practical ends. Reality becomes intelligible through words. Man speaks so that through naming things, what is real may become intelligible. This mediating character of language, however, is being increasingly corrupted. Tyranny, propaganda, mass-media destroy and distort words. They offer us apparent realities whose fictive character threatens to become opaque."

    3. Re:Critiques of the English language... by SeekerDarksteel · · Score: 0

      I think we have some people who need to have their joke detectors fixed.

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    4. Re:Critiques of the English language... by rumblin'rabbit · · Score: 1
      Jokes seem to get increasingly modded down these days. I fell victim a few weeks ago. I think it's all the religious fundamentalists on /. - no sense of humour at all.

      Okay, I got one. Why didn't Jesus replace the stone from the tomb when he rose from the dead? Well, he was born in a barn.

      Hey, I didn't say I had a good one...

    5. Re:Critiques of the English language... by HermanAB · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is nothing modern about it. The original Bullshit How-to Guide is Aristotle's Poetics, written around 350BC. It describes in exquisite detail, how to create religious texts...

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    6. Re:Critiques of the English language... by Kazoo+the+Clown · · Score: 1

      It shouldn't be too surprising that things have gotten to this obfuscated extent. I remember seeing a story where various political organizations would tune the text of their political messages by test-selecting the specific verbage in order to appeal to the largest number of voters. The examples showed several announcers being tested on test groups, where in each case the announcers choice of terminology was slightly varied and the participants would signal whether or not they were favorably disposed to the message. Some groups have really gotten it down to a science-- by couching the message in just the right terms, you can get almost anyone to agree with it. Once elected, is they seem to then believe their own propaganda, as they consider it a 'mandate' that they implement their plan, never mind that the tuned marketspeak they used to describe it turns out to be a rather poor representation of what they actually aim to do...

    7. Re:Critiques of the English language... by Cally · · Score: 1
      Nice; but it made me go and pull a pile of old singles open unti I found this quotation (courtesy of the Manic Street Preachers):
      "Words themselves - the very material of our discourse - increasingly take on masks or disguises"

      -Dennis Potter
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  6. Lets brainstorm the alternatives by MosesJones · · Score: 4, Funny


    If we aren't going to eight-ball on these associative forward looking statements then clearly we've all got to just co-operatively compete in deciding on a common way forwards that brings all of the stakeholders on board, while enabling individuals to determine their own optimal path to success.

    My other pet peeve is "solutions" as in "refuse organisation and disposal solutions" - Trash collection.

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    1. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by ShortBeard · · Score: 3, Funny

      I see we are on the same page.

      There is a Palm app called Wank Words Bingo that can be used in corporate meetings. Here's a web based one you can print out or something.

    2. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by PianoComp81 · · Score: 1
      My other pet peeve is "solutions" as in "refuse organisation and disposal solutions" - Trash collection.
      When I was looking for jobs, any company that used "solutions" to describe what they did immediately was put in the "not even going to look at" pile.
    3. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by Mr_Silver · · Score: 1
      My other pet peeve is "solutions" as in "refuse organisation and disposal solutions" - Trash collection.

      Here on the UK trains, ticket inspectors have badges proclaiming their job title to be "revenue protection officers".

      I kid you not.

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    4. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by Blue-Footed+Boobie · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's ok. When I worked in a restaurant, I was a Hydro-Ceramic Technician. I was damned good, too!

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    5. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by Alizarin+Erythrosin · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the criticality of leveraging our synergies while realigning to the voice of the customer. We need to continue to drive accountability through an established quality stand-down protocol and go-forward plan.

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    6. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And like true political-correctness, your funny title obscures your real job. The first thing I thought of was "Toilet Fixer" when in fact you probably were a "Dish Washer".

      I worked at K-Mart in High School as an "Retail Inventory Dispersement Technician" or in English, a stock boy. Later I moved up to "Agricultural Supplement Distribution Engineer" and "Cash Transaction Processing Faciliator". In other words, I was a cashier in the Garden Shop and loaded top soil and cow manure into peoples' cars. It was a good job, and I didn't feel the need to make up silly titles for myself.

      I think the corporate blither-speak has come about for the same reason as other political correctness: People who are trying to sound intelligent without being intelligent and people who are trying to sound important without being important. There's a direct inverse correlation between this nonsense and plain old ordinary competence and common sense.

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    7. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by pete6677 · · Score: 1

      Accountability, the most dangerous corporate buzzword of all. It means blame. So when executives start talking about increased accountability, it means someone (usually several people) will be getting fired.

    8. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by grolschie · · Score: 1

      My favourite: Petroleum Transfer Technician AKA Gas Station Attendant.

    9. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by Blue-Footed+Boobie · · Score: 1
      Actually, I always put that on my Resume to get prospective employers to chuckle (when they realise I meant dish-washer).

      Surprisingly, it has been a great way to break the ice at an interview and get a dialog going.

      I really have no delusions of grandeur, in fact I am proud of my work history (half of which many kids my age would consider "crap" jobs). I think everyone should be required to work in a low-end job for a while (i.e. Restaurant/Kitchen, Gas Station, Retail Store, Grocery, etc). I think it gives people the proper perspective and empathy for that poor First-Day-Cashier or Lowly-Helpdesk-Operator who we might otherwise be quick to temper with.

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    10. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      Here on the UK trains, ticket inspectors have badges proclaiming their job title to be "revenue protection officers".

      Which is a completely honest description of their job and, actually, a less "friendly" description than ticket inspector which is more neutral in tone.

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    11. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by Alizarin+Erythrosin · · Score: 1

      Funny enough, we had a supervisor here who talked nothing but driving accountability. Yet, when you tried to hold somebody accountable for their mistake or lack of action on an issue (God, I sound like a manager without even trying) that seemed to disappear. Hold so-and-so accountable for us missing 20 unit shipments this month? Whatever do you mean? Almost like he didn't know the meaning of the word.

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    12. Re:Lets brainstorm the alternatives by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      I never have a problem with first-timers and other inexperienced people as long as they seem to care about what they are doing, or trying to do. Unfortunately, they often don't seem to care, and that's incredibly frustrating to the customer. It's easy to be patient if the person is clearly trying. It's not easy when they themselves seem unpatient, uncommunicative, uncaring or otherwise unpleasant.

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  7. this just in by cinnamon+colbert · · Score: 1

    Gaius Lucius Aetor, prefect of rome, decries the jargon laden language infesting the shools where young romans are taught. Say Lucius "It is time to strike back against this meaningless business jargon, which substitutes platitudes for thought"

    1. Re:this just in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Here is but one example of what Lucius was complaining about.

  8. General rule of thumb by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1

    Anything which says "Innovat" in some form is bullshit. It's the same toy as last week with more useless buttons.

    "We're working on a new phone, it'll be even better then the last one because it can send e-mails and surf the internet!" translates to "We're adding more things which cost a lot of money and won't improve your phone any".

    The old saying "If it's too good to be true, it probably is".

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    1. Re:General rule of thumb by The_Wilschon · · Score: 1

      Old sayings are too good to be true.

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      wait... not that kind of sig.
    2. Re:General rule of thumb by NonSequor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Quite frankly, I'd be satisfied if they said "We're working on a new phone, it'll be even better than the last one because it can send e-mails and surf the internet!" instead of "We are designing an nth generation wireless device which will empower users by facilitating multiple forms of digital communication."

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    3. Re:General rule of thumb by JonathanR · · Score: 1

      Digital communication is what you use when somebody cuts you off while driving.

  9. It has to happen by Vodak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We are in a culture where people need to specialize in order to succeed. Now there is only so much specialization that can be achieved. So of course buzz words are needed to justify the niche marketing of... business, goods, and even employment specialties.

    1. Re:It has to happen by ThosLives · · Score: 1
      Don't you have to define what you mean by "succeed" in order to make that statement meaningful?

      In any case, I would actually argue the opposite case: the only way to truly be successful is to be a generalist, or at the very least be extremely adaptable. Specialisation is usually the opposite of adaptability - excepting, of course, the odd situation where you specialise in adaptability.

      I think the problem with businesses (and humanity at large, actually) is they seem to think that they shouldn't have to change.

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    2. Re:It has to happen by brother_b · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Weasely buzzwords or manager-speak like the ones described here exist for one reason - to make middle management actually seem like they serve a purpose. They can send out memo after memo of absolutely no substance and still seem to be doing something useful.

    3. Re:It has to happen by sunhorse · · Score: 0

      Specialization is for insects.

      - Lazarus Long

      (Robert A. Heinlein)

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  10. It's annoying but... by Iriel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...the pointy haired boss from Dilbert is not just a myth. Without these words, that I find to be a detestable sore upon my tounge for each utterance, there are managers that would say "Ooh, that doesn't sound so good... why don't you uhh... perk it up a little bit....yeah." Basically we need to find the Lumbergh gene in the human race and erradicate it so we can stop making the stupid bosses happy, then we can dispose of these garbage words.

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    1. Re:It's annoying but... by Otter · · Score: 1
      Without these words, that I find to be a detestable sore upon my tounge for each utterance...

      Sorry, but I'm not sure you're in a position to cast the first stone here...

    2. Re:It's annoying but... by boisepunk · · Score: 1, Funny

      Go finish your TPS reports, and put the right cover sheet on them this time!

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    3. Re:It's annoying but... by minginqunt · · Score: 1

      It's not about genetics, it's about the Peter Principle, which is still very much alive and well in our Great Corporate Republics.

      Due to companies using promotion as a reward for competence, people tend to rise to their own level of incompetence and then stay there. Hence the profusion of PHBs.

      There is a corollary to that, the Dilbert Principle, which is the people who are incompetent *should be* promoted, to prevent them from directly affecting the customer's experience.

      These two should be considered the First Law of Management, and its most important corollary.

  11. Already Written by shaunj · · Score: 5, Informative

    Didn't Orwell write this long ago:

    http://www.resort.com/~prime8/Orwell/patee.html

    1. Re:Already Written by ffrinch · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, and he wrote it much, much better.

      I looked at Weasel Words in the bookshop when it first came out, and it's incredibly dull. Honestly, if someone needs an entire book on weasel words in order to recognize them, they're already a lost cause.

    2. Re:Already Written by Jumperalex · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes he did and he did it better. Everyone needs to read it, and reread it once a year.

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    3. Re:Already Written by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Interesting, thanks for the link. The article's date (1946) is noteworthy: two years before the publication of 1984.

    4. Re:Already Written by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Actually, the correct term is not "weasel words". It's "mustelid lexicography".

      Strunk and White's _Elements of Style_ is another great guide to writing. It lives its message: the book says to be short and to the point, and so the book is actually short and to the point.It goes from the basics like joining sentences to the principles of composition and clear writing. Anyone who wants to be a writer, whether as a journalist, novelist, or academic, needs to pick up a copy.

      I can't believe that almost got through senior year of college without ever having read this book, which is ridiculous- there's this idea in America that you don't need to learn the rules and basics of your craft anymore, whether its art or writing or whatever- well, that idea is bullshit. I'm all for breaking loose and breaking all the rules, but it helps to know the rules in the first place. And for every one Jack Kerouac who can write brilliant drug-fuelled free-form prose, there are a dozen people who really need to pick up Strunk and White, and Orwell's _Politics and the English Language_ Essay and learn to string two words together (I'm firmly in the second camp).

    5. Re:Already Written by kwoff · · Score: 1

      I don't think what's in that Orwell essay is the same, no. His essay mentions things like the sloppiness of language leading to sloppiness of thought, but he doesn't bring up things like the commercialization of our thoughts. The fourth point of his article is along the same lines, though. Also, the examples given by Orwell are very boring, whereas the ones given in the interview were amusing. I only found the last few paragraphs of Orwell's essay to be interesting. I wonder if those people gushing over how brilliantly Orwell's essay was written even bothered to read it.

    6. Re:Already Written by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1

      Seconded. Then again, I'm British, and was introduced to Strunk & White by a Canadian :)

      As for learning your craft, reminds me of that joke:

      There are very few people prepared to die for their art. But even fewer are prepared to learn to draw.
    7. Re:Already Written by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 1
      It's rather sad.

      I'm an Engineer, and I can't tell you how many Journalism and English majors I've had to introduce to "Elements of Style."

      Most don't bother because there's no Cliff's Notes or "For Dummies" version.

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    8. Re:Already Written by flyingsquid · · Score: 1
      There are very few people prepared to die for their art. But even fewer are prepared to learn to draw.

      That's a good one. I've had similar experiences in the arts- many art teachers just sort of let you run off and draw to your heart's content. That's great and you need some of that, but a couple years ago I finally went and took an elementary drawing class from one of the art schools in San Francisco and they taught me the basics of values, composition, highlights, focal points, how to cast shadows, positive/negative space and the incredible versatility of charcoal as a medium- I love computers and use them a lot in my art, but nothing beats charcoal for the ability to express yourself quickly, boldly, subtly.

      It helped my drawing immensely to understand those things, and it's also improved my appreciation of art- now instead of looking at Hokusai's Great Wave and saying "cool" I can say (at least in part) why it's so beautiful- it's use of positive and negative space, the dynamic lines and focal point, effective use of contrast and values, and soforth. I appreciate the painting even more, and when I draw or do an illustration, I can try to swipe a few of his tricks. It's a fine line, of course. On the one hand, you want to learn as much as you can from the people who have come before you. On the other hand, you want to be able to do new things and break the rules when you need to. New words aren't a bad thing, as long as they increase our ability to express ourselves, rather than obscure what we think and feel.

    9. Re:Already Written by Jack9 · · Score: 1

      The Elements of Style are still sold in the High School bookstore, where I first encountered it. Strunk and White is part of the American High School Honors English curriculum. Once you master the basics, you are exposed to the commentaries on style.

      Strunk and White was an American High School staple 15 years ago and still is today.

      P.S.
      How is the parent insightful when it doesnt contain any facts?

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    10. Re:Already Written by mikefe · · Score: 1

      I don't think what's in that Orwell essay is the same, no. His essay mentions things like the sloppiness of language leading to sloppiness of thought, but he doesn't bring up things like the commercialization of our thoughts.

      I think that if you look at commercialization of thoughts, you will see the basic sloppy thinking Orwell mentions in his essay.

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    11. Re:Already Written by Lord+Dimwit+Flathead · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's an online copy:

      The Elements of Style

    12. Re:Already Written by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1
      the book says to be short and to the point

      Anyone who would recommend this never got paid by the word!

      P.S. I am just kidding. I liked Strunk and adored White.

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    13. Re:Already Written by electroniceric · · Score: 1
      That is a fantastic essay. Just goes to show you that some people's insight is so penetrating that it's relevant for nearly a century.

      Absolutely the best of many pithy lines in that essay is:
      The Fascist octopus has sung its swan song.
      I can't even begin to imagine today's equivalent.

      I'd say an important reason for this is that so much of commerce has come to rely on language and writing skills, but there hasn't been a concomitant increase in zeal for learning those skills. If everyone read Orwell's essay and E.B. White's primers on clear writing on a regular basis, the world would be a much more well-spoken place.
    14. Re:Already Written by Thing+1 · · Score: 1
      What's really funny, as another poster pointed out, is that Strunk and White itself lives its message, which is to be concise and to-the-point.

      So Strunk and White is actually a Cliff's Note of its very own: for the English language.

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    15. Re:Already Written by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I have to say, having had the pleasure of reading both the original version written solely by William Strunk, Jr., and the revised, posthumous collaboration with E.B. White, that the former is vastly superior. White adds a great deal that, while not harmful, is certainly not as helpful as it ought to be considering the extent to which it fattened the notoriously thin first edition.

    16. Re:Already Written by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 1

      We really need a decent sarcasm tag on this board.

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  12. In case of Slashdotting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Weasel Words

    Productivity gains is where workers have to work longer hour for less money and produce more products/outcomes. Productivity gains has nothing to do with developing new technology or buying latest technology, machinery, hardware or even software, because industry cannot incur such costs to their bottom line. If industry did invest in such areas it would not achieve the mystical productivity gains.
    Choice - that which allows one to have more than one option if they have the financial resourses above and beyond one hundred thousand dollars. [from R.Conlon]

    Anytime soon 'If something is going to happen soon, it is imminent. But if it is likely to occur anytime that seems to me to be inexact. Anytime might mean soon but also might mean in a hundred years. So I declare "anytime soon" weasel wordish.' [from Peter Hair]

    Situated pedagogy 'I think that this means that how you teach depends a bit on where you teach. ' (From Dr Catherine Scott)

    Time Poor 'This from,Gardening Australia magazine, June 2005, "People these days are time poor..." The article was referring to selling your house and recommended that the garden was immaculate, for the potential purchaser's satisfaction.

    As if our parents and grandparents were not short of time after; milking the cow, lighting the lamps, washing by hand, chopping the wood, tending the livestock, walking rather than riding, writing error-free letters in long hand and queueing for work.

    Today's time poor must have such a dreadful rush; flicking a switch, ordering online, driving everywhere, relaxing at the cafe, turning on a machine, editing at leisure on the computer and enjoying the benefits of industrial awards that protect their working conditions.[from Max Shooter & Charlie Myres]

    Geo immobilised ' This morning on ABC 702, during a discussion about nuclear energy, a Greens MP (Ian Cohen?) used the term "Geo Immobilised" when describing the disposal of nuclear waste. What I think he meant to say was they bury it!' [from Murray Whitlocke-Jones] Does anyone have another interpretation? Email us if you do.

    Poor Customer Service ' When used by a customer, this really means "you aren't giving me back my money even though I have used your product and discovered I don't like it."This is different from "good customer service", used by the merchant, who has busted a gut to get the right product in the customer's hands so the merchant doesn't have to hear customer complaints who discovered that he doesn't like the customer that he insisted on buying over the merchant's objections (only applies to independent retailers - sorry) [From Gerry Lewarne]

    Outcome 'Heard on the ABC news. Describing the conclusion from a coronial inquest in regard to the death of a woman after an operation. It is concluded that the woman would have had a better outcome if something had been done sooner. She would have died later? Not as much? Or not at all? Presumably the latter.' [From Jeffrey McCubbery & Dr Chris Fyffe]

    'The outcome was very, very unfortunate for the people involved.' Former Immigration Minister Philip Ruddock on ABC radio when asked about the Cornelia Rau and Vivian Alvarez cases.

    Socialisation 'Used in the context of communicating information to people in order to get their feedback and/or approval. In my workplace, people say things like "we need to socialise this idea with the management team" - too bizarre. [from Vanessa Petterson]

    How are you? I'm good: ' .In response to the question:"How are you" ? "I'm good"." Does anyone say "I'm bad" ? When someone says that he or she is good, the person could be asked if he or she has been bad recently, or if he or she is simply making a statement about his/her morals.' [from Paul Grant, Ontario]

    For your convenience: 'Heard on a Virgin flight from Brisbane to Sydney: "for your convenience, the cabin will be pressurised". How about, "so you don't die, the cabin will be pressurised" or just, "the cabin will be

    1. Re:In case of Slashdotting by Shalda · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I like price point. I think that implies turning product pricing into a science. I was at Target the other day, and they had Bourne Identity for $13.76. Now I know there had to be dozens of focus groups to come up with that number. But the fact is, at $14.99 it would not have landed in my cart. Somehow, $13.76 sounded reasonable to me. That's a price point. It's also much more concise and precise than "how much I'm wiling to pay".

    2. Re:In case of Slashdotting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You paid $13.76 for Bourne Identity? Haven't you heard of BitTorrent?

    3. Re:In case of Slashdotting by daigu · · Score: 1

      It might have been even more simple than that. Some geek probably wrote a function that uses historical and real-time sales volumes for that type of product to figure out a number of price points where you reach maximum profit given the costs for the DVD, price and demand volume over time. They then scale the price based on release day to a certain calculated end-point - and the sales bin is the error level of the function.

    4. Re:In case of Slashdotting by generic-man · · Score: 1

      Most stores use the cents digits to indicate the status of an item. For example, .76 might have meant "featured in our ad" that week, .41 means "on clearance," .68 means "on sale," etc.

      The major numbers tend to determine price point. For example, Dell's new laser printer is the first at a sub-$100 price point.

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    5. Re:In case of Slashdotting by ravind · · Score: 1
      It's also much more concise and precise than "how much I'm wiling to pay".

      How much you're willing to pay is your "budget". A word that's even more concise than "price point".

      Unfortunately, a sales person doesn't want to ask you your budget, since the word has connotations of not only how much you are willing to spend, but how much you are able to spend. "Price point" sounds more like a choice. It's just a "point" you selected out of a whole range of prices on your whim.

    6. Re:In case of Slashdotting by crabpeople · · Score: 1

      I actually figured that out doing WoW pricing. You baught it because .76 is WAY cheaper than .67

      you see the mind looks at the first and processes 1 then 3 , (price is getting more expensive uhoh!) and then 7 and 6. Since the second number is lower than the first (6) your mind ssees the price as going down. I have sold many a +5 sword of pwning in the same fashion. It will always be cheaper to price something as 54 than 45. its the way the mind rounds cents i think. although IINAPS (pricing specialist)

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    7. Re:In case of Slashdotting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He may not have heard of BitTorrent, but you'll soon know why it's called Federal "pound me in the ass" Prison.

    8. Re:In case of Slashdotting by henni16 · · Score: 1

      Interestingly enough:
      your .76 and .67 example might work for me like you described,
      but .54 and .45 does not feel the same way.
      Maybe it's because of being used to round up for values >=5 and 5 feeling much greater than 4 because of that.

      Thinking about things like that; other important points (regarding to dollars, not cents) for me might be points like 12/13 and 17/18 as being on the border of "halving 5"
      - besides the more obvious "just below a multiple of 10 or 5".

  13. I personally like by edremy · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Exciting re-review and recommenting opportunity" for the /. editor's favorite activity.

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  14. You'll never get rid of it. by bigtallmofo · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Until you get rid of the "never say die" agendas that everyone has, you'll never get rid of this type of dialogue.

    They have their spin that their talking points are designed to get across, and so long as they are defending a position that benefits them (no matter how hypocritical or nonsensical), they're going to have to utilize such unnatural speech.

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    1. Re:You'll never get rid of it. by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 4, Interesting

      One of the best counters to this kind of nonsensical speech is the Socratic method of inquiry. Basically, you keep asking questions about what specifically they mean by a certain phrase, and then what they mean by the BS phrase they use to explain the first BS phrase, and so on. This gets rid of a lot of the nonsense speech assuming, of course, that the person speaking such nonsense is doing so out of habit. If the person you are addressing is BS'ing everything because it is to his advantage, then this will go on until the end of time (or at least until one of you gets tired). My step-father actually tried this once with a blowhard and just gave up at a certain point, because the blowhard appeared to have infinite energy for showing that he was "obviously correct".

    2. Re:You'll never get rid of it. by base_chakra · · Score: 1

      They have their spin that their talking points are designed to get across

      I submit that neologisms like "spin" and "talking points" are just as evil and damaging to our language and the cultures it informs.

    3. Re:You'll never get rid of it. by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, you'll never get rid of them, until you get rid of weasels. The human kind, I have no grudge against the kind that weigh less than 10 lbs.

    4. Re:You'll never get rid of it. by deimtee · · Score: 2, Funny

      MOD PARENT DOWN - he discriminates against fat weasels!!!

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      I'm guessing that wasn't on their radar screen...
    5. Re:You'll never get rid of it. by daigu · · Score: 1

      Ever try this with your boss? Let me know how it works out for you...

    6. Re:You'll never get rid of it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So act like a two year old and keep asking 'why? why? why?'

      *ducks*

      Seriously though, the issue usually is being polite and not just telling people 'that phrase is BS, say what you mean.' Playing dumb and repeatedly asking for the meaning is not very polite. If you have a point to make, state it, don't play games.

    7. Re:You'll never get rid of it. by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      And if what the person says has no meaning? Am I just supposed to be polite and act as though it has meaning?

    8. Re:You'll never get rid of it. by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1

      Obviously, you don't just ask "why?" or say "that phrase is BS". You ask a pertinent question with regard to the meaning of something. As I said above, you use the Socratic method, not mere babbling. Perhaps a link will help you to understand what I am talking about. As always, even with raving fools, use both politeness and caution. And, if they are too agressive, a 2x4 can help supplement the effects of a kind word.

    9. Re:You'll never get rid of it. by wiml · · Score: 1
      Yeah, I do this sometimes when somebody's giving an especially content-free report or something at a meeting. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't work; when it fails it usually fails in one of a few ways:
      • Other guy keeps responding with no information; everyone else is annoyed and just wants to move on so they can leave the meeting.
      • Other guy responds with actual information, but everyone else really just wants to get the meeting over with so they're annoyed at the slowdown.
      • I just look like a dumbass for not pretending to know what the other guy means by "some granular issues which we are pinging back over the table" or whatever.
      Despite its occasional failures, I think it's a worthwhile approach.
    10. Re:You'll never get rid of it. by BandwidthHog · · Score: 1

      I'm constantly wanting to stop people in traffic and use the Socratic Method to determine just what the hell they mean by the yellow ribbon "Support Out Troops" stickers they're sporting.

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  15. Misread by schleyfox · · Score: 5, Funny

    I misread the "Newsweek article" as the "Newspeak article" and I was all like woah, damn dyslexia.

  16. Apologists by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One time I spoke out very strongly about management speak. Synergy this, leverage that. Buzzword Bingo is not amusing when you see that someone can gain power by saying absolutely nothing at all.

    The counter argument was that it's the jargon of management. Just as programmers talk about arrays in a different sense than a layman, or maybe 'threading' for another example. Buzzwords isn't a problem, it's just the language of management.

    I think that's EXACTLY the problem. Managers don't talk to themselves. They lead with ideas, and understand the problems of others to help organize solutions. If nobody understands what the fuck they are saying, it's not management!

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    1. Re:Apologists by smittyoneeach · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Buzzword Bingo is not amusing when you see that someone can gain power by saying absolutely nothing at all.
      You don't get it, do you?
      Big organizations are about elevating policy, procedure and process to religious levels, at the expense of common sense, accomplishment, and leadership.
      It's about maintaining the problem at all costs, a forget about fixing it.
      One either becomes reconciled to it, or departs.
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      Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
    2. Re:Apologists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      So they "lead with ideas" and "understand the problems of others to help organize solutions"

      Are you in management?

    3. Re:Apologists by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

      No.

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    4. Re:Apologists by releppes · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, I don't think of it as a management problem. I think buzz words have become a cancer to language in general. It's not just mission statements, it's even in slang. Remember how things were "cool" then "groovy" or "totally awesome". Now you have that dumb ass Randy Jackson on American Idol who says every performance is "dog" or is it "dawg". Mission statements are nothing but corporate slang. It doesn't mean anything and to the non-management, they sound like idiots, but to themselves, they think that it all sounds good. Sorta like slang eh?

    5. Re:Apologists by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

      You're right. I don't get it. I'm just a peon programmer. I did read the Dilbert Principle book, but at the end I just put it down and said: "I don't get it." It was all just some drawings of a cute little dog, and words words words. What do they mean? Words words words. It confuses me.

      And when the words aren't in the dictionary, it makes me angry!

      Nah, I'm kidding. I get it, but it still pisses me off.

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    6. Re:Apologists by nickyj · · Score: 1

      Dole Office Clerk: Occupation?
      Comicus: Stand up philosopher.
      Dole Office Clerk: What?
      Comicus: Stand up philosopher. I coalesce the vapors of human existence into a viable and meaningful comprehension.
      Dole Office Clerk: Oh, a bullshit artist!

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    7. Re:Apologists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The counter argument was that it's the jargon of management. Just as programmers talk about arrays in a different sense than a layman, or maybe 'threading' for another example.

      It's not jargon because it doesn't mean anything. When the average PHB is talking about "leveraging synergy", it's linguistic white noise, they are simply padding out a sentence in the most impressive way they know how.

      I blame modern English classes. Requiring essays to be two thousand words long encourages crap like this when the topic at hand only needs five hundred.

    8. Re:Apologists by Boronx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The BBC had a debate between a pro ID card pol and an anti ID card pol. The pro guy was asked whether making everyone carry an ID card would restrict their liberties. He said of course it would, but the benefits outway the risks.

      I was shocked. That man wouldn't last two seconds in American politics. Every American knows that you deny any negative fact no matter how obvious. Weasel words are part of the same problem. An aversion in America from speaking the truth in public.

    9. Re:Apologists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...not amusing when you see that someone can gain power by saying absolutely nothing at all.

      Welcom to /.

      MOD ME UP SCOTTY!!!

    10. Re:Apologists by drsquare · · Score: 1

      It's not really jargon though. Computer jargon actually means something. When a computer programmers talks about 'smashing the stack', it actually refers to something happening. When an admin talks about 'patching the server', it's actually referring to something real.

      When a manager talks about synergy and leveraging and proactively actualising a unique global seven-habits-conforming paradigmic infrastructure solution, he's not actually saying anything, he's just trying to look clever and important without actually saying anything concrete so he can't be held accountable to anything.

    11. Re:Apologists by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      ...who says every performance is "dog" or is it "dawg".

      Nah. The performer is the "dawg" in this instance. The performance may be "cool" or just "a'ight" or he may be "feelin' ya" or "not feelin' ya" depending on whether it was "cool" or "a'ight".

      Actually, I'd probably prefer management talk like Randy Jackson so I wouldn't feel so self-conscious when I laugh out loud....

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    12. Re:Apologists by 'nother+poster · · Score: 1

      Dole Office Clerk: Did you bulshit this week?
      Comicus: Noooo.
      Dole Office Clerk: Did you try to bulshit this week.
      Comicus: Yeeessss.

    13. Re:Apologists by Tipa · · Score: 1

      At Digital Research, we used to keep a little checklist of John Rowley's favorite phrases that meant nothing. They'd just have to be in every speech.

      I wish I could remember them; but it's been twenty years.

      People aren't fooled by obfuscatory rhetoric!

    14. Re:Apologists by GPLDAN · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As an American in a political job, I can attest to this. The rule is, essentially, never cop to anything. Always, always spin it back at them. The metaphor is tennis. Admit no error, or fault, or weakness, or tradeoff. Doube speak is the order of the day.

      If you do speak honestly, you are marginalized. Instantly. Welcome to the machine.

    15. Re:Apologists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > An aversion in America from speaking the truth in
      > public

      And especially so when it comes to matters of race.

    16. Re:Apologists by wift · · Score: 1

      and welcome to the US.

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    17. Re:Apologists by wkitchen · · Score: 1

      Indeed. During the campaign leading up to the presidential election in 1984, Democratic candidate Walter Mondale said "Let's tell the truth. Mr. Reagan will raise taxes, and so will I. He won't tell you. I just did."

      It would, of course, be pretty silly to attribute his overwhelming loss to Reagan to this one comment. But that bit of honesty did seem to do him more harm than good.

    18. Re:Apologists by tez_h · · Score: 1
      Perhaps you are not a programmer. An N sized array of type T is (usually) a map from intergers from 0 to N-1 to values of type T (abstractly), or a contiguous allocation of N*sizeof(T) in some memory (concretely in, say, C). Almost all technical names have explicit, quantifiable definitions. They have meaning. WTF could 'leverging synergy' possibly mean, without or without context?

      Most technical jargon localises ideas and focuses attention on specific, understandable concepts. Management jargon has the opposite effect. It throws a warm, fuzzy blanket over things, so that they are indistinguishable, inscrutable. The fact that it is impossible to affirm or deny dense political or managerial doublespeak testifies to this. Enablement, process, solution, risk, quality. These things are often used out of place, without thought or distinction. And often they are strategic, customer-focused, empowering, just in case they weren't already all-encompassing.

      Clear language should allow you to point at an idea, grab it, and shake it around to see if it holds up or falls apart.

      Management speak enables the prioritisation of overall strategic considerations over internal-client processes, enabling corporations to increase effectiveness in holistic socioeconomic scenarios, creating value. In other words, it lets them get away with murder.

      -Tez

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    19. Re:Apologists by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 0, Troll

      Perhaps YOU are not a programmer.

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      Fascism trolls keeping me up every night. When I starts a preachin', he HITS ME WITH HIS REICH!
  17. Revenue Protection Officers by CmdrGravy · · Score: 1

    They have renamed Ticket Collectors at Birmingham New Street to "Revenue Protection Officers".

    Unfortunatley the new moniker doesn't seem to have empowered them or imbued them with any sense of purpose since they are too busy showing each other their new mobile phones to actually check anyones ticket.

    1. Re:Revenue Protection Officers by DaveCar · · Score: 1

      They have renamed Ticket Collectors at Birmingham New Street to "Revenue Protection Officers".

      If only they would consider employing some of those crazily named posts of "Driver" and "Engineer" so the bloody trains don't keep breaking down, and once the train is good to go there's actually someone to get it to its destination they might not need so many "Revenue Protection Officers" because people might feel like they are paying for a decent service and not be so tempted to fare-dodge.

    2. Re:Revenue Protection Officers by Ashtead · · Score: 1
      And in a similar vein, Qantas had renamed their purser to "Customer service representative". Now, to me that sounds like someone sitting behind a desk at the terminal rather than someone onboard a plane.

      But some marketer probably came up with the change; even though these customers are a captive audience by the time they meet this "representative".

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      SIGBUS @ NO-07.308
    3. Re:Revenue Protection Officers by mink · · Score: 1

      Over ten years ago Blockbuster Video in the USA called all non management staff CSRs.

      My favorite bit of corporate bullshit was the star maker internal training and corporate rah-rah program.

      There was a questionnaire we had to fill out and turn into our manager in each chapter (if we wanted to maybe move up to assistant manager).

      It had questions like "How do you view your fellow employees?"

      I answered that one with "As a stepping stone to my place in management.

      --
      Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
  18. Christianity reflects the culture it lives in by cuzality · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Christianity has always been expressed through the culture it lives in. It should be no suprise that some churches have visions and mission statements -- they want to succeed, and one model for success in America is the corporation.

    However, there is a backlash against this strict hierarchical structure, and as many traditional structures are being circumvented by new ways of doing things (blogs vs. old media, P2P vs. old music distribution, network vs. hierarchy, etc.), many churches will change to reflect this. This can already be seen in the Emergent conversation, and in the writings of Brian McLaren, Johnny Baker, Doug Pagitt, Tony Jones, and others...

    1. Re:Christianity reflects the culture it lives in by scottyokim · · Score: 2, Insightful

      cuzality, I had never heard of emergentvillage, so I went to the site - the first sentence starts: "Emergent is a growing generative friendship among missional Christian leaders ..." Yow. Generative?? Missional??

    2. Re:Christianity reflects the culture it lives in by cuzality · · Score: 1

      They suffer from a kind of buzzword craze of their own.

      Generative in the sense that it is growing. (Redundant?)

      Missional in that they are focused on the message as opposed to specific beliefs, i.e. the doctrinal disputes on non-essentials that have led to the denominational sectarianism (the fragmentation of the church). They seek to be more inclusive of "other" Christians, not rejecting them because of their differences, but welcoming them due to their shared heritage.

    3. Re:Christianity reflects the culture it lives in by symmet · · Score: 1

      I don't see anything wrong with mission statements. I think short little phrases that don't really mean anything are wrong and stupid, as this whole post has been talking about. But I think mission statements and core values are needed so that everyone knows what that church stands for. I think this helps prevent confusion about beliefs and values.

    4. Re:Christianity reflects the culture it lives in by ifwm · · Score: 1

      I think most people who attend a church find out pretty quickly what it stands for. That's what they do after all, preach.

      Mission staements are idiotic, meaningless ego exercises by middle managers with too much time on their hands.

    5. Re:Christianity reflects the culture it lives in by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      "Emergent is a growing generative friendship among missional Christian leaders ..."

      Their targetted audience apparently being middle-managers...

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      --

      As a matter of fact, I am a lawyer. But I play an actor on TV.

    6. Re:Christianity reflects the culture it lives in by symmet · · Score: 1

      So you are saying that you could go to a church for a couple Sundays and tell me everything that church stands for? You might be able to get a feel for it, but I would like to know what kind of group I am joining. There's plenty of churches and other organizations that look good at first glance.

      Besides that, its usually a good idea to make sure that everyone in the group is on the same page.

    7. Re:Christianity reflects the culture it lives in by ifwm · · Score: 1

      No, but since when do mission staements describe everything a company stands for?

      They don't. So, do you have any more incorrect, moronic observations, or will you just admit you are stupid?

    8. Re:Christianity reflects the culture it lives in by symmet · · Score: 1

      Sorry about that, I guess I assumed that we were talking about mission "staements" and core values together. I think that core values can help you see what an organization stands for.

      Here's a tip for getting ahead in life: Don't insult people when you are discussing something. Not only does trying to insult me make you look immature, it also severely detracts from your arguement. If you can't have a good debate without trying to insult me, I don't see a point in continuing this discussion.

  19. != accident. by oneiros27 · · Score: 2, Informative

    That sounds more like a crash to me -- and not all crashes are accidental.

    We can't exactly use the word collision, as not all collisions cause damage (purely elastic or purely inelastic collisions will transfer energy without permenant deformation of the bodies involved)

    I'm not sure if there are times when the word 'crash' denotes a situation that isn't a 'damaging energy exchange', but it seems better than 'accident', which has more to do with something not having been done intentionally, and very little to do with damage or energy exchange. (the context of its use may suggest that, but you haven't given its context).

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    1. Re:!= accident. by Xiaran · · Score: 4, Funny

      That sounds more like a crash to me -- and not all crashes are accidental.

      No. A crash would be an "unanticpated and sudden reduction in kinetic energy".

    2. Re:!= accident. by advocate_one · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've had two crashes where my kinetic energy was increased... both occasions I was rear ended by some idiot who wasn't paying attention. The phrase you're looking for would be an "unanticipated and sudden change in momentum"...

      --
      Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
    3. Re:!= accident. by WinDoze · · Score: 1

      "Unanticipated" would seem to imply to me that it was an accident. Doesn't just "Sudden change in momentum" conver the term "crash"?

    4. Re:!= accident. by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      I'd say it conveys "collision". "Crash" implies an accident whereas "collision" just implies that something impacted something else, causing a change in momentum.

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      How many people can read hex if only you and dead people can read hex?
    5. Re:!= accident. by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      Crash tests are accidental?

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      As a matter of fact, I am a lawyer. But I play an actor on TV.

    6. Re:!= accident. by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      It's testing a crash situation, but what actually happens is a planned collision.

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      How many people can read hex if only you and dead people can read hex?
    7. Re:!= accident. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Loss of cohesion, with a corresponding reduction in staffing." In other words, it blew up and killed some people.

    8. Re:!= accident. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Instantaneous Directional Momentum Accumulation

    9. Re:!= accident. by part_of_you · · Score: 1, Funny

      Fools! This is Slashdot. 'Crash' means "Sudden and unanticapated halt of computing ability"

    10. Re:!= accident. by cicho · · Score: 1

      Properly put, this is "small-timeframe momentum alteration". Or so.

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      "Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity." - Marshall McLuhan
    11. Re:!= accident. by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      I know people who have intentionally "crashed" their car. I'm not sure I know anyone who has planned a collision....

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      As a matter of fact, I am a lawyer. But I play an actor on TV.

    12. Re:!= accident. by m_chan · · Score: 1

      The term I like to use to describe "crashing" while riding a motorcylce or skiing:

      Acceleration poisoning.

    13. Re:!= accident. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kinetic Energy reduction is relative as to who is losing and who is gaining the KE. That is frame dependent. Energy/momentum _exchange_ is frame agnostic.

    14. Re:!= accident. by bigattichouse · · Score: 1

      sounds a bit like "lithobreaking" in reference to space probes and Mars.

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      meh
    15. Re:!= accident. by Xiaran · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Possibly. This thread is, however, an excellent case demonstrating why geeks dont rule the world. If we spent just half the time we spend having arguments about the exact definition of words or acusing each other of not being true anime fans cause we havent learnt Japanese to truely appriciate Neon Genesis we'd control everything.

    16. Re:!= accident. by Xeeble2 · · Score: 1

      The expression I've seen used is "handling event".

    17. Re:!= accident. by GraemeDonaldson · · Score: 1

      "Sudden change in momentum" could be me pulling away from traffic lights too.

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      I think, therefore I am. I think?
    18. Re:!= accident. by WinDoze · · Score: 1

      Sad but hilariously true!

  20. bullshit bingo by Zatic · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is a way to actually have fun with these nonsense terms:
    http://www.perkigoth.com/home/kermit/stuff/bullshi tbingo/

    I tried this myself in business seminars, definitly works! It's better to have humorous people around, though.

    1. Re:bullshit bingo by jcuervo · · Score: 1

      "Off-line" is a buzzword?

      --
      Assume I was drunk when I posted this.
  21. If they are honest... by Alex+P+Keaton+in+da · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The worst mission statements are the ones that are just so disconnected from reality- The ones that were dreamed up in a boardroom where no one had ever seem the manufacturimg facility. I bought a pair jeans and on the tag it said that "we strive to create the best most durable blah blah blah" and when I put them on, a button fell off....
    How about some honest ones- "We seek to have a complete monopoly on unreliable operating systems..."
    I love the ones that have nothing to do with the product... "Our mascara comany seeks to delight our customers, create world peace, and give out random orgasms...."

    --
    And All I Ask is a Tall Ship And a Star to Steer Her By
    1. Re:If they are honest... by NardofDoom · · Score: 1

      All mission statements from for-profit companies should read thusly: "We exist to make a profit. Even legally, if at all possible."

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      You have two hands and one brain, so always code twice as much as you think!
  22. It's All About Communication by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have a small business. I am realizing very quickly that success is often determined by your ability to communicate. (I'm also married, and this rule applies equally well to that.)

    If you can't clearly communicate to a client or customer, you can find yourself losing business very quickly. If the client thinks they're getting one thing and you deliver another, that's usually a breakdown on your part. The same goes for clients that don't understand what is required of them.

    Clear and concise gets the job done, makes everyone more comfortable, and takes less time than thick marketing copy or 'vision statements.'

    In my still-idealistic view of the world, that's how it works. I realize that some companies rely on obfuscation and meaningless text to confuse their customers into thinking they're getting one thing when the proposal says another. Or to lock people into contracts that they didn't understand (ie, zero interest for 12 months).

    But those aren't honest. And they don't encourage repeat business, referrals, or customer satisfaction. So in my mind, they don't promote success.

    1. Re:It's All About Communication by justforaday · · Score: 1

      Ahhh, but isn't the point of all the marketspeak to make it so that neither the customer nor the vendor even know what the expectations are?

      --
      I'll turn into a supernova and burn up everything. Well I'll turn into a black little hole and you'll turn into string.
    2. Re:It's All About Communication by CmdrGravy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Almost, I believe it's to ensure that the customer can read into it what he likes but would never be able to prove categorically what it was he's bought in a court of law.

    3. Re:It's All About Communication by EvilBudMan · · Score: 1

      --Clear and concise gets the job done, makes everyone more comfortable, and takes less time than thick marketing copy or 'vision statements.'--

      Maybe as far as the customer is concerned this might be true, but with employees the mushroom treatment (keep you in the dark and feed you bullshit) seems to work best for management.

      Divide and conquer is another one. No they don't want to explain in simple terms what is really going on because you wouldn't like that.

  23. This sounds like a job for.... by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 5, Funny
    --
    [b.belong('us') for b in bases if b.owner() == 'you']
    1. Re:This sounds like a job for.... by limabone · · Score: 1

      That is awesome! It's probably ancient but since I have never seen it before it's brand new to me. I think this should be pasted on every cubicle on the planet.

      The scary thing is how much this sounds like many of the meetings I go to.

  24. We Have to Think Outside the Box, People by nganju · · Score: 2, Funny


    If we're going to tackle this corporate jargon problem, team, we're going to have to leverage our core competencies. We're going have to be goal-oriented and results-driven.

    I say we kick off our anti-buzzword action plan by hitting the ground running. Now, who's going to own the mid-level implementation plan for this milestone?

    P.S. Props to Action Item, Superhero for inspiration.

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    There are 2 kinds of people in this world. Those that can keep their train of thought,
  25. My Favorites by amightywind · · Score: 1
    Here are some corporate weasel words that I have come across that are not listed at the website.
    • Propel - "The new organizational structure will propel unprecedented gains in EBITDA performance."
    • Service Velocity - "We must seek to accellerate our service velcity to meet our customer's expectations."
    • Market Discontinuity - "The market discontinuities that now exist offer a unique opportunity for our company to increase marketshare and gain a lasting advantage over our competitors."
    • Delight the Customer - "We should not only satisfy, but seek to delight the customer."
    --
    an ill wind that blows no good
    1. Re:My Favorites by pianophile · · Score: 1

      "We should not only satisfy, but seek to delight the customer."

      Oh, man, this has got to be straight out of that horrible corporate fad, TQM. We used to have a VP at the company I work for that would, upon meeting customers, ask them, "How may I delight you?" What a walking embarrassment!

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      'Your brain is God.' -- Dr. Timothy Leary
    2. Re:My Favorites by amightywind · · Score: 1

      Oh, man, this has got to be straight out of that horrible corporate fad, TQM. We used to have a VP at the company I work for that would, upon meeting customers, ask them, "How may I delight you?" What a walking embarrassment!

      These were just a few examples among hundreds! It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise normal people transform into communal corporate organisms who spew twaddle like this as a profession. The worst among them are inevitably the most famous. Look some of the stuff written by Jack Welch, Bill Gates, or Jeff Bezos. People like this do our performance ratings and control our careers! Gives me the willies.

      --
      an ill wind that blows no good
    3. Re:My Favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We used to have a VP at the company I work for that would, upon meeting customers, ask them, "How may I delight you?"

      How many customers replied
      "bend over" ?

  26. 100% Flamebait Guaranteed by bleaknik · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm looking at writing a mission statement for my own company, and the more I research it the more I appreciate existing ones.

    It does baffle me that churches have so much money, and I am a little afraid that God (TM) didn't intend it to be quite that way. I'm sorry (I have agnostic tendencies), if God exists I surely don't think (s)he intended for any church to be large enough to be considered a business. In fact it disgusts me that here in the United States many of the local religious figureheads drive nicer cars, own bigger houses, and smoke fatter cigars than myself. Men of God? Nay! Men of themselves.

    That said, I appreciate that (privately owned) schools have missions statements, and I appreciate that they are trying to serve their target. I think that every state-funded school in the state of (insert your region) should share a common mission statement. I think its also in their best interest to fulfill their goals as described by that mission statement.

    It has gotten out of hand. There was a time when Not-for-profit really meant Not-for-profit, and I see these "charitable" organizations seeming to crawl forward with beady-green-dollar-sign-eyes.

    Anyway. Mission statements are a wonderful invention and critical in this world known as capitalism. Bloody hell, though... why does the local minister drive a Lexus? /shrug.

    --
    Deja Vu
    n. 1. The sensation that you've read this very article before.
    1. Re:100% Flamebait Guaranteed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work for a Church owned Non Profit company.
      I find it strange that we have cash reserves to operate for 12 months with 0 income.

    2. Re:100% Flamebait Guaranteed by 3nd32 · · Score: 1

      As a Preacher's Kid, I can address this to some extent. Churches usually pay their ministers the average income of their memberships. So, if you live in a wealthy area, the ministers are going to be comparably well-off. This would be my guess as to why the local minister drives a Lexus. Or there may be a member of the congregation who left their estate to the church when they died, leaving a rather nice car behind. The church decided it would be more cost-effective to provide the minister with the car than to sell it.

      As far as churches having so much money... that varies greatly with the church. The church I currently attend is renting a building, and consistently running in the red. Churches with more stable finances usually find things to do with that money, whether it's supporting missions or stocking the local food bank. Very few are simply hoarding money.

    3. Re:100% Flamebait Guaranteed by bleaknik · · Score: 1

      Ahh. The Preacher's Kid. Yeah, one of my best friends is a Preacher's Kid. Her dad is a wonderful man, and I think he actually would deserve a Lexus for the work he does... Except he drives a Pinto. No. I'm serious. He drives a Pinto. In fact, him and I both ponder how the minister of a more different church can afford such a car... Considering the average income of a household in my small town is still less than the average cost of a 2005 Lexus (yeah, its brand new). It boggles my mind, anyway...

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      Deja Vu
      n. 1. The sensation that you've read this very article before.
    4. Re:100% Flamebait Guaranteed by Glendale2x · · Score: 1

      It depends on the area. On the other end of the valley up here in Reno near the Mt. Rose area, there's properties up there in the $8 million and up range (saw an ad for a house listed at $11 million the other day; holy crap, $11 million?) and a lot of people with more money than they know what to do with. This is especially true of any property that can view Lake Tahoe. If your congregation can all afford those kind of houses with millions to spare, it's possible the clergy of the church in that area could afford a Lexus... or two.

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      this is my sig
    5. Re:100% Flamebait Guaranteed by mink · · Score: 1

      But should they?
      I mean, shouldn't they be living a life of example, based on the teachings they preach?
      What of humility and a humble life?
      I'm not saying they have to be destitute, or wanting, but what in the world requires said preacher to own a luxury car rather then a economy or regular sedan?

      --
      Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
  27. Bullshit Bingo! by ras_b · · Score: 5, Funny

    this reminds me of something i saw when i used to work in corporate america. once before a company wide meeting, a friend/colleague handed me a sheet of paper with a grid of boxes on it- like a bingo board, but each box had a 'buzzword' in it- synergy, proactive, win-win, B2B, e-commerce, e-solutions, etc., etc. the goal was to mark off a word every time you heard it in a meeting. if you crossed off all the words in one row, column, or diagonally, you stand up and yell "BULLSHIT!". freakin' hilarious.

    1. Re:Bullshit Bingo! by telstar · · Score: 1

      "the goal was to mark off a word every time you heard it in a meeting. if you crossed off all the words in one row, column, or diagonally, you stand up and yell "BULLSHIT!".

      They let you clean out your own desk, or did they take care of that for you?

    2. Re:Bullshit Bingo! by ras_b · · Score: 1

      i cleaned out my own desk while they watched to make sure i didn't steal anything.

    3. Re:Bullshit Bingo! by SilentSheep · · Score: 2, Funny
      http://www.perkigoth.com/home/kermit/stuff/bullshi tbingo/

      I think this is what you are talking about!! Very funny!

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    4. Re:Bullshit Bingo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks Scott Adams. Cause that's your name right? Or did you just do it because you read it in "Dilbert and the Way of the Weasel"?

    5. Re:Bullshit Bingo! by Ginnungagap42 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Shortly after being bought out by General Dynamics, a lot of us oldtimers at my former company played this frequently. The winning managerial statement was: "We must leverage our synergies..." Several people jumped up and yelled "Bullshit!" It was (to quote the parent) freakinng hilarious...

    6. Re:Bullshit Bingo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also a Dilbertism.

    7. Re:Bullshit Bingo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit!

    8. Re:Bullshit Bingo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As we're spouting hoary old internet cliches, always remember: "Capitalization is the difference between saying 'I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse' and 'i helped my uncle jack off a horse'."

      (bash.org is my source but I imagine it's older than that.)

    9. Re:Bullshit Bingo! by fade-in · · Score: 1
      I used to work as a Customer Care Specialist (read: warm body in a call-center) for a major cell phone company. We were inundated with this crap on a daily-basis.

      My favorite squares on the BS-Bingo board:

      value-added
      product (used in lieu of service)
      maximize
      customer care
      empathy (as if call-center people are paid to care)
      resell value (read: talk people out of switching carriers by reminding them of the useless features they never used anyway)
      provisioning time (read: you just bought your phone, but it won't be recognized by the network for up to 12 hours!)

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      This sig is inappropriate in a post-9/11 world.
  28. Don Watson needs to... by Kohath · · Score: 0

    Don Watson needs to chillax.

  29. Long live Buzzwords death to English by CorporateWhoremone · · Score: 0

    These phrases though lacking any real content do give the illusion that you know what you are talking about and is about the only way I got through college. If you have any doubts about this, check this freakishly well "buzzed" proposal generator. http://www.monzy.org/surg/

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    You make fun of France once and your Karma is never the same...
  30. BS On Bullsh*t by bubbaD · · Score: 1

    It sounds like this guy is trying to jump on Prof Frankfurt's bandwagon (On Bullshit.) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0691 122946/qid=1121094466/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_ur_1/102-0 573459-7462505?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
    http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/chapters/s7929.ht ml
    The problem, as Mr Frankfurt seems well aware of in his 80 page book, is that people can endlessly bullshit about how much bullshit there is out in the world. Don Watson also seems aware of this and intends on capitalizing on it.

    1. Re:BS On Bullsh*t by cyril3 · · Score: 1
      Except for the fact that Watsons book was published in 2004 in Australia as a follow up to an earlier book [2003] on the Decay Of Public Language, primarily in Australia but more generally throughout the world. So I could ask who jumps on whose bandwagon given that Frankfurt's book is a 2005 publication.

      In any case, Watson as an Australian writes for us and then the world. US examples of bullshit are so numerous that, outside the US we can easily lapse into thinking that it is only the US that uses bullshit as it's main rhetorical tool. Watson shows Australians how it creeps into Australian public discourse.

      I hope that's OK with you guys.

  31. Leveraging Your Assets by Ranger · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What a curios title, How Clichés, Weasel Words and Management-Speak are Strangling Public Language by Don "The Australian" Watson.

    Choking the chicken of discontent, are we? Well, if you've ever worked in a call center, weasel words (lies) and management speak (bullshit) are survival tools. Leverage them wisely.

    --
    What would you hear if you crossed an Australian with a Canadian? G'day, eh. (OK. You think of a better question to make the answer funny!)

    --
    "You'll get nothing, and you'll like it!"
    1. Re:Leveraging Your Assets by dustmite · · Score: 1

      Well, if you've ever worked in a call center, weasel words (lies) and management speak (bullshit) are survival tools.

      Do you mean when dealing with clients or management? If you mean the former, I've got news for you, the majority of customers don't actually fall for weasel-speak. You may think they do because it often makes them "go away", but most of those customers are actually just interpreting your "strategy" as a refusal to address the problem, going away unhappy, and telling everyone they know that your clients product sucks.

    2. Re:Leveraging Your Assets by Ranger · · Score: 1

      Do you mean when dealing with clients or management?

      Actually, both. I don't work in a call center any more. Thank God!

      because it often makes them "go away"

      Bingo!

      a refusal to address the problem

      Refusal doesn't enter into it. As soon as you discover that you can't actually fix the problem, you do what's necessary to get rid of the unhappy customer. You've obviously mistaken me for someone who cared. Go work in a call center and then you'll understand what a shithole they are. With any luck, the unhappy customer will take their business elsewhere and the call center would go out of business. Who wants to listen to people bitch eight hours a day?

      I've got a real job now. Thank God! I'm recovering my moral center. I now have the resources and training to do my job. I can actually fix problems. And I care about my customers and management. I supposed the lesson I learned in the call center is that survival outweighs morality. Not a lesson that I wanted to learn.

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      "You'll get nothing, and you'll like it!"
    3. Re:Leveraging Your Assets by dustmite · · Score: 1

      You've obviously mistaken me for someone who cared

      Yes, clearly :)

      I'm quite sure working in a call center sucks ass, but I've worked shitty jobs too, and I always did the best I could anyway, and I expect others to do the same (especially if I'm a customer who has to use the call center).

  32. How about this one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Weapons of Mass Destruction Program Related Activities.

    From our self-described "CEO President"

  33. Churches and missions... by petaflop · · Score: 1

    To be fair, churches have been using the word 'mission' (hence missionary) for centuries, and business picked it up and turned it into a weasel word later. But 'core values' are a fair cop.

  34. George Carlin by Control-Z · · Score: 1


    Wow, just like George Carlin. Only not funny!

  35. Job Titles by RiotNrrd · · Score: 1

    At my last job we did not have a receptionist - we had a Director of First Impressions.

    btw: I'm looking for a job as a Chief Software Imagineer - anyone hiring?

    1. Re:Job Titles by Xiaran · · Score: 1

      I'm looking for a job as a Chief Software Imagineer - anyone hiring?

      Do you have a degree in fungeneering?

    2. Re:Job Titles by Mark+of+THE+CITY · · Score: 1

      Disney?

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      The clearance system sounds logical. It is not. It is completely arbitrary. -- John Bolton
    3. Re:Job Titles by RiotNrrd · · Score: 1

      "Fungeneering" - my new favorite word!

      "I'm a fungeneer!"

    4. Re:Job Titles by Xiaran · · Score: 1

      To give credit where credit is due. It comes from the second episode of Futurama.

  36. Outsource This! by minginqunt · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's all well and good, as we geeks love to feel superior to management-sorts and snicker at them at every available opportunity.

    However, this man comes across as something of a luddite. Much of his opposition to certain phrases is decidedly ludden.

    What's wrong with "email" as a noun? "E-mail Message" is long and pointless, when Huffman coding suggest it can be shortened to "E-mail" or just "Mail".

    In addition to that opposition, he seems to have a limited grasp of Idiom, Synecdoche, Zeugma and other long-established English literary traditions.

    What's wrong with calling an iPod "sexy"? How can one meaningfully be opposed to "poor customer service"? "Reject"? "Requeue"?

    He sounds like a lunatic complaining at any kind of neologism or idiom he didn't have a hand in. Like people who complain about the change in the meaning of the words "gay" and "pussy".

    I'm tempted to say "grow up!" at him.

    Also, a Detention Centre isn't a prison. "Ramp up" is an idiom. It doesn't simply mean "to increase". It means to start something small, and the increase gradually to full capacity. Perhaps we should stay that instead?

    "To drill down" is a well-established idiom. What's the problem?

    It's bonkers. This man seems to have an absurd overreaction to many perfectly innocuous words and phrases. Whether born out of Luddism or some paranoid objection to all neologisms isn't clear, but I'd suggest that this man be ignored as a quack.

    1. Re:Outsource This! by CmdrGravy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you had read the article properly you would have noticed that all the examples you are quoting are examples he has received from contributors, the opinions on the phrases are also the contributors opinions.

      I agree with you that some of those points are uneccesarily nitpicking and anal but I have to say that Detention Centre is certainly a good description of a prison but sort of implies that it's somewhere you can drop in and out of at will when you wish to be detained.

    2. Re:Outsource This! by corngrower · · Score: 1
      "To drill down" is a well-established idiom.

      ... in the oil exploration industry.

    3. Re:Outsource This! by ab762 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Notice that you're commenting on contributed items (comments), not the FA itself. Turns out I know the guy who complained about "email message" - he might indeed be a bit of a Luddite, or at least more pedantic than I.

      (A pedant is anyone who cares about at least one more detail than I do. Anyone who cares about one less detail than I do is a lazy slob, of course.)

    4. Re:Outsource This! by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      As other's have pointed out, these are contributions from others. The same chap that had problems with 'email' also says 'presently' always mean 'shortly' and should never be used as a synonym for 'currently'. Considering that the word has been used continuously to mean 'at the present time' since the 15th century, one has to wonder when it might be considered proper usage.

      --

      --

      As a matter of fact, I am a lawyer. But I play an actor on TV.

    5. Re:Outsource This! by Charles+W+Griswold · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not to pick nits, but "detention centre", "prison" (Cambridge definition), "jail" (or "gaol"), and "penitentary" all have somewhat different meanings.

      --
      "Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber" -- Plato
    6. Re:Outsource This! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We have this sales guy at work, his so funny,

      When refering to send an email he says he'll 'ping you'

      and talks about 'not having the bandwidth' when his refering to not enough resources.

      Everyone cringes when he says them as well!

    7. Re:Outsource This! by CmdrGravy · · Score: 1

      Indeed and the entry for Detention Centre reads - "a type of prison" which only confirms my suspicions.

    8. Re:Outsource This! by MCraigW · · Score: 1
      "Presently" has two meanings: now and soon. Because of this, its use can lead to ambiguity.

      Strunk and White recommend limiting the use of presently to when you mean in a short while.

      Then there is this from The Columbia Guide to Standard American English.

    9. Re:Outsource This! by cicho · · Score: 1

      "To drill down" is a well-established idiom. What's the problem?

      Every drilled up? Or sideways?

      --
      "Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity." - Marshall McLuhan
    10. Re:Outsource This! by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      I have to side with your link. Context should help render the appropriate meaning. There are numbers of words that have multiple meanings and we manage to use them in ways that convey which meaning is intended. I don't see why this one should be an exception. I rarely hear 'presently' spoken with Strunk and White's preferred usage, and although I see it in print more often I still don't see it as often as the alternate usage.

      --

      --

      As a matter of fact, I am a lawyer. But I play an actor on TV.

    11. Re:Outsource This! by ccandreva · · Score: 1

      Quite often.

      Drilling sideways is easy. When drilling up, make sure to wear safety glasses or the sawdust will fall in your eyes.

    12. Re:Outsource This! by Lord+Dimwit+Flathead · · Score: 1

      Yup. She loved it.

    13. Re:Outsource This! by klept · · Score: 1

      Does anyone know what requeue means? I am not joking, I can not find a definetion for this word anywhere.

    14. Re:Outsource This! by deanoaz · · Score: 1

      >What's wrong with calling an iPod "sexy"?

      A lot. For something to really be sexy it has to be capable of sexual reproduction. How many sexes does the iPod come in?

      There is also a long established usage of the word 'sexy' to refer to inantimate objects (Such as clothing or jewelry) that are designed to attract attention to the wearer from the opposite sex.

      What I object to is the more recent usage of the word 'sexy' to apply to any damned thing, like a car, motorcycle, gun, or electronic gadget just because it appears stylish or smartly made.

      What will be next, 'pornographic' as an adjective for anything that invokes a great deal of interest and study?

      Protect these important words and preserve their meanings for future generations. Just say no to 'sexy iPods'.

      "I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters."

      - Frank Lloyd Wright

      --
      If 'the people' in Amendment 2 are 'the state' then Amendments 1, 2, 4, 9, and 10 benefit the state, not you.
    15. Re:Outsource This! by Urusai · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sounds like he needs to leverage his core competencies to promulgate synergistic market-oriented strategies.

    16. Re:Outsource This! by UserGoogol · · Score: 1

      To queue means to place something in line, so requeue means to do it again. The power of prefixes.

      --
      "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." -- Hanlon's Razor
    17. Re:Outsource This! by godders · · Score: 1

      Grrrr.. Buzzwords piss me right off. "Drill down" and "Ramp up" are both examples of phrases that are used merely as placeholders for things the speaker hasn't actually got around to thinking about, but still wants to give the impression they're in charge and know what they're doing. "Can we make this a link so they can drill down?".. Drill down to what?! you haven't thought of that, have you? you just expect me to do all your fucking work for you, don't you? Use your god damn brain, man. "Guys we need to ramp up production" translates almost exactly to "SCHNELL!" ..and they both make my blood boil. Don't even start me on "AJAX", *shudder*. Use your brain and think you workshy money-grabbing twunts.

    18. Re:Outsource This! by Charles+W+Griswold · · Score: 1

      Indeed and the entry for Detention Centre reads - "a type of prison" which only confirms my suspicions.

      What, that "detention center" is synonymous with "prison"? If so, then you may have indeed read the definitions, but you certainly didn't understand them.
      --
      "Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber" -- Plato
    19. Re:Outsource This! by klept · · Score: 1

      Thanks. Can't understand why can not find the word on any of the online dictionaries

    20. Re:Outsource This! by dancallaghan · · Score: 2, Informative

      Except that in Australia our "detention centres" for illegal immigrants defy the parent's linked definition (definition says "can be kept for short periods of time"; we often hear stories of people held for many years).

    21. Re:Outsource This! by Zixia · · Score: 1

      (A pedant is anyone who cares about at least one more detail than I do. Anyone who cares about one less detail than I do is a lazy slob, of course.)

      FEWER!

      Lazy slob.

    22. Re:Outsource This! by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      Consider the possibility that he's a _lot_ smarter than you are. Oh, and read some George Orwell, it might do you some good.

      --
      What a long, strange trip it's been.
    23. Re:Outsource This! by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      Outstanding!

      --
      What a long, strange trip it's been.
    24. Re:Outsource This! by ab762 · · Score: 1

      Why, you insufferable pedant! You're right, of course.

  37. outgrowth of Political Correctness by yagu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know which came first, jargon-talk, or politically correct speech, but somewhere in the last thirty years, speech and writing has become more about saying something with empahis on:

    • not saying anything
    • not saying anything that could hurt someone's feelings or sensibilities
    • saying one thing but meaning something else
    • saying something with wiggle room for subsequent repudiation
    • saying something that wasn't asked for (not answering the question)

    Maybe, though I get slaughtered sometimes, that's why I like slashdot... slashdotters give as good as they take. And usually say what they mean, or at least try. Case in point, how simple could a mission statement (hate that term) be other than "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters." be?

    I jumped off the politcally correct band wagon years ago when two "corrections" juxtaposed themselves:

    1. An "instructor" in a sensitivity seminar (required by my company) stopped me mid-sentence after I used the term "black and white" and "corrected" it with "cut and dried". I argued a bit that the the difference between "black and white" and "cut and dried" (semantically) was, in fact, black and white, which of course she appreciated not at all.
    2. A memo arrived one day to all employees with a list of terms no longer allowed to be used in company writings, correspondence, etc. One term, "maiden voyage". Of course I couldn't get to my terminal soon enough to create some paper where I could work "maiden voyage" into the text.

    You all can fight back by using candid, frank, and direct language. But, you'll pay a price. Utlimately though I think you'll find it much more satisfying.

    1. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by MarkusQ · · Score: 1

      You all can fight back by using candid, frank, and direct language. But, you'll pay a price. Utlimately though I think you'll find it much more satisfying.

      The price doesn't have to be to great. Once word get around that you prefer to use candid, frank, and direct language most people will be eager to work with you and very few will oppose you.

      For those that don't initially grasp "the inherent dynamics of your paridgm" one or two simple public demonstrations of the power of clear language generally suffices to bring them around. After that they too will work with you (or at least stay very, very far away from you).

      --MarkusQ

    2. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by spot35 · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I'm still trying to work out how 'Brain Storming' can be offensive to epileptics. Any insight would be appreciated.

    3. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by Ernesto+Alvarez · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I'm still trying to work out how 'Brain Storming' can be offensive to epileptics. Any insight would be appreciated.


      I think an epileptic seizure acts like some sort of storm in the brain, with signals being sent all over the place without control.
    4. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by utexaspunk · · Score: 1

      Amen. I'll say what I think and get fired a hundred times before I stop. I have faith that there are people and companies out there who can take it, and even appreciate it. I'm never rude about it, and I always make a concise, logical, rational argument for my opinions. If you can't handle my opinion I don't want to work for you. I walk on eggshells for nobody.

    5. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by geniepiper · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I work for the ARC, used to be Association of Retarded Citizens, now due to political correctness it is just the ARC. Now I am not recommending we go back to calling the people at our center "retarded" but do we have to call them "consumers?"

    6. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You listed five changes to speech and writing you've observed in the last 30 years but only discussed one further. Of the five I think political correctness is least worrisome. "Saying something with wiggle room for subsequent repudiation" seems commonplace and has many negative consequences outside writing and speech. While political correctness can be annoying and occasionally taken too far it has at it's heart have a good motive, unlike the other four changes you mentioned. It's easy to list examples of non-PC language that few would argue for, such as "in a coon's age." The reason that I find myself leaning toward less offensive language is because I have a strong belief in the power of language. Teach your daughters "maiden voyage" and it becomes slightly more likely that she'll place undue importance on her virginity - but I suppose that's another argument. While it is obvious that PC zealots do go too far - as in your "cut and dried" example - unlike politicians using clever language to hide the truth or businessmen scamming customers, political correctness has good intentions and has largely improved our language.

    7. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by ahodgson · · Score: 1

      What the hell is wrong with calling them retarded? That is, after all, what the word means.

      Will they be less retarded if people stop calling them retarded? No.

    8. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by drewzhrodague · · Score: 1

      There is a rythmic pulsing of brain activity, where everything fires all at once.

      I would think that epileptics in the workplace would be more of a hazzard than a benefit -- unless they're in HR, in which case they become entertainment.

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      Zhrodague.net - I do projects and stuff too.
    9. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by wfberg · · Score: 1
      Case in point, how simple could a mission statement (hate that term) be other than "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters." be?


      Though in this case, a slightly longer mission statement might be called for.

      I suggest adding "oh yeah, and like, no dupes."

      --
      SCO employee? Check out the bounty
    10. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 1
      saying something that wasn't asked for (not answering the question)

      I see that a lot when any public figure is being interviewed. I love to see them keep on heatin' up the room with their breath when the interviewer says, "No, once again, you didn't answer the question. Did you fellate that intern, Senator?" It's like they know we know they aren't answering the question, but that's just how the game is played.

      As to the PC crap, I was "politically corrected" once. I was calling this tech support line about some problem with a computer, and I wanted to speak with the tech who I had started with, didn't remember his name, but remembered he was male. I got some woman on the line. Conversation something like this:

      Me: I need to speak with the tech assigned to this case. Do you have his name?
      Tech: I can look it up. And, you know, it could be a woman.
      Me: Not unless she has a really deep voice. I've already spoken to the gentleman.
      Tech: Oh.

      --

      They say the first thing to go is your penis. Well, it's either that or your brain. I forget which...
    11. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by bokutoe · · Score: 0

      People are too stupid to realize that retarded is a perfectly legitimate scientific term... They're insensitive to it because it's taken a negative connotation, namely by calling other people "retards". Kind of like "gay". A lot of gay people don't like being called gay either... disturbing ain't it?

    12. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by Danuvius · · Score: 1

      So because someone may have a non-life-threatening seizure every few months, they should not be allowed to work alongside normal people?

      I hope you're ready to start paying a lot more into various social security funds.

      --
      Akarsz Magyar Gentoo fórumot? Akkor
    13. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by Oniko · · Score: 1
      Heh... speaking as a female tech, even if you hadn't already known their gender, the first guess would be so much more likely it's not worth arguing over.

      Wasn't there an act of Parliament (/me == American, but they're the ones that compiled this gibberish of a language in the first place) that "he", "his", etc. could, for the sake of preventing linguistic awkwardness, be used for either gender?

      Personally, I tend to use either the masculine or the third person plural in the singular (they, their, etc) if I'm uncertain of gender. The former more often in male-dominated areas (Slashdot, my workplace, my engineering department, lan parties, online gaming, y'all know what I mean).

    14. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too much gets blamed on political correctness. It's not even intrinsically a bad thing, sure there are times when it gets extreme, but really it's about being considerate. There's no need to take it personally. The mention of PCness draws so much ire one would think it was part of a plot to control and destroy... Anyhow, overly complex speech is much older than PCness. They have something in common though: they exist because words are powerful and multidimensional, they can inspire strong emotions and trigger memories, from very good to very painful. Words are more than their dictionary meanings. To speak plainly at all times is to act deaf and dumb to human nature, which for all individuals is not completely rational.

    15. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by geniepiper · · Score: 1

      I agree with both of you while at the same time I realize that it is an unacceptable word to many people. BTW a lot of our "consumers" call themselves retarded. To them it is just a description of the way things are.

    16. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you'll find it much more satisfying.

      Cant help but respond to that. You will find it immensely satisfying. I run a business, and I am a strong supporter of the Plain English campaign, and a lifetime adversary of weasel speak, who just happens to have a computer science and linguistics degree. It occured to me many years ago that the time I expend decyphering corporate bullshit and encoding simple language to be weasel-readble actually cost me more than just refusing to deal with the idiots. But then it's awful to have to turn away clients and suppliers that cant communicate properly, so why not have some fun along the way? So I force them to compete on their ability to communicate. Instead of pandering to their corporate bullshit filters, I turn the game around and force them to pander to my extreme grammar Nazi standards. I send communications back with "Did you mean ..?" corrections, spelling corrections, and extended analysis of sematics. Invariably I am passed quickly up to the most senior levels of any organisation, usually where the older staff actually have some basic grasp of the written English language and can deal with it. The answer my friends, is not to take it. Impose your standards, the standards of the majority, on those that twist language to their own aims. Make them jump through _your_ hoops. Communication is a two way thing. Make it perfectly clear to bullshitters that they are not being understood.
      And make it clear that you know where you stand, that you actually enjoy the power that comes from
      being the stronger communicator and that they are communicating from a position of weakness by not being able to speak standard English.

    17. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by drewzhrodague · · Score: 1

      I was under the impression that seizures were life threatening, as someone in the throwes has the potential to do things like swallow their tongue, etc. How does this help me when I have to stop working to go and help someone through such a bout? Why is so much of that my fault, that I end up paying for it in terms of time and money? This doesn't make sense to me...

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      Zhrodague.net - I do projects and stuff too.
    18. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by henni16 · · Score: 1

      Wasn't there an act of Parliament (/me == American, but they're the ones that compiled this gibberish of a language in the first place) that "he", "his", etc. could, for the sake of preventing linguistic awkwardness, be used for either gender?

      Not likely, that sounds reasonable ;-)

      I sometimes wonder how women perceive texts that have been "PCified",
      because I think such texts mostly sound stupid(*) and feel somewhat forced (and because of that: more or less meaningless),
      OTOH it is somewhat awkward for me if somebody always uses "she",
      but I think that's only because it is unusual and more noticeable that way.

      (*) I am German and in German (and in Latin..)its even more awful because there are masculine and feminine forms of almost all words that refer to (groups of) persons;
      besides having the he/she problem, imagine
      a) two forms for every occupation you can think of, like "manager", "student", "teacher", "assistant", "contestant", "player", every possible job title..
      b) "gender-aware" articles, not only "the"
      => You either get horrible long constructions or an (orthographically wrong) construct is used (like writing "(s)he" to address both)

      The Romans solved this problem the hardcore macho way (probably the reason why "he" is usually been used):
      as soon as there might be one(!) man in an addressed group - he might be one in a crowd of thousands of women - the masculine form is used in Latin.
      Now, how about that, linguistic feminazis! ;-))

    19. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by jc42 · · Score: 1

      (*) I am German and in German (and in Latin..)its even more awful because there are masculine and feminine forms of almost all words that refer to (groups of) persons; besides having the he/she problem, ...

      So do Germans ever use the old English approach of using plural as an indefinite gender? I don't know German well enough to know.

      One of the funnier "grammar nazi" items in English is the frequent objection to this use of they/their/them for a single person of indefinite sex. This sounds like a reasonable objection, because "they" is called "3rd person plural". But usually in such discussions, some language historian speaks up with the observation that this usage goes back to the earliest English texts that we have. Not only did Shakespeare do this, but there are a lot of citations from his predecessors.

      This doesn't stop the discussion, of course, possibly because a lot of people don't really want a solution. But arguments tend to fizzle when someone points out that this isn't a modern "corruption" of English grammar.

      Anyway, at least with prepositions, the same trick should work in German. And there's already the semi-parallel of using 2nd-person plural as a formal singular pronoun.

      Fixing the nouns would be a bit trickier, of course.

      The real solution would be for all of Europe to adopt Finnish, which has no gender at all, not even in the pronouns.

      (Linguistic trivia question: Which other languages spoken in Europe have this property?)

      --
      Those who do study history are doomed to stand helplessly by while everyone else repeats it.
    20. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by henni16 · · Score: 1

      So do Germans ever use the old English approach of using plural as an indefinite gender?
      No, I don't think so as the problem with the gender of the nouns still exists in the plural.
      You will very likely have such a noun in your sentences unless you have to directly address someone
      - and in that case you use neutral words like "you" in English. And there's already the semi-parallel of using 2nd-person plural as a formal singular pronoun. Sorry, but I am not sure about what you mean..
      "Du" and "Sie" in German, respecitve "Dein" and "Ihr" since you wrote something about 2nd person plural?

      The real solution would be for all of Europe to adopt Finnish, which has no gender at all, not even in the pronouns. (Linguistic trivia question: Which other languages spoken in Europe have this property?)
      Well, I am not a linguist but AFAIK Finnish and Turkish have common roots..

    21. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by Danuvius · · Score: 1
      I was under the impression that seizures were life threatening, as someone in the throwes has the potential to do things like swallow their tongue, etc. How does this help me when I have to stop working to go and help someone through such a bout? Why is so much of that my fault, that I end up paying for it in terms of time and money? This doesn't make sense to me...
      Yes, like tripping and falling is life threatening. A lot of people with epilepsy are no more like to die from epilepsy than you were likely to die riding your bike.

      I've known people who were regularly fired (under various pretexts) because of their semi-regular (once a month or once a few months) seizures from every job they had so far.

      In a very practical sense, you're talking about a worker who cannot perform their job for a few minutes - few hours every once in a while. If the person is diligent, your company might get more value out of them then they do out of you or would out of me (Slashdot postings and all considered).

      Why should you pay for it? Hmmm... well, if you pay taxes you'd have no choice. And letting people starve to death is not an option.

      People who have nothing to lose are not pleasant to have around anyways. They have far fewer qualms about a wide range of illegal and immoral acts.

      How about letting them work and have meaning to their lives (even if some people would rather pretend they did not exist), and taking the occasional half-day they miss due to seizures out of their paycheque?
      --
      Akarsz Magyar Gentoo fórumot? Akkor
    22. Re:outgrowth of Political Correctness by mink · · Score: 1

      In the mental health industry here in the US, they use Mentally Retarded and Developmentally Disabled (there are two differing conditions, from what I understand) all over the place, even in organization names.

      --
      Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
  38. That's the problem by Badgerman · · Score: 1

    Good business is indeed all about communication. Kudos to your integrety (and what IS your small business if I may ask).

    However, in a world with a lot of bad business practices, communication gets quickly obscured. When most people are flinging BS, it's who flings the most convincing BS that wins.

    The point of the Weasel Words actually is not communication, however. The last thing way too many wordweasels want to do is actually say something.

    --
    "The Sage treasures Unity and measures all things by it" - Lao Tzu
    1. Re:That's the problem by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 1

      I'm a co-owner of a web consulting firm - design, development, marketing (SEO/PPC, not pop-ups). I spend a lot of time meeting potential clients, writing proposals, and managing projects. It's amazing how my business skills have improved in the last six months or so.

    2. Re:That's the problem by Badgerman · · Score: 1

      I've switched from programming to Project Management recently, and find that my honesty actually helps. It's almost like its refreshing to people that, even when I use bizspeak, I MEAN something. And I love honest numbers. It's weird to think my competitive edge may be actual communication.

      And what's the website of this firm? Now I'm intrigued.

      --
      "The Sage treasures Unity and measures all things by it" - Lao Tzu
  39. Fear of empty spaces. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    When I was going to school all my writting requirements required one thing, Length. The more you write the better grade you get. They never focused on Spelling or Grammer or tried to gently guide me to writting well (Which I still cannot do). The more you wrote the smarter you are. So as these people get higher and higher up in buisness threw the natural process of Dieing and growing up. More and more exects will use more and more "Weasel Words" To fill up their papers and statments so they look like they know what they are doing. And in turn they will judge others intelegance on how much data they fill. The easiest way to acheave this effect is by using Buzz words because they sound like good vocabulary words to use but they wouldn't to esoteric for a common person. There is a fear of putting empty spaces without someting to see or read on it. Most new cars on the visors will have warning messages on them or mirros on the other side. A visor just cant be a visor to block the sun from going into your eyes while driving. A large room or office must have enough stuff in it or it is considred empty and dull. Every inch must be utilized if you cant think of a good reason to utilize it then you make up some other reason to utilize it. In order to stop Weasel words we need to change our culture to allow space into our lives and allow emptiness to exist.

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    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    1. Re:Fear of empty spaces. by SamBeckett · · Score: 1

      I don't know where you went to school, but I do know that it sucked. I write reasonably well and my writing has never been graded on length. I turned in a term paper that was nearly 700 words short of target and still received three As (one from the professor, two from my peers.)

      If you are interested in improving, you should really take another class "just to learn" and ignore the grades.

    2. Re:Fear of empty spaces. by MrCopilot · · Score: 1
      ..



      ..

      ..



      ..


      .There, is that enough, you white space hoarding fool?

      Ha,ha even slashdot responds with :

      Your comment has too few characters per line (currently 2.5).

      --
      OSGGFG - Open Source Gamers Guide to Free Games
  40. Email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The word 'email' or its variants such as 'e-mail' properly describes a system of communication electronically. It does not denote a message. So "I sent you an email" should more properly be "I sent you an email message." One sees this misuse very frequently in business correspondence and informal discussions. Its use reveals lazy thinking on the part of its users.

    Oh please. Reminds me of this joke:

    Harvard freshman: Excuse me, where's the library at?
    Harvard snob: At Harvard we prefer not to end a sentence with a preposition.
    Freshman ponders a moment...
    Oh, so sorry. OK. Where's the library at, asshole?

  41. From Vision Comes Values by RealProgrammer · · Score: 1

    That was the motto a corporation I used to work for came up with. They meant that they are a people-first, family-oriented, nice company.

    It never seemed right to me, but I couldn't place the problem until recently, driving past a shell of one of their former buildings. Your vision is supposed to come from your values, which should be part of you. If your values come from your vision, that means that your guiding principles are a result of desires, which can change with the winds of economics.

    In their case, the talked about family and values, but they still expected 70-hour weeks.

    They downsized me in preparation for a dotcom buyout. When the dotcom that bought them went under, the original management bought the company back for a lot less than they sold it for.

    Not that I'm bittter or anything.

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  42. Take a better shot than this... by TopShelf · · Score: 1

    Productivity gains is where workers have to work longer hour for less money and produce more products/outcomes. Productivity gains has nothing to do with developing new technology or buying latest technology, machinery, hardware or even software, because industry cannot incur such costs to their bottom line. If industry did invest in such areas it would not achieve the mystical productivity gains.

    This isn't a criticism of language, it's just pissing and moaning. Well-applied technology can lead to more efficient business processes, and productivity gains can certainly result. I recently visited an old employer of mine - for my last project there we had installed a new WMS (Warehouse Management System) with barcode scanners, and today they ship the amount of product, at higher levels of performance, with 90-100 employees rather than 150 previously.

    There's plenty of room to attack the use of language in corporate environments today, but this is a pretty lame effort. They obviously need to reengineer their value proposition to maximally leverage their core competencies, relative to an integrated understanding of their customer base's unrealized profit potential...

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    1. Re:Take a better shot than this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, so "productivity gain" means sacking workers instead of just paying them less. Paying them nothing, in fact. Fucking jerk. I look forward to the day when you are "down-sized" - preferably at age 45 or 50, when you're too old to retrain and no-one will even read your CV past your birthdate.

  43. Victorian Period by P3NIS_CLEAVER · · Score: 0

    Have you ever read any books from the Victorian era? It is just as incomprehensible.

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  44. What bothers me more than the weasel words,... by Yewbert · · Score: 2, Insightful
    What bothers me about churches specifically - or, more to the point, about Organized Religion in general - more than the weasel words about their "missions" and "visions" and such, is the huge amount of "middle management" in their structure.

    To make an only somewhat bold and oversimplified assertion, we've seen the effects of the middle-management mentality in (among many other examples) the travesty that has been the Catholic church's handling of the sex-abusing priests: "Middle-management" shuffled most of them around and let them continues to get away with their sick activities, rather than just deal with them properly in the first place.

    Would ANY of that happened if there weren't such a tall management structure, if the religion weren't so organized, if it were instead just a bunch of more-or-less disconnected churches who only paid heed to the main-line directly to their "CEO"? And isn't that the way it SHOULD be anyway?

    Feel free to flame, but I just can't see the necessity for such a stratified power-structure in religion.

    1. Re:What bothers me more than the weasel words,... by 3nd32 · · Score: 1

      While I am not knowledgable about the Roman Catholic Church, I'll attempt to address this with speculation based on the little I do know.

      One major reason for the hierarchy of the church is to assure all congregations are cared for. Some churches are located in poor areas, and the congregation is unable to support themselves. The bishop should be aware of this, and able to allocate funds to support the congregation. Another situation where the bishop is important is when a church's priest retires or dies. The bishop is aware of which priests are available in the area, and which would be best-suited to the task. This provides a smoother transition than occurs in some independent churches, who can spend years looking for a new pastor. With over 1 billion members, there is no way the pope could handle all of this, and due to the wide distribution of churches, individual priests don't have the necessary connections. Therefore, bishops must fill the gap.

      I feel the horrible handling of sexual abuse from priests was not a result of a flawed system, but a failure of individuals. Those individuals (both the priests and the bishops who failed to investigate/report as they should have) need to be prosecuted both within the church and criminally. I don't believe the organization as a whole is at fault.

      Hope my completely uninformed typing provides some insight into why middle management within a church is necessary.

  45. Thank god someone is recognizing this by ferrocene · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just the other day I was ranting to coworkers on how this lingo gets into everyday work.

    I was writing up a report and I was including the phrase "Solutions", but I forget what I was solving. Can't I just fix something anymore? Why do I have to deliver a solution?

    Issues and solutions, issues and solutions. I with I had an old-fashioned problem. I'd probably just fix it!

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    1. Re:Thank god someone is recognizing this by superflippy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Our research group has "solutions" in its name, so when we redesigned and reorganized our web site 4 years ago, it seemed to make sense to include a section titled "solutions." There is also a section titled "our work," with the difference being that the work is a list of projects we've actually done and the "solutions" are categories showing the types of projects we can do.

      Looking at our web site usage stats for the past year, the work main page has been visited quite a bit and specific project pages have even more hits, but the solutions main page didn't get enough hits in a year to even show up on the list.

      I think "solutions" has become a sort of synonym for vaporware, and people would rather read about something concrete, like "projects" and "work."

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    2. Re:Thank god someone is recognizing this by mtdenial · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Indeed. Among other things, it seems that the wonderful thing about solutions and issues is that you don't really have to solve issues. You manage or deal with issues. Therefore, if the issue doesn't really go away, it's not *you* that failed, it's just that it was managed somewhat incorrectly. Wheras if something is a problem and it doesn't go away, you are basically incompetent. This fundamental difference in language is pretty powerful and is without question in use in a lot of large organizations to cover somewhat incompetent responses to real problems.

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    3. Re:Thank god someone is recognizing this by FooGoo · · Score: 1, Funny

      I used to say I fix problems for a living. Now I say I resolve issues and I bill twice as much.

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  46. mission statements by Bullfish · · Score: 1

    No matter how you word it, any mission statement can be reduced to "we strive to do our best, to be our best, to provide our best".

    They are all to often a sign of weak leadership and direction hoping to compensate for such.

    I dislike them on that basis.

  47. Get Some Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People will argue for days about how shitty Microsoft is but when it comes to light we are all subtly being manipulated nobody cares.

    At this time this article has 50 replies while a thread with SCREENSHOTS has 600.

  48. The most important question... by Wicked187 · · Score: 1

    at least to me, is whether we care what Newsweek has to say about anything. Obviously, the Slashdot crowd hangs out in Leftsville, for the most part, but being moderate, I would hope that they could appreciate the apprehensiveness I am expressing.

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    1. Re:The most important question... by heff · · Score: 1

      it's just an interview with a book author dude, just an interview...

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  49. circumlocutions and euphemisms by museumpeace · · Score: 1

    will always be with us. The expression "call a spade a spade" goes back to ancient Greek city states and what they thought of each others directness in speech.
    As long as you have to catch someone with your words, promote something with your pitch etc you will always have to make this choice: be honest and say up front "I'd like to make the following impression on you..." or be dishonest. The latter allows you to cover your hook with some bait of words: to use a vocabulary that obscures the nasty and disarms the thinking of your victim.
    Your vocabulary is a bit like your wardrobe too: You don't go to a business meeting in cutoffs and T-shirt [well I do but...] and you don't use freehand drawings for presentation graphics...some situtations call for wrapping the contents in ostentation and formality. Makes me glad I'm just a coder.

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  50. Catchphrase by COMON$ · · Score: 1

    You know, I dont mind core values or mission statements nearly as much as I detest Catch Phrases designed to maipulate the sheep of the world. If your cause is completely run by catchphrases (pick a political party and political issue, any will do). Heaven forbid we actually explain something to people, just make sure it rhymes and is catchy and you have people willing to follow you to their doom.

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  51. Actually, it's how businessmen confuse the market by Colin+Smith · · Score: 1

    In a market, people generally try to choose the best product at the lowest price. That means you have to know what the best product is as well as how much it's worth. Information is power.

    Well, if your product is chalk, then people aren't going to be willing to shell out £2.50 for a box of 30 chalk pills are they? So they sell you Settlers Tums instead of selling you chalk. Think of branding as economic disinformation.

    Exactly the same techniques are used in business management for exactly the same reason. To confuse the market and get people to shell out more money for the same commodity product (management). Economic disinformation.

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  52. It's really not the buzzwords so much... by Jerf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's really not the buzzwords so much as the matrix of meaningless in which they are embedded.

    For instance, I've seen the phrase "core competency" come up in this discussion a couple of times. I've actually adopted that one in all seriousness, though, because it is a valuable concept, especially in this time of outsourcing. (And remember, outsourcing doesn't just mean "to India"... a six-person company can't hardly afford not to outsource HR nowadays, and that is largely a good thing all the way around.) If you are in a company and you can't identify your core competencies, you're in trouble. If you try to outsource your core competencies, you might as well just pack up shop. And you ought to be wary about taking on things that don't play to your core competencies, and you ought to be careful about expanding them if you don't have the resources.

    But I use the term very specifically, and because there is no better replacement. The problem isn't that word specifically, it's when it gets buried in passive voice and slapped together with other "buzzwords" and ultimately stripped of all referents. "Core competency" is meaningless if you don't really know what it is, or it has no effect on the rest of the sentence/paragraph it is embedded in (i.e., the paragraph makes sense equally if your "core competency" is spinning cotton into thread or performing top-secret assassination missions). Generally, a "mission statement" ought to say outright what it is supposed to be.

    There are other similar buzzwords that if you dig into where they came from, there are valuable ideas there and there are a few others I use in all seriousness, even though I'm more an engineer than a manager. It's really more how they are used, abused, misunderstood, and (perhaps most importantly, as shown above) underspecified that really hurts.

    (Here, I'm talking about the traditional "buzzwords". This is a separate class from "words I use to say something without invoking the negative connotations", like "issue" for "problem". Those are basically indefensible.)

    1. Re:It's really not the buzzwords so much... by GileadGreene · · Score: 2, Insightful
      This has long been a problme with the management world. Not just in language, but in management fads. There are actually a few useful nuggets of information buried in things like TQM. But they can't be applied blindly or at random - you need to actually understand what you're doing.

      The same goes for "management speak". Many of these ideas began as useful things that helped a corporation get its act together. Understanding what your "core competencies" are is important. Defining your corporate "mission" really can help. Identifying "key stakeholders" can be a good thing. But only is these things are actually done with a real understanding of what is being done and why. Paying lip service to these principles (such as slapping togther a "mission statement" simply because "everyone else has one") does not yield useful results. That's what leads to these things having a bad name.

      Too often people lose sight of the result they are trying to achieve, and simply assume that so long as they follow some prescribed process or template they will automatically be successful. IMHO that's the number one problem in modern corporate (and government) culture: a focus on process rather than results. Having a "good process" is meaningless if the desired results are not achieved. Blindly imitating successful orgranizations is pointless if you don't understand why they were successful, and adapt their methods to fit your situation.

  53. I think this guy is missing the bigger picture by bobcat7677 · · Score: 1

    He seems to be making a living selling books and doing comedy routines, but really it's all based on whining about change IMHO.

    Yes, all the "corporate speak", slick political speeches and what-not get pretty annoying at times. But look at the bigger picture of what's happening. The english language (and communications in general over the ages) have continually evolved. Words are added to the dictionary every year as new things are invented that require descriptions, and language has to be expanded to describe more things. Essentially the english language is a huge community project, where every english speaking person in the world is a potential contributor. New words or phrases become accepted as they become widely used. In a free speach environment, it's an evolution that nobody can control...only contribute to and observe.

  54. initiatives by garlicbready · · Score: 1

    here's a good one from the British government let's introduce a packet of measures and a range of initiatives

  55. I noticed by bornyesterday · · Score: 1
    that a lot of the "weasel words" on the website are just improper uses of words/grammar.

    The "I'm good" in response to "how are you?" is just the fact that people don't realize there is a difference between good and well. "I'm well" means that I am in good health and doing ok. "I'm good" means that I behave properly.

    There were several other in that category. With all due respect, I'm thinking that the people who consider them "weasel words" have more of a problem, than the people who use them incorrectly.

    1. Re:I noticed by CmdrGravy · · Score: 2, Funny

      In my case when I say "I'm good. Thanks" I am really saying "I'm damn good at sex you know".

  56. It's fashion. Shallow, embarassing fashion. by ScentCone · · Score: 1

    Just like 1334-speak is the tongue-stud and baggy pants of the English language, management buzz-words are the after-market spinner hubs on the engine of productivity. They convey movement and complexity where there is little or none, and distract the intellectually modest from having to think about what an organization actually does. Because, in a large organization, what it does is pretty complicated, and takes some actual depth of thought and a multi-minute attention span to comprehend and discuss.

    Give it a decade. We'll see PowerPoint presentation with charts showing, in detail, how "OMG, we totally h@xx0r3d the competition last quarter. Kewl! But this quarter is teh sucks. WTF???" Next slide, please, dude.

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  57. My personal favs by HangingChad · · Score: 1
    From years of wading through corporate bullshit there are few piles that really stand out.

    Empowerment - We're cutting staff so we're enpowering those of you who are left to do their work and yours for the same pay.

    Right size - We're sending your jobs to Pakistan. If you're lucky we'll empower you to stay long enough to train your replacements.

    Disconnect - Any time you can't read the customer's mind and anticipate every boot-licking, petty request they might have. Enough disconnects and we'll right size your position and empower you to pursue a career in fast food.

    Paradygm - A made up word consultants use to make you feel stupid and justify their massive salaries. A new paradygm usually leads to empowering people to do two jobs for one salary.

    My all time hall of fame winner comes from Dell:

    Award winning service - We've shipped our call center overseas, if you really want any help you might want to learn Hindi.

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    1. Re:My personal favs by jafiwam · · Score: 1

      Google: "paradygm" 680 hits

      Google: "paradigm" 15 million hits

      "Paradigm" is a real word used to describe chains of scientific theories strung together with dependancies.

      For example, geologic dating relies on rock layers, known rates of chemical/radiological change, tree rings, magnetic pole reversals, etc.

      The paradigm is the understanding of how it all fits together to give a picture of the history of some place.

      Screw up a couple of those dating techniques (chemical rates for example) and the whole thing colapses becase lots of stuff depended on that being right. The new construct of theories comes out of it (after a while and all the wrangling among professors is over) and the transition is called "paradigm shift".

      Heliocentric vs Earth-centric ideas of the solar system is a classic example of a paradigm shift. Kepler's Laws of Planetary Motion was the part that kicked in the change.

      Lumbard-esque business weasels stole and corrupted the word. They DID NOT make it up. They mis-understood and perverted it.

      Damn, I am a geek.

      My favorite term is;

      - "Controlled Flight into Terrain" used to describe an aircraft plowing into a hillside. Not a crash, "flight into terrain". (Admittedly, describing a certain type of accident. But funny nonetheless.)

    2. Re:My personal favs by corngrower · · Score: 1
      "Controlled Flight into Terrain" used to describe an aircraft plowing into a hillside. Not a crash, "flight into terrain".

      They're being more specific than just 'crash'. This would be in contrast to something like' Uncontrolled flight into terrain'. "Controlled flight into terrain " would describe a situation where the pilot had control of a plane but because of instrument failure or lack of visiblity, flew the plane into the mountainside or 'terrain'. No one on board would have known until at most an instant before the crash that anything was abnormal

      On the other hand. I have an aversion to the use of 'partnering'. As in 'Our company is partnering with such and such a company to....'.

    3. Re:My personal favs by richieb · · Score: 1
      The paradigm is the understanding of how it all fits together to give a picture of the history of some place.

      OK. Do this. Take two 10 cent coins from your pocket. Put them next to each other on you desk. Take a deep breath, and then move the two coins together to the right, by about 5 inches.

      You have just experienced a "pair-of-dime" shift...

      ....rim shot....

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  58. Proper Vision and Mission Statements by ThePyro · · Score: 1

    I think all organizations ought to have a mission or vision statement. However, for many organizations, the role of these statements seems to have degraded into nothing more that PR/propoganda.

    The proper role of a mission statement is to assist in the decision-making process. It should serve as a set of criteria for evaluating options. By writing out your organization's goals in a concrete form, you hope to keep the organization focused on its original goals and values even though the leadership figures might change. Theoretically speaking, of course.

    The problem with buzzword-ridden corporate mission statements, such as "We conveniently fashion professional methods of empowerment so that we may endeavor to continually initiate innovative solutions", is that they're too ambiguous to provide any proper guidance in the decision-making process. That, and the fact many mission statements are ignored when making big decisions, or just rewritten to fit the goals of new leadership.

    1. Re:Proper Vision and Mission Statements by CmdrGravy · · Score: 1

      I agree but the problem is that you can distill almost all organisations actual "mission" into one sentance.

      E.g

      A Limited Company: We aim to make money for our shareholders
      A Charity: I want you to give me as much money as you can.
      A Church: Lot's of us believe this rubbish and we'd like you to too.

      Unfortunately single sentances like that don't look very impressive on business literature and may give the reader the impression that they aren't the most important person in the world as far as the organisation is concerned.

  59. underground grammarian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  60. Someone has to say it... by williamhb · · Score: 1

    Watson brings a valuable contribution to the table and with proper utilization his proposed linguistic paradigm shift can be leveraged to provide a significant value-add to the interpersonal communication process...

    1. Re:Someone has to say it... by sandman935 · · Score: 1

      That was funny. I'd mod it if I could.

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  61. Depreciation by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I like the corporate weasel culture. Because when I learn that some biz person is basing their "worldview" on some "business scientology" book, I just "write them off".

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    1. Re:Depreciation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thing is, scientology starts off with the #1 rule being: define your words.

      so, if you're studying scientology properly, there won't actually be any words you don't understand.

      stuff like this just rolls on past ..

      it might surprise you, but scientology works.

      apply it everywhere and anywhere, simply use it, and you start to really understand what people are trying to say when they say 'implementation-specific application' ..

      scientology is the solution to "Weasel Words", not its neighbor .. course, you wouldn't know that unless you used it and saw it actually does work, for yourself, instead of "taking other peoples weasels^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hword" for it ..

      [the big secret of scientology: it works!]

    2. Re:Depreciation by mikefe · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about the religion or some other definition of "scientology"?

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    3. Re:Depreciation by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that e-Meter really can tell how strong your soul is. Tom Cruise must be off the scale. That's why Scientologists are so anxious to get the word out. Scientology works, when you worship your ego, and the money it can spend.

      In any event, I wasn't talking about Dianetics - though my denigrating allusion is appropriate. I was just using "scientology" to mean "corporate weasel culture", which it so abundantly evidently is.

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    4. Re:Depreciation by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      I was using the term colloquially to mean "faith based business".

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  62. Churches? by DesScorp · · Score: 1

    Any church that has to have a "mission statement" about their "core values" is in deep trouble. Their mission statement and core values should be readily apparent in their Bibles. Same for Synagogues and Mosques.

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    1. Re:Churches? by raider_red · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The mission statement for the Church is in the Bible:

      1. Love the Lord your God unconditionally
      2. Love your neighbor as yourself

      It seems like everything else the Church is supposed to do springs from those two commands.

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    2. Re:Churches? by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 0, Troll

      It seems like everything else the Church is supposed to do springs from those two commands.

      Unfortunately, they seem to pay their mission statement as much heed as most large companies.

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    3. Re:Churches? by peterpi · · Score: 1

      But, but, but, they're not going to get any money and political influence that way!

    4. Re:Churches? by raider_red · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, they seem to pay their mission statement as much heed as most large companies.

      There's a lot of truth in that statement. We're working on it though, and trying not to be discouraged by those who call themselves Christian, and seem to act otherwise. None of us are perfect.

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  63. Problem is not mission statements by Fished · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The problem is not churches with mission statements, it's churches with mission statements that read like press releases. As a pastor, I've worked hard to get my church to adopt a mission statement so that I could then compare anything they want to do with the mission statement and eliminate a lot of the cruft. (Thus far, I haven't been able to get it through ... but the day is young. :)

    The problem, usually, is that everyone wants to keep these things generic, bland, and inoffensive. They shouldn't be. For an example of a good mission statement, consider this one I wrote for a computer store I'm a partner in:

    Mission: We will serve our customers with (1) top-quality service, (2) good advice and (3) fair business practices.
    No weasel words, no paradigms--shifting or otherwise--and no nonsense. What we mean by these terms is spelled out in our values statement (which I won't reproduce here.) Because I have this statement, I can hold my employees accountable to it.

    A mission or vision that nobody understands is worthless. But a good one is priceless.

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    1. Re:Problem is not mission statements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      About the pastor's mission statement for his computer store, can he make it without the use of qualitative "top-quality", "good", and "fair" words? If he can, then I'll go to his store. Heck, I may even join his church for having no BS.

      In other words, any qualitative stuff mushes up things even if jargon is not used. Just because you've not used jargon does not mean it is clear.

      The statement should also have internal consistency. For instance, why "top" for service, and just "fair" for business practices. Why can't it be "top-quality" for all three: service, advice, and practice? What's the purpose of introducing such "shades" of meaning in a simple statement other than to mimic jargon?

      I personally think that any company/institution/organization/etc. that needs a "mission" is dispensible.

    2. Re:Problem is not mission statements by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1
      Fished wrote:

      As a pastor, I've worked hard to get my church to adopt a mission statement so that I could then compare anything they want to do with the mission statement and eliminate a lot of the cruft.


      Thus validating Dogbert's point that the purpose of a policy is to define what you don't do, so you can tell the customers, "We don't do that."

      Chris Mattern
    3. Re:Problem is not mission statements by Alizarin+Erythrosin · · Score: 1

      In my former department, we had an entire 8 hour meeting to develop our mission and vision statements for the year. It all revolved around fitting in some buzzword the top-level director (of Production at the time) wanted to see in everybody's statements. For example, "world-class" was 2 years ago.

      We, being engineers, came up with a truely well-written mission and vision we all could agree on, since we're the who have to uphold it. It was subsequently butchered by the boss because it didn't contain said buzzwords.

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    4. Re:Problem is not mission statements by Fished · · Score: 1
      Well, first of all (as I made fairly clear in the GP) what we mean by those terms is spelled out in our value statement.

      We always offer "top-quality" service, because we can do that. However, if we promised "top-quality" (or "good") business practices, then that invites the question of "good for whom?" Business practices that are the best possible for us would be bad for our customers. Business practices that are the best possible for the customer would surely lead to us going out of business. And, no, I don't think it's unreasonable that we draw some distinctions here. Otherwise, we could come up with something as meaningless as "We try to be a top-quality organization, in ever respect."

      I think you miss the point of a mission statement: this is a statement of overall guiding principle, not a policy manual. As such, it is an opportunity for me as a leader/manager (whether in the church or in business) to articulate the points that are most important to emphasize. It articulates how we are going to make our organization better--not every detail.

      Take the example of the computer store--I should hope it would be obvious that we need to clean bathrooms. But I'm not going to put clean bathrooms in the business statement precisely because clean bathrooms ARE obvious and not a point I feel a need to emphasize.

      In the church ... have you ever thought about how many different missions a church can perform? Everything from entertainment to housing to soup kitchens to therapy to rehabilitation to medical services to doctrine to political action to ... the list is endless. The purpose for a church in setting a mission statement is to say, here's what we are going to emphasize.

      Rambling . Later.

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    5. Re:Problem is not mission statements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the pastor should look up the Ten Commandments for style and concision. 'nuff said.

    6. Re:Problem is not mission statements by JoshWurzel · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thus far, I haven't been able to get it

      I recommend "Spread the teachings of Christ. Preferrably without killing non-believers or touching little boys."

      Mission: We will serve our customers with (1) top-quality service, (2) good advice and (3) fair business practices.

      Like most mission statements, this isn't actually a statement of your mission. It is a statement of how you want to behave while on your mission. Try adding the word "computer" somewhere in that sentence so that people can get an idea of what you actually DO. This will help you eliminate the cruft. Otherwise you will be providing your customers with top-quality service in the field of malaysian sweatshop labor.

    7. Re:Problem is not mission statements by Captain_Chaos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Mission: We will serve our customers with (1) top-quality service, (2) good advice and (3) fair business practices.

      No weasel words, no paradigms--shifting or otherwise--and no nonsense. What we mean by these terms is spelled out in our values statement (which I won't reproduce here.)

      You're a commercial enterprise in a capitalist society. Your first priority is therefore almost by definition to make profit. Why is that not in your mission statement?

    8. Re:Problem is not mission statements by Cally · · Score: 1
      Because I have this statement, I can hold my employees accountable to it.
      Wow, American churches are different from British churches... you have employees?!

      My parents 'have' a church - they[we*] happen to live next door to a nice old 11th century village church, and as my mother's one of the small handful of people who turn up each week, she ended up nominated as church-warden. My Dad has an ancient old manuscript-format book, with entries starting in the early 60s in fountain pen, containing the accounts. We just scraped up a couple of thousand quid to get the clock-face repainted, and the clock mechanism itself just had it's 25-year service a few years back. The man who cut the grass in the churchyard had to stop recently due to age. I say 'we' because although I'm a pretty devout athiest, I feel a small nagging sense of responsibility to help look after the place. OK, I'm rambling now :) & I'm not sure where this was going except that the thought has vaguely occured to me that it might be interesting to think about Americans, tourism, webcams or some combo of that sort of thing as an idea to help raise some cash to help maintain the building; and it's not often I encounter a self-confessed pastor socially ;)

      Nice mission statement, BTW :)

      [*I recently moved back to the village at the age of 36 after 18 years painting the town paisley... why yes, as it happens I _do_ have a Linux machine in my bedroom, why do you ask?) ]

      --
      "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." -- Goethe
    9. Re:Problem is not mission statements by Fished · · Score: 1

      Have you ever actually read them in the bible? They're not so concise as the pundits would have you think. Each one is accompanied by several verses of explanation.

      --
      "He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
  64. An amusing example by VoiceOfDoom · · Score: 1

    I had a friend who was working in the automotive industry, and who had to have weekly meetings with the American team (he is a Brit in the UK) to report on the project's progress.

    They had so many buzz-phrases that my friend decided to invent one and see how long it took before it became part of the everyday corporate-speak of the American team.

    So, at the next meeting he was like "Yeah, we really have to get our *noses against the windshield on this one*!!!

    Three days later.......he receives an email from the (American) project head saying "good idea etc etc modifications etc etc - let's all get our noses against the windshield and make it happen"!!!

    How we laughed!!!!

    --
    "Life is pain Highness. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something"

    Westly, The Princess Bride

  65. Oh dear God no! by Nemesis][ · · Score: 2, Funny

    Pauly Shore is now a vicious member of management!?!

    (Ya know... That DOES explain alot...)

  66. weasels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obligatory Homer quote:

    Homer (to Bart): "Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals ... except the weasel."

    Seriously, though, why are we here? We're here partly 'cause everybody needs to do somethin', and all most people can do is cloak their incompetency in buzzwords and huge piles of paper (and Post-Its) on their desk.

  67. Do they really do this / mean this much anymore ? by cbelt3 · · Score: 1

    My corporation doesn't do this sort of thing much any more. We're too busy trying to avoid getting our assets kicked by foreign competitors to waste time with 90's corporatespeak.

    Aside from some expected sloganeering on annual reports and such, do any corporations still waste time and serious money on crap like this ? I was under the impression it was a side effect of the 80's and 90's MBA-centric culture.

    Oh, and check out the MBA's 'hire rate' these days- it's around 40% right out of school.. heh heh heh.

  68. Understand the purpose of the words... by karlandtanya · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Words are tools. The corporation uses tools in its own interests, not yours. In the case of the weasel words, the corporation presents an image with no substance.


    The purpose is to present an image to the casual observer. Words are selected for their appearance--"pro active", "standards compliant", "reorganization", etc. sound like action, consistency, and controlled change.


    But they mean nothing. That's intentional. The corporation does not want to offer its detractors any ammunition for future attacks. "You said that..." Well, actually, we didn't say anything of the sort. Did we?


    Do you seriously expect some organization to give you a clear commitment to anything without there being some significant benefit to them for doing so?


    It's inconsistent with the corporation's fiduciary responsibility (look that one up, it's a real thing) to act in that manner. That is to say, if a corporate leader does things because "it's the right thing to do for the world/the customers/the industry", rather than "it makes more money for the stockholders and exposes the corporation to less risk", then they violate that responsibility.


    At best, that violation is unethical. At worst, it's criminal.

    --
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick
    1. Re:Understand the purpose of the words... by Jaime2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Read the interview. The author has no issue with corporations using management speak. He has a problem with politicians and teachers. They have a different responsibility that this sort of language is NOT suited for.

    2. Re:Understand the purpose of the words... by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It's inconsistent with the corporation's fiduciary responsibility (look that one up, it's a rear thing) to act in that manner.

      This "fiduciary responsibility" is in my opnion the main reason we should fear corporations -- like we do fear hungry lions. Amoral, besital and constantly looking for lunch.

      Therefore, the problem of twisted language used to hide the truth from the victims of the hungry corporate greed and lust for power is only a minor one when compared to the corporate influence over governments.

      I firmly believe that in order to save capitalism and the Western societies from themselves, one has to limit severely the size of businesses and remove the corporation as a structure from its current dominant place and restore it to its original purpose, as the "public charter" used to allow a group of small businesses to gang together temporarily to afford a large project.

      Having a greedy, narcisstic and amoral "persons" -- as the corporations are treated by the law of their own design -- is not in the interest of society at large, nor it is in the interest of the economic system known as "capitalism" since its main fuel is "competition", but gigiantic corporations are contrary to that.

    3. Re:Understand the purpose of the words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh, the unethical and possibly criminal neglect of a corporate executive's fiduciary responsibility.

      What the fuck ever happened to that person's moral responsibility as a human being? They do not stop being a citizen and a neighbor simply because they are employed! That responsibility trumps any desire for profit, every single time, hands down!

    4. Re:Understand the purpose of the words... by pilkul · · Score: 1
      You have a point, but another main fuel since the time of Ford is "economies of scale". Just do away entirely with large corporations would be a huge economic setback. Not to mention (to give an example you probably care about more) also an environmental setback, since it's harder to regulate lots of small companies than a few big ones. Observe that most of the damage currently being done to the South American rainforest is by small companies and individuals razing land for small-time farming, not corporate logging.

      The influence of corporations on government policy is overrated IMHO. I saw a study last year (sorry no link) examining a set of U.S. bills and the influence of corporate lobbying was determined to be relatively low on decisionmaking, IIRC far lower than voting blocs like unions for example. Money can in the end only get you so many votes. Lobbying is a problem but certainly not a "collapse of civilisation" scale one.

    5. Re:Understand the purpose of the words... by Twylite · · Score: 1

      The attitude and lack of knowledge of (most of) the Slashdot crowd never ceases to amaze me. How is it that supposedly intelligent people who get uppity when other professions question their idiosyncrasies, are unable to grasp the concept that other professions have bodies of knowledge with theoretical models and their own technical jargon?

      The list on Watson's website is one third corrupted management terminology, one third English idiom (as in real English, not Americanisationalicismal English), and one third journalist creativity. The list simply shows that untrained people are attempting to use words they don't understand; in much the same way as a user will explain to tech support that their 20 Gigahertz hard drive won't boot, or Thunderbird won't dial up (both real examples).

      Management, economics, law and accounting are all business sciences. They use observation, modelling and model testing to build a body of knowledge that can be applied to real-world situations. In this process each discipline develops its own jargon that has specific meaning within the discipline.

      For example, "core competence" is mentioned in another thread. Most people understand it to be either the essential or base skills necessary to do a job ("at the core"), or the things that a person or company does really well ("our/my core competence is Java programming"). It is neither. The management idiom "core competence" refers to the distinctive skills that are difficult to imitate and that give a business a competitive advantage. Read the wikipedia .

      In the interview Watson talks about the CIA having "internal clients". This is like an author mocking the concept of internal interfaces in a modular software system. A business is an interconnected system; each employee performs some function that is either an output to the customers of the business, or an input to the function of another employee. By establishing a supplier-customer relationship between employees or functions, each employee becomes more involved in the quality of inputs and outputs, and accountable to employees other than their manager. This is the basis of TQM.

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      i-name =twylite [http://public.xdi.org/=twylite], see idcommons.net
    6. Re:Understand the purpose of the words... by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      Just do away entirely with large corporations would be a huge economic setback.

      Economies of scale are as equally served by a large number of small businesses producing an essentially compatible product as they are by one single gigiantic one. It is a non-argument.

      Not to mention (to give an example you probably care about more) also an environmental setback, since it's harder to regulate lots of small companies than a few big ones.

      Harder how? You mean it will take a large number of inspectors instead of a few easilly bribed by huge wealth?

      Observe that most of the damage currently being done to the South American rainforest is by small companies and individuals razing land for small-time farming, not corporate logging.

      That is because the South American governments do not give a damn about it and do even encourage it. It has absolutely nothing to do with the size of the entities involved but with the lack of protections and their enforcement. A truly nice strawman you have constructed.

      I saw a study last year (sorry no link) examining a set of U.S. bills and the influence of corporate lobbying was determined to be relatively low on decisionmaking, IIRC far lower than voting blocs like unions for example.

      While politicians do indeed have conflicted loyalties when they hope to get re-elected, one has to only see the trends in policies, economic behaviour and laws (such as the Intellectual Property scam) to see whose side is winning this battle. Pay attention to the rapidly increasing gap between the top 100 world wealthiest individuals and the rest of the planet. Look at the percentage of corporate CEO pay vs. the rest of the company. When I speak about "corporations" and "corporatists" I do not mean the peons in the mailing room, you know.

  69. We know why they use these words! by erroneus · · Score: 1

    I didn't realize it needed analysis. These people want to throw an intelligent sounding variation to the volcabulary commonly used. Some might say it's to make dumb people sound smarter. It might also be true, but dumb people don't come up with words on their own -- someone out there with a thesaurus is just trying to relieve the tedium.

  70. Politically correct speech and pronunciations by SeanDuggan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What really gets to me is when it's not even based upon the actual words, but upon the "fear someone might mishear." I'm sure everyone's heard about the politician who got lambasted for using the word niggardly. Then, in a play I was in last year, someone objected to an actor who had the line, "Don't get your knickers in a knot," because she was afraid someone would mishear the word, "knickers." *sigh* And it gets to you after a while. I actually find my self balking for a second before using "black" as a personal descriptor, so many people taking offense, seeing it as labelling.

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    This sig has absolutely no significance and serves only to take up screen space and waste the time of the reader.
    1. Re:Politically correct speech and pronunciations by BurntHombre · · Score: 2, Funny
      "I actually find my self balking for a second before using 'black' as a personal descriptor, so many people taking offense..."

      Could it be because you're white?

    2. Re:Politically correct speech and pronunciations by apt142 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Could it be because you're white?

      That's chromatically challenged, thank you.

    3. Re:Politically correct speech and pronunciations by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 1

      White and never acidentally offended a Jamaican coworker with "African American".

    4. Re:Politically correct speech and pronunciations by noidentity · · Score: 1

      I actually find my self balking for a second before using "black" as a personal descriptor, so many people taking offense, seeing it as labelling.

      Please, use the term "luminosity-challenged".

  71. Good. by kahei · · Score: 2, Interesting


    Given that I have to say a lot of fairly boring things I would rather put some effort into giving what I say the qualities you describe than just blurt it out. It makes my day slightly more interesting and it reduces the chance of people getting pissed off, which makes me tired (I am old).

    So, while you're making a point of being 'candid, frank and direct' I'll be taking the extra five seconds to be polite, diplomatic and cautious. We'll see which strategy turns out to be more stressful.

    --
    Whence? Hence. Whither? Thither.
  72. Best mission statement ever by greenguy · · Score: 1

    OUR MISSION STATEMENT

    Missions were used by the Spanish to colonize Mexican California in the 18th century. Their establishment was instrumental in the genocide of California's native peoples.

    We oppose them.

    (from Eat the State)

    --
    What if I do the same thing, and I do get different results?
    1. Re:Best mission statement ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Actually, the best mission statement ever, IMHO, was:

      Tastes great, less filling .

      Clear, concise, no BS. Much better than 'Our coporate mission is to create refreshing malt beverage which is perceived to be market-leading and which will provide maximum shareholder value blah blah blah...'

  73. We need to prioritize your action items by brother_b · · Score: 1

    One phrase that I hear a lot is "action item". I guess hearing it for over 5 years has desensitized me to it, but it's still a pretty dumb turn of phrase.

  74. Says Nothing Substantive by mankey+wanker · · Score: 1

    The guy says nothing of substance. Jargon is just one of the ways language evolves. Language is not static however much semantic nazis want to force certain modes of speech on everyone else.

    I agree that some statements laden with jargon fail to communicate a precise idea, and to that extent fail in their primary functions: to communicate ideas precisely so that other people can understand what was being stated.

    But taking specific words to task is sort of bullshit. If I say: "I implemented a new code routine" how is that somehow far worse than saying "I created a new code routine"? That's just silly, the word implemented is fine. In fact, it might be even better because it might suggest both creation and placement within an existing programmatic context. Follow-up statements might go towards explaining where the code was implemented, development or production, etc. The word has a meaning that conveys information usefully. Pointing out the failings if certain words is really just whining about the imprecision of all languages and all words. So what else is new?

    And you know, if certain word choices really bother someone that much - maybe the problem is with him! Maybe that person is an idler with an obsessive compulsion to try to control the world around him even to the point of trying to dictate how other people choose to express themselves. Could be, huh? Just maybe...

  75. Most hated; most loved. by wcrowe · · Score: 1

    My most hated new phrase which I'm hearing more and more is "on a go-forward basis", said in place of, "from now on".

    But not all new Corporate-Speak is bad. My favorite new phrase: "blamestorming", to describe a meeting where managers sit around trying to assess blame for some mistake. Of course, unlike the first phrase, this one wasn't invented by the PHB's.

    --
    Proverbs 21:19
    1. Re:Most hated; most loved. by bigdavex · · Score: 1

      My most hated new phrase which I'm hearing more and more is "on a go-forward basis", said in place of, "from now on".

      It's just what the say when they're thinking up their next sentence.
      "On a going-forward basis" is manager speak for "ummm".

      --
      -Dave
  76. Email Message? (WTF) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Email: 'The word 'email' or its variants such as 'e-mail' properly describes a system of communication electronically. It does not denote a message. So "I sent you an email" should more properly be "I sent you an email message." One sees this misuse very frequently in business correspondence and informal discussions. Its use reveals lazy thinking on the part of its users.

    Sounds to me like somebody has a stick up their butt. Let's look at the dictionary definition, shall we? Oh look, it's a noun, and the second definition is a 'message'. Fancy that. Welcome to the 21st century oldtimer.

  77. killer app by tverbeek · · Score: 1

    At least one of the examples on his web site consists of the insufficiently metaphoric submitter not understanding what the term means. A "killer applicataion" is not "a winning application that will supposedly kill the opposition", but an application that is so great (slang "killer") that it makes the platform it runs on successful. e.g. Lotus 123 (for the IBM PC), PageMaker (for the Mac, Windows).

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    http://alternatives.rzero.com/
  78. For scienticific mumbo-jumbo try.. by ahodgkinson · · Score: 1
    If you want to read something from the messiah of mumbo-jumbo try out Alan Sokal's Transgressing the Boundaries: Toward a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity.

    In 1996 Sokal wrote what was essentially a parody of a scientific journal article, filled with meaningless technical and philosophical jargon. His goal was to demonstrate that academic publishing had fallen victim to the emperor's new clothes syndrome. Sokal was able to get his paper past the peer review of Social Text, a serious academic journal, who published the paper and subsequently suffered great embarrassment when Sokal revealed what he had done. Sokal followed up by writing Transgressing the Boundaries: An Afterword, which explained why he had done it.

    The Social Text Affair caused great controversy in the scientific publishing world.

    Another mumbo-jump king, who, this time, appears to be serious is Francis Fukuyama , who wrote The End of History. Disturbingly, he is an advisor to the American president.

    In the business world, no one's that interested in exposing the hoax of buzzword-speak. I suspect the reason is because impressive sounding, but meaningless, text generally helps you get ahead in business. Hence we end up with mission statements and Dilbert, all of which ultimately, aims to profit from all this silly-ness.

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    ---- It won't be as bad as you fear or as good as you hope, but it will take twice as long as you plan.
  79. "Core Values" by AndyChrist · · Score: 1

    I have figured out several years too late that any organization that has to prattle on about it's "Core Values" in fact has none. At the very least, those values cannot be called "core."

  80. Midair Passenger Exchange by network23 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Midair Passenger Exchange

    Grim air-traffic-controller-speak for a head-on collision. Midair passenger exchanges are quickly followed by aluminum rain.

    1. Re:Midair Passenger Exchange by museumpeace · · Score: 1

      My pilot friends sometimes mention IFR flights that end in an encounter with cumulo-granite.

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      SLASHDOT: news for people who can't concentrate on work or have no life at all and got tired of yelling back at the TV.
  81. BullFighter removes the bull for you by HoneyBeeSpace · · Score: 2, Interesting



    A website and plug-in for Word and PowerPoint that measures the overall readability of your documents. It highlights overused consulting jargon, offering witty comments along the way.

    http://www.fightthebull.com/bullfighter.asp

    Also, for sharing images:
    http://depicto.com/

  82. William Bezanson (WTF) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Presently: The word 'presently' means soon to come, in the near future, and so on. Many people confuse it with 'currently.' So "We are presently in Australia" should more properly be "We are currently in Australia." This misuse is often seen not only in everyday conversation but also in business correspondence. Again, its improper use indicates lazy thinking.

    Same contributor, similarly stupid nitpicking. Again, looking at the dictionary definition we can see that there is a second definition which is "at the present time" or "now". The definition given also adds some detail that the second definition is sometimes disputed, but (to quote the explanation) "this sense has been in continuous use since the 15th century, it is not clear why it is objectionable". So goddamn, this guy is a word quibbler.

    Side-note: I believe it's "lazy thinking" to take such a condescending tone. Ha!

  83. Communication, it's what P.T. Barnum was best at by Progman3K · · Score: 1

    >[...]some companies rely on obfuscation and meaningless text to confuse their customers into thinking they're getting one thing when the proposal says another. Or to lock people into contracts that they didn't understand

    >[...]But those aren't honest. And they don't encourage repeat business, referrals, or customer satisfaction. So in my mind, they don't promote success.

    The problem is that when all the suckers have been duped, the objective has been met.

    Remember, companies using deceptive practices like this may only be shooting for ONE profitable quarter.

    The company can then fold, re-organize or simply start a NEW campaign with different wording that will lead suckers to believe that THIS NEW DEAL is totally different from the LAST DEAL that suckered them so badly.

    With shell games like Gator becoming Claria and then changing their name again to Microsoft, it becomes very difficult for the typical sucker to follow the ball.

    By the time suckers (I mean consumers) have it figured out, the shit has changed colour or smell or consistency, but most suckers won't figure it out until it's (once again) too late.

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    I don't know the meaning of the word 'don't' - J
  84. Euphenisms and Double-Speak by Laebshade · · Score: 1

    It's not a 'problem' or 'fix', it's an 'issue' and 'solution'. It's not 'Coke', 'Cold, refreshing cola beverage'. Just like it's not 'rape', it's 'assisted, consensual sex' (as in 'I engaged in assisted, consensual sex with the willing female, even though she was bound and gagged.').

    Ok bad joke. Hope my wife isn't reading my messages today...

  85. Use of "Resources" by saihung · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I used to be a mid-level manager. I hate listening to people talking about "forces" (did you mean soldiers?) and "resources" (did you mean employees? workers?). I agree with Watson that this kind of talk is deeply dehumanizing.

    So at a monthly meeting, when my boss asked me if I needed more resources to complete a project, I said, "I don't think I need any more coal or lumber for this project. I could use some more people though." I think I nearly got fired that day.

  86. CIA vision? by juan2074 · · Score: 1

    The CIA has been failing to meet its own goals for the past few years.

    1. Re:CIA vision? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Especially since their vision statement is 'to not be betrayed by Karl Rove.'

  87. "Church" link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Following TFL from the original post reveals it's a construction firm that specializes in church construction and renovation, rather than a church.

    Bottom line is, when the name of the game is ecclesiastical space management, mission/vision statements are no-brainers.

  88. "Business Speak" or Weber's "Rationalization"? by joelsanda · · Score: 1

    I think this has more to do with Max Weber's ideas around the rationalization of everything in modernity. The idea that anything is stated, refined, and routinized into a bureaucratic function. At that point, because it's bureaucratic, it also is measurable - and hence incredibly rational.

    The problem, if it really is a problem, goes deeper than "business", I'd argue.

    --
    The Luddites were ahead of their time.
  89. IBM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I interned at a dot com last summer, and didn't really get much of the buzzword bingo going on.

    This summer, I'm interning at IBM, and have decided to make my IBM specific "buzzword bingo" list. Happy playing with this!

    best of breed
    bleeding edge
    (business) process
    buy in
    cell
    customer facing
    emerging business opportunity / ebo
    executive
    face time
    grid
    incentivize
    interface [non technical]
    key
    leverage
    matrix [organization]
    middleware
    meta [whatever that isn't technical]
    on-demand
    painpoint
    paradigm
    pervas ive
    resources (when they mean people)
    services oriented architecture
    silo
    SMB/Small Medium Business
    solution [as a verb]
    synergy
    thought leadership
    time-to-value
    time value of money
    total cost of ownership
    utilize
    value-add
    vertical/horizontal integration
    web application
    "work smarter not harder"
    xml

  90. "Now, as you all know, I'm not here..." by Tim+Browse · · Score: 4, Funny
    For all right-thinking people in the UK, the epitome of this was the character of Gus in Drop the Dead Donkey.

    A couple of my favourites:

    "Could you join me for a brief scuba in my thinktank?"

    "Can we pool our brainspaces in a centre of excellence?"

    More here

  91. The Emperor's New Words by Shannon+Love · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It has been shown in psychology studies that people judge speakers who use longer sentences and who are difficult to understand as more intelligent than people who speak concisely. Especially in the case of authority figures, we tend to assume that the fault lays within our selves for not understanding their novel phrases or convoluted sentence structure. Like the parable of the "Emperor's New Clothes" people are afraid to admit they understand what the authority figure is talking about lest they be mocked by others.

    This phenomenon creates an incentive to create "management speak." People will be less likely to question you if you confuse them. People won't complain about being confused because they fear being called stupid.

    1. Re:The Emperor's New Words by PigleT · · Score: 1

      > lays

      Oops. Try again.

      I prefer lucid content-loaded sentences over length.

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      ~Tim
      --
      .|` Clouds cross the black moonlight,
      Rushing on down to the circle of the turn
    2. Re:The Emperor's New Words by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      It has been shown in psychology studies that people judge speakers who use longer sentences and who are difficult to understand as more intelligent than people who speak concisely.

      Perhaps, but it is still not a way to win friends.

  92. Foundation (Issac Asimov) may remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Everything cancelled out. He said absolutely nothing." after lengthy analysis of what was said by Emporium representative during his visit to Terminus.

  93. It doesn't have to be bureacratic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was once on the ruling body of a church with lots of corporate managers. We had a mission statement, with measureable goals and objectives, and did annual performance appraisals of all the staff. I thought it was silly (largely because I think it's silly at work too). But people do these things because they think (rightly or wrongly) that it is helpful. If it's helpful at work, why wouldn't it be helpful at church? While much of the time it's bureacracy, there's actually something to be said for now and then asking what you're really trying to do. Otherwise you're likely to drift along doing the same thing you did for the last 20 years. This is just as much an issue in churches as in companies. Mission statements and the rest are part of a structure to get people to look at what they are really trying to accomplish and reexamine what they're doing. Unfortunately like any other management tool, if you put them in the hands of bureacrats they become just more bureacray. But it doesn't have to be that way.

  94. A better choice... by shmlco · · Score: 1
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    Any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.
    1. Re:A better choice... by Maxite · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't that be "A Bullshitter's Guide"?

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      Ah, you found me!
  95. Homicide Bombers by t_allardyce · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The word bomber refers to someone who kills with explosives - eg "The Omagh Bomber Faces Charges"

    The phrase suicide bomber refers to someone who kills with explosives but also dies in the same explosion either to evade capture or to make sure the bomb goes off.

    So what are homicide bombers?

    Oh and while we're on the subject, since when did the Department of Defense also do attacks?

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    This comment does not represent the views or opinions of the user.
    1. Re:Homicide Bombers by spitzak · · Score: 1

      I would think "homicide bomber" is where the primary purpose of the bomb is to kill people, while just "bomber" includes ones that are designed to damage or destroy buildings or other objects and any deaths are not the primary purpose. For instance eco-terrorists are typically "bombers" but not "homicide bombers".

    2. Re:Homicide Bombers by Bassman59 · · Score: 1
      "Oh and while we're on the subject, since when did the Department of Defense also do attacks?"

      That department used to be called the Department of War, but it was changed (after WWII, I believe) because "War" implies aggression, whereas "defense" seems more palatable.

      Although with Rummy in charge, it's back to the War Department.

    3. Re:Homicide Bombers by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      Do said 'eco-terrorists' plan to use professional demolition procedures and ensure the area is fully clear of people, and that everyone is warned through adequate signs and loud-speaker messages at least 1 hour before a final check by safety crews, and do they plan to use adequate detonation equipment with guarded switches etc operated by a certified technician? If not then they are endangering lives so you could apply the 'attempted homicide bomber' label.

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    4. Re:Homicide Bombers by spitzak · · Score: 1

      No, of course not. But they are the best example of terrorists I can think of where the goal is not to kill people. They would consider it successful if they blew up an empty building, while a "homicide bomber" would consider that a failure.

  96. You're right, but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think we need to ramp up our knowledge capital until we achieve critical mass in this area before moving forward.

  97. Fired, downsize, rightsize... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am surprised no one has discussed the more insidious cover words... Particularly words that hide layoffs or firings. My company just went through layoffs two weeks back and instead of calling it layoffs they used a new word (new to me at least) 'right sizing'. Apparently 'down sizing' was too negative, but right sizing made everything ok.

    I don't get where management types think if you change the word that this some how changes peoples responses. I wonder if this is how management people think...

    scenerio 1

    Manager: Jim, you have been laid off.

    Jim from Accounts Receivable: Arg, Hulk smash!!!

    scenerio 2

    Manager: Jim, you have been oranged (code word for laid off).

    Jim from Accounts Receivable: Oh... wheew... I don't feel angry or hurt that my family's future is now in jeopardy after twenty years of loyal service to the company! Thanks boss!

  98. Perfect remedy for this problem by gr8_phk · · Score: 4, Funny

    The way to stop this nonsense is cleary to make wildass fun of it in a beer commercial. Remember all those idiots that used to say "what's up" in passing in the hallway? That all stopped after the WWHhhaazzzuuuuup beer commercials. If you make them feel like a jackass on a BEER commercial, they'll stop in short order. Or should I say: If you apply a poor quality rating to the suppliers deliverables in a widely accepted public forum, the resultant reconfiguration of the parameters is likely to change toward a positive outcome.

    1. Re:Perfect remedy for this problem by generic-man · · Score: 1

      There's a Taco Bell commercial running right now in the US that features a pretentious gadget geek boasting that all of his new products are "good to go," and that some new food item from Taco Bell is "good to go" too.

      I used to say "good to go" before that commercial. Now I don't. I do plan to eat three meals a day at Taco Bell for 30 days, though...

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    2. Re:Perfect remedy for this problem by Neoncow · · Score: 1

      Don't forget to film your experience and share it with the world.

    3. Re:Perfect remedy for this problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to say "good to go" before that commercial. Now I don't. I do plan to eat three meals a day at Taco Bell for 30 days, though...

      I think you'll be 'good to go' long before those
      30 days are up.

      Adios and avoid open flames.

    4. Re:Perfect remedy for this problem by Trogre · · Score: 1

      Hey, that really is innovative.
      Who's your 2IC?

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    5. Re:Perfect remedy for this problem by generic-man · · Score: 1

      Who would want to watch an idiot gorge himself on fatty food for a month? Other people who want to feel better about themselves?

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    6. Re:Perfect remedy for this problem by mink · · Score: 1

      I think you will find that you can only eat two meals a day a toxic hell. Sadly they killed off the (much more tasty IMO) breakfast menu back in the mid 1990 era.

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  99. True value of a mission statement by y2imm · · Score: 1

    Working for an aerospace company in Winnipeg once, and a co-worker told me about a performance evalutation-type interview he had with the team leader(s). One of them asked him what he wanted to do within the team, why he wanted to work for the company, or something to that effect. He rolled over his employee ID and recited the mission statement back to the stone-faced interviewers.

    Neither of us stayed long with that company.

  100. When I hear about mission statements... by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

    I tend to think about the British Navy's stated goal for... well, most of the history of the British Navy.

    "Make the world English."

    Now that's a mission statement!

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  101. In case you haven't seen it... by chumpboy · · Score: 1

    Hollywood has already done its own version on this: Crazy People. Great movie for truth in words and advertising.

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  102. The days of the old Cray Research Inc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The day Cray died is the day the slogan changed from:

    The Worlds fastest Supercomputers

    to:

    Creating solutions for world-class challenges.
    (Or something like that.)

    The entire company was built on "Worlds fastest". We used it daily to make development decisions. "Will this make it faster? No. Then don't do it."

    After the change, what could we ask? "Will this improve the potential customer solution? Uh, I guess. Then DO IT!!!" just doesn't cut the mustard.

    1. Re:The days of the old Cray Research Inc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      But you still haven't answered one question:

      Why was the case of the Cray-1 clear?


      Wait for it


      Wait for it







      So you can see more Cray!

    2. Re:The days of the old Cray Research Inc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it was the Cray-2, so you could Seymour Cray

      And so we could have truly floating point functional units!

    3. Re:The days of the old Cray Research Inc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought the C2 had a red case and was taller than the C1. Are you sure about that?

    4. Re:The days of the old Cray Research Inc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah. I have parts from every model of Cray I ever worked on.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray#The_Cray_Researc h_years

  103. Hummmm by a803redman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If a word or phrase "Resonates" and "Gains Traction " with the masses it will force a "Paradigm Shift" and become normal. In the end, it matters not if the Language Elite "reject" these terms, "With all due respect" if some of these folks "Moved on" with their "vision" we would be speaking Latin. I just find it a real "Disconnect".

  104. you are a White male by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 1

    How'd I guess?

    Oh, just a little magic trick I know.

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    1. Re:you are a White male by Danuvius · · Score: 1

      Let me guess: you're an American.

      I cannot imagine another nationality who'd think there is something wrong with describing a situation as "black and white", but think it's okay to call someone a "white male".

      After all, the first term has nothing to do with race whatsoever. Whereas the second one paints dozens of disparate cultures, nationalities, ethnicies, and linguistic communities with a single brush.

      After all, any two White and Black Americans have by FAR more in common, then most randomly chosen two whites (or two blacks, or two asians, etc). Think Bulgarians, Germans, French, Hungarians, Romanians, Poles, Ukrainians, Swedish, Belarussians, Bretons, Maltans, Catalans, Greeks, etc, etc, etc. All have white men. Can you really generalise anything beyond skin-color, err *race*?

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    2. Re:you are a White male by mikefe · · Score: 1

      It doesn't matter.

      Come to the US with light skin and you are the big bad white man.

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      Their: Owned by someone.
      Please make sure your english compiles.
    3. Re:you are a White male by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 1

      actually I am NORTH American - United States. We could go back and forth all day, I bet.

      You can guess my nationality because people are struggling to live good lives in this country because of race - or is it really economics?

      Whatever the case is, I just want people to care about each other. You can't legislate caring, but it's just something I try to promote.

      Language is a powerful tool. When you use racial or gender metaphores like "maiden voyage", you put people down. But you can always use language to improve people's lives. Strive for it!

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    4. Re:you are a White male by Asic+Eng · · Score: 1
      When you use racial or gender metaphores like "maiden voyage", you put people down.

      No you don't. You do put people down when you tell them how to speak.

    5. Re:you are a White male by Danuvius · · Score: 1
      It doesn't matter. Come to the US with light skin and you are the big bad white man.
      Yah...

      Who may well be equally discriminated against by actual Americans of all backgrounds due to accent, differing cultural norms, etc.
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    6. Re:you are a White male by Danuvius · · Score: 1
      actually I am NORTH American - United States. We could go back and forth all day, I bet.

      You can guess my nationality because people are struggling to live good lives in this country because of race - or is it really economics?

      Whatever the case is, I just want people to care about each other. You can't legislate caring, but it's just something I try to promote.

      Language is a powerful tool. When you use racial or gender metaphores like "maiden voyage", you put people down. But you can always use language to improve people's lives. Strive for it!
      While you're stated motivations are admirable. You're proposed method is questionable at best.

      And, to be clear, I can guess you're nationality not because "people are struggling to live good lives in this country because of race - or is it really economics" (wtf?), but because your words make it seem that you are oblivious and/or apathetic to the world outside of NORTH America. (And, like it or not, the term "American" refers to YOUR PEOPLE [US citizens] specifically in most of the world, despite understandable Latin American sensitives.)

      You did conveniently fail to address the actual point of my post. Saying, "the whole matter is black and white" is not offensive to either blacks or whites (and if it were, it would be equally offensive to both groups) than calling someone ignorantly a "white man" with all the implied subtext about racial prejudice, ignorance, hatred, and ancestral slavery connections that go along with that statement.

      You do realise that not all white men's ancestors were involved in slave-trade or slave-ownership. You do realise the great majority of white people's ancestors were peasants who toiled for their "betters'" gain in conditions often little different from slavery both during and for thousands of years before US and European slavery.

      You do realise that a lot of European countries had no colonies, and also did not have racial diversity *at all* until the last 10-20 years (i.e.: no white men oppressing the countries' non-existent african and asian populations).

      So why pray tell is it okay for you to insinuate that white men are ignorant and don't care if they offend others? (This is the mildest interpretation I can make. And the arrogance in question, ironically enough, is rather a stereotypical American trait.)

      At any rate, this whole matter really is black and white... and it's odd that you don't see it, because obviously you are not colour-blind. But then again, maybe it's not so odd you being American and all. I guess for you it's racist to bash minorities (or to utter sentences that sound like they might have something to do with minorities, even though they don't), and stylish to bash American whites while forgetting (as a good American generally does) that most of the world is composed of people very different than you are, regardless of skin-colour).

      So yeah, peace and togetherness... just be aware that your mentality isn't leading in that direction.
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  105. Tech folks do it too... by John+Whorfin · · Score: 1
    I got this little lovely in my inbox last week:


    "Can we login to a Machine running SFTP with encryption and in the DMZ that Rsynchs to a sudo watch folder running on the system box?"


    I initially ignored it as the ravings of a lunatic, but when later asked "were are we on this?" I pointed out that it was gibberish... ..and I got in trouble because I was "rude" by pointing it out.

    Whatever.
  106. Last weekend at a Café by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was biking around and I stopped for a cafeine refuel... decided to drink my cup inside thanks to the nice air-conditioning...

    There was a couple sitting at the table next to mine, the man was elaborating at length on some kind of organisational scheme, using the latest buzzwords. And his female companion seemed impressed!

    Having finished my drink, I stood up and asked the man: "You must work in HR, right?"

    He looked bemused, and said: "Yes. How did you know?"

    I just smiled and left.

  107. "To drill down" by KnarfO · · Score: 3, Funny

    "To drill down" is a well-established idiom.

    ... in the oil exploration industry.


    ... as well as in the adult entertainment industry!

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  108. Bad example by kryocore · · Score: 1

    While I agree that the corporate jargon is excessive, imo, the vision statement is a bad example of such. Everyone needs a vision. Without one, you go nowhere.
    I just think sometimes they overdo it and lose sight of the simple goals or visions. They make it so complicated that you can't understand it. But you still need vision...

    1. Re:Bad example by cyril3 · · Score: 1
      But you don't need to write it down in language that makes you sound like you're trying to cover something up.

      And why do you need to tell people that you are honest, have integrity, are there to serve the customer and believe in excellence? I think there's something a bit suss about a business that has to tell its staff that honesty is a value they should hold.

  109. And this begs the question... by zensufi · · Score: 1

    Other than the word "utilize," the thing I hate the most is the phrase "to beg the question" used incorrectly. To beg the question is a logical fallacy. It occurs when the conclusion of an argument is assumed by the premise. It does not mean "forces me to ask" or "makes me want to ask."

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  110. Mission Statements are a way to avoid Values by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you say you have a specific list of mission goals, you can avoid actually practising the same goals in actual behavior.

    Just more of the downsizing of morality in today's Soviet Amerika.

    Pay attention to what they DO - not what they SAY.

    .

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  111. Translation for non-English majors. by solomonrex · · Score: 1

    "Actually, the correct term is not "weasel words". It's "mustelid lexicography"."

    You don't even know enough English to properly criticize other writers.

    "Strunk and White's _Elements of Style_ is another great guide to writing. It lives its message: the book says to be short and to the point, and so the book is actually short and to the point.It goes from the basics like joining sentences to the principles of composition and clear writing. Anyone who wants to be a writer, whether as a journalist, novelist, or academic, needs to pick up a copy."

    I discovered Strunk & Write, and I'm embarassed that my colleagues haven't.

    "I can't believe that almost got through senior year of college without ever having read this book, which is ridiculous- there's this idea in America that you don't need to learn the rules and basics of your craft anymore, whether its art or writing or whatever- well, that idea is bullshit. I'm all for breaking loose and breaking all the rules, but it helps to know the rules in the first place. And for every one Jack Kerouac who can write brilliant drug-fuelled free-form prose, there are a dozen people who really need to pick up Strunk and White, and Orwell's _Politics and the English Language_ Essay and learn to string two words together (I'm firmly in the second camp)."

    The 60's were a mistake.

  112. Missions have been around a long time by geekee · · Score: 1

    "Does it bother you that churches have a Mission Statement touting their Core Values?"

    Christians have been sending msiionaries to set up missions long before the industrial revolution.

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    1. Re:Missions have been around a long time by DrVomact · · Score: 1
      It bothers me that mission statements are almost never truthful. Instead of "Our mission is to make as much money as possible in the shortest conceivable time", they say something like "We seek to promote customer satisfaction by providing best-of-breed end-to-end seamless integration of enterprise-class solutions to mission-critical needs going forward with our strategic partners".

      It's bullshit, and there is an entire class of people who make their living by producing it. They are called "managers", and they can't think.

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  113. Bullshit Bingo - The Film! by Kyont · · Score: 1

    On IFilm, a very amusing three-minute infomercial for the new Bullshit Bingo game!
    http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/1317509

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  114. Invisible Mission Statements by cirby · · Score: 1

    A couple of years ago, I was working on a corporate meeting, and the company had banners with their mission statement hanging on the walls.

    You couldn't read them.

    I mean, the words were there and all, but you could only get about halfway down the paragraph before you lost the whole train of thought. Ths worried me, so I got some other folks to try and read it. Nobody could actually finish reading the damned thing.

    The language used was so inane that it was impossible to hold in your head...

  115. Buzzwords as Treknobabble by AeroIllini · · Score: 1

    Corporate buzzword speech reminds me of Treknobabble:

    "Captain! A Romulan warbird just decloaked in front of us!"

    "Let's reconfigure the dilithium crystals into a transition matrix so we can force a sub-gamma tachyon anti-matter stream into the reactor core. That should disrupt the space-time fabric, creating a vortex and opening a temporal anomaly. Then we can take the ship through the anomoly to the 20th Century and kill Rick Berman, whose utilization of the value-add paradigm Gene Roddenberry oversighted helped him up-sell the product into a quality-driven deliverable and monetize the vertical market of television scifi."

    "Someone get the doctor! I think the Captain's having some kind of seizure!"

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  116. "Standard Operating Procedure" by Retired+Replicant · · Score: 1

    Translation: "This is the way we would do this if we had the time."

  117. The Adventures of Action Item by PCM2 · · Score: 1
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  118. I have no idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Elephant Dildo seems to annoy epileptics, too.

  119. Clear and consise is right by 2short · · Score: 1

    Even "mission" statements can be OK if they are clear and consise.

    I work for a small company that once came out with a mission statement a page long all about leveraging stuff, and enhancing customers other stuff, and so forth. Layoffs followed shortly thereafter. Though we don't use it officially anymore, we've now returned to the spirit of our very first mission statement, which guided us to great successes: "Make shit happen."

  120. Hey man that's my comic strip! by PCM2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hey all right! Someone beat me to posting it. I am... so touched!

    Anyway, yeah, it is a little ancient, but judging from the response I still get to it, it's definitely still relevant.

    This strip was once printed in the Industry Standard magazine and in PC World New Zealand, of all places. Not to mention that Xerox once used it as a print sample for some of their color printers. But it's mostly known for having "escaped the lab" and been e-mailed to people all over the world.

    And, fear not! I know for a fact that it's pasted on all kinds of cubicles all over the planet. In fact, my boss claims that one of the reasons I was hired at my current job is because of that comic strip.

    (In case you haven't figured it out yet, I'm the guy what drew it.)

    Anyway ... yeah, over the years I have gotten literally thousands of e-mails about it, from addresses all over the place, including countless big-name corporations whom I won't name to protect the guilty. You know who really loves it, though? The government. I've gotten more e-mails from the military, government agencies, and big government contractors like Boeing than I can even count. My all-time favorite is still the guy from NIMA (which I believe is now called the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency ... think spy satellites).

    Even stranger, though, are the e-mails I get from people in countries where English isn't even the native language. Get your head around that one ... they learned English as a second language and they're already familiar with this kind of speech. Now that's just ... sad.

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    1. Re:Hey man that's my comic strip! by starling · · Score: 1

      So, do you have any of those decoder rings left?

      (And thanks for drawing the comic - it made my morning a little brighter.)

  121. My favorite by cfulmer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Donating experienced personnel to the local job market.

    1. Re:My favorite by fingerfucker · · Score: 1

      Hm... and maybe we can even convince the government to give us a tax break for it. Johnson, get right on it!!!

  122. Get the f*** over yourselves.... by Vengie · · Score: 1
    Email: 'The word 'email' or its variants such as 'e-mail' properly describes a system of communication electronically. It does not denote a message. So "I sent you an email" should more properly be "I sent you an email message." One sees this misuse very frequently in business correspondence and informal discussions. Its use reveals lazy thinking on the part of its users.
    Now, I can be a pedant about a LOT of things, but this is just out of control. When you walk into a physical mailroom/post office, "You have mail." Is acceptable.
    Merriam-Webster....help us!
    Main Entry: mail Function: noun Usage: often attributive Etymology: Middle English male, from Old French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German malaha bag 1 chiefly Scottish : BAG, WALLET 2 a : something sent or carried in the postal system b : a conveyance that transports mail c : messages sent electronically to an individual (as through a computer system) 3 : a nation's postal system -- often used in plural

    So if "e-mail" is "electronic mail" then saying "I sent you an email" is entirely acceptable. Anyone saying "I sent you a mail letter" would sound rather silly -- so let's not beat this dead emu any longer.
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  123. Controlling Discourse by Chemosky · · Score: 2, Insightful
    In the corporate climate, the ability to sling some jargon is perceived by some as intelligent and/ or powerful. From a wider perspective, It's been argued any group develops a common discourse. There are numerous reasons:
    • us vs. them (developing a subculture)
    • control (doctors sell the idea of control through their discourse)
    • power (sounding like an "expert")
    • dominance (intimidating through fine use of the jargon)
    The entire way a doctor approaches a patient is designed to give the patient the idea the doctor is in control of the situation. Not being in the medical profession, I've always wondered how they teach doctor patient interaction and if they actually touch on these control issues? Anyway, it's the same in any group, even slashdot has its own discourse, (e.g. troll, trolling, flamebait, karma) and demonstrating control of the language of slashdot can be perceived as intelligent or desirable among the slashdot crowd.

    Scott

  124. All organizations should have a reason to exist by davidwr · · Score: 1

    Every organization should have a reason to exist.

    That doesn't mean they have to put it in writing and plaster it on the walls.

    One more thing - missions can change over time even day to day. As long as the people who need to know what the mission-de-jour is, that's enough.

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  125. Schools and Corporate Speak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I teach at a public high school. Anything we get from the school board is infested with this dreck- stakeholders, ownership, etc. It's like GW's speechwriter is writing this crap!

  126. You don't need to fix anything by PCM2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You don't use the word "fix" because there is no such a thing as a problem. It is a challenge.

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  127. It's not official, but... by Penguin+Programmer · · Score: 1

    I think my company's mission statement is:

    "To preserve inefficiency in the face of great innovation, such that nothing ever needs to change."

    1. Re:It's not official, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "To preserve inefficiency in the face of great innovation, such that nothing ever needs to change."

      I love change ... if its a change for the better.

      Most change I see these days is just make-work.

      It has just about the same appeal to me as someone looking at my old car and noting that I should ream out all the bolts and replace them with Metric bolts.

      I perceive many business executives run that paradigm, whereas technical people tend to evaluate whether or not any real gains are made in exchange for all that work.

      That old car has gotten me around for thirty years. I know it in and out. It will easily outlast ME. However, so you know I am not a complete stick-in-the-mud, I *did* replace the points with an optical pickup and replace the carburetor with a DIY fuel injector, because that change DID give me a SUBSTANTIAL improvement in driveability, fuel economy, and emissions. My car tests the same now on emissions tests as new cars, despite my not having a cat converter.

      Don't tell me I am a luddite and won't change. I will *gladly* change if there is something in it for *me*. But making changes just for the hell of it reeks of that same thing wimmen have forced on me for years - to abandon perfectly good clothes because she thinks they are no longer "in fashion". I consider such behaviour indicative of a heavily overfunded system.

      You can probably tell by my attitudes that I am an older person. One thing I have noted as I have gotten older is things often deteriorate with age. You know, bad teeth, hardening of the arteries, eyesight needing correction, etc. And we have to go to the doctor and get pills and surgeries to compensate for the deterioration.

      As humans age, we get arteriosclerosis, and younger guys who don't have all these obstructions in their circulatory systems are much more agile.

      I note as companies age, they get the same disease, as their corporate structures become plugged with excessive managementization. Not all people "age" at the same rate, and some will succumb to collapse of their metabolic systems far earlier than others.

      Likewise, I see not all corporations age at the same rate. Many companies ( usually funded by investor groups where no-one is responsible for inefficient squandering of resources ) flounder since birth trying to support overburdensome loads of excessive managementization. Others ( usually private ) may go for decades with very little obstructions to their getting things done.

      I have seen this personally - seeing people get older and even though their bodies are far larger, they can't get anything done... and I have watched Corporations overexecutize - grow far larger, but their own "fat" keeps what little muscle they have left from doing any useful work, as its energy is spent trying to work around all the fat.

      When the last large corporation I worked for went on the executization binge, we heavily overmanagementized the organization, which led to lots of meetings, lots of powerpoint presentations, but very little work in the labs.

      It wasn't long before our customers found out they could get the same work done far cheaper by other firms which focused on doing what the Customer wanted done, without supporting burdensome tiers of executive levels. The company died, choking on its own fat.

    2. Re:It's not official, but... by pete6677 · · Score: 1

      Wow, you just described General Motors (also Ford and Chrysler, for that matter).

  128. There you have it, here are some examples. by NRAdude · · Score: 0

    I've been studying this phenomena and find it more applicable in so-called "law enforcement" employees and related agents of a corporate STATE. Examples are;
    id - sometimes pronounce incorrectly as eye-dee, is defined as the unconcious impulses that seek satisfaction with the pleasure principle, or simply defined as declaring the cause of actions. Anyone asking for "id" is actually asking for self-incrimination.
    I-dentification - pronounced with a strong EYE, phonetically in this way it assembles the elements of facial imagery, yet the bias for the purposes of such assembly is construed from statute to statute.
    I-dentify - pronounced with a strong EYE, dimorphically opposed to Identication, as to compel or command the assembly of the elements of facial imagery (action with the suffixed "y").
    identification - phonetically pronounced with a short and near-silent EYE, but id, prefixed or interjected with other words, to express or satisfy an request for unknown action, and set it apart or in duplicate. In the Uniform Commercial Code, is references that such "identification" is for purposes of curing a form or Title unto goods to sell those goods. Similar, but dimorphic to identify, where this declaration is free-form and eminent (domain?) unto a subjected property; not voluntary, but coerced; varies from statute to statute for purposes of incrimation as well.
    resident - defined as a thing(res) known(id) out of(ent) a claim or dispute etc.. On court casefile headers, it tends to be those things in dispute, such as GUN vs SWORD, et al. It appears that a "resident" supposes that people in a dispute are things subject to jurisdiction of superiors; that is a misconception, because a matter of intellect, whereas the names are fixtures in the dispute to be settled as prize or endorsement to whomever prevails from the action. Consider such disputes where seizure of property by United States is the action being tried; those such cases exist in admiralty proceedings from a district court. I distinctly remember one or two cases on the face of a court docket as UNITED STATES vs. ONE 1954 PICKUP TRUCK (or this, and this), and UNITED STATES vs. 4 BARRELS OF LIQUID PURPOTING TO BE WHISKY, or UNITED STATES vs. FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY DOLLARS -- "UNITED STATES" is a thing disputing other things. In this regard, for fraud it seems, because it is misprison to challeng a property (organized theft) instead of whomever owns that property, but the world never seems to operate the way it was thought or intended...

    Many more words I have found to be misplaced or misapplied. Arrest is one of them, notice is another; all abused to commit fraud on others.

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    without prejudice
  129. Currently reading this book by Cybersaint2k · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm a writer and editor who appreciates these sorts of books. On Writing Well, Sin and Syntax, the list goes on. Each one gets a note card and the salient points of each book jotted down (which usually fit on one side of the note card). So far, I have nothing jotted down for DS. What he says that is true is said better elsewhere; what he says that is new is...well, I haven't read that yet. The first 1/3 of the book is quite energetic; I enjoy ranting with him about verb-less rhetoric. But then his rather extreme anti-capitalism and anti-Bush views get tiring. For instance, at the 1/3 point in the book, he asserts that the reason public language suffers is the decline in socialism/government management of business. To him, privatization is the Great Language Satan. I see.... Read E.B. White instead. Read the King James Bible. Awash in simple, profound language, you'll find hope of speaking well and less anger at conservatives.

  130. Where Have All The Intellectuals Gone? by __aaromg1353 · · Score: 1

    Similar topic, interested readers may care to read Frank Furedi's book of the same title. See entry on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/082 6467695/102-9129781-7584100).

    The writing is occasionally rough because it was culled from a series of essays he wrote, but has an interesting rallying call, neverthess.

  131. whats it all about????? by Mungkie · · Score: 1

    I was considering creating a well balanced and thoughtout analysis of the article but couldn't be bothered to read it.

    so instead i will babble incoherently about a case for something based upon some other things:

    1)people don't like bad things.
    2)people do like good things.
    3)life is too complicated to get things right.
    4)people are lazy.

    The development of weasle words and managment speek has evolved from the fact that managers may face a number of bad situations in bussiness:

    1)they maybe unable to understand the the complexitys of a problem.

    2)they may have bad news to give

    3)They may have to justify an action

    In order to conquer these situations they have to use language as a weapon. By making statements that are ambiguous, complicated, and hard to understand they hope to reduce any loss of face, interogation of the facts, etc...

    Most people don't have the time/intelligence/need to decrypt the language and it won't make any difference anyways.

    Unfortunatly capitalism (in fact any heirarchy) is all about the top level making decisions for the lower levels. The top have it good but if your at the top you cannot be seen to be fallible or you loose your position in the heirarchy and that means you must hide your errors and never promise anything you can't produce, whilst at the same time appearing to promise good thing for everyone.

    I really don't care if those at the top are ripping me off, so long as i'm reasonably well off, which most people are in the first world(slashdot) are, so stop whining.

    There has always been technical jargon that people use to protect their positions and profesions.

    It's just that modern information exchange and education makes it a little more noticable and easier to decrypt.

    I listened to the The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy. Whilst developing a transadjunctive superset of newspeak and esperanto, but where did it get me?.

  132. 3% Flamebait? by bleaknik · · Score: 1

    Hey--that's 97% less flamebaity than I was intending!

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    n. 1. The sensation that you've read this very article before.
  133. Offtopic Agreement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    It's nice to see someone express that sentiment. Along the same lines as Orwell's essay is "The Scaffolding of Rhetoric," an unpublished essay written by Winston Churchill when he was a young soldier. You can find the text online. (I think I added a link to Churchill's article on Wikipedia.)

    If you're truly committed, I urge you to really go back to basics. Google for Harvard's Loeb Classical Library imprint. You want to learn how to write? Try Aristotle, "The Art of Rhetoric," and Demetrius, "On Style." You can probably get both via the internet as well, but the print translations are better.

    1. Re:Offtopic Agreement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      (I think I added a link to Churchill's article on Wikipedia.)
      Nope. But it's there now. ;-)
  134. I totally agree by suezz · · Score: 1

    with him - it has gotten out of hand.

  135. It should be about dishonesty by iamnotanumber6 · · Score: 1
    I agree, the web page is a real mixed bag. "Weasel Words" ought to be about things that are basically dishonest. Using "e-mail" as a noun doesn't strike me that way.

    Here's a letter I wrote to the editor of the page:

    Hi -

    On your web page at http://www.weaselwords.com.au/words.htm you list the use of "presently" as a "weasel word":

    "Presently: The word 'presently' means soon to come, in the near future, and so on. Many people confuse it with 'currently.' So "We are presently in Australia" should more properly be "We are currently in Australia." This misuse is often seen not only in everyday conversation but also in business correspondence. Again, its improper use indicates lazy thinking.' [from William Bezanson]"


    This is nonsense. The word "presently" has been in widespread use as a synonym for "currently" since at least the 15th century, while the archaic "soon" sense is much less common now. Who is William Bezanson to say it is "improper" and "lazy"? Does anyone look this stuff up in a dictionary at least?

    Seems to me your site ought to be mainly about phrases and word-usages where people are "weaselling out" of saying something truthful or meaningful. Or, that they use fancy, complicated, or made-up words or uncommon usages, for the sole purpose of trying to sound smart. An example might be the use of the word "spin" instead of... well, what I just said.

    There are quite a number of things on your page that are simply alleged by grammar pedants to be poor english, like the example above, or saying "I'm good" instead of "I'm well", "I sent you an e-mail" instead of "I sent you an e-mail message", and so on. The phrase "anytime soon" wouldn't make sense as "it will happen anytime soon", but it's never used in that sense, only in the negative "it will not happen anytime soon" or interrogative "will it happen anytime soon?"; in both cases a completely rational sentence.

    Also, using "fresh" instead of "new, unused, etc." - this is simply a popular use that has come recently from urban african-american culture (or should I just say "ghetto"?), where there are so many unique phrases and usages that the majority of english-speakers might have difficulty following a conversation. But this does not make them "weasel words" or double-speak.

    Similarly, new sayings that come from business or technology culture are not necessarily weasel words. They may be used to name and talk about things that simply did not exist before. Or, like in other sub-cultures, unique expressions may be a form of solidarity among peers. I believe it only crosses the line when obfuscating language is purposely designed by marketing, management, or "motivation" people in order to manipulate, mislead, or "spin" the plain truth, for the purposes of advertising, sales, employee thought-control, or "corporate image". Unfortunately it seems this is all too common in the world of business, where a "culture of bullshit" seems to prevail.

    I would like to suggest that in choosing words for your page, you might focus on the criterion that "weasel words" should have the particular characteristic of being essentially dishonest, double-speak.

    Otherwise, if you allow listings for general word and grammar misuse, annoying but innocuous phrases - "I'll diary that" - pointless clichés, and just plain stupidity, you'll have a very large web site indeed.
  136. Re:It's fashion. Shallow, embarassing fashion. by mikefe · · Score: 1

    Actually, management speak relates to L337 very well.

    I doubt that L337 will make it to the board room because most hackers don't enjoy the environment and wannabees usually match up to their title.

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    There: Something at a specific location.
    Their: Owned by someone.
    Please make sure your english compiles.
  137. Sexy cellphones? by penguinoid · · Score: 1

    From TFA: Sexy '. I'm fine with it in the right context. But since when could a mobile phone be described as sexy? Their appearance never sends my mind into a high-value sexual arousal state. Unless part of their functionality is to impact on sexual arousal state I cannot see how phones can be called sexy.'

    Apparently, this guy doesn't know that most cellphones can be set to vibrate!

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    Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
  138. Sexy Gadget: Please Die. by perseguidor · · Score: 1

    Of course, some examples are not the best of the best, and some others don't hold up at all.

    Still, I hate the extended (ab)use of 'sexy' with a passion. It devaluates the concept of sexyness, and does so in what I consider is an unnecesary way. There are plenty of other words to say that electronic devices are neat.

    That, and it contributes to the survival of the geek-who-has-no-sex-life image in the real world. You know, the place where a sexy electronic device has to be a vibrator to make sense at all. Not that there's anything wrong with them...

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    1. Re:Sexy Gadget: Please Die. by some+guy+I+know · · Score: 1
      I hate the extended (ab)use of 'sexy' with a passion. [...] There are plenty of other words to say that electronic devices are neat.
      But some sexy electronic devices aren't neat at all.
      In fact, I've seen some sexy electronic devices that are positively scruffy (e.g., the radio telescope dish at Arecibo (sp?), which, the last time that I saw (a picture of) it, looked like it could use a good scrub-down and a new coat of paint).
      Perhaps you meant "cool", but, then again, since the Arecibo (sp?) dish is in Puerto (sp?) Rico, the word "cool" probably doesn't apply, either.

      Wait! I know!
      The Arecibo (sp?) dish is "whack".
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      Those who sacrifice security to condemn liberty deserve to repeat history or something. - Benjamin Santayana
  139. This guy is nuts by penguinoid · · Score: 1

    Among the words he says are weasel words are: Ovenable, Email, Killer application, Opinionnaire, Ramp up, With all due respect. While some of these are obviously not words, their meaning is clear. Anyhow, people can invent words if they feal like it. I was particularly surprised that he insists that you say sending an email message instead of sending an email. As for "with all due respect", that is usually said prior to telling something to someone with all the respect he deserves :-). Although I would agree that obfuscating speach for any reason, including not offending people, is never justified.

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    1. Re:This guy is nuts by cyril3 · · Score: 1
      The words in that list were submitted by readers and not subjected to editorial comment. Watson didn't pick the words or make the comments under the words, the anal idiots who sent them in made the comments.

      Sort of like /. really

  140. non-combatant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are some reports
    of non-combatants in the targeted areas.
    We can't mention any specifics.

  141. no value added. by not-enough-info · · Score: 1
    That sounds more like a crash to me -- and not all crashes are accidental.
    No. A crash would be an "unanticpated and sudden reduction in kinetic energy".
    You still miss the point. It's not "unanticipated"!
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    </stupid>
  142. Building up a language vs. tearing it down by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    ...The counter argument was that it's the jargon of management. Just as programmers talk about arrays in a different sense than a layman, or maybe 'threading' for another example. Buzzwords isn't a problem, it's just the language of management.

    I think that's EXACTLY the problem. Managers don't talk to themselves. They lead with ideas, and understand the problems of others to help organize solutions. If nobody understands what the fuck they are saying, it's not management!


    I think you are on the right track, my problem is that when I use the term "array" as a programmer it's built on a broad base of established behavior and meaning from smaller parts. It's a coalesing of different terms to make a new one.

    When a manager uses a term like "synergy" it is instead of a diffusing of language, creating a new term that means less than the sum of its parts so to speak. The classic management terms seem to all have in common properties that they can mean what the listener likes, instead of something specific - so it's a way of talking where everyone can come to an agreement (because they are all using the same words) without having to actually agree on anything.

    The devil's not in the details, he's in the lack of them - and management terms having no details are inherantly bedeviled. The more upper managemnet refuses to speak plainly the less real vision and thus leadership they are exhibiting.

    A side note is that I think the spread of managemnt speak has come from many middle managers being laid off and going into other professions where they continue the bad habit of using these non-words.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Building up a language vs. tearing it down by pilkul · · Score: 1

      Great post, I think you just captured what's wrong with management speak versus other professional jargon better than anyone else I've seen. Doctor-speak or programmer-speak or math-speak all invent new words to speak more precisely than you can with plain language; management buzzwords are less precise. That said, at least some management jargon is okay. For example, my boss (who is not a buzzword fan in general) just used the acroynm "APAR" today to mean "Accounts-payable Accounts-receivable". That's more precise than just "accounting".

  143. Good quote by EvilStein · · Score: 2, Funny

    "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit."

    How true it is.

  144. Swan song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Absolutely the best of many pithy lines in that essay is:
    The Fascist octopus has sung its swan song.
    I can't even begin to imagine today's equivalent.

    I'm pretty sure it's: "The Iraqi insurgency is in its last throes."

    1. Re:Swan song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that a week, two months or twelve years?

  145. Convenient pressure by stefanb · · Score: 1
    For your convenience: 'Heard on a Virgin flight from Brisbane to Sydney: "for your convenience, the cabin will be pressurised". How about, "so you don't die, the cabin will be pressurised" or just, "the cabin will be pressurised"?

    I can see where they're coming from: very few people realize that at normal crusing altitude (average 33,000 feet), when the cabin depressurises, you have about 20 seconds to get that oxigen mask set up for you to breathe through.

    Ever wondered why you should help yourself first, and then any "children accompanying you"? Because if you help them first, you'll be unconscious before you can effectivly help them.

    I don't agree hiding these facts from the passagengers is a good idea, but corporate communications is rather concerned with "making people feel good"...

  146. That's not realistic though by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    For a company, the act of creation of a vision statement comes at the start when they are forming.

    Now yes it's true that organizaions are built to make money. But to distill down a companies goals to that is not realistic as that is not why MOST people start businesses.

    A mission or vision statement should be really short, like a word or two at most. But it should describe what the company is about OTHER than making money, as that is merely a prerequsite for the company to even exist. Usually people starting a business see a need they wish to address, and money is just a byproduct of filling that need. If it were not so we'd all just be bank robbers.

    As the poster said, the goal is to write a statement to make a company do the same general thing regardless of who is in charge. So really at the heart of things writing a mission statement is like programming where the processor to run the instructions is other humans. Since it's impossible to logically describe to other humans without further refinement what to do, your best bet is to describe a direction as shortly as possible and then lead by example in the direction you want a company to be led even after you're gone. Googles "Do No Evil" is an example of this, it describes areas of behaviour the founders do not want the company to go in and even though it sounds meaningless is probably a better and more effective mission statement than 99% of mission statemnets out there.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:That's not realistic though by CmdrGravy · · Score: 1

      In an ideal world you'd be right and maybe there are some companies who do have sensible visions, mission statements and core values, Google is a good example of one of them.

      There are far far too many companies out there now who are doing their best to undermine the principles companies like Google are upholding by publishing mission statements, visions and values which have absolutely no meaning or relevance to the way the company operates.

      The only defining attribute of a company is that it is formed to make a profit for it's shareholders, everything else is transient and subject to alteration without notice. Examples of this are companies which form in one area of business and end up in a different type of business altogether.

      For things like mission statements to have any value at all and not just be statements of the blindingly obvious there has to be some mechanism of ensuring that the principles espoused are actually carried through and we need to have someone other than the marketing departments assurance that that is the case.

      As an example I have worked for 2 companies who have both had "Honesty" as a core value, as if there are other companies out there in the world who pursue a overt course of dishonesty.

      Interestingly at least one of these companies was anything but honest in some of it's dealings with it's customers which was amusing for everyone at the yearly get togethers when the "Core Values" were plastered up in Powerpoint.

  147. Cargo-cult management by wiml · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think of this as "cargo-cult management". (Check wikipedia if you're not familiar with cargo cults.) People notice that many successful companies have a coherent core values and missions and whatnot, and certain kinds of documentation and processes, and decide that those things cause success, when in many cases it's much more likely that some third quality is causing both success and the observable "cargo" of mission statements.

    1. Re:Cargo-cult management by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Love it, great term for it.

      The fatal flaw of mission statements and core values lists are their obviousness. You are always going to put things on them that everyone will agree are nice values and a noble mission. Making a list of them has probably zero impact on the actual behavior of employees or the company. They are always things like:

      - Honesty
      - Integrity
      - Treat customers and coworkers with respect
      - Work hard
      - Have fun, if thats possible when you are working hard 80 hours a week

      They are usually regurgitation of basic ethics and good behavior. Unfortunately having these things in spades will have zero effect on your success if you still have no products or services people want to buy, or your prices are to high.

      If you make a must have product, people will buy it even if you are obnoxious SOB's with no core values. SGI proved this. They had some spectacularly obnoxious sales people, and they engaged in outrageous price gouging on commodity parts like disks, memory and CD drivers, but back in the day you had to have one to do animation or to run other killer 3D apps that only ran on SGI's, so they were wildly successful even when they had no recognizable core values, other than get rich on their options.

      Microsoft exactly the same. I don't think Microsoft has any recognizable core values, they are about grinding up competitors and cementing their monopoly. They too are often extraordinarly obnoxious, arrogant and comtemptuos of customers. But if you buy a computer you will find it hard to not buy their product, core values be damned.

  148. Oh, bull-fucking-shit by mbius · · Score: 1

    It's inconsistent with the corporation's fiduciary responsibility (look that one up, it's a real thing) to act in that manner. That is to say, if a corporate leader does things because "it's the right thing to do for the world/the customers/the industry", rather than "it makes more money for the stockholders and exposes the corporation to less risk", then they violate that responsibility.

    At best, that violation is unethical. At worst, it's criminal.


    You're arguing from ethics for deliberate intellectual dishonesty. That ridiculous contradiction in terms can be applied to any sociopathic business practice from dishonest accounting to doctored safety reports.

    There's more to ethics than what's good for me and mine. According to your notion of "fiduciary responsibility," slavery is ethical. I will not stand for doubletalk whereby "right thing to do" is "criminal" and "makes more money" becomes unqualified good.

    I remember the recent story of Equifax whining that consumers are entitled by law to a free credit report provided perhaps by some other agency. They reason that this utterly sensible right treads on their "fiduciary responsibility" to sell the same information to the same consumers. So apparently anything short of a monopoly on the market becomes criminally unethical, as a competitor with better prices is invariably taking food out of their children's mouths.

    Set your "fiduciary responsibility" on fire and cram it up your ass. That you do otherwise violates my responsibility, as CEO of Jargon & Lighters Inc., to deliver profit to my shareholders.


    I, uh...wasn't really using that karma.

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  149. Dilbert's Mission Statement Generator... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  150. Lest we forget... by djupedal · · Score: 1
    ...one of the major reasons this type of crap comes about, is due to MS's PowerPoint. Where BASIC has ruined more programmers than lack of sleep, PP has ruined more imaginations than acid.

    This tweak at it, from off the 'net, of course, is a good example:

    Little Red Riding Hood

    At a previous but undetermined timeframe, a single-family domestic domicile was inhabited by a young girl, known as Little Red Riding Hood (LRRH), and her Maternal Parent (MP). The Maternal Parent (MP) had once provided for the fabrication of an article of clothing, a cloak in nature (including a "hood" or protective covering for the head of the wearer), that was RGB code [255,0,0] in hue (aka, "red"). As a result of this action, and the resultant repeated usage of the "hood", the young girl was always known as LRRH in substitution for the name identified on her birth certificate and other identifying documentation.

    During one 24-hour interval, a request was issued by the MP for LRRH to deliver a package to the MP's Maternal Parent (MPMP) (genealogically identified as the Grandmaternal Unit (GU) with respects to LRRH). This package was to include:

    • cheesecakes
    • fresh butter
    • one dozen (12) strawberries

    ...visit the link for the full bleeding.

  151. A problem. by g2devi · · Score: 1

    > Mission: We will serve our customers with (1)
    > top-quality service, (2) good advice and (3) fair
    > business practices.

    Here's a problem, what does "top quality service" mean? If the customer wants a mouse, does it mean that you will hand-deliver the mouse, go into the customer's home, plug it in, and install drivers (if necessary)? That's top quality service, but it would also cost a fortune....or you'll have to go out of business.

    The key problem with your mission statement is that it's one sided. We all want to be saints and serve the customer, but remember that even Mother Teresa had to eat. Deep down we know this, so we tend to be wishy-washy about what "top quality" means, and give lip service to a mission statement that we don't *really* follow.

    Here's how I would adjust it.

    Mission:
    "We will serve our customers with (1) high-quality service, (2) good basic advice and (3) fair business practices. If the customer is willing to compensate the effort or if the customer is good enough, we will provide them with (1) top-quality service, (2) high quality advice"

    It's more humble and less inspirational, but it's something that you can actually use to make decisions and achieve. As a consequence, it's more believable to you or your customers.

  152. Weasel words by Oshkoshjohn · · Score: 1

    Corpspeak and cellphones on belt loops. These people are so easy to identify. Why are any of them still alive?

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  153. Orwell wrote at length about this sort of thing by mr_tenor · · Score: 1

    http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/O/ OrwellGeorge/essay/politicaandenglish.html

    "It becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts."

    "This mixture of vagueness and sheer incompetence is the most marked characteristic of modern English prose, and especially of any kind of political writing. As soon as certain topics are raised, the concrete melts into the abstract and no one seems able to think of turns of speech that are not hackneyed"

  154. What Bothers Me About The Churches... by istartedi · · Score: 1

    ...is that not one of them will say "we're pro gay rights" or "we believe homosexuality is a sin" or "90% of our congregation is Republican" or "We are 90% Democrats". Instead, you have to read between the lines to figure out stuff like that. Sometimes you can do it based on stuff you know about their denomination. Obviously, MCC is pro-gay and anything in the Grace Network that exists in my native Virginia is Conservative Evangelical.

    But virtually *none* of their websites will make an explicit stand on any of the issues that are relevant to modern Christians. Why would that be? The cynic in me recalls that bit in the Simpsons where they pan to the preacher counting the money. They want you to come in at least once and find out. They want you to sample their wares. They are totally corporate (most of them) in that regard, and worst of all, they are afraid to offend.

    That's totally not what authentic Christianity is all about.

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    For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
    1. Re:What Bothers Me About The Churches... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...show me the money...that's what it's all about...

      salvation, damnation, ,heaven, hell, etc, etc...thats just the hook to bring in the big bucks...

  155. Perhaps bad mission statements were a problem... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I agree there are many companies today that are pretty much valueless and rudderless. But part of that is because they accept mission statements so bland they could be involved in anything from running a fishery to making stands for Hummel figures.

    I think for most of those businesses, there was probably a person or two at the very start that had a clear idea of what the business was to do. But because they never figured out how to tell anyone direction after some time was lost.

    I agree with you that having "honesty" in a mission statement is a bad sign, as it's something to strive for... saying honesty is part of the vision implies it's something they need to work on. So perhaps in the end it is really honest to have it in there as a warning sign!

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  156. good one by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

    Energetic Deconstruction -- Explosion (especially of a mechanical device)

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  157. Read this book! by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

    I'm actually about half-way through Death Sentence at the moment.

    The book is a crack-up from start to finish. There are no chapters, and it reads like one long rant. You should read this book if only for its historical importance: this book will help bring the art of the rant to serious non-fiction books where it belongs, instead of being confined to Usenet posts and blog entries.

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  158. Co-opetition by JhohannaVH · · Score: 1

    we've all got to just co-operatively compete in deciding on a I think is the word you are looking for! :P © Darryl Waltrip

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  159. Re:don't you mean lysdesia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week :)

  160. AMEN! by Narcocide · · Score: 1

    (can i get a second?)

  161. Doonesbury == crap by crucini · · Score: 1

    I agree, except I must have missed the good years. Every time I saw that thing, I reread it to make sure I wasn't missing the point. No, it was as stupid and pointless as I thought.

    But then, I think all newspaper comics are utter crap, except for Dilbert. They all leave me wondering how someone with at least one neuron firing bothered to create something so inane.

  162. What a crock by Lithus · · Score: 1

    Email: 'The word 'email' or its variants such as 'e-mail' properly describes a system of communication electronically. It does not denote a message. So "I sent you an email" should more properly be "I sent you an email message." One sees this misuse very frequently in business correspondence and informal discussions. Its use reveals lazy thinking on the part of its users.

    What, I'm suposed to call it an email message? An electronic mail message? say "I sent you a message using electronic mail? ".
    Sounds like something he would complain about. The word email as a verb and a noun is quite acceptable, and has no correlation to what the speaker is thinking, but because he says so we are supposed to stop using it? Please. This guy needs a reality check, or at least stop being such a hippocrite. He is a nitpicker and nothing more. What makes the word Currently more valid than Presently? English is a language with many synonyms that have very subtle differences, but most of the time can be substituted, if for no other reason to make the language more interesting, and I see nothing overtly wrong with that.
    Sorry, but this guy just pisses me off.

  163. Right on by einhverfr · · Score: 1

    I would invite people who think that Bush is stupid to read that carefully and then listen carefully when he speaks

    About those Moolahs in Iran (who have all the money?)

    About those new-killer weapons in Iran, N. Korea, etc.

    Almost any time W mispronounces a word, he does so in a way which brings it close to another word which brings in the connotations he wants.

    This is usually done subtly enough that most people assume that it is just a different dialect of English or a stupid mistake but it is being done deliberately in ways to specifically control people.

    Now....

    My business doesn't have a mission statement. We have a vision, (all businesses must) but any articulation of that vision takes more than a few sentences. We have a strategy. This could probably be summarized in a paragraph. In other words we know what we want to do and what effect we want to have on the world around us, but we don't want to articulate it in a meaningless and/or limiting way.

    BTW, my religious practices often require that I formulate complex ideas into short formueic statements. I have no problem doing this. I just won't let my business be identified by one.

    Also, when we look at formuleic languages of ancient religious traditions (BTW, a good "introductory" book on the subject is "How to Kill a Dragon" by Calvert Watkins), it is not at all like modern marketingspeak. Modern marketingspeak relies on the ability of language to sound impressive while saying very little. The elder traditions were the opposite-- saying a lot in a few words in ways that were often seemingly unremarkable otherwise (with some allowances for meter and alitteration). In their case, the formulas were merely indexical references to a much larger body of work. The closest thing we have to such ancient language today is legalese (disclaimer: IANAL).

    In contrast weasle words are all smoke and mirrors. Businesses can't survive on smoke and mirrors, and lies told to oneself are the most damaging of all.

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    1. Re:Right on by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      We have a vision, (all businesses must)

      All businesses?

      I think many very small businesses (think the local Chinese restaurant on the corner) have a "vision" that consists mostly of "Nothing will ever change, and we'll be here forever".

      Which is completely legitimate, in my view.

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    2. Re:Right on by einhverfr · · Score: 1


      I think many very small businesses (think the local Chinese restaurant on the corner) have a "vision" that consists mostly of "Nothing will ever change, and we'll be here forever".


      I was thinking more along the lines of:

      "People in our neighborhood will be able visit our nice little restaurant and eat chinese food."

      That is as valid a vision as any.

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      LedgerSMB: Open source Accounting/ERP
  164. SGI, mission statements by crucini · · Score: 1

    Thanks - that was interesting. However, you seem to imply that a successful company can't have any non-obvious values. I will argue that Microsoft has at least one: "eat your own dogfood". By taking the short-term pain of using their own horrible products, they've enjoyed long-term gain, as feedback inside the company will be better informed and better heard than outsider feedback.

  165. Good rule of thumb summary by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Your summary I think provides a good guideline between useful speech and buzzwordeze - does it define something more precisely than other words? If so then it's OK, otherwise it's just fluff. Certainly even though acronyms like the one you mentioned can sound really funny when you rattle off a string of them (I work in the telco industry which has them all over) but in the end it really is a quicker and more exact use of words.

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  166. Irony by ta+bu+shi+da+yu · · Score: 1

    "Watson, once a speechwriter for former Australian prime minister Paul Keating..." - need I say any more?

    Paul Keating used to be a master at NEVER ANSWERING A DAMN THING when asked straight questions, and has been emulated by both sides of the Australian political spectrum ever since.

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  167. Huzzah! by serutan · · Score: 1

    Personally I've been waiting for this ever since I first heard "time frame" back in 1979.

  168. Quaalityyy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    cutting edge leading and advancing top qualityyyy, there's no quality like our quality, qua qua qua qualityyy

  169. the problems of power by Stu+Charlton · · Score: 1

    It strikes me that people use non-words as a way of hinting a direction to those who want change, and providing a form of plausible deniability to those forces that are against change.

    This isn't restricted to business either; arguably government (civil service or military) is worse! Power politics exist in all human organizations and the basic dynamics have not changed in centuries. Even democratic systems don't change this base level of politics. Perhaps all that's changed are the value systems that drive courtship: from gaining favour with the sovereign to gaining favour with your boss and worshipping a narrow view of economic theory...

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    -Stu
  170. Sunday Comics and Political Commentary by some+guy+I+know · · Score: 1
    My sunday newspaper has Dilbert in the frontpage. I remember the days when a kid could wake up sunday morning and have only Garfield and other innocent comics.

    Nah, we also used to have that godawfulpiece of tripe "Doonesbury", though.
    When I was a kid, we had Walt Kelly's "Pogo" and Al Capp's "L'il Abner" for incisive political satire.
    "Doonesbury" and "Dilbert" both suck in comparison.
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    Those who sacrifice security to condemn liberty deserve to repeat history or something. - Benjamin Santayana
  171. Accountability = blame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are several things to remember here. First, it is safe to say that accountability and actual responsibility in the sense of having created the mess, don't actually share an office a lot of the time. Second, you know there's a cover-up going on when there is talk of increased accountability and no one is getting any blame. That means that they are trying to spread it widely enough that no one (important) gets hurt.

  172. Nothing new here, move along by rfc1394 · · Score: 1
    The comments about the deprecation of language are not new and I remember at least one other book on the subject within the last 5 years or so.

    The (mis)use of language to conceal or to change what one is saying in order to make something less unpleasant, more palatable, or to out-and-out decieve is something that has been going on since Caesar was watching gladiators in the Colliseum. Let's consider some fairly recent examples.

    • The military's reference to a lost nuclear weapon as a broken arrow
    • Referring to casualties of war due to your own side shooting your people as friendly fire
    • The Reagan Administration wanted to define 'ketchup' as a vegetable in an attempt to reduce how much is spent on school lunches
    • Their attempt to refer to a tax increase as revenue enhancement
    • Bill Clinton claiming that a woman performing felatio on him was not having sex with her
    • The statement by the proposed head of the CIA that he would not politicize intelligence gathering, then after he's approved he sends a memo out to CIA staff ordering them not to make pronouncements that are different from White House policy.
    Lots of times people use words to obscure the truth. Nothing new here and hasn't been new in 2500 years. As my tagline below indicates.
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  173. Some companies know biz-speak sucks: by museumpeace · · Score: 1
    From my Dr. Dobbs Ai expert newsletter e-mail:
    I wonder whether Bullfighter, Deloitte's freeware program for detecting buzzwords, uses Bayesian filtering? Deloitte discovered a direct linkage between clear business talk and good business performance. In examining Enron's communications during its last three years, they found that as Enron began to sink, its press releases, financial reports, letters to shareholders, and speeches by top executives, became increasingly laden with ambiguous words and sentences.
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  174. Not Weasel Words by acerminaro · · Score: 1

    I too cringe at the overuse of jargon, jibberish and lifeless babble. There is only one problem. The examples used are not "weasel words."

    As explained in a Manila Times article, "weasel words"...are "words that suck the life out of the words next to them, just as a weasel sucks the egg and leaves the shell."

    "Weasel words are those terms or phrases we deliberately slip into the language to create the illusion of truth. They do no great harm when they simply take the form of "may," "might," "could," and "should," which are polite hedges for commitments we really don't intend to keep ("I should be there if plans don't miscarry.")...

    Weasel words likewise come in handy in the face of uncertainty or inadequate information. We rescue our faltering or floundering arguments in formal writing or discourse with such artful modifiers as "it may seem likely that," "but the possibility also exists," and "to a certain degree," as in this statement: "It may seem likely that, as claimed by my usually reliable sources, that the information presented by my political opponent is possibly misleading to a certain degree."

    Lawyers are particularly fond of weasel words. A well placed "substantially" or "material" or "may" or "should" may give your client the opening needed to win an argument.

    When asked "What are the "weasel words" you dislike most?" the author of the book being promoted, responds:

    "Implemented." You'll see implemented everywhere. In this language, you "implement" rather than speak or do. And then there is enhanced. Everything is being enhanced. That word is being used in place of other more precise and descriptive words. You can enhance your marriage or your job. You can even implement your enhancements. And "input" is another good one. Companies talk about "input into our people." This reflects technology and accounting [ideas]. It all has to do with input and outcomes.

    It may all have to do with input and outcomes, but it has nothing to do with "weasel words."

    For a more complete response see my post at http://bizzbangbuzz.blogspot.com/2005/07/attack-of -weasel-words-not.html