What are you doing to prevent the new generation of more sophisticated search engine spammers- spammers that use advanced software such as WebPosition Pro, spammers that feed fake pages to the Google crawler, spammers that make bogus link pages to their own sites? Doesn't this new level of sophistication on their part mean that in large part Google must emphasize human website reviewers, such as those provided by the Open Directory Project, to a greater degree?
I visited the site, and this is what it says here. I'm posting it in case the site gets slashdotted. [And I'm not a karma whore since I already have 50.]
U.S. Denies Data Retention Plans
The Justice Department refutes claims that Internet service providers could be forced to spy on their customers as part of the U.S. strategy for securing cyberspace. By Kevin Poulsen, Jun 19 2002 12:24PM An early draft of the White House's National Strategy to Secure Cyberspace envisions the same kind of mandatory customer data collection and retention by U.S. Internet service providers as was recently enacted in Europe, according to sources who have reviewed portions of the plan.
But a Justice Department source said Wednesday that data retention is mentioned in the strategy only as an industry concern -- ISPs and telecom companies oppose the costly idea -- and does not reflect any plan by the department or the White House to push for a U.S. law.
In recent weeks, the administration has begun doling out bits and pieces of a draft of the National Strategy to technology industry members and advocacy groups. On Tuesday, sources who had reviewed segments of the plan said a federal data retention law is suggested in a section written in part by the Justice Department.
The comprehensive strategy is being assembled by the President's Critical Infrastructure Protection Board, headed by cyber security czar Richard Clarke, and is intended as a collaborative road map for further action by government agencies, private industry, and Congress.
While not binding, proposals that find their way into the final version of the National Strategy would likely have added weight in Congress, and could lead to legislation.
A controversial directive passed by the European Parliament last month allows the 15 European Union member countries to force ISPs to collect and keep detailed logs of each customer's traffic, so that law enforcement agencies could access it later.
Data to be gathered under the European plan includes the headers (from, to, cc and subject lines) of every e-mail each customer sends or receives, and every user's complete Web browsing history. The period of time that the data will have to be retained is up to each member country; specific legislative proposals range from 12 months to seven years, according to Cedric Laurant, policy fellow at the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), which opposed the directive.
"Somebody could see their past for the last seven years be completely open," says Laurant, speaking of the European directive. "It violates freedom of speech," as well as the legal principal that a defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
The White House did not return phone calls on the National Strategy, which is scheduled for release in September.
Now that a copyright infringement suit has been settled, maybe the RIAA could agree to stop its illegal actions of price gouging and acting as a trust? And maybe they could stop bribing politicians as well?
Do you have any idea how many entities receiving profits have.org domain names? To try to take these domains would result in a HUGE amount of ICANN disputes and an EVEN BIGGER number of investigations. There is no way the regulatory group could possibly ensure they were all non-profit without using a gigantic budget, would would drive up the administration costs significantly, driving up registration costs. We could be talking $50 or $100 per year for the.org domain names, minimum. Which would lead to many of the non profit groups leaving for a cheaper area.
Plus, it never was written in the charter that it needed to be non-profit, just that it was a domain for organizations that anyone could register. It is common practice to have non profit sites on.org names but there are many with profits, and restricting it to non profit sites would be wholly unfair to entities that have established website domains, decreasing their site traffic and decreasing business greatly.
While some people might like a non profit domain name, and I won't argue for the merits of that, the fact is that.org is well established as a TLD for anyone, and the costs to implement and enforce a non profit rule would drive administration costs through the roof.
Actually, Mozilla had a 7/10 on their rankings, the same thing they gave to IE. And they noted how it was faster than IE. I'd like to see some other evidence of them being "M$ whores." I don't like MS, but I like actual evidence instead of baseless accusations and name callings (The $ in MS is just getting old).
I think that if they considered security as well, Mozilla would beat out IE, but ignoring security and standards (both of which Mozilla beats out IE at) the browsers would be similar.
Maybe it's just me though not wanting to give internet servers capabilities to read my entire hard drive (see jscript.dk).
What are you talking about, free and fair elections? The people elected don't hold power. I think you are a troll or a joker anyways, linking to places like The Onion and anti Dubya sites. I agree with those in principle but I don't agree with fooling people.:-)
Over at this area of map.net there is something even better- a web directory represented as physical locations located on parts of Antarctica (and the site also has the domain name antarcti.ca for its services). It uses data from the Open Directory Project, formerly GNUhoo, a directory that is somewhat open and is a better one than Yahoo's directory, and one that Google uses in large part to find relevant results.
Not using faulty technology is a great idea! Now all they need to do is repeal the law taking away school or library aid if they don't use filter technology, since the filters don't have open lists of sites and often block sites they shouldn't and don't block sites they should!
this is a potentially troubling development, hopefully something will be done if prices skyrocket, of course windows prices did and nothing happened except a wrist slap
You have to think about this...are they filing for the money or will they open it? If they believe in linux as a principle of their company they won't prevent anyone else from using it, but if they simply want to make shareholders happy they might charge for it.
We can hope that like previous expensive luxuries, e.g. jet travel and ocean cruises, the wealthy will pull the prices down to a level reachable by the rest of us."
Just think about that again...many millions of people realistically want to go on space shuttles, and the cheaper it is the more want to go. But, look at supply. There is a very limited supply of space trips, with only 2 having been taken as of yet. High demand plus high supply would drive prices up, not down as the article suggests. Plus, it is very expensive to go into space and to build space shuttles, so I doubt it would go down/that/ significantly. It takes large amounts of energy to go into space and the shuttles won't want to copy the X-Box strategy of taking losses because there is no software to sell.:-)
Actually, this is EXACTLY the kind of tactics they like to use. Have you seen this article? They tried to get a law passed to hack someone's PC.
Cigarette companies kill millions of their own customers, Enron executives steal everyone's requirement accounts, and mostly these type of companies get off scot free. Not to mention all the investment advice companies with conflicts of interest, telling people to buy then selling after the price goes up, or vice versa.
Of course, with all the lobbyists and lawyers and paper shredders, it's not like anything would come of this.
If you have WINE that indicates that you have a Windows license. Why not just use a dual boot with Windoze? Agreed, Micro$oft is highly evil and Linux should be used in most cases, but this is just one case where it makes more sense to use Windows than Linux. When you have specialty software that is high quality and the vendors aren't informed enough to port their programs to real OS's, if you want the software you should use the OS.
Better yet, vote with your money. Don't buy Quicken, because it only works on a crappy OS.
Yep, that surely is one of the most widely held misconceptions about the Internet that I have seen. But usually they are non profit, out of habit, and.com's are more desirable for businesses.
/. didn't reveal any information about the episode, and people who ahven't seen it yet won't click through the link. There are plenty of good reasons for criticizing slashdot, you should wait till those happen, instead of making up excuses.
You have to be joking. I dislike MS just as much as everyone else here but MS Office is the "standard" and most people will use it regardless of price. I doubt many will switch over to StarOffice.
The advertising companies DO make money on their ads, regardless of the actions of one or two people. His actions are already factored in. What's wrong with being a free rider anyway? Let all the other people be the idiots. You are arguing the arguments of a communist, saying everyone should work hard, when in fact there is no compelling reason to listen to all the ads. Many ads treat the viewers as idiots, so why should they be viewed?
Heh, pay the fair share? I tune out advertising except for the few funny or well done ads, which I enjoy. I don't buy products as a result of it though, and most of the ads I tune out in my mind. Oddly enough, the advertisers seem to think that advertising helps, so there must be somebody out there who the ads take in.
And no, I don't have to pay my fair share. It's my right to ignore the ads just as it's their right to show them, so ignore them I do. They get their money somewhere, and I'll let all the other advertising drones subsidize my viewing.
Amidst all the crap there are a few good shows. Family Guy and Futurama were two hilarious shows, Family Guy perhaps one of the best ones ever written, and those aren't going anywhere...oh wait. Well, there are still a few good shows that haven't been cancelled, like Frasier, Spin City, The Daily Show, etc. The TV is also good for news if you don't mind bias from AOL-news, MS-news, or conservative-news (foxnews) and the fact that the people on those shows are getting dumber (they are also looking better...coincidence? at least they can read the teleprompters)
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What are you doing to prevent the new generation of more sophisticated search engine spammers- spammers that use advanced software such as WebPosition Pro, spammers that feed fake pages to the Google crawler, spammers that make bogus link pages to their own sites? Doesn't this new level of sophistication on their part mean that in large part Google must emphasize human website reviewers, such as those provided by the Open Directory Project, to a greater degree?
As Bismarck once said, "Nothing is confirmed until officially denied."
I deny that I have tens of billions of dollars in Microsoft. (-:
No seriously, I don't.
Not that there's anything wrong with it. :-)
I just try to write good comments when/where they will get noticed, so that I have the greatest impact on the greatest # of people, that's all.
I visited the site, and this is what it says here. I'm posting it in case the site gets slashdotted. [And I'm not a karma whore since I already have 50.]
U.S. Denies Data Retention Plans
The Justice Department refutes claims that Internet service providers could be forced to spy on their customers as part of the U.S. strategy for securing cyberspace.
By Kevin Poulsen, Jun 19 2002 12:24PM
An early draft of the White House's National Strategy to Secure Cyberspace envisions the same kind of mandatory customer data collection and retention by U.S. Internet service providers as was recently enacted in Europe, according to sources who have reviewed portions of the plan.
But a Justice Department source said Wednesday that data retention is mentioned in the strategy only as an industry concern -- ISPs and telecom companies oppose the costly idea -- and does not reflect any plan by the department or the White House to push for a U.S. law.
In recent weeks, the administration has begun doling out bits and pieces of a draft of the National Strategy to technology industry members and advocacy groups. On Tuesday, sources who had reviewed segments of the plan said a federal data retention law is suggested in a section written in part by the Justice Department.
The comprehensive strategy is being assembled by the President's Critical Infrastructure Protection Board, headed by cyber security czar Richard Clarke, and is intended as a collaborative road map for further action by government agencies, private industry, and Congress.
While not binding, proposals that find their way into the final version of the National Strategy would likely have added weight in Congress, and could lead to legislation.
A controversial directive passed by the European Parliament last month allows the 15 European Union member countries to force ISPs to collect and keep detailed logs of each customer's traffic, so that law enforcement agencies could access it later.
Data to be gathered under the European plan includes the headers (from, to, cc and subject lines) of every e-mail each customer sends or receives, and every user's complete Web browsing history. The period of time that the data will have to be retained is up to each member country; specific legislative proposals range from 12 months to seven years, according to Cedric Laurant, policy fellow at the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), which opposed the directive.
"Somebody could see their past for the last seven years be completely open," says Laurant, speaking of the European directive. "It violates freedom of speech," as well as the legal principal that a defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
The White House did not return phone calls on the National Strategy, which is scheduled for release in September.
Now that a copyright infringement suit has been settled, maybe the RIAA could agree to stop its illegal actions of price gouging and acting as a trust? And maybe they could stop bribing politicians as well?
Do you have any idea how many entities receiving profits have .org domain names? To try to take these domains would result in a HUGE amount of ICANN disputes and an EVEN BIGGER number of investigations. There is no way the regulatory group could possibly ensure they were all non-profit without using a gigantic budget, would would drive up the administration costs significantly, driving up registration costs. We could be talking $50 or $100 per year for the .org domain names, minimum. Which would lead to many of the non profit groups leaving for a cheaper area.
.org names but there are many with profits, and restricting it to non profit sites would be wholly unfair to entities that have established website domains, decreasing their site traffic and decreasing business greatly.
.org is well established as a TLD for anyone, and the costs to implement and enforce a non profit rule would drive administration costs through the roof.
Plus, it never was written in the charter that it needed to be non-profit, just that it was a domain for organizations that anyone could register. It is common practice to have non profit sites on
While some people might like a non profit domain name, and I won't argue for the merits of that, the fact is that
The Deliverator is never late.
Oh. Good point.
Actually, Mozilla had a 7/10 on their rankings, the same thing they gave to IE. And they noted how it was faster than IE. I'd like to see some other evidence of them being "M$ whores." I don't like MS, but I like actual evidence instead of baseless accusations and name callings (The $ in MS is just getting old).
I think that if they considered security as well, Mozilla would beat out IE, but ignoring security and standards (both of which Mozilla beats out IE at) the browsers would be similar.
Maybe it's just me though not wanting to give internet servers capabilities to read my entire hard drive (see jscript.dk).
What are you talking about, free and fair elections? The people elected don't hold power. I think you are a troll or a joker anyways, linking to places like The Onion and anti Dubya sites. I agree with those in principle but I don't agree with fooling people. :-)
Over at this area of map.net there is something even better- a web directory represented as physical locations located on parts of Antarctica (and the site also has the domain name antarcti.ca for its services). It uses data from the Open Directory Project, formerly GNUhoo, a directory that is somewhat open and is a better one than Yahoo's directory, and one that Google uses in large part to find relevant results.
Not using faulty technology is a great idea! Now all they need to do is repeal the law taking away school or library aid if they don't use filter technology, since the filters don't have open lists of sites and often block sites they shouldn't and don't block sites they should!
this is a potentially troubling development, hopefully something will be done if prices skyrocket, of course windows prices did and nothing happened except a wrist slap
GNU
You have to think about this...are they filing for the money or will they open it? If they believe in linux as a principle of their company they won't prevent anyone else from using it, but if they simply want to make shareholders happy they might charge for it.
Actually, this is EXACTLY the kind of tactics they like to use. Have you seen this article? They tried to get a law passed to hack someone's PC.
Cigarette companies kill millions of their own customers, Enron executives steal everyone's requirement accounts, and mostly these type of companies get off scot free. Not to mention all the investment advice companies with conflicts of interest, telling people to buy then selling after the price goes up, or vice versa.
Of course, with all the lobbyists and lawyers and paper shredders, it's not like anything would come of this.
If you have WINE that indicates that you have a Windows license. Why not just use a dual boot with Windoze? Agreed, Micro$oft is highly evil and Linux should be used in most cases, but this is just one case where it makes more sense to use Windows than Linux. When you have specialty software that is high quality and the vendors aren't informed enough to port their programs to real OS's, if you want the software you should use the OS.
Better yet, vote with your money. Don't buy Quicken, because it only works on a crappy OS.
Yep, that surely is one of the most widely held misconceptions about the Internet that I have seen. But usually they are non profit, out of habit, and .com's are more desirable for businesses.
/. didn't reveal any information about the episode, and people who ahven't seen it yet won't click through the link. There are plenty of good reasons for criticizing slashdot, you should wait till those happen, instead of making up excuses.
Sorry but XBL already made that joke in this comment, nearly three hours before you did.
Have you tried Debian Linux? aptget your updates, just one command!
You have to be joking. I dislike MS just as much as everyone else here but MS Office is the "standard" and most people will use it regardless of price. I doubt many will switch over to StarOffice.
Heh. Think before you speak.
The advertising companies DO make money on their ads, regardless of the actions of one or two people. His actions are already factored in. What's wrong with being a free rider anyway? Let all the other people be the idiots. You are arguing the arguments of a communist, saying everyone should work hard, when in fact there is no compelling reason to listen to all the ads. Many ads treat the viewers as idiots, so why should they be viewed?
Heh, pay the fair share? I tune out advertising except for the few funny or well done ads, which I enjoy. I don't buy products as a result of it though, and most of the ads I tune out in my mind. Oddly enough, the advertisers seem to think that advertising helps, so there must be somebody out there who the ads take in.
And no, I don't have to pay my fair share. It's my right to ignore the ads just as it's their right to show them, so ignore them I do. They get their money somewhere, and I'll let all the other advertising drones subsidize my viewing.
Amidst all the crap there are a few good shows. Family Guy and Futurama were two hilarious shows, Family Guy perhaps one of the best ones ever written, and those aren't going anywhere...oh wait. Well, there are still a few good shows that haven't been cancelled, like Frasier, Spin City, The Daily Show, etc. The TV is also good for news if you don't mind bias from AOL-news, MS-news, or conservative-news (foxnews) and the fact that the people on those shows are getting dumber (they are also looking better...coincidence? at least they can read the teleprompters)