Ok, I'm actually going to respond to a braindead anonymous troll post. You could have at least claimed to be a member of "GNAA" or some such pathetic bunch of annoyances with feet. Just in case you are really a moron:
1) First, you actually seem to support the idea that politicians should be able to write laws regulating technologies and industries that are always evolving and that said politicians know nothing about. Dumbass.
2) If you put your site on the net, it might get slashdotted. Oh, you didn't plan for that? Dumbass.
3) Go fuck off and play somewhere else. If you are a spokesman for "one of the aggrieved parties", you are even dumber than that post would suggest. You didn't create this technology. You also don't know how this magical new shit called the internet will eventually be used for good or evil; in fact, you know a hell of a lot let less than your clients.
Final verdict: you are either a troll or a lawyer. In either case, you know nothing about technology or how it might shape the way future societies communicate. You, sir, are a dumbass. That is not your fault, some people are born that way. Find a good paralegal to keep up with the real and changing world for you or shut the fuck up. Of course, politicians can be even dumber than you. Even worse, some of those wind up in office. Keep it up, get in bed with Longhorn, and count the hours until the internet gets forked after Palladium goes live.
Fucking dumbass. People like you are the people that evolution eats. Sorry to be blunt, I'm having a bad night, but that is the deal as I see it. Even if it is undiplomatic to say so.
Final word... if you are not actually a GNAA troll (they seem be the most annoying the past couple of days) get yourself an account and post an intelligent rebuttal explaining why old men who think the internet is AOL or whatever their grandkids put on their machine should be allowed to write laws that regulate said network. Then give us all your take on fair use. Just curious, really.
Here's what I've been doing for years. I have folder on my drive with a very suggestive name. Looks like porn... a few really good videos, some nice pic series, a few porn games, the usual stuff but fairly high quality. This folder is sure as hell not in any area that the webserver or anything else connected to the web should be able to touch, it is in a fake user's directory. The last few.exe files on the list are not porn games, though. At least that's not all they are. They've had some rather nasty viral code (not in the GPL sense) wrapped into them. The only way those files will ever be accessed is if the box has been compromised or I really screw up running as root (which would corrupt my logs, but otherwise do nothing since the box is *nix). Those files have been accessed once. I screwed up and didn't apply a patch I should have. The script kiddie, on the other hand, went off the radar a few minutes after those "special" files were downloaded. Yeah, I had to rebuild the machine to be safe (faster then figuring out how much damage the little fucker did and I really didn't care who he/she/it was), but at least I got some satisfaction out of it:) Now, this part is of course purely hypothetical, but maybe something like this could be used to "poison the well" on those PTP networks the RIAA is trying to monitor. There are.exe compression programs out there that do a GREAT job of convincing antivirus software that a piece of software doesn't REALLY contain something like, say, Chernobyl. If you run MS shit on your box (or have a gaming box running MS like I do), give it a try for your own amusement. Then, when you're done, give the hype about "sandboxes" and "heuristics" some thought. Of course, script kiddies don't always run antivirus software, but why not be thorough? Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
I love the layout,but the damn things only last six months (if you're lucky). The Natural Elite also has the distinction of being the only keyboard I've ever had that emitted smoke when it failed. Upon dissection, I found that the circuit board had a large hole burned in it under the leds. Yeah, it is nice to use, but the quality is all MS. We have had similar problems at work (all of them failed in less than a year, out of about 50 we bought). I'd look elsewhere if you want an ergonomic keyboard.
The original post was obviously modded by managers:) Ok, I probably came off as bitter, but it was not a troll. It happened as written. The project was completed, literally five minutes under deadline (it would have been 45 minutes early, but our TOKEN RING network was acting up and management wanted 3 paper copies before getting on the plane. Then the main copier started shredding everything B-size, so we had to use the copier in the mailroom. This is also what actually happened. The project was not just a fiasco, it was a nightmare. To all you college kids about to graduate: This is what happens when your management requests and then ignores input. This is what happens when management refuses (after repeated requests) to actually load and use the software you are trying to use to solve a problem. This is why you should always investigate the turnover rate at any company you are considering. Remember, it works both ways: You are trying to convince them that they should hire you, and they should be trying to convince you that they are a good place to work.
Are you referring to your earlier reference about smoking up before posting? I nickel is half of a dime, a nickel bag is half a dime bag. Just remember dime == 2 x nickel:)
Have you even heard the latest Madonna album? It blows goats. No, it's worse than that. She is redefining herself again... meaning ripping off the worst of everyone in the top 40 and mashing it all together into one steaming pile of shit. I'm not at all surprised she's asking that the whole thing be bought at once. Anyone over 12 would download one song, listen to half of it, and think "damn, I'm glad I only wasted a dollar".
No, they don't need anymore help. Overkill is always good, however. I wouldn't want to fight an enemy that had better weapons, better training, and no need for sleep. However, you have to remember that military "mind-altering" experiments have not had a pleasant history. Remember BZ in Vietnam? Who the fuck thought that giving soldiers bad streaks of acid while in combat was a good idea? Hopefully there are no people like that in our military today, but I wouldn't want to bet on it.
I have had one NDE experience, and hope I don't have another anytime soon. I wouldn't have known if the doctor hadn't told me. Then again, since I just blacked out maybe that doesn't qualify as an "experience". And since it was "near", I obviously have no idea what would have happened had the situation been just a little worse. Still, I'm pretty skeptical of people claiming these sorts of things... maybe some brains hallucinate when near death and others don't. That's my guess.
The odd thing about the drawings in the article is that they were of DOGS, not cats, and the text of the article never mentions doing a cat drawing after the machine was off. If those were supposed to be cats then all of the drawings were horrible.
Well put. Especially the non-productive class part. Although you have to admit that some of them have been generating a lot of work for the LAWYERS lately. Religion as an institution is a parasite on society. Religion as a personal belief system my actually be a good thing if a shapes a persons moral system in positive way. Religion isn't bad, organized religion IS. Some people are gullable and stay, independent thinkers walk away with a REALLY bad taste in their mouth.
No, I'm not the boss... I've just learned how the system works. You work for a company for five years, and unless you advance VERY quickly new hires will be making more money than you. THAT is salary compression. You change jobs every 4-5 years, it's the only way to get a decent raise and keep pace with the recent graduates. Which means the company loses your experience, time and training. If you ask about salary compression, they will say that that don't have a choice. They have to be competitive hiring college graduates. Which does nothing for you. Nada. Zip. So, you move into management if that's your thing and you're really not that good at your current job, or you jump ship if you are good. For more money as a new hire. If you are good at what you do and you want a raise and you don't want to move into management your only option is to CHANGE COMPANIES in my experience. What does your manager do? He writes email and makes powerpoint presentations all day. In essence, he (or she) is a secretary for the people actually getting the work done, even if he relays new work instructions from on high on occasion. This is why managers suck once they become managers and get sucked into company politics.
There was no room... parts had to start coming off the line in a month or we lose the job. I tried to give myself a weeks padding:) And yeah, "she's gonna blow". Not my call. Upper management shouldn't try to set deadlines (read micromanage) if they are going to ignore input from the people being tasked with the projects. Once that mistake is made , productivity goes to hell and your employees don't give a shit. Your consultants also view management as serious shitheads after such an incident, which will make it harder for management to get deals. Note to all the CEOs and managers out there: Things like this are proof that you are really not needed. We need you to be a spokesman, go play golf for charity, whatever. But if every time you "get involved" and make a decision things fuck up, why is that? Oh, you listened to your "yes men" managers. Who don't know shit either and who can't keep up because they are "busy managing". Your managers don't want to play hardball, they want to play teeball and keep your yes-men happy so you still have your golf buddies. When hardball is required, and people get run over because they won't do their jobs but still want a say, the person that did the work is called "verbally abusive" in a management meeting. Yes, of course someone got told they were a useless dumbass and got run over... Is that bad? I don't think so. I'm hoping a manager reads this and it hits a little close to home. A lot of companies are going to lose, or are losing, their best people. Their experience goes with it. Can your yes-men get the job done? You don't know, do you?
It sounds like you are dealing with people who have issues already. Hence the self-defence advice: Grabbing someone by the nuts and yanking hard puts them on the ground NOW. Of course,this only works if they are male and not on something like PCP. This works much better than you would think, as the average asshole would never expect you to try it. It beats breaking your hand on some moron's chin, but YMMV.
Simple... learn to do something no one else can, and charge what the market will bear. Work for yourself, and not a corporation. If you need startup money and have to give someone or a corporation a cut, do it. Make your own money, take your own risks... only other option I see.
Fuck certifications. They don't mean a damn thing other than that you sat through class. I need people that are GOOD at what they do. I entirely agree about changing careers, though... I've done it once already, and am seriously thinking about doing it again. The only way to stay happy for me is to keep moving... avoiding salary compression is a nice side affect, though.
Managers DONT get it. I was told a couple of days ago: "OK, to complete the project you need time and hardware. I understand this". (The project requires a little more that 600 Mhz PIIIs with 32 meg video card and a half gig of ram. The project is also pointless. And I need another week. Management was told this up front). Response? "For political reasons, you can't have the time you need. Yes, I know you said it would take three weeks working twelve hour days and weekends, but I agreed to two. I can't change that. And I can't buy decent hardware... you'll just have to wait five minutes every time you rotate the model. Maybe you could bring some fast computers from home... we'll just make you a domain admin and let you set up your own subnet. No, I don't know what subnet means, MIS can't do what you need done and said to let you do it yourself."
That, unfortunatly, was what happened. In real life. This week. And I'm sure it's not just my company. When managers get in over their heads, bad things happen. Moral of the story? NEVER give a manager a demo solution to a complex problem and let them run with it. You will be buried in consultants (double-buried by IBM, although they at least bury you in competent people who won't let you get your work done). You will get some free lunches out of IBM, but your life will quickly become hell once management starts experimenting with an idea that they don't understand. And when it doesn't work because manangement doesn't understand where the problem areas of implementation are, you will get blamed. Don't stick your neck out, kids. Even if you know the answer, don't raise your hand. Let some other dumbass do it.
I KNOW you couldn't care less about public housing. I have to live next to it while it rots. And riots. And robs. And mugs. And reproduces. You are saying that "OK, we fucked up urban planning. Artificial ghettos suck, we put them in the wrong place, oh well. Tough shit. NOW we're after health care and social security". And I'm supposed to think that the liberals will do a better job with health care than they did with welfare? Tell you what, you liberals fix the messes you have made already, and figure out how to the criminals to do what you tell them (like turn in all those guns they have illegally) and THEN maybe the country will give you another shot at fixing things. Voters, like myself, are concerned about issues. You should address those issues, even if that "it's politcally incorrect" thing in your brain starts to protest. And no, I'm not a Republican, I'm a libertarian.
You "give the poor more money" types never fail to amuse me either. I pay about 25% in income tax. Then I pay the state. Then I pay property tax. And fuel tax. And when I spend money to actually fucking buy something, I spend 6% tax plus the 1% local option tax. Then I have fees because of energy regulation, which I consider to be a tax as well since it costs me money and was the government's idea. I would get an exact figure, but I really don't want to relive the yearly tax time nightmare. I would guess, however, that US taxes are pretty fucking close to Sweden. It's just spread out so that you don't complain and boot your congresscritter out of office. It's the system that's broken, not the economy. I'm guessing you're a wet behind the ears 22 year old housewife in a picket fence house in a "gated community" if you really think raising taxes would do ANYTHING good. Bleah. Enough of this. Arguing with liberals on Slashdot is a waste of electrons.
Those riots had nothing to do with the economy. In the past 100 years, most riots in this country have been either motivated by race or been anti-war. The LA riots were race, pure and simple. We're not as advanced a society as we think we are when one group of have-nots (who never tried very hard to be anything else, and don't give me any bullshit about "roadblocks") attack a group who are percieved as being rich. To fix the problem you need to reduce the number of have-nots, and you won't do that with government money and programs. You need fucking culture change in the housing projects. A friend of mine did a gig with National Geographic documenting life in those aforementioned projects here in Savannah. A 16 year old girl told her that she was TRYING to get pregnant because she was mad at her mom and wanted her own apartment. THAT'S what you need to fucking change. And you won't make those people change by making excuses for their culture (which the liberal welfare society helped create) or by giving them more money. I don't even know that it CAN be fixed.
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Ok, I'm actually going to respond to a braindead anonymous troll post. You could have at least claimed to be a member of "GNAA" or some such pathetic bunch of annoyances with feet. Just in case you are really a moron: 1) First, you actually seem to support the idea that politicians should be able to write laws regulating technologies and industries that are always evolving and that said politicians know nothing about. Dumbass. 2) If you put your site on the net, it might get slashdotted. Oh, you didn't plan for that? Dumbass. 3) Go fuck off and play somewhere else. If you are a spokesman for "one of the aggrieved parties", you are even dumber than that post would suggest. You didn't create this technology. You also don't know how this magical new shit called the internet will eventually be used for good or evil; in fact, you know a hell of a lot let less than your clients. Final verdict: you are either a troll or a lawyer. In either case, you know nothing about technology or how it might shape the way future societies communicate. You, sir, are a dumbass. That is not your fault, some people are born that way. Find a good paralegal to keep up with the real and changing world for you or shut the fuck up. Of course, politicians can be even dumber than you. Even worse, some of those wind up in office. Keep it up, get in bed with Longhorn, and count the hours until the internet gets forked after Palladium goes live. Fucking dumbass. People like you are the people that evolution eats. Sorry to be blunt, I'm having a bad night, but that is the deal as I see it. Even if it is undiplomatic to say so. Final word... if you are not actually a GNAA troll (they seem be the most annoying the past couple of days) get yourself an account and post an intelligent rebuttal explaining why old men who think the internet is AOL or whatever their grandkids put on their machine should be allowed to write laws that regulate said network. Then give us all your take on fair use. Just curious, really.
Here's what I've been doing for years. I have folder on my drive with a very suggestive name. Looks like porn... a few really good videos, some nice pic series, a few porn games, the usual stuff but fairly high quality. This folder is sure as hell not in any area that the webserver or anything else connected to the web should be able to touch, it is in a fake user's directory. The last few .exe files on the list are not porn games, though. At least that's not all they are. They've had some rather nasty viral code (not in the GPL sense) wrapped into them. The only way those files will ever be accessed is if the box has been compromised or I really screw up running as root (which would corrupt my logs, but otherwise do nothing since the box is *nix). Those files have been accessed once. I screwed up and didn't apply a patch I should have. The script kiddie, on the other hand, went off the radar a few minutes after those "special" files were downloaded. Yeah, I had to rebuild the machine to be safe (faster then figuring out how much damage the little fucker did and I really didn't care who he/she/it was), but at least I got some satisfaction out of it :) Now, this part is of course purely hypothetical, but maybe something like this could be used to "poison the well" on those PTP networks the RIAA is trying to monitor. There are .exe compression programs out there that do a GREAT job of convincing antivirus software that a piece of software doesn't REALLY contain something like, say, Chernobyl. If you run MS shit on your box (or have a gaming box running MS like I do), give it a try for your own amusement. Then, when you're done, give the hype about "sandboxes" and "heuristics" some thought. Of course, script kiddies don't always run antivirus software, but why not be thorough? Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
Same thing with Africa... I would have to update all that useless information (to me) every time there was a tribal squabble.
I love the layout,but the damn things only last six months (if you're lucky). The Natural Elite also has the distinction of being the only keyboard I've ever had that emitted smoke when it failed. Upon dissection, I found that the circuit board had a large hole burned in it under the leds. Yeah, it is nice to use, but the quality is all MS. We have had similar problems at work (all of them failed in less than a year, out of about 50 we bought). I'd look elsewhere if you want an ergonomic keyboard.
So does Catia, which is IBM's high end modeling software. Reason? You NEED more than two gigs of RAM if you're going to model a 707.
No, it still works. Click faster. Or see an earlier post for scripts to do it for you :)
The original post was obviously modded by managers :) Ok, I probably came off as bitter, but it was not a troll. It happened as written. The project was completed, literally five minutes under deadline (it would have been 45 minutes early, but our TOKEN RING network was acting up and management wanted 3 paper copies before getting on the plane. Then the main copier started shredding everything B-size, so we had to use the copier in the mailroom. This is also what actually happened. The project was not just a fiasco, it was a nightmare. To all you college kids about to graduate: This is what happens when your management requests and then ignores input. This is what happens when management refuses (after repeated requests) to actually load and use the software you are trying to use to solve a problem. This is why you should always investigate the turnover rate at any company you are considering. Remember, it works both ways: You are trying to convince them that they should hire you, and they should be trying to convince you that they are a good place to work.
Are you referring to your earlier reference about smoking up before posting? I nickel is half of a dime, a nickel bag is half a dime bag. Just remember dime == 2 x nickel :)
Have you even heard the latest Madonna album? It blows goats. No, it's worse than that. She is redefining herself again... meaning ripping off the worst of everyone in the top 40 and mashing it all together into one steaming pile of shit. I'm not at all surprised she's asking that the whole thing be bought at once. Anyone over 12 would download one song, listen to half of it, and think "damn, I'm glad I only wasted a dollar".
No, they don't need anymore help. Overkill is always good, however. I wouldn't want to fight an enemy that had better weapons, better training, and no need for sleep. However, you have to remember that military "mind-altering" experiments have not had a pleasant history. Remember BZ in Vietnam? Who the fuck thought that giving soldiers bad streaks of acid while in combat was a good idea? Hopefully there are no people like that in our military today, but I wouldn't want to bet on it.
I have had one NDE experience, and hope I don't have another anytime soon. I wouldn't have known if the doctor hadn't told me. Then again, since I just blacked out maybe that doesn't qualify as an "experience". And since it was "near", I obviously have no idea what would have happened had the situation been just a little worse. Still, I'm pretty skeptical of people claiming these sorts of things... maybe some brains hallucinate when near death and others don't. That's my guess.
I agree. It's interesting to see the damage that can be done by a micro-managing CEO. Even if the micro-management is occasional.
The odd thing about the drawings in the article is that they were of DOGS, not cats, and the text of the article never mentions doing a cat drawing after the machine was off. If those were supposed to be cats then all of the drawings were horrible.
Well put. Especially the non-productive class part. Although you have to admit that some of them have been generating a lot of work for the LAWYERS lately. Religion as an institution is a parasite on society. Religion as a personal belief system my actually be a good thing if a shapes a persons moral system in positive way. Religion isn't bad, organized religion IS. Some people are gullable and stay, independent thinkers walk away with a REALLY bad taste in their mouth.
Localroger also wrote a great series about this on K5 (he was a member of the original group).
I am moving to working for myself, and it's working so far. Never be bet on anything but yourself, and then look at the odds real careful:)
No, I'm not the boss... I've just learned how the system works. You work for a company for five years, and unless you advance VERY quickly new hires will be making more money than you. THAT is salary compression. You change jobs every 4-5 years, it's the only way to get a decent raise and keep pace with the recent graduates. Which means the company loses your experience, time and training. If you ask about salary compression, they will say that that don't have a choice. They have to be competitive hiring college graduates. Which does nothing for you. Nada. Zip. So, you move into management if that's your thing and you're really not that good at your current job, or you jump ship if you are good. For more money as a new hire. If you are good at what you do and you want a raise and you don't want to move into management your only option is to CHANGE COMPANIES in my experience. What does your manager do? He writes email and makes powerpoint presentations all day. In essence, he (or she) is a secretary for the people actually getting the work done, even if he relays new work instructions from on high on occasion. This is why managers suck once they become managers and get sucked into company politics.
There was no room... parts had to start coming off the line in a month or we lose the job. I tried to give myself a weeks padding :) And yeah, "she's gonna blow". Not my call. Upper management shouldn't try to set deadlines (read micromanage) if they are going to ignore input from the people being tasked with the projects. Once that mistake is made , productivity goes to hell and your employees don't give a shit. Your consultants also view management as serious shitheads after such an incident, which will make it harder for management to get deals. Note to all the CEOs and managers out there: Things like this are proof that you are really not needed. We need you to be a spokesman, go play golf for charity, whatever. But if every time you "get involved" and make a decision things fuck up, why is that? Oh, you listened to your "yes men" managers. Who don't know shit either and who can't keep up because they are "busy managing". Your managers don't want to play hardball, they want to play teeball and keep your yes-men happy so you still have your golf buddies. When hardball is required, and people get run over because they won't do their jobs but still want a say, the person that did the work is called "verbally abusive" in a management meeting. Yes, of course someone got told they were a useless dumbass and got run over... Is that bad? I don't think so. I'm hoping a manager reads this and it hits a little close to home. A lot of companies are going to lose, or are losing, their best people. Their experience goes with it. Can your yes-men get the job done? You don't know, do you?
It sounds like you are dealing with people who have issues already. Hence the self-defence advice: Grabbing someone by the nuts and yanking hard puts them on the ground NOW. Of course,this only works if they are male and not on something like PCP. This works much better than you would think, as the average asshole would never expect you to try it. It beats breaking your hand on some moron's chin, but YMMV.
Simple... learn to do something no one else can, and charge what the market will bear. Work for yourself, and not a corporation. If you need startup money and have to give someone or a corporation a cut, do it. Make your own money, take your own risks... only other option I see.
Fuck certifications. They don't mean a damn thing other than that you sat through class. I need people that are GOOD at what they do. I entirely agree about changing careers, though... I've done it once already, and am seriously thinking about doing it again. The only way to stay happy for me is to keep moving... avoiding salary compression is a nice side affect, though.
Managers DONT get it. I was told a couple of days ago: "OK, to complete the project you need time and hardware. I understand this". (The project requires a little more that 600 Mhz PIIIs with 32 meg video card and a half gig of ram. The project is also pointless. And I need another week. Management was told this up front). Response? "For political reasons, you can't have the time you need. Yes, I know you said it would take three weeks working twelve hour days and weekends, but I agreed to two. I can't change that. And I can't buy decent hardware... you'll just have to wait five minutes every time you rotate the model. Maybe you could bring some fast computers from home... we'll just make you a domain admin and let you set up your own subnet. No, I don't know what subnet means, MIS can't do what you need done and said to let you do it yourself." That, unfortunatly, was what happened. In real life. This week. And I'm sure it's not just my company. When managers get in over their heads, bad things happen. Moral of the story? NEVER give a manager a demo solution to a complex problem and let them run with it. You will be buried in consultants (double-buried by IBM, although they at least bury you in competent people who won't let you get your work done). You will get some free lunches out of IBM, but your life will quickly become hell once management starts experimenting with an idea that they don't understand. And when it doesn't work because manangement doesn't understand where the problem areas of implementation are, you will get blamed. Don't stick your neck out, kids. Even if you know the answer, don't raise your hand. Let some other dumbass do it.
I KNOW you couldn't care less about public housing. I have to live next to it while it rots. And riots. And robs. And mugs. And reproduces. You are saying that "OK, we fucked up urban planning. Artificial ghettos suck, we put them in the wrong place, oh well. Tough shit. NOW we're after health care and social security". And I'm supposed to think that the liberals will do a better job with health care than they did with welfare? Tell you what, you liberals fix the messes you have made already, and figure out how to the criminals to do what you tell them (like turn in all those guns they have illegally) and THEN maybe the country will give you another shot at fixing things. Voters, like myself, are concerned about issues. You should address those issues, even if that "it's politcally incorrect" thing in your brain starts to protest. And no, I'm not a Republican, I'm a libertarian.
You "give the poor more money" types never fail to amuse me either. I pay about 25% in income tax. Then I pay the state. Then I pay property tax. And fuel tax. And when I spend money to actually fucking buy something, I spend 6% tax plus the 1% local option tax. Then I have fees because of energy regulation, which I consider to be a tax as well since it costs me money and was the government's idea. I would get an exact figure, but I really don't want to relive the yearly tax time nightmare. I would guess, however, that US taxes are pretty fucking close to Sweden. It's just spread out so that you don't complain and boot your congresscritter out of office. It's the system that's broken, not the economy. I'm guessing you're a wet behind the ears 22 year old housewife in a picket fence house in a "gated community" if you really think raising taxes would do ANYTHING good. Bleah. Enough of this. Arguing with liberals on Slashdot is a waste of electrons.
Those riots had nothing to do with the economy. In the past 100 years, most riots in this country have been either motivated by race or been anti-war. The LA riots were race, pure and simple. We're not as advanced a society as we think we are when one group of have-nots (who never tried very hard to be anything else, and don't give me any bullshit about "roadblocks") attack a group who are percieved as being rich. To fix the problem you need to reduce the number of have-nots, and you won't do that with government money and programs. You need fucking culture change in the housing projects. A friend of mine did a gig with National Geographic documenting life in those aforementioned projects here in Savannah. A 16 year old girl told her that she was TRYING to get pregnant because she was mad at her mom and wanted her own apartment. THAT'S what you need to fucking change. And you won't make those people change by making excuses for their culture (which the liberal welfare society helped create) or by giving them more money. I don't even know that it CAN be fixed.