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My wild stab in the dark is that the IBM sticker on the bottom means it's a Thinkpad. Plus the fact that it's a fcuking thinkpad in shape, color, and IT'S A THINKPAD!
my problem with rechargables has always been figuring out where I left the charger, which has invariably moved by the time the batteries run dry.
Not trying to invalidate your point, but you could try mounting tape. Or nails. Or duct tape. Sticky things are boon to the scattered.
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Seriously, does anybody else remember burning through a case of AA batteries before they even got the hang of NBA Jam or Mortal Kombat? I got my Game Gear for Christmas when I was 7 or 8, and as soon as I pointed out to my parents that my rechargeable batteries lasted something stupid like under 4 hours, they called Sega up and tag-teamed their way up the customer service ladder until Sega overnighted me a battery pack.
In the red corner, Screamin' Mom is teamed up with Tells-You-Exactly-How-Much-F'ing-Money-He's-Gonna- Waste-On-Batteries-Every-Year Dad! I was so proud of them.:-)
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And next-gen's hot coffee scandal has begun. How long do you think it will take for someone to make a bootleg game that...ahem... "uses" the wiimote in such a way?
Oh man, oh man, oh man. The sex toy dongle: "Finally, a dongle worthy of the name." Is there going to be a publicly available cheapo game API they release so you can program your Wii? That would be wicked!
Then the Wii really WOULD be for the whole family, including your creepy uncle.
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I live with 7 other people, and we have a shared food fund, which overflows into a house fund, and I'm totally going to lobby that we purchase a Nintendo Wii with it. I have only ever purchased (or my household purchased) an NES, a Gameboy, and a Game Gear (with its whopping 14-second battery life), and yet I am called to this glorious machine.
My four-point argument for the Nintendo Wii:
1. Legend of Zelda with sword-swinging. 2. Metroid Prime with controls that rival PC controls. (Oooooh! A slogan: "Metroid Prime: get inside Samus") 3. 4gb flash memory for under $50. 4. $250
I however do not really like any of the Mario Kart sequels nearly as much as the original. So yes, Nintendo can break my heart. Will they? I hope not. I don't even think it probable.
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To quote Parent: To quote The Daily Show:
Short answer: no.
Long answer: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
I would like to point out that the problem with kiddie porn is not watching it, rather producing it. If all production of kiddie porn and sex with children went away, and people continued watching kiddie porn, I think the world would be ok. Other than the fact that I've stumbled across a few kiddie porn pictures in my life, and that shit's disturbing, fucked up, and wrong.
Really, with these people they just think up whatever crazy bullshit argument they know they can get 50%+1 of the country riled up over, and go to town. I think I should get a job doing this, becuase I think I would be great at it. Observe:
1. If you don't give me your rights, PEOPLE WILL FUCK CHILDREN. 2. If you don't give up your guns, SNUFF FILMS WILL BE MADE IN YOUR BACK YARD. 3. If your neighbors are wearing high-top tennis shoes and getting all emo and stop buying meat, THEY ARE SATAN WORSHIPPERS. 4. If you're not a Bush-supporter, YOU'RE A COMMIE NEO-NAZI JEW.
I think I have a fair grasp on it. When do I get my first job? If you don't hire me, YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE UNABLE TO DISCERN WHICH HALF OF THE SENTENCE IS THE IMPORTANT PART, AND THEREFORE WILL MISS ALL MORAL TRAINING, THEREFORE WILL BECOME VIOLENT AND SHOOT YOU LIKE THOSE LYLE AND ERIC MENENDEZ KIDS!!!!
And are you willing to go unpaid for several years and the money instead spent on building brick walls and putting doors in?
Unpaid for several years is a bit of an exaggeration. You know a 4'x3' Steelcase electrified panel is a few hundred dollars? It's not cheap in any case. It allows the company not to plan ahead, and to have a work enviro where they can monitor people more easily, and people feel less free.
MSRP $16000, plus installation. In contrast, hire some Mexicans, pull some permits, and build all the rooms you need at once. Right? I don't think anyone's saying that it would be necessarily cheaper, but that productivity would go up if you stopped treating people like rats. And don't try to tell me that corporate policy is sane or wise or anything.
I spent a year in an unhappy relationship, and the combination of no will to live plus a job known for twisting a brother into knots was not good for me. I've spent the last 1-2 years getting healthy again, and it takes a lot of mental energy more than anything else. Rather, mental energy is the root of the problem/solution, and therefore that's the part of yourself you need to master.
I find that doing yoga is very helpful. Running, though I kind of hate it, is high-impact and so it jars all of the muscles I've allowed to atrophy into code-monkey shape, and it oxygenates your body, allowing you to heal. I just started taking a martial arts class, and I'm pushed insanely hard in it, which is great. If you're not into martial arts, dance.
I think the single biggest factor in mainenance is becoming hyperactive again. I used to always be stretching, correcting my posture, pausing to do pushups and crunches throughout the day, running whenever I had to go anywhere (like, between the door of my job and the car), and overall just acting like an obsessive compulsive lunatic. But then again, I notice that my attachment to computers is unhealthy and somewhat obsessive compulsive, so it makes sense that I require the same amount of fervent fanaticism to counteract the bad stuff from it.
(pseudoscience alert - I do not stand by these statements as a matter of scientific fact, rather a theory governing one's relationship to one's body. Then again, I have felt qi as a real thing, so who knows?) I notice there's a big energetic component to stuff like arm strain. I notice that I hold onto energy that I am compelled to express through my hands/arms, and then I have nerve pain in my arms. I know it's psychoemotional problems that have me restrict myself in such a way, and it's really hard to get around it. I used to live in Mexico, where people are far more expressive with their hands. Living in the US, I have a tendency to hold my hands to my sides more even in the face of a desire to express something. I notice that I fold in around my heart center, and sometimes my solar plexus, which is the seat of self. Which is fairly accurate when describing my psychological problems.
I really just recommend you be really present in your body, and develop your own science for relating to yourself. Physical exercise helps you maintain that connection, and I highly recommend kinetic, fluid movement such as dance, aerobics, or martial arts to counteract the sitting.
If you can put it into the heads of the nations governments that we need to do something about it, then maybe we can, but until that happens, let's send people into space. Concur. And while we're at it, why not compromise and send Ralph Nader into space?;-)
Ahhhh... we all know the line, but who watches the watchers. I think you just elected yourself, you 3rd-caller-10,000th-customer-grand-prize-winnin'-t rip-for-4-to-hawaii-takin'-vanna-show-him-what-he- won mofo.
The space shuttle doesn't run on beans and rice. It runs on hydrogen and oxygen, which you can't eat, so why not use it to send astronauts in space to research things that might help those kids some day?
Ralph Nader's calling. He wants his rhetoric back.
The Earth is a closed energy system in that we have no control over the incoming energy from the sun. I'm not just talking about the hydrogen and oxygen, but the manpower used in accumulating the wealth of materials necessary to send a person to space.
Tell me how many man-hours it takes to amass the resources necessary for a spaceship, and we'll talk about how full of rhetoric I am. You have a very limited view of how much energy expenditure goes into things. And if you in fact have a degree of some sort, maybe you should call the school and ask for your money back, because all they did was teach you to think linearly very quickly. Which I think gnats can do, and they don't receive much of an education usually.
For instance, how many of us are going to make it into space? Not many... why? We have the technology to do everything we want to in regards to space flight, except for being able to supply energy cheaply. Will we ever figure out a way to do that? I certainly hope so.
The truth is if we don't figure out zero point energy, we're not going anywhere without destroying the planet. The problem with supplying energy cheaply is that it's got to come from somewhere. If you take any energy system, any accounting system, any distributed economic system with limited resources, you have to look at the true cost of things.
In other words, the reason why very few ever make it to space is because it takes energy equivalent to providing the basic alimentary and medical needs for millions of people to get a few people into space. I know that there are valuable side benefits to the space program, such as Tang, but ask yourself if it's really worth burning up the resources of a million starving children to get there.
Of course, we could divert our martial efforts out into space, so in the words of that guy from Team America, we wouldn't end up with shit all over ourselves, rather, shit in space. But hey, that's not happening any time soon, because we're harvesting energy over there. Whose energy? I would venture a guess that it's the starving and exploited who serve the earth who should decide what to do with its guts.
Is it just because it's a story about M$ sucking, or is it due to something else that just about EVERYONE is modded +5 Insightful. Where are the Trolls at? Who the hell is doing the modding and meta-modding?
"Downgrading" to windows 2000. Or "downgrading" to Ubuntu. Or "downgrading" to OS X. Or "Downgrading" to SLED 10. Or "downgrading" to ZetaOS.
Really, there will be an endless supply of jobs for everyone. Oh, I just thought of a new one: "Downgrading" to a broken pile of rubble with your hammer.
Another carrot proffered naively by the US in hopes that China will "come around" and re-evaluate its currency?
I think the US Government has been fostering this conception we have that they're stupid so we don't see blatant attempts to aid and abet their Big Bretheren as such, but as vast miscalculations. All Donald Rumsfeld will need to do in the future to dispel any thoughts that there may have been malice aforethought will be to spit out some more confusing nonsensical tirade about hot air balloons and how an ape could get sattelite imagery and sell it to the chinese.
An excerpt from my novel, 2008 (not as catchy a title as 1984, but I'm trying): "Ah," we said, "Poor old man. He's going ferking batty."
So, what confuses me is that if you say the current government we serve under doesn't care about us, people get their panties in a bunch. However say, "Feudalist govts were horrible, evil oppressors," people agree. If you say, "The Roman govt was a horrible and evil oppressor," people agree. If you say, "The Nazis were horrible, evil oppressors," people agree. If you say the Russian govt, the Serbians, the Japanese warlords, the Egyptians, pretty much everyone and his goat's grandmother in the middle east, India, Oprah, Kim Jung Il, or Saddam, people say, "Evil! Evil! Evil!"
So. Our government is a massively organized, oppressive military force bent on clouding our judgement, keeping us complacent and stupid, and harvesting our resources and lives for their own desires. They have no regard for our lives. They only want our water--new rule, if you haven't read Dune, you don't get to read/. They have no regard for the children. They are poisoning us, injecting us with experimental drugs from the time we're born, eating food out of our children's mouths, stealing candy from every baby. They are destroying our land, they are poisoning our streams killing every natural means of sustenance on the face of the planet. And yes, with the expansion of the NSA spying program, the integration with online medical records, the ability to arrest people warrentless, without bail, and without explanation, I am scared. Let us please stop worrying about China, because there is so much work to do on our side of the table, and nothing we CAN do on theirs.
Did you know that there are over 2 million dams in the US? And so many dams over 6 ft tall that at one dam a day, it would take 200 years to blow them all up? Stats courtesy of Derek Jensen.
And if a large enough piece cracks off and falls into the ocean, we're all gonna die. Well, me, because I live in Florida. The problem with the ice in Greenland is that since the ice is on top of land, as it falls into the ocean, it drastically increases the ocean levels, whereas glacial mass already floating in the ocean only increases it slightly.
It may be a decade before most people switch to some form of non volatile memory for new purchases, but I would expect it to be reliable enough
Yes, but still not impervious to Rhinoceros attacks, which are very very common where I'm from (Florida). And what about when the glaciers slide off Greenland all at once and cause the 300ft tsunami all around the world, then where will your data be? Underwater, that's where.
The greenland thing is actually possibly going to happen, as the water pools on top of the glaciers, the refraction causes faster melting, and the water has been leaking down between the glaciers and creating a slick that could cause the glaciers to--if they suddenly broke off--slide into the ocean within a few minutes. FYI, peeps. I know this is OT, but I'm moving inland.
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I mean, that NEVER happens in real life. Does it?
My wild stab in the dark is that the IBM sticker on the bottom means it's a Thinkpad. Plus the fact that it's a fcuking thinkpad in shape, color, and IT'S A THINKPAD!
the country likes wars. "the war on information nonproliferation" sounds pretty good to me.
"Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the information nonproliferationists."
"This crusade, this war on information nonproliferation is going to take a while."
my problem with rechargables has always been figuring out where I left the charger, which has invariably moved by the time the batteries run dry.
Not trying to invalidate your point, but you could try mounting tape. Or nails. Or duct tape. Sticky things are boon to the scattered.
Seriously, does anybody else remember burning through a case of AA batteries before they even got the hang of NBA Jam or Mortal Kombat?
- Waste-On-Batteries-Every-Year Dad! I was so proud of them. :-)
I got my Game Gear for Christmas when I was 7 or 8, and as soon as I pointed out to my parents that my rechargeable batteries lasted something stupid like under 4 hours, they called Sega up and tag-teamed their way up the customer service ladder until Sega overnighted me a battery pack.
In the red corner, Screamin' Mom is teamed up with Tells-You-Exactly-How-Much-F'ing-Money-He's-Gonna
And next-gen's hot coffee scandal has begun. How long do you think it will take for someone to make a bootleg game that ...ahem... "uses" the wiimote in such a way?
Oh man, oh man, oh man. The sex toy dongle: "Finally, a dongle worthy of the name." Is there going to be a publicly available cheapo game API they release so you can program your Wii? That would be wicked!
Then the Wii really WOULD be for the whole family, including your creepy uncle.
I live with 7 other people, and we have a shared food fund, which overflows into a house fund, and I'm totally going to lobby that we purchase a Nintendo Wii with it. I have only ever purchased (or my household purchased) an NES, a Gameboy, and a Game Gear (with its whopping 14-second battery life), and yet I am called to this glorious machine.
My four-point argument for the Nintendo Wii:
1. Legend of Zelda with sword-swinging.
2. Metroid Prime with controls that rival PC controls. (Oooooh! A slogan: "Metroid Prime: get inside Samus")
3. 4gb flash memory for under $50.
4. $250
I however do not really like any of the Mario Kart sequels nearly as much as the original. So yes, Nintendo can break my heart. Will they? I hope not. I don't even think it probable.
To quote Parent:
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To quote The Daily Show:
Short answer: no.
Long answer: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I would like to point out that the problem with kiddie porn is not watching it, rather producing it. If all production of kiddie porn and sex with children went away, and people continued watching kiddie porn, I think the world would be ok. Other than the fact that I've stumbled across a few kiddie porn pictures in my life, and that shit's disturbing, fucked up, and wrong.
Really, with these people they just think up whatever crazy bullshit argument they know they can get 50%+1 of the country riled up over, and go to town. I think I should get a job doing this, becuase I think I would be great at it. Observe:
1. If you don't give me your rights, PEOPLE WILL FUCK CHILDREN.
2. If you don't give up your guns, SNUFF FILMS WILL BE MADE IN YOUR BACK YARD.
3. If your neighbors are wearing high-top tennis shoes and getting all emo and stop buying meat, THEY ARE SATAN WORSHIPPERS.
4. If you're not a Bush-supporter, YOU'RE A COMMIE NEO-NAZI JEW.
I think I have a fair grasp on it. When do I get my first job? If you don't hire me, YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE UNABLE TO DISCERN WHICH HALF OF THE SENTENCE IS THE IMPORTANT PART, AND THEREFORE WILL MISS ALL MORAL TRAINING, THEREFORE WILL BECOME VIOLENT AND SHOOT YOU LIKE THOSE LYLE AND ERIC MENENDEZ KIDS!!!!
And are you willing to go unpaid for several years and the money instead spent on building brick walls and putting doors in?
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Unpaid for several years is a bit of an exaggeration. You know a 4'x3' Steelcase electrified panel is a few hundred dollars? It's not cheap in any case. It allows the company not to plan ahead, and to have a work enviro where they can monitor people more easily, and people feel less free.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ite
MSRP $16000, plus installation. In contrast, hire some Mexicans, pull some permits, and build all the rooms you need at once. Right? I don't think anyone's saying that it would be necessarily cheaper, but that productivity would go up if you stopped treating people like rats. And don't try to tell me that corporate policy is sane or wise or anything.
I spent a year in an unhappy relationship, and the combination of no will to live plus a job known for twisting a brother into knots was not good for me. I've spent the last 1-2 years getting healthy again, and it takes a lot of mental energy more than anything else. Rather, mental energy is the root of the problem/solution, and therefore that's the part of yourself you need to master.
I find that doing yoga is very helpful. Running, though I kind of hate it, is high-impact and so it jars all of the muscles I've allowed to atrophy into code-monkey shape, and it oxygenates your body, allowing you to heal. I just started taking a martial arts class, and I'm pushed insanely hard in it, which is great. If you're not into martial arts, dance.
I think the single biggest factor in mainenance is becoming hyperactive again. I used to always be stretching, correcting my posture, pausing to do pushups and crunches throughout the day, running whenever I had to go anywhere (like, between the door of my job and the car), and overall just acting like an obsessive compulsive lunatic. But then again, I notice that my attachment to computers is unhealthy and somewhat obsessive compulsive, so it makes sense that I require the same amount of fervent fanaticism to counteract the bad stuff from it.
(pseudoscience alert - I do not stand by these statements as a matter of scientific fact, rather a theory governing one's relationship to one's body. Then again, I have felt qi as a real thing, so who knows?)
I notice there's a big energetic component to stuff like arm strain. I notice that I hold onto energy that I am compelled to express through my hands/arms, and then I have nerve pain in my arms. I know it's psychoemotional problems that have me restrict myself in such a way, and it's really hard to get around it. I used to live in Mexico, where people are far more expressive with their hands. Living in the US, I have a tendency to hold my hands to my sides more even in the face of a desire to express something. I notice that I fold in around my heart center, and sometimes my solar plexus, which is the seat of self. Which is fairly accurate when describing my psychological problems.
I really just recommend you be really present in your body, and develop your own science for relating to yourself. Physical exercise helps you maintain that connection, and I highly recommend kinetic, fluid movement such as dance, aerobics, or martial arts to counteract the sitting.
If you can put it into the heads of the nations governments that we need to do something about it, then maybe we can, but until that happens, let's send people into space. ;-)
Concur. And while we're at it, why not compromise and send Ralph Nader into space?
Ahhhh... we all know the line, but who watches the watchers.t rip-for-4-to-hawaii-takin'-vanna-show-him-what-he- won mofo.
I think you just elected yourself, you 3rd-caller-10,000th-customer-grand-prize-winnin'-
The space shuttle doesn't run on beans and rice. It runs on hydrogen and oxygen, which you can't eat, so why not use it to send astronauts in space to research things that might help those kids some day?
Ralph Nader's calling. He wants his rhetoric back.
The Earth is a closed energy system in that we have no control over the incoming energy from the sun. I'm not just talking about the hydrogen and oxygen, but the manpower used in accumulating the wealth of materials necessary to send a person to space.
Tell me how many man-hours it takes to amass the resources necessary for a spaceship, and we'll talk about how full of rhetoric I am. You have a very limited view of how much energy expenditure goes into things. And if you in fact have a degree of some sort, maybe you should call the school and ask for your money back, because all they did was teach you to think linearly very quickly. Which I think gnats can do, and they don't receive much of an education usually.
For instance, how many of us are going to make it into space? Not many... why? We have the technology to do everything we want to in regards to space flight, except for being able to supply energy cheaply. Will we ever figure out a way to do that? I certainly hope so.
The truth is if we don't figure out zero point energy, we're not going anywhere without destroying the planet. The problem with supplying energy cheaply is that it's got to come from somewhere. If you take any energy system, any accounting system, any distributed economic system with limited resources, you have to look at the true cost of things.
In other words, the reason why very few ever make it to space is because it takes energy equivalent to providing the basic alimentary and medical needs for millions of people to get a few people into space. I know that there are valuable side benefits to the space program, such as Tang, but ask yourself if it's really worth burning up the resources of a million starving children to get there.
Of course, we could divert our martial efforts out into space, so in the words of that guy from Team America, we wouldn't end up with shit all over ourselves, rather, shit in space. But hey, that's not happening any time soon, because we're harvesting energy over there. Whose energy? I would venture a guess that it's the starving and exploited who serve the earth who should decide what to do with its guts.
a side benefit is that I am now an incredible lover with a huge penis and I get great deals on real estate loans.
C0ulddD You sa+isfie my w0me0n Tonite! I'm having trouble, because of my t1ny p//en15.
Is it just because it's a story about M$ sucking, or is it due to something else that just about EVERYONE is modded +5 Insightful. Where are the Trolls at? Who the hell is doing the modding and meta-modding?
"Downgrading" to windows 2000. Or "downgrading" to Ubuntu. Or "downgrading" to OS X. Or "Downgrading" to SLED 10. Or "downgrading" to ZetaOS.
Really, there will be an endless supply of jobs for everyone. Oh, I just thought of a new one: "Downgrading" to a broken pile of rubble with your hammer.
Another carrot proffered naively by the US in hopes that China will "come around" and re-evaluate its currency?
/. They have no regard for the children. They are poisoning us, injecting us with experimental drugs from the time we're born, eating food out of our children's mouths, stealing candy from every baby. They are destroying our land, they are poisoning our streams killing every natural means of sustenance on the face of the planet. And yes, with the expansion of the NSA spying program, the integration with online medical records, the ability to arrest people warrentless, without bail, and without explanation, I am scared. Let us please stop worrying about China, because there is so much work to do on our side of the table, and nothing we CAN do on theirs.
I think the US Government has been fostering this conception we have that they're stupid so we don't see blatant attempts to aid and abet their Big Bretheren as such, but as vast miscalculations. All Donald Rumsfeld will need to do in the future to dispel any thoughts that there may have been malice aforethought will be to spit out some more confusing nonsensical tirade about hot air balloons and how an ape could get sattelite imagery and sell it to the chinese.
An excerpt from my novel, 2008 (not as catchy a title as 1984, but I'm trying):
"Ah," we said, "Poor old man. He's going ferking batty."
So, what confuses me is that if you say the current government we serve under doesn't care about us, people get their panties in a bunch. However say, "Feudalist govts were horrible, evil oppressors," people agree. If you say, "The Roman govt was a horrible and evil oppressor," people agree. If you say, "The Nazis were horrible, evil oppressors," people agree. If you say the Russian govt, the Serbians, the Japanese warlords, the Egyptians, pretty much everyone and his goat's grandmother in the middle east, India, Oprah, Kim Jung Il, or Saddam, people say, "Evil! Evil! Evil!"
So. Our government is a massively organized, oppressive military force bent on clouding our judgement, keeping us complacent and stupid, and harvesting our resources and lives for their own desires. They have no regard for our lives. They only want our water--new rule, if you haven't read Dune, you don't get to read
(I'm not really writing a novel)
...it seems TFA/has been slashdotted.
Did you know that there are over 2 million dams in the US? And so many dams over 6 ft tall that at one dam a day, it would take 200 years to blow them all up? Stats courtesy of Derek Jensen.
Oh by the way, say goodbye to all the salmon.
Minutes was most likely an exaggeration. I'm still repeating what I've heard from scientific reports. The basic premise is:
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http://exploreourpla.net/2006-08-16/greenlands-gl
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=267
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?stor
And if a large enough piece cracks off and falls into the ocean, we're all gonna die. Well, me, because I live in Florida. The problem with the ice in Greenland is that since the ice is on top of land, as it falls into the ocean, it drastically increases the ocean levels, whereas glacial mass already floating in the ocean only increases it slightly.
Anyway, regardless of who's smoking crack, search for greenland on this page:
http://www.climatecrisiscoalition.org/blog/?cat=2
It may be a decade before most people switch to some form of non volatile memory for new purchases, but I would expect it to be reliable enough
Yes, but still not impervious to Rhinoceros attacks, which are very very common where I'm from (Florida). And what about when the glaciers slide off Greenland all at once and cause the 300ft tsunami all around the world, then where will your data be? Underwater, that's where.
The greenland thing is actually possibly going to happen, as the water pools on top of the glaciers, the refraction causes faster melting, and the water has been leaking down between the glaciers and creating a slick that could cause the glaciers to--if they suddenly broke off--slide into the ocean within a few minutes. FYI, peeps. I know this is OT, but I'm moving inland.
speed joke:
They should use linux, I hear it's free!
You are correct. I was converting into x/20 format, which is what is usually quoted here. I did bad math.
For a second I thought you said you did bad meth
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