Do you realize how much of The General Public you have eliminated here? I can think of plenty people who would have trouble with answering machines and vcrs, let alone doing something as simple as changing your own oil (!?!?!). Human beings tend to strive towards efficiency. Everyone knowing how to build a car is inefficient. We contract the work out to People Who Know What They Are Doing so we can do other things with our valuable time. The technology sector doesn't seem to be that different.
Correct, but that doesn't change the argument. Go to your local car dealer to change oil, go to your local computer shop to disable cookies, fine with me. Or should there be a law that requires all cars to ask wether or not you want to change oil each time you start it? That what will happen to websites unless they use cookies to remember wether or not you want to use cookies...
Yes, but not a single asp or php session id. I didn't even see a single session cookie, only 'make this guy tracable' id's that where valid for years.
This illustrates nicely why i don't understand this kind of laws. I'm allready in the position to decide to accept or refuse cookies from a website. It is and should be up to the client to decide to accept cookies or not, it should not be moved to the server and there isn't any need for a law about it. Even in sweden there can't be much browsers that don't at least provide the option to enable or disable cookies...
yes but if a contractor company who is writing software for the government wants to make a modification, that the government requests they are redistributing a modification and will have to publish it.
They will have to publish the modification to anybody that receives the binaries, that might just be nobody else but the government that requested the modification. It then up to the government to redistibuted the modified code or not, thats their freedom under GPL. If i was the contractor that did the modification I likely whoudn't care about it as long as i got payed for the work i did.
I certainly wouldn't want military guidance systems released
Wich doesn't exclude the usage of GPL'ed software. GPL only says that you should allow anyone that got binaries from you to get the source code as well. Meaning that your government actually get the code of the guidence systems. That government is then 'allowed' to share that code with whoever they choose, but they are not forced to do so in any way. So there is nothing in OSS that prevents anyone from keeping things secret...
McNett misreads the Red Hat documents. Their contract is for the various services, not the software, and for the services they are entitled to demand whatever concessions they think the market will bear.
Then why is it news?
End why is it that all the legal stuf seems to have become so important in the Open-Source/Unix® world. Can't we just go on and write interesting programs and good code?
Yes and guess who get to decide what is going to be implemented and when thats going to happen?
Like: No, Im sure it's a great idea, so just do it. I want it done before 10am.
I am afraid you're right on spot. The only ones reporting about it seem to be slashdot and the register. Check Google news. It seems a completely bogus story to me.
Hey, it's just a special edition, you're not forced to use it and the normal download link will give you a normal version so your not dragged into anything.
Working with MS to correct an attack on the Opera browser is like, euh, like asking MS behave well and rise above corporate rivalry.
Well, thats what Opera asked...
> After all I can always do a "Save as" and then
> upload the page to the validator.
Funny, clearly not an Opera user. I just press Ctrl+Alt+V to validate a page...
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Do you realize how much of The General Public you have eliminated here? I can think of plenty people who would have trouble with answering machines and vcrs, let alone doing something as simple as changing your own oil (!?!?!). Human beings tend to strive towards efficiency. Everyone knowing how to build a car is inefficient. We contract the work out to People Who Know What They Are Doing so we can do other things with our valuable time. The technology sector doesn't seem to be that different.
Correct, but that doesn't change the argument. Go to your local car dealer to change oil, go to your local computer shop to disable cookies, fine with me. Or should there be a law that requires all cars to ask wether or not you want to change oil each time you start it? That what will happen to websites unless they use cookies to remember wether or not you want to use cookies...
More than 60% Slashdotters use IE, use the default settings of Slashdot
And the default setting of IE 6 is to refuse all cookies...
Yes, but not a single asp or php session id. I didn't even see a single session cookie, only 'make this guy tracable' id's that where valid for years.
This illustrates nicely why i don't understand this kind of laws. I'm allready in the position to decide to accept or refuse cookies from a website. It is and should be up to the client to decide to accept cookies or not, it should not be moved to the server and there isn't any need for a law about it. Even in sweden there can't be much browsers that don't at least provide the option to enable or disable cookies...
Honesty,
;-)
I will tell em that i made a copy!
integrity,
Twice, when needed.
and the law.
But i just won't go and live in the USA
Wich is an invalid email address according to the SMTP rfc. Should be root@[127.0.0.1] since the domain part is an ip address...
Give pegasus mail a try. It won't show online images until you request them...
So the interesting question is wheter fireing a missile containing a GPL'ed binary counts as distibution...
If you don't want your work to fall under the GPL, don't base it on GPL software. How hard is that?
Very hard for most people, especially the ones that want to make easy money using other peoples hard work...
yes but if a contractor company who is writing software for the government wants to make a modification, that the government requests they are redistributing a modification and will have to publish it.
They will have to publish the modification to anybody that receives the binaries, that might just be nobody else but the government that requested the modification. It then up to the government to redistibuted the modified code or not, thats their freedom under GPL. If i was the contractor that did the modification I likely whoudn't care about it as long as i got payed for the work i did.
I certainly wouldn't want military guidance systems released
Wich doesn't exclude the usage of GPL'ed software. GPL only says that you should allow anyone that got binaries from you to get the source code as well. Meaning that your government actually get the code of the guidence systems. That government is then 'allowed' to share that code with whoever they choose, but they are not forced to do so in any way. So there is nothing in OSS that prevents anyone from keeping things secret...
McNett misreads the Red Hat documents. Their contract is for the various services, not the software, and for the services they are entitled to demand whatever concessions they think the market will bear.
Then why is it news?
End why is it that all the legal stuf seems to have become so important in the Open-Source/Unix® world. Can't we just go on and write interesting programs and good code?
Move along people, there's nothing to see here...
How old are you. There must be people here that remember the days that was what people said about linux.
Time to buy a student licence and mail the developers, you'd think. ;-)
You don't need to buy a license to report a bug. And you could also try news.opera.no and get some help there.
Yes and guess who get to decide what is going to be implemented and when thats going to happen?
Like:
No, Im sure it's a great idea, so just do it. I want it done before 10am.
Well at least i'm able to replay, but hey, it's 6 pm here in Holland...
I am afraid you're right on spot. The only ones reporting about it seem to be slashdot and the register. Check Google news. It seems a completely bogus story to me.
Annoying ideed, but easily fixed. Just create
That should do the job, at least is works for me...
Make sure to take a look at the images here when reading that article...
Or you'd plug it into your network an give it a webserver of it's own using this plug.
Though it might turn out a bit more expensive...
Try again... I downloaded it just fine.
Hey, it's just a special edition, you're not forced to use it and the normal download link will give you a normal version so your not dragged into anything.
Working with MS to correct an attack on the Opera browser is like, euh, like asking MS behave well and rise above corporate rivalry.
Well, thats what Opera asked...
> After all I can always do a "Save as" and then > upload the page to the validator. Funny, clearly not an Opera user. I just press Ctrl+Alt+V to validate a page...
It's IMHO, In My Humble Opinion
I mean, we're all grown-ups here, right?
I must say i admire your optimism...