Think of it like this: You have to seem to qualify lots of statements with OSS. "apt-get rocks! (but only if you use pure Debian)" "Knoppix rules! (but don't install it and then expect apt-get to work)" "Mplayer is awesome! (if you can get it compiled and installed. Oh, you have to get the right codecs)"
Or like this:
"This Limo is awesome, but only if you have a driver who will park it for you."
This Porsche is great, but not for travelling with your family or for shopping.
Knoppix is a LiveCD. Why don't you wanna use it as a live CD? Search some Debian lists for the whole sad story. Or/join a #debian support channel, state your problem and duck.
Fun aside: There are alternatives. If you want to have the latest glitz, maybe testing is the right choice for you. Did you take a look at the new sarge installer?
You were right with Knoppix being Debian plus something. Plus hardware autoconfig, plus out-of-the-box magic, plus tons of apps already installed, etc.
You forgot plus funky mix of apt sources, plus upgrade hassle the user has to solve himself.
Knoppix might be super easy to install, but administrating a HD installation needs extra Debian knowledge, as you've seen. I don't say that it's impossible to solve these issues. But you might as well use a lean sources.list, like a normal Debian install would produce. Use Knoppix to create config files if your normal Debian install fails. That's cool. Updating a Knoppix HD install isn't. I am sure that this may change, but for the time being this is the situation.
As soon as it comes to upgrading, Knoppix is not Debian.
Did you ask anyone (like Google before you put your plan in action?
Join me in the ancient mantra: "Knoppix is not Debian, Knoppix is not Debian, Knoppix...".
P.S.: I really love Knoppix. Its very useful. Just don't knoppix-installer && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade || apt-get dist-upgrade and complain. You missed some warnings, dude. They're all over the place.
Last time I checked there weren't any professional level (cubase, sonar, logic, motu, etc...) sequencing/recording/arranging packages available on Linux.
When was "last time"?
There are packages available that are very interesting, like ardour, rosegarden, muse etc. which can rather easily be combined into a full-fledged environment. Don't forget that you can route sound on application level using jack. I often miss this feature in wintendo.
There are so many packages for various audio tasks available, the AGNULA/DeMuDi LiveCD might be an easy way for you to check. There is a list of applications available in the browser popping up after reboot. It is kinda loooooong.
I really want to record on Free Software, but currently it's not possible. And I'm not a good enough programmer to change that. So i stick with proprietary recording software.
Please do not underestimate the value of bug reports. You don't have to be a programmer to help.
I am using a mixed environment, and I feel that Linux might not "be there" right now, but it is "geting there" incredibly fast. I have migrated lots of tasks - including recording - to the GNU/Linux part of my "studio", so I do not share your impression.
The AGNULA/DeMuDi LiveCD may be an excellent chance to check out what applications are available. Check out the list of applications that's in the browsers popping up once the livecd has booted.
On apt.agnula.org there is a mirror advice that reads:
Following the publication on Slashdot of an article by Linux Devices ("Building a solid-state mini-ITX Linux recording studio") the AGNULA server at KTH has been slashdotted. Until the storm passes by, we WARMLY invite people to use our mirrors to donwload the AGNULA/DeMuDi ISOs and to access the APT repository.
deb http://freesoftware.ircam.fr/mirrors/demudi/ unstable main contrib deb-src http://freesoftware.ircam.fr/mirrors/demudi/ unstable main contrib
and/or
deb http://ccrma.stanford.edu/mirrors/agnula/demudi-ap t/ unstable main contrib deb-src http://ccrma.stanford.edu/mirrors/agnula/demudi-ap t/ unstable main contrib
in your/etc/apt/sources.list if you want to use `apt-get' to download and install AGNULA/DeMuDi packages on your system.
We are sorry for the lack of clarity - we were in the process of redesigning the web site and clearly show the existence of the (kindly provided) mirrors, when the Slashdot storm caught us!:)
The AGNULA team would like to deeply thank IRCAM and Stanford for providing storage and connectivity for the mirrors; and specifically Francois Dechele, Patrice Tisserand (IRCAM) and Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano (CCRMA, Stanford) for taking care of all the administrative details.
I have tested the AGNULA/DeMuDi LiveCD on about 20 machines so far. 16 of these worked out of the box (all of these having consumer grade sound cards).
Another nice feature of the LiveCD is the list of applications and the bunch of tutorials that come with it. Just don't close the browser window that pops up automatically. The list of applications is amazingly long.
The other GNU/Linux Audio Distribution you mentioned was Apodio.
Let me add that AGNULA/DeMuDi will get even better with your feedback. Consider to join the mailing lists and post your bug reports.
AGNULA/DeMuDi was not initially designed to be a "Live Distro".
If you consider to install AGNULA/DeMuDi onto your harddisk, check out the normal installation CDs. There will be a new version released Very Soon TM.
If There are still quite a lot of people who know the difference between a hacker and a cracker, then let us not talk as if we didn't. It's crackers or malicious hackers, plain and easy.
Some people avoid to call some contemporary music "Rhythm and Blues", because there was a different style of that name before. I avoid to call malicious hackers just hackers, because hacking is fun, a healthy sport for both yourself and the society you live in.
If you think I am wrong, search the web for the Jargon File. It points to some good reading about the history of the term. --
I am an actual user and I am actually using some of those tools. You are an anonymous coward, who has probably never used one of the unices you are flaming about.
The article talked about an admin gadget for linux distros, the thread discussed ways to solve dependency problems a better way than what you call "a real install". Your "real install" is a crude workaround done by additional tools installing dependent modules over and over again. This is neither a real solution, nor does it bear up against your own criteria.
You dropped some buzzword bullshit you refuse to expatiate. You are interested in wether GNU/Linux has a chance of becoming a desktop OS. I don't mind, because I am satisfied with the desktop OS of my choice, thank you.
You are right, but you forgot to mention the most important thing. Be proud: some czech beer might be the best beer in the world. Pilsner Urquell, Budweiser (Yes, there's _beer_ called budweiser too), the small brands... Americans get drunk from czech beer by simply looking at it, it is a special feature.
If you want to give your german language skills a test, you might like this mp3 file of a police operation in Berlin involving GSM tapping and localisation. The cops refer to it as "ping". If you want to know about the streets they're talking about, try this link and click on Berlin.
GSM seems to be enough for everyday police "work".
#!/bin/sh
# Blue screen of death implementation for Linux ;-)
# Author: Christian Steinruecken cstein@suse.de
if test -t 0; then
set -- `stty size`
L="$1"
R="$2"
else
L="25"
R="80"
fi
echo -en "\033[m\033[44;37m\033[H\033[J"
LL=`expr $L / 2 - 5`
RR=`expr $R / 2 - 3`
echo -en "\033[${LL}B"
echo -en "\033[${RR}G"
echo -e "\033[47;34m Linux \033[37;44m"
RR=`expr $R / 2 - 34`
p=`echo -en "\033[${RR}G"`
echo -e "\033[1m"
case "$LANG" in
de*) cat
${p}Der schwere Ausnahmefehler 0E trat auf in Prozess 01 (/sbin/init &)
${p}Die aktuelle Anwendung kann nicht fortgesetzt werden.
${p} * Drücken Sie RETURN um die Anwendung zu beenden.
${p} * Drücken Sie STRG-ALT-ENTF um Ihren Computer neu zu starten. Vergessen
${p} Sie nicht, vorher laut zu fluchen.
EOF ;;
# Feel free to add more languages!
*) cat
${p}The fatal exception 0E occurred in process 1 (/sbin/init &)
${p}The current application cannot be continued.
${p} * Press RETURN to close the application.
${p} * Press CTRL-ALT-DEL to reboot your computer. Do not forget to
${p} scream and curse.
EOF ;;
esac
if test -t 1; then
read
echo -en "\033[${L}H\033[m"
echo -e "\033[KOh, and yes... Have a nice day!!;-)"
else
echo -en "\033[${L}H\033[m"
fi
exit 0
Re:Celebrating Windows Dependence???
on
Windependence Day
·
· Score: 1
I think that your understanding of the word is far more logical and does fit better. If I could choose Independence from Windependence, guess what I'd choose.
Painful mistake, actually, isn't it? What a waste.
Thank you for your research. I googled for "linux" and "microsoft" in combination with "pornography", it seems that MS supports pornography too. Wow. Perhaps they are responsible for continental drift too, have to google it.
If Microsoft's public statements were held to this level of logic and clarity more often, we would have a very different software market.
I guess we will never see a MS statement that follows another logic than "Give us all your $."
If I may quote you:
This Peruvian congressman reveals just how shallow Microsoft's self-interested arguments against free software really are. It makes them look both stupid and shrill.
The original phrase's verb would be "cogitare", meaning "to think", 1st person singular is "cogito". Supposed you wanted to refer to something like "codere", take "codeo, ergo sum". BTW, there's a nice page to play around with latin vocab here.
Slashdot Mirror
Or like this:
"This Limo is awesome, but only if you have a driver who will park it for you."
This Porsche is great, but not for travelling with your family or for shopping.
Knoppix is a LiveCD. Why don't you wanna use it as a live CD? Search some Debian lists for the whole sad story. Or /join a #debian support channel, state your problem and duck.
Fun aside: There are alternatives. If you want to have the latest glitz, maybe testing is the right choice for you. Did you take a look at the new sarge installer?
You were right with Knoppix being Debian plus something. Plus hardware autoconfig, plus out-of-the-box magic, plus tons of apps already installed, etc.
You forgot plus funky mix of apt sources, plus upgrade hassle the user has to solve himself.
Knoppix might be super easy to install, but administrating a HD installation needs extra Debian knowledge, as you've seen. I don't say that it's impossible to solve these issues. But you might as well use a lean sources.list, like a normal Debian install would produce. Use Knoppix to create config files if your normal Debian install fails. That's cool. Updating a Knoppix HD install isn't. I am sure that this may change, but for the time being this is the situation.
If you'd only used Debian.
As soon as it comes to upgrading, Knoppix is not Debian.
Did you ask anyone (like Google before you put your plan in action?
Join me in the ancient mantra: "Knoppix is not Debian, Knoppix is not Debian, Knoppix...".
P.S.: I really love Knoppix. Its very useful. Just don't knoppix-installer && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade || apt-get dist-upgrade and complain. You missed some warnings, dude. They're all over the place.
There is a talk about Dirac and related BBC projects available at the webpage of the "First European seminar on Free Software for Multimedia Streaming over the Internet" that took place at IRCAM June 23/24, 2004.
The talk is available as Ogg Vorbis audio, you can obtain the presentation slides in pdf format.
Last time I checked there weren't any professional level (cubase, sonar, logic, motu, etc.. .) sequencing/recording/arranging packages available on Linux.
When was "last time"?
There are packages available that are very interesting, like ardour, rosegarden, muse etc. which can rather easily be combined into a full-fledged environment. Don't forget that you can route sound on application level using jack. I often miss this feature in wintendo.
There are so many packages for various audio tasks available, the AGNULA/DeMuDi LiveCD might be an easy way for you to check. There is a list of applications available in the browser popping up after reboot. It is kinda loooooong.
I really want to record on Free Software, but currently it's not possible. And I'm not a good enough programmer to change that. So i stick with proprietary recording software.
Please do not underestimate the value of bug reports. You don't have to be a programmer to help.
I am using a mixed environment, and I feel that Linux might not "be there" right now, but it is "geting there" incredibly fast. I have migrated lots of tasks - including recording - to the GNU/Linux part of my "studio", so I do not share your impression.
The AGNULA/DeMuDi LiveCD may be an excellent chance to check out what applications are available. Check out the list of applications that's in the browsers popping up once the livecd has booted.
On apt.agnula.org there is a mirror advice that reads:
a gnula-is o/ (CCRMA, Stanford)
p t/ unstable main contribp t/ unstable main contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list if you want to use `apt-get' to download and install AGNULA/DeMuDi packages on your system.
:)
Following the publication on Slashdot of an article by Linux Devices ("Building a solid-state mini-ITX Linux recording studio") the AGNULA server at KTH has been slashdotted. Until the storm passes by, we WARMLY invite people to use our mirrors to donwload the AGNULA/DeMuDi ISOs and to access the APT repository.
Please use:
http://freesoftware.ircam.fr/mirrors/agnula/ (IRCAM, Paris)
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/mirrors/agnula/
to download the AGNULA/DeMuDi ISO images, and put
deb http://freesoftware.ircam.fr/mirrors/demudi/ unstable main contrib
deb-src http://freesoftware.ircam.fr/mirrors/demudi/ unstable main contrib
and/or
deb http://ccrma.stanford.edu/mirrors/agnula/demudi-a
deb-src http://ccrma.stanford.edu/mirrors/agnula/demudi-a
in your
We are sorry for the lack of clarity - we were in the process of redesigning the web site and clearly show the existence of the (kindly provided) mirrors, when the Slashdot storm caught us!
The AGNULA team would like to deeply thank IRCAM and Stanford for providing storage and connectivity for the mirrors; and specifically Francois Dechele, Patrice Tisserand (IRCAM) and Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano (CCRMA, Stanford) for taking care of all the administrative details.
This excellent round-up of Linux digital audio software (including low-latency kernels) is a one-stop shop for all your recording needs:
... if you are on RedHat or FC.
But you are perfectly right, Planet CCRMA is very good, too.
I have tested the AGNULA/DeMuDi LiveCD on about 20 machines so far. 16 of these worked out of the box (all of these having consumer grade sound cards).
Another nice feature of the LiveCD is the list of applications and the bunch of tutorials that come with it. Just don't close the browser window that pops up automatically. The list of applications is amazingly long.
The other GNU/Linux Audio Distribution you mentioned was Apodio.
Let me add that AGNULA/DeMuDi will get even better with your feedback. Consider to join the mailing lists and post your bug reports.
AGNULA/DeMuDi was not initially designed to be a "Live Distro". If you consider to install AGNULA/DeMuDi onto your harddisk, check out the normal installation CDs. There will be a new version released Very Soon TM.
I wonder what the "given current trends" are they were talking about in the NG.
Actually, it is probably more economical to mark things that are NOT jokes, given current trends.
Is it something Mike B. Jones won't tell us on a Microbloat Site?
Constantinos Dovrolis has moved to Georgia, and so did the web page mentioned above.
woke without my girl
woke without my girl today
I am all alone.
---
the blues and haiku
so dense, so strict formally
but so different.
Two arts in three lines,
pain and struggle is the one,
one short, like life is.
every haiku
dies, unlike the blues
from repetition
where futile it is
to ecxrete some blues without
saying some things twice.
But try to do that
in beautiful haiku form
it's impossible.
- fr2ty
P.S: the last word
is more of a bold thesis
and should be questioned.
corefonts.sourceforge.net/ , as mentioned above.
If There are still quite a lot of people who know the difference between a hacker and a cracker, then let us not talk as if we didn't. It's crackers or malicious hackers, plain and easy.
Some people avoid to call some contemporary music "Rhythm and Blues", because there was a different style of that name before.
I avoid to call malicious hackers just hackers, because hacking is fun, a healthy sport for both yourself and the society you live in.
If you think I am wrong, search the web for the Jargon File. It points to some good reading about the history of the term.
--
Power without responsibilty == tyranny, however you slice it.
--
I am an actual user and I am actually using some of those tools. You are an anonymous coward, who has probably never used one of the unices you are flaming about.
The article talked about an admin gadget for linux distros, the thread discussed ways to solve dependency problems a better way than what you call "a real install". Your "real install" is a crude workaround done by additional tools installing dependent modules over and over again. This is neither a real solution, nor does it bear up against your own criteria.
You dropped some buzzword bullshit you refuse to expatiate. You are interested in wether GNU/Linux has a chance of becoming a desktop OS. I don't mind, because I am satisfied with the desktop OS of my choice, thank you.
Radical Islam will commodify your discontent, and sell it back to you as religion.
Just as any other fundamentalist crap would do?
You are right, but you forgot to mention the most important thing. Be proud: some czech beer might be the best beer in the world. Pilsner Urquell, Budweiser (Yes, there's _beer_ called budweiser too), the small brands... Americans get drunk from czech beer by simply looking at it, it is a special feature.
ACK
Bush doesn't seem to be thinking straight
Bush doesn't seem to be thinking, straight.
I think it is worth to mention that the t-shirt does not read PORCAMADONNA at all. See for yourself.
"Vuoi comprare una vocale?" means "Do you want to buy a vowel?" BTW.
If you want to give your german language skills a test, you might like this mp3 file of a police operation in Berlin involving GSM tapping and localisation. The cops refer to it as "ping".
If you want to know about the streets they're talking about, try this link and click on Berlin.
GSM seems to be enough for everyday police "work".
look what I found in
#!/bin/sh
# Blue screen of death implementation for Linux
# Author: Christian Steinruecken cstein@suse.de
if test -t 0; then
set -- `stty size`
L="$1"
R="$2"
else
L="25"
R="80"
fi
echo -en "\033[m\033[44;37m\033[H\033[J"
LL=`expr $L / 2 - 5`
RR=`expr $R / 2 - 3`
echo -en "\033[${LL}B"
echo -en "\033[${RR}G"
echo -e "\033[47;34m Linux \033[37;44m"
RR=`expr $R / 2 - 34`
p=`echo -en "\033[${RR}G"`
echo -e "\033[1m"
case "$LANG" in
de*) cat ${p}Der schwere Ausnahmefehler 0E trat auf in
Prozess 01 (/sbin/init &)
${p}Die aktuelle Anwendung kann nicht
fortgesetzt werden.
${p} * Drücken Sie RETURN um die Anwendung zu
beenden.
${p} * Drücken Sie STRG-ALT-ENTF um Ihren
Computer neu zu starten. Vergessen
${p} Sie nicht, vorher laut zu fluchen.
EOF
# Feel free to add more languages!
*) cat ${p}The fatal exception 0E occurred in process 1
(/sbin/init &) ${p}The current application cannot be continued.
${p} * Press RETURN to close the application.
${p} * Press CTRL-ALT-DEL to reboot your
computer. Do not forget to
${p} scream and curse.
EOF
esac
if test -t 1; then
read
echo -en "\033[${L}H\033[m"
echo -e "\033[KOh, and yes... Have a nice day!!
else
echo -en "\033[${L}H\033[m"
fi
exit 0
I think that your understanding of the word is far more logical and does fit better.
If I could choose Independence from Windependence, guess what I'd choose.
Painful mistake, actually, isn't it? What a waste.
Thank you for your research. I googled for "linux" and "microsoft" in combination with "pornography", it seems that MS supports pornography too. Wow. Perhaps they are responsible for continental drift too, have to google it.
I guess we will never see a MS statement that follows another logic than "Give us all your $."
If I may quote you:
Nothing to add.
The original phrase's verb would be "cogitare", meaning "to think", 1st person singular is "cogito". Supposed you wanted to refer to something like "codere", take "codeo, ergo sum". BTW, there's a nice page to play around with latin vocab here.