I think what was so perfidious about the 9-11 incidents was that the attackers seemed to have achieved what could have been one of their goals: Disturbing a civil society to that extent that it questions its fundamentals and arrange its changing ideals around fear.
If somebody has attacked the basis of your community, and now it must be changed for defense - It's sad, but this is some strange kind of victory.
I am sorry for the trauma Americans are living with. It makes them do strange, cruel and even some stupid things from my point of view. Giving up privacy is such a thing.
Errmm, no. It's "We have detected a virus on cour card and you will be detained until there is reasonable and non-discriminatory..." etc etc, but wake up: Is it a card anyway? Isn't it more like a signature deposited at an obviously untrusted site?
Jokes are one thing. The thread mentions Mark Forman to be appointed, not elected. I thought of a joke like "Who's elected anyway in the US", and it might give some people a good laugh. At least me, for I don't happen to live in your country. But I think this is not the time for jokes.
The Brits had a huge fuzz going on about a similar initiative, as mentioned above in the thread. Guess you read the link. It seems to be time to speak upand complain to the right people. Good luck to you all. It's time to do something for your country, I guess. Don't wait too long.
Something I ask myself: I changed my sig yesterday, see for yourself. Can this be coincidece?
"Angie said her live-in boyfriend spends at least 30 hours a week playing "EverQuest" as a female elf--a character choice she finds "weird and disturbing"--
at the expense of housework".
I strongly suggest not to show them emacs or vi at all. Show them pico or mcedit, then they have the most important commands before their eyes. I love the emacs, and I do think that vi is important, e.g. when you find your self on a remote machine that only has busybox on it. But hey, there's man pages and info nodes. If they know they're not lost at the prompt, they probably will explore vi and emacs when they need or want to. Perhaps tell them to read about the different modes of vi before trying to use it. (Example)
Editors: mcedit is pretty much self-explaining and easy to use for Mickey(Mouse)Softies. mc as a whole is good help too if you don't give it too much importance. It's good for the few people that once used stuff like DOS Commander or NC.
Ever thought of forbidding people to remember letters they receive?
Everyone can log http requests to hos or her machine, so do you.Microsoft spying on us is different: They sell programs to you that establish internet connections without your consent, or send additional data along with your requests.
It's good to see ESR's statements stimulate discussions everywhere, no matter if we call him idiot or guru.
But I don't get this one: "Finally, anyone who has tried to get Linux up on a cheapie PC will know that it is far from simple."
Am I right that you have installed a Linux distribution recently? As for a typical home installation with low speed networking, I doubt that.
Most installations I was involved with worked just fine. I had some 5-6 six year-old scsi controllers, cheap stuff, and no drivers. I replaced them with other cheap scsi controllers.
Setting up a Linux machine usually works fine. There can be trouble sometimes, trouble that a windows user will never be bothered with.
But, to say it again, in most cases it works fine. How cheap do you want your computer to be? Is buying a different 20$ sound card such a big problem? Cheap parts can easily be replaced by other cheap parts. There are drivers too. Checking a hardware compatibility database at your vendor's site, is that such a big thing?
Saying that everybody knows that setting up Linux on a cheap machine is a widely known pain just isn't true anymore.
As with all work of art, the author should decide the license.Projects like this are often well documented. Why not contributing your thoughts yourself? See the documentation and write the authors.
I must admit, that's less convenient than posting on slashdot, but at least they would "hear from a user".
This "problem with PGP can perfectly be adressed with Aggressive Crypto Bombing, a game played by pairs of two people. One person is defined victim, one is the "bomber". First the "bomber" sends an encrypted email which he can not decrypt.
Then call the police. Be creative! Drugs, Terrorism, try not to sound funny.
Everybody does it. It's fun!
~~~~~~~~~ NO this was just a joke! Irony, satire. Laugh!
That depends on the user. I experience GNU/Linux users as being very picky.
But from a missionary and/or business viewpoint: Visually unifying communication to a broad user base. That's good. Add a compatible set of window bahaviour and Joe User can be told where to click what.
Slashdot Mirror
Linux is a washing powder, didn't you know? Those of you who don't believe me read, read or read
[your blabla]
"There are only two things that have come out of Berkeley; LSD and Unix. And that's NOT a coincidence!"
[/your blabla]
[myblabla]
LSD was discovered in Basel/Switzerland.
What about Steve Vai?
Which Unix do you refer to?
[/myblabla]
I ack your points on the subject though.
A passport. No more fumbling around for yet another document while travelling.
I think you will have to spell that with a capital "P" soon.
I think what was so perfidious about the 9-11 incidents was that the attackers seemed to have achieved what could have been one of their goals: Disturbing a civil society to that extent that it questions its fundamentals and arrange its changing ideals around fear.
If somebody has attacked the basis of your community, and now it must be changed for defense - It's sad, but this is some strange kind of victory.
I am sorry for the trauma Americans are living with. It makes them do strange, cruel and even some stupid things from my point of view. Giving up privacy is such a thing.
Errmm, no. It's "We have detected a virus on cour card and you will be detained until there is reasonable and non-discriminatory..." etc etc, but wake up: Is it a card anyway? Isn't it more like a signature deposited at an obviously untrusted site?
Jokes are one thing. The thread mentions Mark Forman to be appointed, not elected. I thought of a joke like "Who's elected anyway in the US", and it might give some people a good laugh. At least me, for I don't happen to live in your country. But I think this is not the time for jokes.
The Brits had a huge fuzz going on about a similar initiative, as mentioned above in the thread. Guess you read the link.
It seems to be time to speak upand complain to the right people.
Good luck to you all. It's time to do something for your country, I guess. Don't wait too long.
Something I ask myself: I changed my sig yesterday, see for yourself. Can this be coincidece?
What about clandestine video taping ... done by the government?
Perhaps you could sue them one day. No, I'm not funny, Mrs. Landrieu is. *gig*
Some links for anyone who's interested:
Not everyone at slashdot is so overwhelmingly well educated as you are, Lord Penis.
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read parent poster's nick if you ask yourself why I call him what he is.
Bash can be very addictive too. Or think of reboots. Some people seem to be reboot addicts. Reboot macht frei or something.
Parent has been modded funny. Could there be some truth in the joke?
Any expert on gender roles amongst elves in here?
I strongly suggest not to show them emacs or vi at all. Show them pico or mcedit, then they have the most important commands before their eyes. I love the emacs, and I do think that vi is important, e.g. when you find your self on a remote machine that only has busybox on it. But hey, there's man pages and info nodes. If they know they're not lost at the prompt, they probably will explore vi and emacs when they need or want to. Perhaps tell them to read about the different modes of vi before trying to use it. (Example)
Arrange a talk session. Show them how short the talk man page is, mention the age of the program. And please report about their reactions on
Editors: mcedit is pretty much self-explaining and easy to use for Mickey(Mouse)Softies. mc as a whole is good help too if you don't give it too much importance. It's good for the few people that once used stuff like DOS Commander or NC.
Ha, you are being funny.
Ever thought of forbidding people to remember letters they receive?
Everyone can log http requests to hos or her machine, so do you.Microsoft spying on us is different: They sell programs to you that establish internet connections without your consent, or send additional data along with your requests.
Can you see the difference?
I'd be glad if anyone could send me (solicited) information
about german law on that subject?
fr2ty@freemail.hu
th@nkj.hu!
You are right with the video card issue.
I was referring to the website of the vendor of your distro.
For example hardwaredb.suse.de
I didn't have to replace cheap parts very often yet.
It's good to see ESR's statements stimulate discussions everywhere,
no matter if we call him idiot or guru.
But I don't get this one:
"Finally, anyone who has tried to get Linux up on a cheapie PC will know that it is far from simple."
Am I right that you have installed a Linux distribution recently?
As for a typical home installation with low speed networking, I doubt that.
Most installations I was involved with worked just fine.
I had some 5-6 six year-old scsi controllers, cheap stuff, and no drivers.
I replaced them with other cheap scsi controllers.
Setting up a Linux machine usually works fine.
There can be trouble sometimes, trouble that a windows user will never be bothered with.
But, to say it again, in most cases it works fine.
How cheap do you want your computer to be?
Is buying a different 20$ sound card such a big problem?
Cheap parts can easily be replaced by other cheap parts. There are drivers too.
Checking a hardware compatibility database at your vendor's site, is that such a big thing?
Saying that everybody knows that setting up Linux on a cheap machine is a widely known pain just isn't true anymore.
And one day God will sue human kind to publish the source code of genome designed "derivative work".
He will lose this case against Microfart^H^H^H^Hsoft
A link, anyone?
No, not exactly. The Bundestag was and will again be bluescreened,
but some members of the Bundestag will still be "having fun".
Sure it's a good idea.
We can only speculate if it's good for africa,
but it's very good for the scientists and the fly breeders.
As with all work of art, the author should decide the
license.Projects like this are often well documented.
Why not contributing your thoughts yourself?
See the documentation and write the authors.
I must admit, that's less convenient than posting on slashdot,
but at least they would "hear from a user".
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$live 'dream'
This "problem with PGP can perfectly be adressed with Aggressive Crypto Bombing, a game played by pairs of two people. One person is defined victim, one is the "bomber". First the "bomber" sends an encrypted email which he can not decrypt.
Then call the police. Be creative! Drugs, Terrorism, try not to sound funny.
Everybody does it. It's fun!
~~~~~~~~~
NO this was just a joke! Irony, satire. Laugh!
That depends on the user.
I experience GNU/Linux users as being very picky.
But from a missionary and/or business viewpoint:
Visually unifying communication to a broad user base.
That's good.
Add a compatible set of window bahaviour
and Joe User can be told where to click what.
But not for my desktop. I am too picky.
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$ live'dream'
You are right, bur check your spelling.
Hint: 'Kuro5hin' is Here
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$ livedream