But if the access point MAC is not protected by a permission, there is no breach. The app only sends data that Android doesn't protect in any way, so it's public data. That location can be inferred from other things than GPS is not a surprise.
Did you reply to the wrong comment? I never used the word breach, nor did I imply it. Also on Android (not sure what versions) it IS protected by a permission (or at least the SSID is, not positive on the MAC). It's iOS that doesn't protect it (which is surprising since usually it's the other way around in cases like this). However just because it's not protected doesn't mean that using it in this way does not violate the Apple developer agreement. There are plenty of things an app can do that are against it but not outright blocked by the OS. The OS is not there to interpret the agreement, the Apple app team is who is supposed to do that.
Either way I think that it SHOULD be protected on both platforms, since apparently it does pose a privacy issue.
Apps can access the router name and MAC to know when you connect to a device to do a first time setup. A lot of IOT (*insert IOT rants here*) setup a temp hotspot that you connect to then use the app to configure it. It then shuts down the ad-hoc and connects to your local WiFi that you configure.
This obviously needs to be locked behind a permission prompt like location is. *sigh* This is why we can't have nice things....
AMD doesn't have anything available that competes at the high end performance wise, and hasn't for a very long time.
Umm... did you wake up from a coma recently?
As for low power, except at the extremely low end, intel chips require a lot less power than their AMD equivalent at the same performance level.
This isn't an AMD vs Intel argument, I'm talking about ARM. Intel has tried and failed to enter the cell phone market several times. ARM chips own the low power market and Intel doesn't have a single ARM chip.
AMD has nothing that can out-compete Intel on single thread performance, and even for multi-threaded performance ThreadRipper only beats Intel high end CPUs for extremely multi-threaded applications like rendering apps.
Cannot even find them in the Recycle Bin!!!! I didn't even thought that was possible on Windows!!!
If you don't even know enough about the OS you are developing on to understand stuff like this, I'm glad your work got wiped out to spare the people who would run it the torment to come.
That can be very dangerous if you get pushed into AMT due to the options conversion. You could end up with worthless stock and a 6-figure tax liability. This happened to a thousands of people during the last tech bubble bust. If it's a stable company then yes, but most times those big options packages (unless you are an exec) are coming from startups. No thank you. Convert and sell.
Only took AMD 15 months to finally get out a gpu to compete. Which means nivida has had 15months to develop a new gpu to stomp on them.
AMD might not be competing with NV in the gaming market, but they are still selling pretty much every damn board they can make as fast as they make them due to coin miner insanity so that should buy them some time revenue wise.
It depends on how the stock is awarded. If it's in options, for example, you don't get taxed until you exercise the option. Which is why you never, ever, ever exercise options then hold the stock, you always sell it right away. People got left holding massive 6 and 7 figure tax bills for worthless shares doing this when the last tech bubble burst.
So it's able to harvest enough power from radio signals to power the phone *in real time*? Including the screen?
I could understand a technology like this being used to *charge* phones, passively, but they would still require a battery. What happens if you momentarily enter a shielded area that radio waves cannot penetrate? Your phone just instantly dies? That would be terrible.
I *really* hope this is just marketing idiocy, and there is, in fact, a battery incorporated into the design of these devices.
You are forgetting that from it's inception until the very early 90's Sears already was what Amazon is today. They already had the logistics worked out, with stores, warehouses, and distribution hubs already in place across north america. They had already mastered what Amazon had to learn from scratch. They were the kings of the catalog business and that isn't very different at all from what Amazon does today, just with a different delivery medium (paper vs online) and a faster timeline. All they had to do was have the vision to see the future and transition their catalog sales to the internet. Had Sears embraced online retailing early the they would be a very different company today. Instead they stuck with their ways until it was too late.
Walmart etc isn't an auction site where I go into the store and put my items for sale however.
They're directly competing with you if you sell well on their site, it's a bit different.
Are you maybe confusing Amazon with eBay? Amazon is not an auction site by any stretch of the imagination. Now if you are talking about sites with third party sellers, then yes, actually walmart.com is exactly that. Thousands of third party sellers on there. Sears.com as well, btw.
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Yea but as far as privacy goes that's like jumping out of the pan and into the eternal flames of hell.
But if the access point MAC is not protected by a permission, there is no breach. The app only sends data that Android doesn't protect in any way, so it's public data. That location can be inferred from other things than GPS is not a surprise.
Did you reply to the wrong comment? I never used the word breach, nor did I imply it. Also on Android (not sure what versions) it IS protected by a permission (or at least the SSID is, not positive on the MAC). It's iOS that doesn't protect it (which is surprising since usually it's the other way around in cases like this). However just because it's not protected doesn't mean that using it in this way does not violate the Apple developer agreement. There are plenty of things an app can do that are against it but not outright blocked by the OS. The OS is not there to interpret the agreement, the Apple app team is who is supposed to do that.
Either way I think that it SHOULD be protected on both platforms, since apparently it does pose a privacy issue.
Display ads, don't steal user data.
...and offer me an option to buy an ad-free version. If your product is worth it, I will gladly pay a reasonable amount to get rid of the ads.
Apps can access the router name and MAC to know when you connect to a device to do a first time setup. A lot of IOT (*insert IOT rants here*) setup a temp hotspot that you connect to then use the app to configure it. It then shuts down the ad-hoc and connects to your local WiFi that you configure.
This obviously needs to be locked behind a permission prompt like location is. *sigh* This is why we can't have nice things....
What does that have to do with what he is talking about? DirecTV Now is an internet delivered OTT TV service. It doesn't use a dish.
AMD doesn't have anything available that competes at the high end performance wise, and hasn't for a very long time.
Umm... did you wake up from a coma recently?
As for low power, except at the extremely low end, intel chips require a lot less power than their AMD equivalent at the same performance level.
This isn't an AMD vs Intel argument, I'm talking about ARM. Intel has tried and failed to enter the cell phone market several times. ARM chips own the low power market and Intel doesn't have a single ARM chip.
AMD has nothing that can out-compete Intel on single thread performance, and even for multi-threaded performance ThreadRipper only beats Intel high end CPUs for extremely multi-threaded applications like rendering apps.
No, it's not. High end is all about performance, damn the price.
This is why I love AMD. Intel and nVidia start getting complacent then AMD punches them in the face until they catch up again.
LOL yea that Vega release was a real big blow to NVidia.
Lots of games are multi-threaded these days.
They need hardware too. Duh.
Bayer also lost the trademark to "Heroin".
Well that turned out to be short sighted. The war on heroin would be over today if Bayer could go after street dealers for trademark infringement!
No, it wouldn't.
Cannot even find them in the Recycle Bin!!!! I didn't even thought that was possible on Windows!!!
If you don't even know enough about the OS you are developing on to understand stuff like this, I'm glad your work got wiped out to spare the people who would run it the torment to come.
What happens to the data center when the ice melts?
They will just install stilts
That can be very dangerous if you get pushed into AMT due to the options conversion. You could end up with worthless stock and a 6-figure tax liability. This happened to a thousands of people during the last tech bubble bust. If it's a stable company then yes, but most times those big options packages (unless you are an exec) are coming from startups. No thank you. Convert and sell.
Hi little boy are you lost?
Only took AMD 15 months to finally get out a gpu to compete. Which means nivida has had 15months to develop a new gpu to stomp on them.
AMD might not be competing with NV in the gaming market, but they are still selling pretty much every damn board they can make as fast as they make them due to coin miner insanity so that should buy them some time revenue wise.
It's public knowledge they have a "doomsday" system already, and I'm sure the US knew about it well before it became public.
It depends on how the stock is awarded. If it's in options, for example, you don't get taxed until you exercise the option. Which is why you never, ever, ever exercise options then hold the stock, you always sell it right away. People got left holding massive 6 and 7 figure tax bills for worthless shares doing this when the last tech bubble burst.
Yes, just like solar cells taking in sunlight increase the output of the sun!
So it's able to harvest enough power from radio signals to power the phone *in real time*? Including the screen?
I could understand a technology like this being used to *charge* phones, passively, but they would still require a battery. What happens if you momentarily enter a shielded area that radio waves cannot penetrate? Your phone just instantly dies? That would be terrible.
I *really* hope this is just marketing idiocy, and there is, in fact, a battery incorporated into the design of these devices.
What screen? This isn't a smart phone, it's a very, VERY basic cell phone. No screen included: http://batteryfreephone.cs.washington.edu/
Oh, I see a market for this: nearly eternal listening devices for the governments of the world. Yay technology!
You are forgetting that from it's inception until the very early 90's Sears already was what Amazon is today. They already had the logistics worked out, with stores, warehouses, and distribution hubs already in place across north america. They had already mastered what Amazon had to learn from scratch. They were the kings of the catalog business and that isn't very different at all from what Amazon does today, just with a different delivery medium (paper vs online) and a faster timeline. All they had to do was have the vision to see the future and transition their catalog sales to the internet. Had Sears embraced online retailing early the they would be a very different company today. Instead they stuck with their ways until it was too late.
Sears *HAD* Craftsman, recently sold it though
Ah Sears, the company that should have been what Amazon is today, but instead is in a slow, inevitable death spiral instead.
Walmart etc isn't an auction site where I go into the store and put my items for sale however.
They're directly competing with you if you sell well on their site, it's a bit different.
Are you maybe confusing Amazon with eBay? Amazon is not an auction site by any stretch of the imagination. Now if you are talking about sites with third party sellers, then yes, actually walmart.com is exactly that. Thousands of third party sellers on there. Sears.com as well, btw.