but to believe that the other two are wanting to keep you the gamer happy versus pleasing their bottom line is the ultimate dreams come true scenario.
Forget the R&D - of course if you dilute that cost per console + factory tooling, etc the first model will be worth billions.
Sony and Microsoft had higher production cost than they were selling to retailers for for a while, pure production cost. Technology matures and production gets cheaper over time, but initially the costs were higher. They needed to price it competitively to gain market share, once thats in place you can change partners or whatever...
have you seen pricing along the lines of:
$XXX each for the first 1,000
$XX each for the next 10,000
$X each for the next million
You cannot get a manufacturer to agree straight away that you will definitely need a certain amount of a certain chip over say 5 years... You start paying more, and have contractual agreements that costs drop as they produce more for you.
I would say when you start having forced nationalisation is a sign you have moved into commie territory.
I wouldn't say "commie" - more a lack of stable, consistent legal and ownership system... communism never really existed, other than as a principle. what the USSR was, was predominantly extreme socialism with a hint of dictatorship (either an individual or a board of dictators if you will...).
the retroactive law changes that are taking place in "democratic" nations these days are really starting to worry me...
Mmmm... Amarone... Looking forward to a bottle of '98 tonight...
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What do you consider a computer? And why would you ever pay $3k for one? Back in the 90's yes, but today?
Sure you can go for multiple CPU, 16 gigs of ram and 4 24 inch full HD displays in landscape... that might just about reach the 3k figure...
I used to build my own machines up til about 2003 - my last one did cost me near that number, but that was idiocy on my part - a couple of designer LCD screens that made up 1/3 of the cost, several hard drived, top of the range CPU/PSU/MoBo/Cooler/Graphics card...
I've matured a little and though I have a lot of respect for some of the guys out there that push their hardware to the limit, for 99+% of the population, you go for the wonderful reality of the pareto paradox... You can get 80% of the all round performance for 20% of the price (specialist uses are excluded here of course, but $600 buys you a decent machine these days...)
When it comes down to it, it's simply energy density... The more you have stored in a finite space, the more potential for release there is and the greater that release could be...
I'm not saying its impossible to create something stable, all im saying is that certain conditions can have dramatic effects...
The amount of energy easily released by a tank of petrol (gas, whatever) is massive, but safety precautions that are taken now are fantastic compared to earlier days...
I'm sure there's a way to keep that energy trapped in a fairly safe way, but what I'm saying is there will be things going wrong once in a while and when they do, the greater the energy density, the greater the damage...
Instead I will question those that happen to eat Condors... Why exactly would you do that? They're not exactly tasty... Some depleted uranium might change that over the next few generations though... Good shout.
Chess has finally been solved to the point that there's now unbeatable AIs available to the average user (assuming it gets to move first)
There are no unbeatable AIs for chess yet, that would imply chess is a solved game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solving_chess). It doesn't make much of a difference who moves first, either.
DRL power consumption varies widely depending on the implementation. Traditional low beam headlights consume up to 180 W - with headlamps and all parking, tail, and marker lights on the overall power consumption for lights is in the range of 150 W to 200 W. Traditional dedicated DRL systems use low-power, high-efficacy light bulbs in the range of 5 W to 21 W - that is 10 W to 42 W for both lights. Current production DRL systems based on LED lights consume 6 to 15 watts.
0.2 litres per 100 km... Average american car achieves, what, 22.5 mpg? Thats excluding the light trucks a large proportion of people drive... so that's just over 10.4 Litres/100km - i.e. little less than 2% increase in load... With LEDs (as many firms are starting to fit them in Europe now) it can be a small fraction of 1%.
Well... Yeh... My most simplistic view is the worst possible thing a person can do from an environmentalist perspective is have a child as EVERYTHING a person does has an effect...
getting 50 megabit over here (48.8 is what the tests show)... 100 being rolled out soon and plans for 400 in the near future...
That's what watching movies is for...
but to believe that the other two are wanting to keep you the gamer happy versus pleasing their bottom line is the ultimate dreams come true scenario.
Forget the R&D - of course if you dilute that cost per console + factory tooling, etc the first model will be worth billions.
Sony and Microsoft had higher production cost than they were selling to retailers for for a while, pure production cost. Technology matures and production gets cheaper over time, but initially the costs were higher. They needed to price it competitively to gain market share, once thats in place you can change partners or whatever...
have you seen pricing along the lines of:
$XXX each for the first 1,000
$XX each for the next 10,000
$X each for the next million
You cannot get a manufacturer to agree straight away that you will definitely need a certain amount of a certain chip over say 5 years... You start paying more, and have contractual agreements that costs drop as they produce more for you.
Games consoles are sold at a loss...
PS3 - yes
XBOX360 - yes
Wii - No...
Each console sold is profitable, that's the beauty of the Wii not competing on hardware...
I would say when you start having forced nationalisation is a sign you have moved into commie territory.
I wouldn't say "commie" - more a lack of stable, consistent legal and ownership system... communism never really existed, other than as a principle. what the USSR was, was predominantly extreme socialism with a hint of dictatorship (either an individual or a board of dictators if you will...).
the retroactive law changes that are taking place in "democratic" nations these days are really starting to worry me...
You say "democratization" as if it's a good thing...
Just claim you're parodying Austin Powers:
"Bay-beh, it's the other, other white meat!"
Mmmm... Amarone... Looking forward to a bottle of '98 tonight...
What do you consider a computer? And why would you ever pay $3k for one? Back in the 90's yes, but today?
Sure you can go for multiple CPU, 16 gigs of ram and 4 24 inch full HD displays in landscape... that might just about reach the 3k figure...
I used to build my own machines up til about 2003 - my last one did cost me near that number, but that was idiocy on my part - a couple of designer LCD screens that made up 1/3 of the cost, several hard drived, top of the range CPU/PSU/MoBo/Cooler/Graphics card...
I've matured a little and though I have a lot of respect for some of the guys out there that push their hardware to the limit, for 99+% of the population, you go for the wonderful reality of the pareto paradox... You can get 80% of the all round performance for 20% of the price (specialist uses are excluded here of course, but $600 buys you a decent machine these days...)
In my day the charger weighed 50kg... You needed an 18-wheeler to drag the phone around
Should be a poll topic...
When it comes down to it, it's simply energy density... The more you have stored in a finite space, the more potential for release there is and the greater that release could be...
I'm not saying its impossible to create something stable, all im saying is that certain conditions can have dramatic effects...
The amount of energy easily released by a tank of petrol (gas, whatever) is massive, but safety precautions that are taken now are fantastic compared to earlier days...
I'm sure there's a way to keep that energy trapped in a fairly safe way, but what I'm saying is there will be things going wrong once in a while and when they do, the greater the energy density, the greater the damage...
Ha...
Don't worry, they'll be solar powered...
Ha!
Wish I could mod this up...
Instead I will question those that happen to eat Condors... Why exactly would you do that? They're not exactly tasty... Some depleted uranium might change that over the next few generations though... Good shout.
PO-TAY-TOE, PO-TAAH-TOE... It's all electricity to me...
Chess has finally been solved to the point that there's now unbeatable AIs available to the average user (assuming it gets to move first)
There are no unbeatable AIs for chess yet, that would imply chess is a solved game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solving_chess). It doesn't make much of a difference who moves first, either.
He said "average user"...
Do they really think that people want to carry a separate portable gaming device, media player, and pda or smart phone in this day and age?
Yes.
fantastic comparison! kudos
I think the motivator of "If you fall asleep you die" should be sufficient to keep him alert...
They're doing it now to avoid the sunspots of 2013 - http://www.physorg.com/news161026403.html
"Your write"
DRL power consumption varies widely depending on the implementation. Traditional low beam headlights consume up to 180 W - with headlamps and all parking, tail, and marker lights on the overall power consumption for lights is in the range of 150 W to 200 W. Traditional dedicated DRL systems use low-power, high-efficacy light bulbs in the range of 5 W to 21 W - that is 10 W to 42 W for both lights. Current production DRL systems based on LED lights consume 6 to 15 watts.
0.2 litres per 100 km... Average american car achieves, what, 22.5 mpg? Thats excluding the light trucks a large proportion of people drive... so that's just over 10.4 Litres/100km - i.e. little less than 2% increase in load... With LEDs (as many firms are starting to fit them in Europe now) it can be a small fraction of 1%.
My conclusions are drawn.
Well... Yeh... My most simplistic view is the worst possible thing a person can do from an environmentalist perspective is have a child as EVERYTHING a person does has an effect...
I still blame BP, as I made very clear...