It is running right now, the real issue is fuel, and this does kinda throw a monkey wrench into spending billions on ITER .
We know where the fuel is, and so do the chinese, and I feel it is a large part of their interest in a return to the moon .
Helium-3 is placed there by the sun over time .
At current oil prices, 1 Kilogram of Helium-3 as fuel = over 4 million USD of oil .
I think robotically mining the moon is the way to get it, and of course ppl will flip out and want to save the natural habitat of the moon...
To them I say take a stand, either it is oil, and more wars in the middle east, or we look for any viable alternative that may also take us into space .
I think it is worth it, and so do a lot of scientists .
Keep in mind this type of fusion does not radioactively contaminate the reactor .
24 hours after a shutdown, you could enter the reactor chamber .
Zero pollution Fusion is in our grasp, and one is running in wisconsin now .
The chinese rush to expansion and industrialization has a hunger to feed based on the 150 year captivity of hong kong, and I don't think it will be soon forgotten .
As a nation we need to re-evaluate sending most of our money out of the country .
Not just to china, but to all nations that have poor relations with us such as mexico .
If you have to buy your friends, they are not really your friends .
First let me say, while your post is off topic, it needed to be said.
Secondly I could not agree more with 90% of what you had to say, and our politically correct pansies are gonna be the death of us all.
the big globalization success story is the way the Saudis have taken what was eighty years ago a severe but obscure and unimportant strain of Islam practiced by Bedouins of no fixed abode and successfully exported it to the heart of Copenhagen, Rotterdam, Manchester, Buffalo...
This statement I have a different perspective on, and here is why.
The US was not targetted by the Saudi's to import religion here.
We turned our schools into profit centers, 100's of thousands of foreign students to attend schools in the US at rates SEVERAL times higher than for citizens.
Some of the students stayed and got jobs, and got worker visa's.
Some just did what came natural and had sex on US soil, BOING a US citizen instant 18 year visa , welcome to america !!!
So in my humble opinion most of the Foreign Nationals on new soil are there because we either pandered work visas or higher education at a higher rate.
The side effect is 30,000 young middle eastern men on US soil with expired visa's. Not to worry, the FBI is on the job....yeah right....truly sad.
If you read the 9-11 investigation the FBI looks like a bunch of idiots, and some their muslim co-workers border on treason.
I personally have an idea what to do with this member of the FBI, but they might kill me for it.
I guess they can't remember the german infiltrators of WWII on US soil. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
The "free world," as the Americans called it, was a free ride for everyone else.
Oh Dear god...your dead on there. I don't think the world knows how much money the american tax payers paid in to maintain and then end the cold war.
This generation doesn't have the stomach for it . More and more ppl I know here are deciding to not have children, I am one of them at age 39 that will not have kids....ever.
It is just too damn expensive, and it just takes a call from an angry neighbor to have DHS knocking on your door wanting to do a house inspection with a armed officer in tow.
No kids for me, my family line ends right here.
EU will manifest themselves in the usual way, and that by 2010 we'll be watching burning buildings, street riots, and assassinations on American network news every night.
In 2005 we were watching all the above in france except for the killing part, just some poor bloke trying to douse a burning dumpster got beat to death. And as a commoner its ok, and we must empathize with our disgruntled bus burning muslim brothers........gimme a break.
Bottom line for Cameron Diaz: There are worse things than John Ashcroft out there.
As a former member of the US military that served overseas I cannot agree with this statement enough. The coddled and pampered naive evian drinkers do not know that they are labelled as dhimmi's by the muslims.
Death penalty-In certain schools of Islamic jurisprudence, if a Jew or Christian is convicted of killing a Muslim, the sentence is death, while if a Muslim is convicted of killing a Jew or Christian, the sentence is at most a fine. The following extract from Sahih Al-Bukhari (Hadith 9.50; Narrated by Abu Juhaifa) supports this view:
Maybe as Dhimmi's we can all wear pretty little yellow stars of david as a symbol of unity...
Even in so called modern india 200 women considered untouchables were allowed to be raped for REAL over and over by a thug that was paying off local police for over a decade.
Perhaps a nearby supernova that hits the earth with a medium strength GRB wiping out almost all life with residual radiation for extended period of time .
One white dwarf is close enough to us right now that if it went supernova this could happen , but fortunately it is moving away from us, and it looks like we have some time .
...Is his comment that they are going to target all peer 2 peer with this crap .
I know virii were out there before, but this seems a tad more insidious .
The disabling and bypassing of all know anti-virus software is their goal as well .
Virii often were for just the point of overloading a network or taking a PC down .
These don't want your PC down they want total remote control of it and want to keylog your credit cards, and your passwords and want to financially rape you .
I have had several clients of late that have had remote access type spyware, and had keyloggers paired in with it, and their anti-virus and spybot unable to update .
It is getting pretty bad compared to just a cpl of years ago .
I think the paper is relevant if self appreciative of the submitter .
The Stock Market correction of 2000 and then 9-11, was more massive then I think you can imagine, it bankrupted most of the major airlines in the US .
Just now we have risen to the point we were at before 9-11, aka the same spot we were at after the DOT COM crash .
Lay offs were literally in the millions .
Do you understand " MILLIONS "
They like to make like it has "recovered", but all that has really happened is a shell game . It's all bullshit, just like Enron, Global Crossing, MCI, Ad naseum .
Greenspan knows this, thus his warning on a housing bubble .
That job fell to Greenspan: Finally, on Feb. 24, testifying before the Senate Banking Committee, he came clean about the risks of the housing market, in a speech reminiscent of his 1996 warning about "irrational exuberance" in the stock market. In his familiar, glum posture, his bald head slouching low over the table, he warned that the GSEs weren't just unstable, but also posed a "systemic risk" to the economy of the United States. He suggested debt caps, to reduce Fannie and Freddie's role in the market, and urged stricter regulation.
These EXACT tactics have played out before, but we refuse to look back to 1929 .
I can pretty much guarantee the ppl that used to work for GM and Delphi and the other associated suppliers may decide to not buy GM cars in the future .
As more ppl are offered up on the sacrifical altar of globalization here in the "overpaid" US it might just boomerang on them as friends and families decide to not buy their products anymore .
Why pay a US company to send your money overseas when you can just send it straight overseas without lining the pockets of US corporate whore CEO/COO/CIO's with multi-million dollar salaries .
Interestingly I heard someone talking about this on the radio news on the way home today. The reasoning they gave for decreasing 'importing' people was that a lowering in wages was decreasing the desirability of IT courses to Australians (compared to other courses) and therefore Australia is producing fewer IT workers now. So, according to him at least, the "importing" of foreign IT workers was a cause of under producing native workers and getting more would in fact make the problem worse, as sort of a vicious circle.
This is so totally dead on .
Enrollment in IT related fields in the US by citizens is staggering low, so low in fact that the majority of students are not citizens in those classes .
In fact a professor here commented he had one class that had zero citizens in it, and asked the question "Are we paying taxes to fund schools to train our replacements ???"
But who's to say that the Aulstralians should have so much more money, per capita, than the Chinese?
Money is a fake system, and it is a delicate balancing act .
No tangible object represents the paper money after the world went off the gold standard .
For the chinese to have more money per capita all they need to do is stay their current course, and crush the economies of the US and EU .
This is well under way .
All manufacturing will cease in the US in the not too distant future if the protections for it are 100% lifted .
GM recently closed 9 of their major facilities across the US, as Delphi is a supplier, the domino effect has already begun and they followed suit.
The ppl that had jobs in those towns who cannot find work may declare bankruptcy, and lose their homes, cars, and pay what little money they have left in legal fees .
This starts a housing bubble situation as predicted by Greenspan .
For the US workers to "compete" we would have to trash most US labor laws, and work for half what we do now, and could not afford to pay our current bills/taxes .
Massive deflation, somewhat like the Great Depression would likely occur .
An asymptotical narrowing of wealth disparity between the countries
With close to 3 billion ppl living in poverty by US/EU standards, to "equalize" the pay scale, property values will plumment, and the currency will be devalued to levels that deflation will cripple the US/EU .
I cannot say it enough, any job can be done by someone else from another country for less, and they are more than eager to do it .
If every job in your country was systematically done by a corporate owned visa worker, none of the citizens would have jobs .
How the hell would anyone pay their bills ???
I am not talking about one EU member working in a sister "state"
I am talking about corporate slums like in the bradford riots .
The local economy = everything produced locally. More skilled workers = more produced locally = economy grows.
Yet again,
The shell game, you can get a different job, ad naseum .
How many degrees will you have to get to "keep getting new jobs", When the old one is "SOLD OUT" .
When does the cost of the new degrees exceed the pay from restarting your career everytime the "corpocracy" decides to sell your job to ANYONE who will work for less .
Under this theory, if they can do any job for less, then they will do ALL jobs for less, and thus their will be no jobs for workers that are citizens .
Your grandfather or great grandfather may have died for your country, but that doesn't matter anymore .
Now, wihile said deluge certainly won't the devastate local economy, it certainly can devastate those displaced workers foolish enough to cling to the idea they are somehow owed a job in their former industry.
I don't need a job, I own my own company now .
I am not so moronic that I cannot see that total replacement of all citizens by L1 visa workers living in corporate owned slums sending most of their pay back to their home country would have a negative impact .
During this time my and other London guest worker's corporate housing was frequently without heat, hot water and electricity.
I do not blame the ppl of other nations for wanting to get money to take care of their families, but I think they and their country would be better off in the long run fixing their country rather than picking the low hanging fruit off their neighbor's trees .
Like you pointed out (and this is the part I liked), this can be pretty messy if it happens overnight, because the original IT workers who are losing jobs and seeing less in their paychecks will just be SOL. Costs might be lower for everybody, but it may be a net loss the the family depending on a sysadmin's (now decreased) income. The breadwinner might have to retrain or change jobs into a new field in order to get back his/her original income level.
I like to apply the simplicity method to this .
And to me that is this, if they can do ANYTHING we do for less, then they will doing all the jobs we do for less than we do under the simple fact that they will work for less .
As there is no minimum wage in some of the competing countries...
So abolish minimum wage, and let americans work for 90 cents an hour so we can "compete"
Simplicity applies again here, try to afford a house or car on 90 cents an hour .
So you see property values plumment as massive deflation grips the nation .
Greenspan warned of this, and this is part of the formula for the housing bubble.
I don't like all of Greenspan's thinking, but he was right on this one IMHO, time will tell.
I cannot speak to the levels with which I agree with your assessment of this persons neo-globalization tripe.
You cannot have a fair, equal, and equitable relationship with nations that do not have the same labor laws . Unequal ground = Unequal Terms .
If I were to run a company on US soil the same way one is run in China or other countries I would be taken to court, fined, or possibly jailed if ppl were pissed enough .
This is about one thing, and that is MONEY, aka good old greed .
It always has been, and it always will be, "period" .
Extortion and manipulation of resources of ppl, aka human futures for the stock market .
Fle$h for sale .
The ppl that support the globalization tripe are most likely to profit/benefit from it thus their perspective is skewed .
Globalization is how the country of france was almost burned to the ground, Globalization is how riots have occured in the UK:
I have worked for close to 30 years, and I have found lately that the bottom line is king .
A lot of the reason ppl are being hired from overseas is cost, not quality .
Don't get me wrong, some are quality ppl, I met some good and some bad while at cisco systems .
There is a perception that americans are fat and lazy, and I have met them too, but then again I have met ppl that were awesome, but were paid very little because they were young .
I also see that older ppl are generally not accepted into the tech sector as being considered unable to embrace new things and stuck in their ways .
Some old school telecom ppl got screwed on this HR techno-babble mental mindwash .
They need to just test the ppl, and have technical interviews in addition to the personality assessment done by HR .
I have seen ppl hired at cisco that were pathethic , and they stayed even after the DOT bust and ppl that stayed and left were both utterly amazed by it .
For the big corporations the accountants are driving them now, and 3dfx is a good example of what happens when accountants and marketing droids take over .
Like I said, don't get me wrong, good ppl on both sides of the ocean, but some of the most experienced ppl in the tech sector are being driven away by new visa workers just for the cost savings .
As an american you can go apply at some of the foreign IT head hunter shops and no matter your credentials you won't even get an interview .
They want ppl they can leverage with fear of being sent back home as well, knowing it is the difference between a 3rd world job or being here making more than they would in their resident country by far .
The flaw I see in this is that if money is made here, but most of it sent out of the country to support their family back home, then money that would go into the economy here ends up being sent out and deflating our economy .
They cry about a trade deficit, but they themselves employ foreign workers who send a great deal of money home . "Just" sent via Western Union, "just" to mexico $6 billion USD .
I don't know how many ppl from other countries work here, but I know the figure is in the millions, and I know it is from MANY nations . I also know generally the mexicans make the least as well . So with that in mind, you can guesstimate the math .
When the corporations whine about the trade deficit, they can keep this in mind .
As for the government puppets protecting US jobs, that is a bunch of BS , and they should all be flown to hollywood to pick up their oscar awards .
Zero Point Energy (ZPE), or vacuum fluctuation energy are terms used to describe the random electromagnetic oscillations that are left in a vacuum after all other energy has been removed. If you remove all the energy from a space, take out all the matter, all the heat, all the light... everything -- you will find that there is still some energy left. One way to explain this is from the uncertainty principle from quantum physics that implies that it is impossible to have an absolutely zero energy condition.
Add up the energy for all those different frequencies of light and the amount of energy in a given space is enormous, even mind boggling, ranging from 10^36 to 10^70 Joules/m3.
If you choose to call the research scientists at NASA quacks, that is your prerogative.
Zero Point energy absolutley sounds like fairy tale science, but every once in a blue moon something comes along that truly stuns the world .
Like Warp Drive research being funded with this concept at the root of it .
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Also remember that if you are creating value without getting a reward, you are a loser. And if you complain about it on a website, you are a wanker.
I guess you feel this way about all displaced workers .
So I offer you the title of "Largest Prick in the Universe !"
I don't hope to put a chink in the armor of your parasitic elitism,
but I can sure let you know that if I met you in real life you'd remember it .
Ex-MislTech
Free Lunch , no but I think the ppl in wisconsin have a better idea :
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http://fti.neep.wisc.edu/Research/iec.html
It is running right now, the real issue is fuel, and this does kinda
throw a monkey wrench into spending billions on ITER .
We know where the fuel is, and so do the chinese, and I feel it is a large
part of their interest in a return to the moon .
Helium-3 is placed there by the sun over time .
At current oil prices, 1 Kilogram of Helium-3 as fuel = over 4 million USD of oil .
I think robotically mining the moon is the way to get it, and of course ppl
will flip out and want to save the natural habitat of the moon...
To them I say take a stand, either it is oil, and more wars in the middle east,
or we look for any viable alternative that may also take us into space .
I think it is worth it, and so do a lot of scientists .
Keep in mind this type of fusion does not radioactively contaminate the reactor .
24 hours after a shutdown, you could enter the reactor chamber .
Zero pollution Fusion is in our grasp, and one is running in wisconsin now .
Hope for the future
Ex-MislTech
scentence ... I think you mean sentence .
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Well if you have bad things to say about the way things are done in china as a chinese,
you might experience something like this :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4515197.s
The chinese rush to expansion and industrialization has a hunger to feed based on the
150 year captivity of hong kong, and I don't think it will be soon forgotten .
As a nation we need to re-evaluate sending most of our money out of the country .
Not just to china, but to all nations that have poor relations with us such as mexico .
If you have to buy your friends, they are not really your friends .
Ex-MislTech
First let me say, while your post is off topic, it needed to be said .
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Secondly I could not agree more with 90% of what you had to say, and our
politically correct pansies are gonna be the death of us all
the big globalization success story is the way the Saudis have taken what was eighty years ago a severe but obscure and unimportant strain of Islam practiced by Bedouins of no fixed abode and successfully exported it to the heart of Copenhagen, Rotterdam, Manchester, Buffalo
This statement I have a different perspective on, and here is why
The US was not targetted by the Saudi's to import religion here
We turned our schools into profit centers, 100's of thousands of foreign students to attend
schools in the US at rates SEVERAL times higher than for citizens
Some of the students stayed and got jobs, and got worker visa's
Some just did what came natural and had sex on US soil, BOING a US citizen
instant 18 year visa , welcome to america !!!
So in my humble opinion most of the Foreign Nationals on new soil are there because
we either pandered work visas or higher education at a higher rate
The side effect is 30,000 young middle eastern men on US soil with expired visa's
Not to worry, the FBI is on the job....yeah right
If you read the 9-11 investigation the FBI looks like a bunch of idiots, and
some their muslim co-workers border on treason
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.a sp?ID=20487
I personally have an idea what to do with this member of the FBI, but they might kill me for it
I guess they can't remember the german infiltrators of WWII on US soil
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it
The "free world," as the Americans called it, was a free ride for everyone else.
Oh Dear god...your dead on there. I don't think the world knows how much money the
american tax payers paid in to maintain and then end the cold war
This generation doesn't have the stomach for it . More and more ppl I know here are deciding
to not have children, I am one of them at age 39 that will not have kids
It is just too damn expensive, and it just takes a call from an angry neighbor to have
DHS knocking on your door wanting to do a house inspection with a armed officer in tow
No kids for me, my family line ends right here
EU will manifest themselves in the usual way, and that by 2010 we'll be watching burning buildings, street riots, and assassinations on American network news every night.
In 2005 we were watching all the above in france except for the killing part,
just some poor bloke trying to douse a burning dumpster got beat to death.
And as a commoner its ok, and we must empathize with our disgruntled bus
burning muslim brothers........gimme a break.
Bottom line for Cameron Diaz: There are worse things than John Ashcroft out there.
As a former member of the US military that served overseas I cannot agree with
this statement enough. The coddled and pampered naive evian drinkers do not know
that they are labelled as dhimmi's by the muslims
Death penalty-In certain schools of Islamic jurisprudence, if a Jew or Christian is convicted of killing a Muslim, the sentence is death, while if a Muslim is convicted of killing a Jew or Christian, the sentence is at most a fine. The following extract from Sahih Al-Bukhari (Hadith 9.50; Narrated by Abu Juhaifa) supports this view:
Maybe as Dhimmi's we can all wear pretty little yellow stars of david as a symbol of unity...
Even in so called modern india 200 women considered untouchables were allowed to be raped
for REAL over and over by a thug that was paying off local police for over a decade.
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Perhaps a nearby supernova that hits the earth with a medium strength GRB wiping out
almost all life with residual radiation for extended period of time .
One white dwarf is close enough to us right now that if it went supernova this could
happen , but fortunately it is moving away from us, and it looks like we have some time .
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2311
A DNA bank might be a good idea of all life on earth, kind of a bio repository catalgue .
Ex-MislTech
I am seeing they are using a new form of attack via embedding spyware
on machines that force pop-ups/pop-ins .
Some of this new stuff even disables pop-up blockers, spybot, and
anti-virus software .
Firefox seems to work well against it for now, but they are making
flash and java based critters in the near future is the buzz .
Ex-MislTech
...Is his comment that they are going to target all peer 2 peer with this crap .
I know virii were out there before, but this seems a tad more insidious .
The disabling and bypassing of all know anti-virus software is their goal as well .
Virii often were for just the point of overloading a network or taking a PC down .
These don't want your PC down they want total remote control of it and want to
keylog your credit cards, and your passwords and want to financially rape you .
I have had several clients of late that have had remote access type spyware,
and had keyloggers paired in with it, and their anti-virus and spybot unable to update .
It is getting pretty bad compared to just a cpl of years ago .
I think the paper is relevant if self appreciative of the submitter .
Ex-MislTech
You do realize that the US as a whole has grown wealthier, not poorer, right?
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The Ultra-rich have accumulated more wealth, yes, this is true .
News stories have been done on the vanishing middle class :
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34
The Stock Market correction of 2000 and then 9-11, was more massive then I think you
can imagine, it bankrupted most of the major airlines in the US .
Just now we have risen to the point we were at before 9-11, aka
the same spot we were at after the DOT COM crash .
Lay offs were literally in the millions .
Do you understand " MILLIONS "
They like to make like it has "recovered", but all that has really happened is
a shell game . It's all bullshit, just like Enron, Global Crossing, MCI, Ad naseum .
Greenspan knows this, thus his warning on a housing bubble .
Excerpt: ( 4 paragraphs up from the last )
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/04
That job fell to Greenspan: Finally, on Feb. 24, testifying before the Senate Banking Committee, he came clean about the risks of the housing market, in a speech reminiscent of his 1996 warning about "irrational exuberance" in the stock market. In his familiar, glum posture, his bald head slouching low over the table, he warned that the GSEs weren't just unstable, but also posed a "systemic risk" to the economy of the United States. He suggested debt caps, to reduce Fannie and Freddie's role in the market, and urged stricter regulation.
These EXACT tactics have played out before, but we refuse to look back to 1929 .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_depression#Cau
They want to maximize the profit, raise the stock price, lower overhead
I go back to the simplicity method .
If anyone can do any job here for less, then no citizen will be doing the job if the
bottomline is all to consider .
corporate funded slums to house the visa workers, because they aren't even paid enough to
afford the housing that the citizens have to pay for .
Read this woman's story :
http://wwwa.house.gov/international_relations/108
Ex-MislTech
You recite your school books with flawless accuracy, but I think they may have
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forgotten an important lesson .
One that is easy to read if you simply look back in time and decide to
learn from history, or doom yourself to repeat it .
I think perhaps some modern school books have left out this most painful lesson .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_depression#Cau
I can pretty much guarantee the ppl that used to work for GM and Delphi and
the other associated suppliers may decide to not buy GM cars in the future .
As more ppl are offered up on the sacrifical altar of globalization here
in the "overpaid" US it might just boomerang on them as friends and families
decide to not buy their products anymore .
Why pay a US company to send your money overseas when you can just send it
straight overseas without lining the pockets of US corporate whore CEO/COO/CIO's with
multi-million dollar salaries .
Ex-MislTech
Interestingly I heard someone talking about this on the radio news on the way home today. The reasoning they gave for decreasing 'importing' people was that a lowering in wages was decreasing the desirability of IT courses to Australians (compared to other courses) and therefore Australia is producing fewer IT workers now. So, according to him at least, the "importing" of foreign IT workers was a cause of under producing native workers and getting more would in fact make the problem worse, as sort of a vicious circle.
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This is so totally dead on .
Enrollment in IT related fields in the US by citizens is staggering low, so low in fact that the
majority of students are not citizens in those classes .
In fact a professor here commented he had one class that had zero citizens in it, and asked the
question "Are we paying taxes to fund schools to train our replacements ???"
I think it is a pretty interesting question
Ex-MislTech
But who's to say that the Aulstralians should have so much more money, per capita, than the Chinese?
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Money is a fake system, and it is a delicate balancing act .
No tangible object represents the paper money after the world went off the gold standard .
For the chinese to have more money per capita all they need to do is stay their current
course, and crush the economies of the US and EU .
This is well under way .
All manufacturing will cease in the US in the not too distant future if the protections
for it are 100% lifted .
GM recently closed 9 of their major facilities across the US, as Delphi is a supplier,
the domino effect has already begun and they followed suit.
The ppl that had jobs in those towns who cannot find work may declare bankruptcy, and
lose their homes, cars, and pay what little money they have left in legal fees .
This starts a housing bubble situation as predicted by Greenspan .
For the US workers to "compete" we would have to trash most US labor laws, and work
for half what we do now, and could not afford to pay our current bills/taxes .
Massive deflation, somewhat like the Great Depression would likely occur .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_depression#Cau
If all major US corporations push for this race to the bottom, then they
will indeed find the bottom .
Corporate Cannibalism is what is alikened to IMHO .
This woman's story tells the tale well .
http://wwwa.house.gov/international_relations/108
Ex-MislTech
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With close to 3 billion ppl living in poverty by US/EU standards, to "equalize"
the pay scale, property values will plumment, and the currency will be devalued
to levels that deflation will cripple the US/EU .
I cannot say it enough, any job can be done by someone else from another country
for less, and they are more than eager to do it .
If every job in your country was systematically done by a corporate owned visa worker,
none of the citizens would have jobs .
How the hell would anyone pay their bills ???
I am not talking about one EU member working in a sister "state"
I am talking about corporate slums like in the bradford riots .
Like what this women is talking about .
http://wwwa.house.gov/international_relations/108
If you still try to sell this, then your just on the cash cow and
sucking away at the udder til the tit runs dry .
The US, the place everyone loves to hate, and wants to work !
Hypocrisy !
Ex-MislTech
Bzzzt! Return to Econ 101.
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The local economy = everything produced locally. More skilled workers = more produced locally = economy grows.
Yet again,
The shell game, you can get a different job, ad naseum .
How many degrees will you have to get to "keep getting new jobs",
When the old one is "SOLD OUT" .
When does the cost of the new degrees exceed the pay from
restarting your career everytime the "corpocracy" decides to
sell your job to ANYONE who will work for less .
Under this theory, if they can do any job for less, then they
will do ALL jobs for less, and thus their will be no jobs for
workers that are citizens .
Your grandfather or great grandfather may have died for your
country, but that doesn't matter anymore .
Business as usual, the bottom line is to be fed .
Greed wins again .
http://www.engology.com/E-News1375.htm
Now, wihile said deluge certainly won't the devastate local economy, it certainly can devastate those displaced workers foolish enough to cling to the idea they are somehow owed a job in their former industry.
I don't need a job, I own my own company now .
I am not so moronic that I cannot see that total replacement of all citizens by
L1 visa workers living in corporate owned slums sending most of their pay back
to their home country would have a negative impact .
During this time my and other London guest worker's corporate housing was frequently without heat, hot water and electricity.
http://wwwa.house.gov/international_relations/108
I do not blame the ppl of other nations for wanting to get money to take care
of their families, but I think they and their country would be better off in the long run
fixing their country rather than picking the low hanging fruit off their neighbor's trees .
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Ex-MislTech
My point is that censoring the internet is stupid .
Closing Myspace will just send them elsewhere, pot was sold world wide
before there was an internet and it will if it was shutdown .
the naturally growing week has almost none of the active ingredient. Your point is invalid.
Week is a period of time as well...but you knew that already .
Keep in mind, "k" is no where near "d" on your keyboard .
So how did you miss type it ??? Or is your brain out of sync ???
Ex-MislTech
Like you pointed out (and this is the part I liked), this can be pretty messy if it happens overnight, because the original IT workers who are losing jobs and seeing less in their paychecks will just be SOL. Costs might be lower for everybody, but it may be a net loss the the family depending on a sysadmin's (now decreased) income. The breadwinner might have to retrain or change jobs into a new field in order to get back his/her original income level.
...
I like to apply the simplicity method to this .
And to me that is this, if they can do ANYTHING we do for less, then they will doing all
the jobs we do for less than we do under the simple fact that they will work for less .
As there is no minimum wage in some of the competing countries
So abolish minimum wage, and let americans work for 90 cents an hour so we can "compete"
Simplicity applies again here, try to afford a house or car on 90 cents an hour .
So you see property values plumment as massive deflation grips the nation .
Greenspan warned of this, and this is part of the formula for the housing bubble.
I don't like all of Greenspan's thinking, but he was right on this one IMHO, time will tell.
Ex-Mislech
I cannot speak to the levels with which I agree with your assessment of this persons
neo-globalization tripe.
You cannot have a fair, equal, and equitable relationship with nations that do not
have the same labor laws . Unequal ground = Unequal Terms .
If I were to run a company on US soil the same way one is run in China or other
countries I would be taken to court, fined, or possibly jailed if ppl were pissed enough .
This is about one thing, and that is MONEY, aka good old greed .
It always has been, and it always will be, "period" .
Extortion and manipulation of resources of ppl, aka human futures for the stock market .
Fle$h for sale .
The ppl that support the globalization tripe are most likely to profit/benefit from it
thus their perspective is skewed .
Globalization is how the country of france was almost burned to the ground, Globalization
is how riots have occured in the UK:
http://www.writewords.org.uk/archive/200.asp
Didn't hear about them I suppose ????
Mum's the word, keep the profits up mate !!!
Ex-MislTech
Funny,
I have worked for close to 30 years, and I have found lately that the bottom line is king .
A lot of the reason ppl are being hired from overseas is cost, not quality .
Don't get me wrong, some are quality ppl, I met some good and some bad while at cisco systems .
There is a perception that americans are fat and lazy, and I have met them too, but then again
I have met ppl that were awesome, but were paid very little because they were young .
I also see that older ppl are generally not accepted into the tech sector as being
considered unable to embrace new things and stuck in their ways .
Some old school telecom ppl got screwed on this HR techno-babble mental mindwash .
They need to just test the ppl, and have technical interviews in addition to the
personality assessment done by HR .
I have seen ppl hired at cisco that were pathethic , and they stayed even after the
DOT bust and ppl that stayed and left were both utterly amazed by it .
For the big corporations the accountants are driving them now, and 3dfx is a good
example of what happens when accountants and marketing droids take over .
Like I said, don't get me wrong, good ppl on both sides of the ocean, but some of the
most experienced ppl in the tech sector are being driven away by new visa workers
just for the cost savings .
As an american you can go apply at some of the foreign IT head hunter shops and no
matter your credentials you won't even get an interview .
They want ppl they can leverage with fear of being sent back home as well, knowing
it is the difference between a 3rd world job or being here making more than they would
in their resident country by far .
The flaw I see in this is that if money is made here, but most of it sent out of the country
to support their family back home, then money that would go into the economy here ends up
being sent out and deflating our economy .
They cry about a trade deficit, but they themselves employ foreign workers who send a great
deal of money home . "Just" sent via Western Union, "just" to mexico $6 billion USD .
http://www.businessweek.com/1997/19/b3526155.htm
I don't know how many ppl from other countries work here, but I know the figure is in the
millions, and I know it is from MANY nations . I also know generally the mexicans make
the least as well . So with that in mind, you can guesstimate the math .
When the corporations whine about the trade deficit, they can keep this in mind .
As for the government puppets protecting US jobs, that is a bunch of BS , and they should
all be flown to hollywood to pick up their oscar awards .
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Yes, without myspace it will be impossible for him to get drugs .
... They have IRC chat rooms, they have yahoo chat rooms,
You wish
the have websites, they have blogs .
So....it's the evil internet !!! censor it all !!! shut it down !!!
Bad news again, they can just go to any high school in america
and the person wearing the hemp clothing will prolly sell them
all the pot they want .
A war on a drug the grows naturally on the side of the road in kansas
is going to have limited success .
Ex-MislTech
You do want your country to be in a position where we are making a choice between feeding the population, or fueling our vehicles.
w ww.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html+universi ty+of+new+hampshire+bio+diesel&hl=en
That is not the case if you consider the algae approach, read this study to get the facts .
This is a cached link, as all of UNH website is down for some reason :
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:NOUchCAcb2gJ:
They suggest using the equivalent of 12% of the sonora desert to achieve total fossil fuel
replacement in the US .
More excellent information concerning the NEW facts on bio-diesel are found on wikipedia .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bio-diesel
Enjoy !
Ex-MislTech
Taking a more educated approach you have to look at the modern scientific research
o ssible.html#vac
that has been done in regards to the Casimir Effect .
http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/15/9/6
Merely one of the modern day brilliant scientists looking into this efect is Puthoff .
http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/putnasa.htm
Please read the references at bottom of the page, discredit one doubtful, all ludicrously so .
Excerpt of nasa study:
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/research/warp/p
Zero Point Energy (ZPE), or vacuum fluctuation energy are terms used to describe the random electromagnetic oscillations that are left in a vacuum after all other energy has been removed. If you remove all the energy from a space, take out all the matter, all the heat, all the light... everything -- you will find that there is still some energy left. One way to explain this is from the uncertainty principle from quantum physics that implies that it is impossible to have an absolutely zero energy condition.
Add up the energy for all those different frequencies of light and the amount of energy in a given space is enormous, even mind boggling, ranging from 10^36 to 10^70 Joules/m3.
If you choose to call the research scientists at NASA quacks, that is your prerogative.
Zero Point energy absolutley sounds like fairy tale science, but every once in a blue moon
something comes along that truly stuns the world .
Like Warp Drive research being funded with this concept at the root of it .
http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=16902006
At times like this, Technology does approach being indistinguishable from what some call magic, hehe .
Ex-MislTech
Taking it a step further and get us out of the middle east, and any and all foreign nations .
The way to do it , is listed on my blog .
Here is my blog post on the Bio-diesel subject, and a source of water and food material to
power it to replace all fossil fuels in the US .
http://blog.myspace.com/ex_misltech
Let me know what ya think !
Ex-MislTech
Agreed,
Here is my blog post on the Bio-diesel subject, and a source of water and food material to
power it to replace all fossil fuels in the US .
http://blog.myspace.com/ex_misltech
Let me know what ya think !
Ex-MislTech
Maybe you could name it the USS Eldridge ...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experim
Ex-MislTech(US Navy)
I like what these guys have in mind better :
http://www.fuellessflight.com/
They are a bit further from a working proto-type though .
Ex-MislTech
That's no big deal, we had methane snow here in Chicago last month.
Reeeeeeeeaaaally ?????
Methane (CH4) 16.0426 g/mole Freezing point: -182.5 C