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Future Trends of Malware

An anonymous reader writes "What are the driving forces behind the rise of malware? Who's behind it, and what tactics do they use? How are vendors responding, and what should organizations, researchers, and end users keep in mind for the upcoming future? All these questions and more are answered in the well written (MHO) Future Trends of Malware"

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  1. What are the driving forces behind the rise of mal by spiny · · Score: 1, Insightful

    money.

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  2. 56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems like parents everywhere trust their AntiVirus to stop everything. When they get spyware, and you tell em you got to remove it, they'll retort,"Oh, just run Mcaffee". The funny part that we all know here is that there are too much malware out there for one Antivirus software to stop and they keep coming. To me, Antivirus software seems a lot like SnakeWater.

    1. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by Beatbyte · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If they run Mcaffee, they deserve it. ;)

      note: I can too make fun of all antivirus companies. I run debian.

    2. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by gowen · · Score: 1
      Antivirus software seems a lot like SnakeWater.
      SnakeWater? Is that a cross between Snake Oil (a quack remedy or panacea - OED) and Bong Water?
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    3. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bong Water? That's the name of the band?

    4. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by igb · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I'm not quite sure what `parents' has to do with it. A huge proportion of the population, with or without children, falls into one of three categories:
      • They don't know spyware or viruses from a hole in the ground, and they either re-install or buy a new computer every time their machine gets too slow
      • OR they believe their firewall and/or AV product is total protection, and they convince themselves that their machine isn't slow and isn't behaving badly, even when it it
      • OR they simply accept that computers are shit and tolerate it running badly.
      A certain sort of quasi-autistic geek then makes snotty comments and plays ``blame the victim'' by pointing out all the measures that the victim could have taken. The real solutions are:
      • For operating system vendors to sort out their problems. Oh, OK, for one particular OS vendor to sort out its problems.
      • For law enforcement to stop treating the perpetrators as cute kids, and actually do something serious about the issue.
      Blaming the victim just isn't on. `We' (ie people who provide computer and telecommunication services) sold them a machine. It's up to us to make sure it behaves reasonably. There's an ``Unsafe at Any Speed'' brewing, if but we could see it.

      ian

    5. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by dc29A · · Score: 3, Informative

      note: I can too make fun of all antivirus companies. I run debian.

      I haven't installed an anti-virus software on my home PC and laptop for over 3 years now (both running Windows). Never had any problems either. I just follow a few paranoid steps:
      - Firewall the machines router + laptop has software firewall.
      - Avoid IE like the plague.
      - Avoid Outlook Express like the plague.
      - Try as much as possible using a limited rights account instead of root. For some games and apps it doesn't work but for most mundane tasks like browsing, video, mp3 playback it works great.
      - VMware or VirtualPC is your friend if you want to run code from ugh *cough* warez sites *cough*, but as a general step, I refuse to open any email attachment that isn't an image, video or hyperlink from a trusted source (ie: someone emailing a funny image to group of friends). I treat every email attachement that I receive on my home PC as a virus. I then lower the severity of it based on file type.
      - Firefox + Adblock = golden.

      Is it perfect? Nope but paranoid surfing habits as in don't click on "OMG YOUR PC IS SLOW SPEED IT UP" flashing crap helps, or when you get to a pr0n site and it offers you a plugin.exe it might also be a bad idea to execute it.

    6. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by JoeBar · · Score: 1

      dc29A = Chuck Norris

    7. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by linkdead · · Score: 1

      True, but I wouldn't write off McAfee as snake water...given my opinion that it's far from the best tool for the job, and I feel there are free AVs that can do better...but at the least it offers some degree of protection.

      I think there needs to be better education of the masses in regards to viruses, spayware, and malware. Namely how various AVs and ware-removers are the computer equal to our medicine. By that I mean sometimes you need one program to cure one ailment, and a different one for another ailment.

      A person wouldn't use Antacid to treat a headache, or at least I hope so...So why trust just one program (cure) for every single virus/`ware issue?

    8. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by Gary+Destruction · · Score: 1

      Actually, I downloaded a suspicious attachment to see what it would do. I run as a non-privileged user. It couldn't write to the WINNT directory or the registry. But what was funny was that when executed, it said,"Cannot find vbrun64.dll".

    9. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by Cal+Paterson · · Score: 1

      With all that crap, isn't it time you thought about another operating system?

    10. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by Reziac · · Score: 1

      I've been saying (and doing) the same thing with my WinBoxen for nearly a decade, and have zero infections to show for it. A resident AV is necessary mainly for users who can't resist clicking that attachment, or who use IE/Outlook. If you use a firewall, Some Other Browser, and an email client that doesn't execute attachments no matter what the user clicks, 99% of such problems go away without the need of a resident AV.

      But DO remember to manually AV-scan anything you save to disk (from an attachment or a download) prior to execution/viewing. For the truly paranoid, rescan programs both after installation AND after first execution (in case something malicious is extracted or downloaded by an installation package).

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    11. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by JoeBar · · Score: 1

      But DO remember to manually AV-scan anything you save to disk (from an attachment or a download) prior to execution/viewing. For the truly paranoid, rescan programs both after installation AND after first execution (in case something malicious is extracted or downloaded by an installation package).


      Because that's so much more convenient than just running a resident AV.

    12. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by Reziac · · Score: 1

      But that's really what a resident AV is about -- the convenience factor, for people who don't habitually think about their system's security, or who habitually run unsafe apps. And there are ways to automate one-off scans of files saved to disk -- Getright can do so, and I'm sure other FTP apps can manage the same thing.

      Resident AV isn't necessarily a magic bullet, tho. Frex, twice I've seen McAfee (Corporate version no less) ALLOW the SubSeven trojan to install, THEN complain about it.

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    13. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by JoeBar · · Score: 1

      um I was being sarcastic.. Of course a resident AV is more convenient.

    14. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by Reziac · · Score: 1

      You forgot the sarcasm mark [g] Was a good point tho, regardless.

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    15. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by drsmithy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      With all that crap, isn't it time you thought about another operating system?

      Seems to me he's following the same procedures any sensible person would _regardless_ of the OS - run as a limited user, avoid buggy software and don't execute code from questionable sources.

    16. Re:56% increase in trust in AntiVirus by Cal+Paterson · · Score: 1

      Unixes don't have to worry about things like email attachments, because those aren't given executable status unless a user specifically gives it thosee rights.

      Alot of these methods are really standard practice on unixes; for many home installations, the only time you need to use rootspace is when you want to run wget&make/yum/apt-get/emerge. Generally, once daemons are setup, there is very little need to do anything special, security wise.

  3. The goggles do nothing. by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure it's a great paper. But when it's presented as black and sky blue text on a purple background, reading it is almost like having my eyes infected with malware.

    1. Re:The goggles do nothing. by wild_berry · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not a great paper. A great paper would have been written clearly (and not submitted by it's author: that's how I'm interpreting the Anon's "All these questions and more are answered in the well written (MHO) Future Trends of Malware").

    2. Re:The goggles do nothing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Written clearly? I could have at least made it through the article if it weren't for the 3rd-grade grammar infection.

    3. Re:The goggles do nothing. by kent_eh · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or you could disable the stylesheet (alt-V-Y-N) to read the liked page in glorious, high-contrast, whatever your defaults are.

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    4. Re:The goggles do nothing. by Ravenscall · · Score: 2, Funny

      It is well written if you are schizotypal.

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    5. Re:The goggles do nothing. by orthogonal · · Score: 1

      Jeeez, I've published Firefox extensions, and I never even knew about diabling styles via the view menu.

      Great tip, thanks!

    6. Re:The goggles do nothing. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

      The author, really, enjoys using the comma, in strange places. Personally I, find it very hard to, read.

      The background doesn't help much either. However some of the links were informative; I was unaware of the cell-phone worms (or is that a trojan?).

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    7. Re:The goggles do nothing. by Tacky+the+Penguin · · Score: 1

      If you honestly want to read it, just use the mouse to select the text.

    8. Re:The goggles do nothing. by AdamWeeden · · Score: 1

      The author, really, enjoys using the comma, in strange places. Personally I, find it very hard to, read.

      Did the inner voice in anyone else's head switch to Captain Kirk when they read that sentence?

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    9. Re:The goggles do nothing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are also assorted grammar problems, but the attractive lady at the top (who appears to be rolling her eyes as if to say, "Dad, that file 'Aunt Jim' sent to you /was/ malware,") is supposed to take your mind off things.

  4. Re:What are the driving forces behind the rise of by LordSkippy · · Score: 1

    We have a winner!

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  5. Key summary points and conclusion by millwall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Key summary points
    --------------
    Malware authors update their multi-vendor anti virus signatures faster than most end users and enterprises do altogether

    The high pressure put on malware authors by the experienced vendors is causing them to unite efforts and assets, and realize that it's hard to compete on their own. Yet this doesn't stop them from waging a war in between

    Intellectual property theft worms have to potential to dominate in today's knowledge-driven society acting as tools for espionage

    Don't matter what you always wanted to do to ecriminals, in case of a cryptoviral extortion, you'll be the one having to initiate the contact

    The growing Internet population, E-commerce flow, and the demand for illegal/unethical services, would fuel the development of an Ecosystem, for anything, but legal

    The "Web as a platform" is a powerful medium for malware attackers understanding the new Web

    The unprecedented growth of E-commerce would always remain the main incentive for illegal activities

    7.0 Conclusion
    --------------

    I hope that the points I have raised in this research, would prove valuable to both end users, businesses and anti-virus vendors. The Internet as a growing force shaping our ways of thinking and living is as useful, as easy to exploit as well. The clear growth in E-commerce, today's open-source nature of malware, the growing penetration of the Internet in respect to insecure connected PCs, are among the main driving factors of the scene. Do your homework and stay ahead of the threats, most of all, less branding when making security decisions, but high preferences! Please, feel free to direct your opinions, remarks, or any feedback to me, at dancho.danchev AT hush.com or at ddanchev.blogspot.com where you can directly comment on my publication. Nothing is impossible, the impossible just takes a little while!

    1. Re:Key summary points and conclusion by Ravenscall · · Score: 1

      So, basically, he is just telling us a bunch of stuff that we already know.

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  6. Daemon Tools by barik · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Greed. Free products like Daemon Tools, when the author suddenly decides that free doesn't pay the bills, and includes spyware. Daemon Tools is a great product, but I refuse to ever use it again. I don't care if the setup lets you uncheck the option to install the spyware; it shouldn't be there in the first place.

    1. Re:Daemon Tools by Matt2k · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Greed? You mean the selfless devotion of time to a project that no one will pay you for?

    2. Re:Daemon Tools by baadger · · Score: 1

      I don't care if the setup lets you uncheck the option to install the spyware; it shouldn't be there in the first place.

      Not that i'm defending the inclusion of (mal|spy|shit)ware with genuinely useful software (I also use a slightly out of date version of Daemon Tools) but you have absolutely no right to say what the author can and can't include in his software package.

      The fact that you can choose not to install the crud is a blessing (saves you ripping it out with Spybot afterward). Does an extra setup screen really piss you off that much? Why don't you e-mail the author and suggest he makes it shareware or payware, that'd be a lot better wouldn't it...

    3. Re:Daemon Tools by badfish99 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Absolutely no right?

      So (for example) did nobody have any right to say that Sony should not include a rootkit in the software on their CDs? Does nobody have the right to say that Microsoft Windows should be better quality? If some software destroyed your hard disk, would you just say "it's a blessing that I could have chosen not to install it"?

    4. Re:Daemon Tools by The+Ultimate+Fartkno · · Score: 2, Funny

      > when the author suddenly decides that free doesn't pay the bills

      I don't think he decided it as much as he *realised* it.

    5. Re:Daemon Tools by Brewskibrew · · Score: 1

      Gator used to be cool, until a) they incorporated a ton of spyware and b) browsers started remembering your passwords and other shizzle.

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    6. Re:Daemon Tools by HappyDrgn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "did nobody have any right to say that Sony should not include a rootkit in the software"

      You're comparing apples to oranges here. The difference with Daemon Tools is that it gives you an option to not install additional software and when you tell it no thanks that is the end of it. In the case of Sony's rootkit however there was no option to not install this extra software. The problem most people have with this is not that the software was there in the first place, but that the installer used vague wording to conceal what will actually be installed and if you told it not to install the software it did it anyway.

      "Does nobody have the right to say that Microsoft Windows should be better quality?"

      Yes. With your pocket book. You may be able to do the same with Daemon Tools. The author is obviously looking for some kind of compensation for untold hours of hard labor. Why not make a donation for the days, weeks, years of use you got out of it? Alternatively, as someone else suggested, why not ask the author to make a paid version instead of including extra software? Just because it's free does not make it afraid of money.

    7. Re:Daemon Tools by baadger · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Installing Daemon Tools and then being given the option to opt out of crapware is not the same as, nor does it even compare to:

      • Sony BMG's rootkit installing itself without user intervention
      • The software being of a poor quality. You're Windows analogy suggests essentially that Daemon Tools is now a totally useless or inferior, or somehow less valuable, product just because it is now bundled with some optional junkware. If the software was of a poor quality you wouldn't be installing it, crapware or not.
      • Something 'wrecking' my hard drive. Daemon Tools doesn't, and even if I installed it's crapware it still wouldn't.


      All the examples you give, and infact your entire reply, are about the right and individual has to bitch about something bad that has happened to them. And you can bitch if you're so inclined, I never said grandparent couldn't say it's a damn shame, and that he now has a different opinion of D-Tools or it's author. I was merely pointing out in my first post that Barik should be bloody grateful Daemon Tools is not as bad as any of the examples you give.

      On a tangent, your Windows/OS analogy could be better served by Linux. You pay for Windows one way or another, therefore you expect, have some kind of mediocre right to receive, or atleast can acceptably demand, a level of service, maintenance or warrenty with the product. The Linux kernel on the other hand, I believe, is explicitly distributed with "absolutely no warranty, whatsoever". The quality of the product, in reality, is irrelevent to your point.
    8. Re:Daemon Tools by barik · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, it does annoy me that much. If an author is willing to include spyware in the first place, what else are they willing to do with their software? When you download a piece of software, you expect that software, and not random bundles of non-related software.

      You are correct that I have no right to say what the author can and cannot do. I can simply choose not to use the software anymore, which I have done. And in this case, since it for corporate use, I can vote with my wallet as well.

    9. Re:Daemon Tools by why-is-it · · Score: 1
      The Linux kernel on the other hand, I believe, is explicitly distributed with "absolutely no warranty, whatsoever".

      I believe that the microsoft EULA essentially states the same thing:

      15. LIMITED WARRANTY FOR SOFTWARE ACQUIRED IN THE US AND CANADA. Microsoft warrants that the Software will perform substantially in accordance with the accompanying materials for a period of ninety (90) days from the date of receipt. If an implied warranty or condition is created by your state /jurisdiction and federal or state/provincial law prohibits disclaimer of it, you also have an implied warranty or condition, BUT ONLY AS TO DEFECTS DISCOVERED DURING THE PERIOD OF THIS LIMITED WARRANTY (NINETY DAYS). AS TO ANY DEFECTS DISCOVERED AFTER THE NINETY-DAY PERIOD, THERE IS NO WARRANTY OR CONDITION OF ANY KIND. Some states/jurisdictions do not allow limitations on how long an implied warranty or condition lasts, so the above limitation may not apply to you. Any supplements or updates to the Software, including without limitation, any (if any) service packs or hot fixes provided to you after the expiration of the ninety day Limited Warranty period are not covered by any warranty or condition, express, implied or statutory.

      and

      LIMITATION ON REMEDIES; NO CONSEQUENTIAL OR OTHER DAMAGES. Your exclusive remedy for any breach of this Limited Warranty is as set forth below. Except for any refund elected by Microsoft, YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, if the Software does not meet Microsoft's Limited Warranty, and, to the maximum extent allowed by applicable law, even if any remedy fails of its essential purpose.

      Commercial software provides no advantage in that regard...

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    10. Re:Daemon Tools by Cal+Paterson · · Score: 1

      Greed? You mean programs that break peoples computers for profit?

    11. Re:Daemon Tools by Cal+Paterson · · Score: 1

      "you have absolutely no right to say what the author can and can't include in his software package."

      I have every right to say that the author is an amoral jackass who is ruining the computers of people who are knowledgable enough about computers to discern software packages. I have every right to say the daemon-tools is a poor piece of software because of it.

      I cannot force the author to change his software-and I wouldn't even if i could. But I will implore him to.

    12. Re:Daemon Tools by barik · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? Daemon Tools is only free for personal use. It's not like they don't make money on it.

  7. Botnets and Zombie hosts by IAAP · · Score: 2, Insightful
    FTFA: Hundreds of thousands of fully controlled Internet connected hosts, with amazing bandwidth, storage and sensitive information stored within could be easily utilized to perform the majority of security attacks we are witnessing these days.

    Would it be possible, if for instance, an ISP sees a shit load of traffic from a customer's address directed at another address to start blocking that traffic? Or at the very least notifying the customer that there may something wrong. I bet just about everyone whose computer has these bots are comletely unaware. They might even bitch about how slow their connection is.

    I'm already thinking of the ethical and privacy issues involved with doing that, but it would stop some of the DOS extortion.

    1. Re:Botnets and Zombie hosts by TheDoctorWho · · Score: 0

      Sure. But when you play internet games a lot of traffic is moving. You can't simply cut of the connection, you will lose business that way.

      Then of coure P2P, of which there are a lot of legla and legit uses for. My Bit Torrent Program runs 24.7 sharing files and sending the data, causing constant traffic. So that's just not a good way to fix this, as it limits your Internet experience.

    2. Re:Botnets and Zombie hosts by daringone · · Score: 3, Informative

      Funny you mention that, because once they're infected, the spam barrage usually comes next. At our company, (an ISP) it takes less than a day to see the complaints from these people. They're then notified that *something* is wrong, and they need to look at it. If it isn't fixed, we usually call them then. If they continue to ignore the problem, they're disconnected until we can look at the computer. At that point, it's a willful TOS violation for spamming, even if they aren't the real spammer since the messages are coming from their machine.

    3. Re:Botnets and Zombie hosts by J.+T.+MacLeod · · Score: 2, Interesting

      At my company, when we see virus/spyware activity, we call the customer and give them instructions on how to fix it. If it recurs or doesn't get fixed--or if we can't get in touch with them and it's particularly nasty--we'll shut off service and require that we verify the computer is clean before turning their service back on.

      Which sounds pretty strict, except that we'll clean their computers for free.

    4. Re:Botnets and Zombie hosts by kent_eh · · Score: 1
      But when you play internet games a lot of traffic is moving.

      Yeah, a lot of traffic, but it's not ICMP or SMTP, which are easy to tell from "more normal" traffic.
      It has been suggested here before; why don't consumer packages from ISPs come with port 25 (and/or other "well known" server ports) blocked by default, and an easy way (one phone call, or a secure self-serv web interface) for someone who knows they want the port enabled to make it so?

      Most consumer packages don't allow servers, anyway, and state that in the TOS. Usually they have a power user or small business pacage for not too much more $$ that allows serving (and provides more bandwidth)

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    5. Re:Botnets and Zombie hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the botnet is large enough, then the individual zombies wouldn't have to generate exceptional amounts of traffic to bring the target down.
      So this would only help against spam-bots and not DDOS extortion schemes.

    6. Re:Botnets and Zombie hosts by burnin1965 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      " if for instance, an ISP sees a shit load of traffic from a customer's address directed at another address to start blocking that traffic? Or at the very least notifying the customer "

      Notification is fine, but I would be very pissed if my ISP decided on their own to block traffic from my address based on an incorrect assumption that the traffic from my address was from an exploited host. My ISP actually did notify me once about their concern for traffic volume from my address and after I explained the situation to them I've never received another notification.

      I have some sympothy for the vast majority of the internet population who lack the knowledge or skill to lock down the crap shoot of an OS most of them run, but there are better solutions that will not impact those of us who utilize large amounts of bandwidth and are not host to malware.

      1) If you can't lock down your Windows box yourself or install and use linux, buy a Mac.

      2) If an ISP wants to help their customers with malware issues by blocking traffic, create an opt in program rather than assume all customers are clueless.

      Leave my net alone,
      burnin

    7. Re:Botnets and Zombie hosts by Reziac · · Score: 1

      It seems to me that ISPs are missing a revenue stream -- a geek on call who visits infected customers and cleans up their systems -- for a suitable fee, of course. The going rate seems to be around $100/hr for such work. Could be a nice partnership for an ISP and local clone shops.

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    8. Re:Botnets and Zombie hosts by daringone · · Score: 1

      Actually, we *DO* do that :) Except we're pretty reasonable about the fee. We're half the price of Geek Squad.

    9. Re:Botnets and Zombie hosts by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Nifty. Bonus points for you guys for customer service!

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  8. Benefits of malware... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    From TFA, re: effects of Sasser worm... "British Airways, 20 flights delayed by 10 minutes".

    In the UK, flights being delayed by only 10 minutes is a cause for celebration. By this metric, French Air Traffic Control on a public-holiday-strike is more damaging to world commerce than a piddly little computer worm!

    1. Re:Benefits of malware... by millwall · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I think the british have surpassed the french in strike for holiday actions.

      Wasn't it just the other day that the tube union went on strike yet again because their working day of 35 hour was too long.

    2. Re:Benefits of malware... by lanswitch · · Score: 1

      working day of 35 hour
       
      Pussies! Working more that 24 hours a day hasn't killed anyone!

    3. Re:Benefits of malware... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wasn't it just the other day that the tube union went on strike yet again because their working day of 35 hour was too long.

      i) Yes, New Year's Eve. I don't recall it delaying any BA flights though, and

      ii) I'd be out on strike if my working day was 35 hours.

    4. Re:Benefits of malware... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Surpassed us ? I don't think so...
      We had a strike in 2 of Paris subway lines too in December. The drivers were unhappy with the new winter schedule (more trains to accomodate more passengers). They protested that their work conditions were degrading to an unacceptable level.
      They were squashed after it became apparent they are working an average of 6 hours a day and 182 days a year ( see this article in French )
      OK they work during week-ends and with shitty schedule like beginning at 4 a.m., but in the private sector the norm is 7 hours a day, 220 days a year and shitty schedules are mostly uncompensated.
      The suckers being unhappy with their 1/3 shorter work time, good pay and protection from layoffs, a public outcry ensued so they had to shut their mouth and get back to work.

    5. Re:Benefits of malware... by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      Well 35 hours a day is a bit long, don't you think?

      Jaysyn

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    6. Re:Benefits of malware... by spot35 · · Score: 1

      Off topic but... The tube strike over the new year was to get a 35 hour week and 52 (yes, 52!!) days holiday a year. The tube union is rapidly running out of sympathy from the general public.

      They also went on strike this Monday just gone because the tube managers decided to try to keep some staions open and the union decided that this was against health and safety. More disruption and they've just upped their ticket prices and abolished a zone 1 travelcard. The tube union is scum.

    7. Re:Benefits of malware... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

      in the private sector the norm is 7 hours a day, 220 days a year

      Wow. In the U.S. we have a term for this, we call it a "part-time job."

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  9. How do we stop it? by Reverend+Darkness · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... you know, my Uncle Jim used to say that a lot of problems in the world could be solved with a .22 to the back of the head...

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    1. Re:How do we stop it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      ... you know, my Uncle Jim used to say that a lot of problems in the world could be solved with a .22 to the back of the head...

      His head, or someone else's?

    2. Re:How do we stop it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem, as always, is to find the proper head to put the bullet into.

    3. Re:How do we stop it? by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      Hmm, see Duke Nukem for better solutions.

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  10. Exclamation Replication! by digitaldc · · Score: 5, Funny

    I counted 45! exclamation points in that article!

    Now after reading it, I have become so depressed that I have decided not to connect my computer to the internet ever again!!!

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    1. Re:Exclamation Replication! by BushCheney08 · · Score: 1

      !!!

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    2. Re: Exclamation Replication! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      > I counted 45! exclamation points in that article!

      It's probably malware for your web browser, encoded in base 1.

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    3. Re:Exclamation Replication! by J-Doggqx · · Score: 1

      Then you would probably like the code posted on thedailywtf.com. The original author apparently thought exclamation points were used too often today, even in code.

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    4. Re:Exclamation Replication! by geobeck · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Multiple exclamation marks are the sign of a diseased mind."
      --Terry Prattchett

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    5. Re: Exclamation Replication! by uniqueCondition · · Score: 1

      maybe! he! use! to! work! at! Yahoo!

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  11. Extremely thorough, except... by Billosaur · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...they forgot VoIP. Amazing oversight really. How long before someone hacks Skype and manages to insert malware code into the VoIP data stream? You place a call to someone and somewhere along the way extra data is inserted and finds its way onto your machine. I'm not that knowledgeable about VoIP's inner workings, but it seems to me that anything that allows data to be moved back and forth from your computer unfettered is a doorway for malware to be lodged on your machine.

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    1. Re:Extremely thorough, except... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "I'm not that knowledgeable ... , but "

      This is like the primordial /. post, isn't it?

    2. Re:Extremely thorough, except... by m50d · · Score: 1
      I'm not that knowledgeable about VoIP's inner workings, but it seems to me that anything that allows data to be moved back and forth from your computer unfettered is a doorway for malware to be lodged on your machine.

      On the whole, no. If you have a buffer overflow or something then yes, you will get malware coming in. But most problems are caused by computers stupidly executing data they get, due to stupid design, the most common form of which is deciding to allow remote plugins (activex, I'm looking at you, but the mozilla XUL stuff is just as boneheaded). This is especially common in web browsers, and anything that uses MS's HTML rendering, but skype doesn't look like it will go down that road.

      If it's doesn't do that, it's unlikely to be exploited. How many times do you hear about a streaming media exploit? There were buffer overflows found in xine and mplayer a year or so ago, but they were fixed before any exploit was known. The only ItW attack I know of using a media player was against windows media, using the ASX metadata to get it to - guess what? - run an activex control.

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  12. Future trends of software dictate it by baadger · · Score: 1

    In my opinion, and the article concludes with almost the same point, the 'future trends of malware' will be determined in response to the future trends in software, such as the focus on cracking down on browser phishing, the rise in popularity of open source and the totally net integrated space age home the world has always been promised, but just hasnt happened yet.

    Conclusion: more of the same but general software reacts to malware much more slowly than the counter reaction.

  13. Is this a college paper? by kook44 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Horribly written, lots of (mostly) un-referenced statistics without any analysis. Rambles on without any real point. Anything groundbreaking here?

    1. Re:Is this a college paper? by teklob · · Score: 1

      I stopped reading about half way through. The bulleted lists are added more for visual appeal than any real organization, and the grammatical errors were overwhelming whatever point the author was trying to make. Definately some good info there, but IMHO needs a complete rewrite. This is more of a draft.

    2. Re:Is this a college paper? by JazzHarper · · Score: 1

      I found it quite interesting, even though the author doesn't seem to know what an adverb is.

  14. Re:DON'T CLICK !! by IAAP · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Does your Mommy and Daddy know that you're Trolling /.?

    If they find out, they'll send you to bed with no supper or TV. They'll take away your iPod, Gameboy, XBox, and all of your toys until you start being good!

    Now, go away or I'm telling your Mom!

  15. One word: Legitimization. by Caspian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Malware meets so many of the deep desires of the marketing world (and the corporate world in general). It can provides market data in bulk, practically "for free" (from the company's perspective). It can provide a further degree of control over a user's computer. It can enforce DRM. It can force ads on people.

    Thus, I can only conclude that the future of malware is for it to go from something created by shady companies like Gator (a.k.a. "Claria") and 419WebSolutions (or whatever) to something created (or at least branded) by "household name" companies like HP, Dell, etc. A first step towards a future in which major corporations embrace malware has already occurred; just look at all the crap Dell shovels onto their much-maligned default software installations.

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    1. Re:One word: Legitimization. by bhima · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Over the course of the past 2 years my entire extended family has switched to Apple products. I find it interesting that well over half of them have not installed a single package beyond what is on them to begin with. And *ALL* of them objected to the useless and annoying crap on their previous big name WinTel boxes.

      Why is it that Apple can figure out what regular people want and HP & Packard Bell saddle people with crap?

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    2. Re:One word: Legitimization. by Caspian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh yes, I almost forgot! Another word: "Sony". Their rootkit is the future. Sure, people bitch now, but in time, the companies will either find a "compromise" solution that infuriates people less (for instance, a rootkit without horrific security flaws), or simply establish rootkits and other malware as the "industry standard", critics (read: angry geeks) be damned.

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    3. Re:One word: Legitimization. by BushCheney08 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why is it that Apple can figure out what regular people want and HP & Packard Bell saddle people with crap?

      And this is one of the big reasons why Apple machines tend to cost a bit more. Bear in mind that HP and Dell and whoever else get paid to include the trialware and crippled versions of apps on their machines. They then turn around and pass the savings on to you, the consumer! They call it "adding value" to the machine. I call it loading it up with useless crap.

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    4. Re:One word: Legitimization. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If Apple had 95% of the market, as Microsoft does, then they would be having the same exact problems.

      People who write this BS software try to effect the maximum number of users they can effect, meaning, they try to effect Windows users. Apple is not the answer, unless you like paying 2x as much for a computer thats 1/2 as fast as a PC.

    5. Re:One word: Legitimization. by badfish99 · · Score: 1

      Apple are charging enough for their product that they don't need to do deals on the side with crapware manufacturers who want their stuff included on their machines. And Apple's product is of sufficient quality that they don't have to pad it out with "1000 dollars worth of software free" in order to make it look attractive in the adverts.

    6. Re:One word: Legitimization. by Generic+Guy · · Score: 1
      Apple is not the answer, unless you like paying 2x as much for a computer thats 1/2 as fast as a PC.

      Did you miss the big announcements, yesterday? Apple has already released the first Intel iMacs and laptops. So you can now pay 2x as much for a computer the same speed as a PC.

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    7. Re:One word: Legitimization. by IngramJames · · Score: 1

      the companies will either find a "compromise" solution that infuriates people less (for instance, a rootkit without horrific security flaws), or simply establish rootkits and other malware as the "industry standard", critics (read: angry geeks) be damned.

      As long as there are geeks, and they get angry, there will be free software and operating systems, which you can't inject copy spy^H^H^Hprotection onto, but can use to play music. Geeks may not buy the CDs if they require said software to play. But they sure as heck better play in a CD player; and if you can play a sound down a wire to a speaker, you can rip it onto a computer. The Geeks will stay safe, if annoyed and going round the houses to listen to some music.

      It is The Great Unwashed who are actually in danger here.. they will probably just accept it until there's a huge security scandal somewhere..

      But I think you are right.. it will happen.

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    8. Re:One word: Legitimization. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

      I think the real answer to this is because Apple is both a hardware and software company, while HP and Dell (with some minor exceptions) are basically hardware-only outfits. That is, they need to go out and find software to include on their machines. This makes them much more receptive to an outside company's offer to give them a few hundred grand if they include a trial offer of their software. Apple, with minor exceptions, loads computers up with their own software, and thus there isn't the 'foot in the door' that a crapware vendor has with HP or Dell.

      Plus, and I will admit this is controversial, I think there is a higher percentage of crapware and crippware for the PC than there is for the Mac. If you were looking to make a quick buck in software, you wouldn't write for the Mac, you'd go for the PC. That's why there isn't nearly the shareware market on the Mac that there is for Windows (not that all Win shareware is crappy, but quite a bit of it is, or is stuff that you can get for other platforms for free).

      The Macintosh platform is basically a vertical monopoly controlled by Apple -- it's a one-stop shop, a "solution" if you will. You buy it, and it comes with primarily Apple-branded software: Apple's DVD Player, Apple iTunes, Apple iMovie, Apple iWork, etc. And obviously Apple's OS. With HP or Dell you'd be getting a computer with a Windows OS and somebody else's MP3 player, DVD Player (although I guess that's been pretty much taken over by WMP now), antivirus, digital photo viewer, etc. By developing all the software themselves, Apple regulates the quality. And by subsidizing the development costs of their software with hardware dollars, they can include full versions on new computers without resorting to demos.

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    9. Re:One word: Legitimization. by WhiteWolf666 · · Score: 1

      That's why there isn't nearly the shareware market on the Mac that there is for Windows (not that all Win shareware is crappy, but quite a bit of it is, or is stuff that you can get for other platforms for free).

      I do not find this to be the case.

      There's a huge warez market for PCs. There's not much of a warez market for Macs.

      OS X shareware is widespread; there's a huge amount of it out there.

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    10. Re:One word: Legitimization. by Reziac · · Score: 1

      [laughing] That's the new math. The old math goes like this: In the back room I've got a G4 500MHz that followed me home... most of its innards are standard PC-interchangeable parts (only the mobo and CPU are Apple-unique). I found the original invoice on the HD: $4000.

      Now, over yonder I've got an equivalent PC (P3-500 -- it has more Toys, but their performance is almost identical) that's about a year older... and it cost me around $500.

      And over on the workbench I've got a Compaq dual Xeon 750 of similar vintage... originally priced at $3000. We'll take off a grand for the Compaq brand name and see how it compares then. [g]

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  16. P2P worms? by sczimme · · Score: 4, Insightful


    From the article:

    modular - new features are easily added to further improve its impact, want it to have P2P propagation capability, add it, want it to disseminate over IM, done.

    Okay, malware can be modular - makes sense.

    The lack of P2P worms is, I think, a logical consequence of the RIAA's busts around the U.S, and the global response towards P2P networks copyright infringement.

    How did the author manage to come to that "logical" conclusion? How is the presence (or !presence) of malware related to the "global response... copyright infringement"?

    Given today's P2P concepts, and the disruptive BitTorrent technology, it is not longer required to on purposely slow down transfers to hide the activity on a user's host.

    And where the heck is he going with this??

    Submitter, if this is your idea of "well written", I respectfully suggest you broaden your literary scope.

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  17. What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 4, Insightful
    We already put servers in their own groups (e.g. an httpd running as "www-data" or something). What if we made similar limitations for user-level apps. Something like this.

    user1 is member of group "users" and "user1group", "user1Firefoxgroup", etc.

    Firefox is user "user1Firefox" and a member of "user1group" and "user1Firefoxgroup".

    Thunderbird is user "user1Thunderbird" and a member of "user1group" and "user1Thunderbirdgroup".

    In /home/user1 is a directory called "protected_applications" owned by user1:user1group with "rwxr-x---" permission. General config information common to all apps goes in here, probably only readable, not writable, by "user1group". Below it are subdirectories like "Firefox" (owned by "user1Firefox:user1Firefoxgroup" with permissions "rwxrwx---". Maybe some sticky bits set.

    This way the apps can only write to and read from their own little subdirectory tree, and not any of the others, but the main user can read and write to any of the subdirectories.

    It wouldn't solve everything, but it would help limit further the damage malware could do. It could access (and corrupt) the data for the particular application it suborned, but without exploiting secondary holes it couldn't do more. This would prevent, say, a hole in Firefox from allowing malware to get at your Gnucash data. It also doesn't require much any new permission-checking code, the kernel already does file-access checks anyway.

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    1. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by ilikejam · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a job for SELinux.

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    2. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by stevied · · Score: 1

      Years ago (5?) I attended a Linux conference in London, and met a lady from SGI (I think) who was talking about adding in this capability. As well as just granting applications the minimum level of "permissions" required to accomplish a task, there was also a complementary concept of "trust", based on the sources of data an application accessed. The idea being that something like Firefox which pulls in a lot of potentially unreliable from all over the internet would in turn not be trusted by other more vulnerable parts of the system, right down to the files it created, etc., etc. I don't know whether anything like this ever made it into the kernel, or any set of add ons; I'd be curious to know ...

    3. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by hey · · Score: 1

      So you'd have a firefox account for each human user! In other words you want:
      number_of_users * number_of_apps accounts. Doesn't seem like a nice, simple, elegant solution. Perhaps we need something like subusers - which would be a user within a user.

    4. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by Jasin+Natael · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah. One flaw: You're assuming that the host operating system has support for UNIX-style user account restrictions. Windows could do something similar if they were to add an "Always Run As..." option, and users were smart enough to set it up, but it would be a hack at best. My guess is that as soon as support for this approach is implemented, even if the security part itself were *bug-free*, it would be a week at most before someone found an exploit to allow them to march out of the sandbox and into the system account.

      Running even the best-designed software on top of Windows is like building a nice house on a plot of land that is prone to develop sinkholes. You can keep filling in the holes, and you can keep patching up the house, but eventually the whole thing is going to cave in, or break the bank. And it won't be very comfortable to live in.

      With the above analogy, the current state of Windows is that things have gotten so bad, you're paying the crew foreman to live in your guest bedroom full-time. He (and his boss) keep telling you, "You should have used better plaster so it wouldn't crack", "You should have used steel beams in the floor slab", "You really needed stronger mortar to hold those bricks together". But what you really should have done, is put your house on a f***ing solid piece of land. It defeats the point of having an operating system when you can't depend on any of its facilities.

      Jasin Natael
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    5. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by IntlHarvester · · Score: 2, Insightful

      (A) You are trying to kludge Unix Permissions onto a siutation where a new model is required. Unix Groups are already a nightmare and this sort of thing would just makes it worse. How would you save a file from your web browser without a nightmare of permission settings?

      Furthermore it doesn't do what you want: Exploiting "user1Firefox:user1Firefoxgroup" is good enough to send spam and DoS attacks.

      Check "Capabilities"-based systems that do what you really want. They've been around for a while.

      (B) Users want Data Exchange between applications. Firefox need to talk to plugins like Java and RealPlayer. People want to embed spreadsheets into word processor documents. You need rich-copy-paste. You need to be able to script apps and pipe output. All of these Data Exchange vectors would undermine your permission system.

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    6. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read your pages about Ostiary. I don't see why its better than ssh. Maybe you could add that info to the FAQ.

    7. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 1
      So you'd have a firefox account for each human user! In other words you want: number_of_users * number_of_apps accounts. Doesn't seem like a nice, simple, elegant solution.

      But it could be managed behind the scene, by scripts and such. The real human users wouldn't need to see the 'virtual' users. And it requires zero changes to the existing Unix security model. Admittedly, at large installations with a lot of users, you might get close to the limits of a 16-bit uid_t, but even if you had, say, 2,000 users that'd leave at least 16 (actually 32, I think) 'virtual' UIDs available per user.

      And I'm certainly not proposing doing this with all applications. Just ones that could really benefit from it, that accept potentially untrustworthy data from elsewhere. We already do that with servers, for that very reason.

      Perhaps we need something like subusers - which would be a user within a user.

      That requires a different security model. There are efforts to do that (ACLs, capabilities) and good for them, but they haven't really caught on yet.

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    8. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      Good idea, but if you make the root and drunk sub-users mutally exclusive, I'd get nothing done!

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    9. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by accessdeniednsp · · Score: 1

      Asmodean? Is that you? I thought you were dead?

    10. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 1
      How would you save a file from your web browser without a nightmare of permission settings?

      To a "downloads" directory like "/home//Firefox/Downloads". The user can retrieve the file from there easily; as noted, they have the permission to do so.

      Furthermore it doesn't do what you want: Exploiting "user1Firefox:user1Firefoxgroup" is good enough to send spam and DoS attacks.

      I never said it did - in fact I said the opposite, "It wouldn't solve everything". Linux separates normal user activity from administration, and that's good, but a virus that deletes all your financial data (or just emails it elsewhere) can be just as destructive as hosing the operating system.

      Putting an httpd as an untrusted user doesn't prevent a suborned server from, say, serving up fake data, but does help prevent it from corrupting (or even accessing) data it's not supposed to. This extends the concept to the user level. The truly paranoid could run a browser under VMWare or UML if they really wanted, but this scheme would have a lot less overhead.

      Check "Capabilities"-based systems that do what you really want. They've been around for a while.

      And they haven't really caught on. I'm with you, really, I hope they do catch on eventuall, but I was trying to come up with something that would work with what we have now, warts and all.

      Users want Data Exchange between applications. Firefox need to talk to plugins like Java and RealPlayer.

      Nothing stops them from doing so with this scheme, it just limits what kind of data they can access.

      People want to embed spreadsheets into word processor documents.

      I wasn't proposing doing this for all applications, though I can see I wasn't entirely clear about that. I'm proposing something like this for apps that regularly work with potentially untrusted data like web browsers and email clients.

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    11. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 1
      I read your pages about Ostiary. I don't see why its better than ssh. Maybe you could add that info to the FAQ.

      It's not "better than" SSH. For certain uses it offers better security; for other uses Ostiary is totally inadequate and SSH is a better choice. See this and the first paragraph of the Introduction.

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    12. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well put -- I like the analogy.

      Actually I think what people are doing today, is practically building another guest house out back for the foreman and the rest of his work crew to live in while they're patching up your house. Remember the discussion a few months ago here on Slashdot about why the average joe needed a dual-core or multiprocessor Windows box? It was so one processor could run his actual application, and the other one could run all the anti-virus/spyware/adware/intrusion programs.

      The situation has really become ridiculous, but because it's happened so slowly and because so many people are highly invested in it, nobody with any authority wants to take a step back and call it for what it is.

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    13. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by accessdeniednsp · · Score: 1

      Asmodean? Is that you? I thought Graendal whacked you. You look good, apart from the balefire scar. That looks like it hurts. Might could use a band-aid.

    14. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by paving-slab · · Score: 1
      I already do something similar.

      I have a user created solely to run web browsers, p2p stuff etc. All these programs are run as this user via sudo, so provided an exploit can't get root everything in my home directory is safe. The worst that can happen is I will lose any downloads I haven't moved yet.

    15. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by Alioth · · Score: 1

      Instead of inventing something new, why not just use an SElinux policy? Pretty much every distro has SElinux now (it's a standard part of the kernel), and RedHattish-type distros already come with SElinux policies and SElinux turned on by default.

    16. Re: What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by jimfulton · · Score: 1

      In fact, isolating browsers (and other Internet entry-point applications such as Email, IM, etc.) within virtualized environments is already happening. There are a growing number of products and freeware under Windows, including: GreenBorder, VMware's Browser Appliance, Sandboxie, among others.

      The trick is to find the right balance of security and usability to meet your needs. The biggest complexity is often in the latter rather than the former. Making the isolation solid while still allowing useful content to run safely requires interesting amounts of virtualization as well as integration into the desktop to make it easy to use. Particularly when you add things like:

      • saving downloaded files that automatically launch within the isolated environment,
      • switching between content that should be isolated and that which should run normally outside the isolated environment, and
      • prevention of access to files or networks that Internet content shouldn't ever be allowed to touch.

      Visiting any unknown page on the Internet or opening any unknown attachment in email without some form of isolation is just begging for people to slap you.

      Disclaimer: I work for GreenBorder.

    17. Re:What if we sandbox major apps like browsers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This has got to be the geekyist place on earth, I love it.

  18. The driving force? by thaerin · · Score: 1

    I'm sure there's several forces at work driving malware. First is money. Unfortunately security is a joke to Microsoft and a large portion of the folks who use their products. As such these companies are constantly finding new methods and ways to infect your system with their crap. There has to be a decent amount of idiots buying their products for them to be continually pumping out new malware. A second force is likely just ego. There's likely a bit of upmanship between peers constantly trying to outdo the other by finding new backdoors.

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  19. Seems kind of pointless... by Nephroth · · Score: 4, Insightful
    They put an an awful lot of effort into saying something that could be summed up in just a few words:

    Malicious software can make money now, that which makes money attracts sellers.

    It's that simple, whereas in the past malware was mostly out of a quest for fame or percieved revenge, the malware of today is business malware, the nasty programs of old all dressed up in suit and tie and making someone filthy rich.

    This problem is exacerbated by the fact that nearly everyone runs Windows XP these days and Microsoft wasn't very attentive to security when they designed it. The sheer number of critical vulnerabilities that the operating system has is mind boggling. Recently, it was stated by some firm or another that Linux had released more patches than any other OS this year. Now, aside from the obvious problem with that statement (the patches weren't patches for Linux itself but for software in common Linux distributions, which is vastly greater in number than that of a Windows installation) if you look at the things patched, they aren't terribly dangerous. They are things like "potentially vulnerable to DNS attack" or "Local user can gain partial root privileges" and such, they are not like "Someone on the other side of a planet can send you a magic packet that makes your computer their bitch permanently," which is what the vast majority of Windows vulnerabilities allow.

    In short, malware has grown because malware is like any pathogen, it lies in wait until conditions are optimal for its growth and when they are it takes over quite rapidly. Remove one of its primary growth factors, and you'll slow it down. Remove more, and you'll potentially kill it.

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  20. support Open source av, antispyware by Wikipedia · · Score: 0, Informative

    support Open source:

    Winpooch Watchdog
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/winpooch/

    ClamAV port to windows (scanner only, no heuristics)
    http://www.clamwin.com

    OpenAntivirus :
    http://openantivirus.sourceforge.net/projects.php

    security projects:
    http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php? form_cat=43

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  21. Well written? by Caspian · · Score: 3, Funny

    My God, the grammatical errors in that paper are painful. Is a paper displaying such an appalling lack of quality really worthy of the attention of hundreds of thousands of SlashDot geeks?

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    1. Re:Well written? by Redwin · · Score: 1

      /. readers actually reading the article? You must be new here..

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  22. simple solution by g-to-the-o-to-the-g · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Its really easy to fix: don't use winders

    1. Re:simple solution by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 1

      That works for a while. Once any alternative becomes popular, unless it was designed specifically to resist malicious software (and no shipping desktop ready OS today is) then it'll just have the same problems. Malware authors these days react *very* fast. So I don't think this is a solution I'd push strongly.

  23. Malware is becoming dangerous by Mr.Fork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From my point of view, a security specialist, is that only 20-30% of the attacks on businesses and corporations are done electronicly from the outside, the rest (70-80%) are inside, mostly disgrunted employees. With the current trend of money/public focused companies treating employees like crap, all it would take is a vicious malware application to take them down.

    Malware is also becoming intelligently designed, no longer the 'see-this-famous-tennis-star-naked so-I-can-use-built-in-vbs-code to-email-everyone-in-your-addressbook' stupid-is-as-stupid-does tricks. They're pointed, direct, and very very scary.

    Here's to paying and treating your geek employee well!

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    1. Re:Malware is becoming dangerous by WhiteWolf666 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Malware is also becoming intelligently designed

      Are you sure its not evolving?

      Ba-duh-chick!

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    2. Re:Malware is becoming dangerous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The moment that major software is seriously said to be evolving is the moment when I know that intelligent design has fulfilled its purpose.

  24. WTF does this mean? by gkuz · · Score: 3, Insightful
    FTFA: "Do your homework and stay ahead of the threats, most of all, less branding when making security decisions, but high preferences!"

    Could the person who called this article "well-written" be so kind as to tell me what this means? The article is filled with crap like this; I'd give it a C-, at best, as a freshman paper.

  25. Tosh! With Bonus Exclamation Points! by wild_berry · · Score: 1

    I found the article hard to follow because of its unclear English and unhelpful lack of punctuation. Perhaps it is a transcribed presentation. I'm not convinced that the person writing it is a helpful security consultant, because, in the article, he fails to point out that something encrypted by a private key (and we're to assume the author means public/private key paired encryption) is easily recovered with the private key:

    A cryptoviral attack basically takes data as a hostage, encrypted with the author's public key, naturally wiping out the unencrypted data, and demanding a ransom for it.

    Aside: I now have a great excuse for being pulled in by intelligence agencies: a virus encrypted my files and I haven't yet restored them (because I can do this sort of unencryption painlessly later).

    1. Re:Tosh! With Bonus Exclamation Points! by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

      I agree completely with your point about the unclear punctuation and grammar. While one would think I'd be used to that from reading Slashdot by now, the overuse of commas was especially distracting.

      I'm not sure what's wrong with his statement about the public key, though. If the malware encrypts your data using the malware-author's public key, it can only be decrypted using the author's private key, which -- one assumes -- he keeps private until you've coughed up the dough. If it was encrypted using his private key, then of course anyone would be able to decrypt it using his public key.

      There are a lot of issues with TFA, but that didn't strike me as one of them. Maybe I'm missing something?

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    2. Re:Tosh! With Bonus Exclamation Points! by wild_berry · · Score: 1

      Oh! I've misunderstood his "cryptoviral attack ... takes data as a hostage, encrypted [sic.] with the author's public key" as refering to the public key of the data's author, not the malware's author. Thanks.

  26. Categories by goal by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Malware can be categorized by the goal of the creator. This can include:
    1. Marketing: Redirecting browser windows or overlaying pop-ups to promote a product or service
    2. Phishing: attacking an individual to extract passwords that let a criminal access the victim's accounts or identity
    3. Vandalism: Wanton destruction of a PC or network
    4. Spam Broadcasting: creating and controlling a botnet for spamming
    5. Extortion: Forcing a company to pay a ransom to avoid a DDoS or the triggering of an embedded bit of malware.
    6. Vilgilantism: Attacking P2P, spamming, or phishing networks to forestall perceived illegal activity
    7. Espionage: Illegally accessing company or country's secrets
    8. Military: Damaging an opponent country's IT infrastructure

    Note that some of these goals target individuals and their PCs whereas other target larger organizations. One key commonality of nearly all of the goals is that they target large numbers of PCs or require large numbers of infected machines to achieve the goal. Thus immunological approaches that look for the spread of unusual code or data packet patterns can help address this problem. On the other hand, immunological approaches won't work if the malware attack targets a single individual or company -- e.g. implanting a unique virus in one computer in a company for purposes of espionage or extortion.

    Note that half of the goals are very different from the stereotypical destructive virus or worm of yesteryear. With the exception of vandalism, extortion, vigilantism, and military, the other goals are essentially non-destructive. The malware creator's goals are not achieved if the malware crashes the target machine.
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  27. Biometrics & RFID by TFGeditor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think the ultimate future of malware will encompass biometric and RFID. Rather than key loggers, we will see biometric image capture (e.g. a scan/image capture of the user's thumbprint). Or capturing RFID patterns.

    I still say purveyors and criminal users of malware should be subject to life prison sentences if not death.

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    1. Re:Biometrics & RFID by bfischer · · Score: 1

      I still say purveyors and criminal users of malware should be subject to life prison sentences if not death.

      Sure thing, it's not like we don't already have enough people in prison already (that we have to pay for with our tax dollars). The only hope for an effective deterrent for this is going to be financial.

  28. Wrong approach altogether by h_benderson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anti Virus companies will always be slower than malware writers. The whole signature-based antivirus approach is fundamentally flawed. The solution? Either by using heuristics (could get pretty difficult), or don't allow the malware to get onto your machine in the first place. That shouldn't be too difficult, if you think about it.

    With a multiuser system that actually enforces permissions, it's your fault if you click on that attachment. And the only thing that happens is you lose your home dir. I agree that using your personal data this way is much worse than losing system data, but it is also much more educating. If it happens to you once, you'll remember when you get the next suspiciously looking email. On the other hand, if your system slowly goes down due to the number of malware you have installed, you curse the vendor (M$), but you don't realise it's your own fault.

    1. Re:Wrong approach altogether by Fhqwhgadss · · Score: 1
      "With a multiuser system that actually enforces permissions, it's your fault if you click on that attachment. And the only thing that happens is you lose your home dir."

      In a perfect world, yes, this would work. The fact is that we still need a multi-layered approach to security. Let's say that the malware uses a privelege escalation exploit in the installed system, what then? You're screwed.

      If that doesn't fit your definition of "Multiuser system that actually enforces permissions" then call me when there's an OS that does fit your definition, because even OpenBSD has a local root exploit found on occasion. No matter how good, no code is perfect.

      No aspect of information security is going to be perfect, which is why we don't harden our systems and go home, or install a firewall and go home. In a perfect world, NIDS and Antivirus/Anti-Spyware software would be useless. As it stands now, they identify the crap that everything else misses, which is a lot.

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    2. Re:Wrong approach altogether by AeroIllini · · Score: 1

      With a multiuser system that actually enforces permissions, it's your fault if you click on that attachment. And the only thing that happens is you lose your home dir.

      Agreed. And to mitigate that, the system could have a script running (as a different user) that backs up your home directory to another partition every so often, where the original user does not have any write permissions.

      And if you have files that you wish no one else to see, then chmoding them 600 is not sufficient. They should be encrypted properly, but readable by the backup user so they can be copied during backup.

      This certainly wouldn't stop a rights-escalation attack or a rootkit, but it would cut down on the number of script-kiddie "Click this to win a prize" attacks and act as a safety net for the less paranoid users.

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    3. Re:Wrong approach altogether by gothfox · · Score: 1
      I seriously don't get this kind of proposals.

      First, any half-decently written malware will function just fine under limited user rights, nothing prevents you from sending spam or whatever they do under non-administrative account.

      Second, user data are actually the only thing worth of something on a typical desktop machine. You could always reinstall Windows, but this won't bring back your photos or spreadsheets. Unless you start sandboxing potentionally vulnerable software (think MSIE) your strategy will get you nothing.

    4. Re:Wrong approach altogether by GQuon · · Score: 1

      I think grandparent meant that once a user loses some data after clicking on such an attachment, (s)he will be more wary of doing it again.

      The sad part is that fewer viruses work in this way (causing noticable effects straight away). They stay hidden from the user sending spam and everything else with local privileges. And by using a "local" exploit, this local access can be escalated to full "root" access.

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  29. Text size too small.... by PoconoPCDoctor · · Score: 1, Informative

    Thanks for that tip! I found the page's font too tiny for my baby-boomer eyes. Just increased the text size, and the squinting wasn't necessary.

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    1. Re:Text size too small.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why I disable CSS in Netscape Communicator (Edit - Preferences - Advanced) when I am at work. I rarely ever deal with tiny fonts this way. At home I just browse them in Lynx. That way I have full control over fonts. :)

    2. Re:Text size too small.... by Tenebrous · · Score: 1

      Yeah, thanks for the tip. I'm about blind in one eye and can't see out of the other.

    3. Re:Text size too small.... by Cal+Paterson · · Score: 1

      firefox lets you have full control of font types and sizes too....

  30. Not a difficult question by cablepokerface · · Score: 1

    They will be ported to Vista.

  31. It's not just a technical problem by FishandChips · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So far, malware has been treated as an IT/commercial problem (which is what this article does), but it has become so pervasive and costly that it is also now a political problem. The barely fettered growth of malware - its sheer scale, organization and the amounts of money involved - raises a lot of questions about privacy, international cooperation and what to do about the internet itself. I don't think it's something that the IT industry can tackle on its own. You can have as much protection as you like, but so long as malware outfits can slip through 1001 transnational loopholes and exploit safe-haven jurisdictions there will always be a serious problem.

    I don't pretend to know the answers, but waving a copy of Norton Internet Security at the bad boys isn't it, for sure. Perhaps there is an element of deliberate wimping out going on here. The IT industry doesn't want to admit it cannot solve things alone, because it doesn't want politicians and regulators muscling in. And politicians like to pretend that malware is purely an IT problem because they don't want the headache of involvement in sorting out the mess.

    As one result, perhaps, domains ending in letters like .ru or .ro can apparently do what they like, and some notorious spammers and phishers remain on Top 50 lists for years without anyone so much as slapping their wrist. In previous centuries, the whole thing was called "piracy" and states tackled it with, erm, "extreme prejudice". Sometimes, I feel they may have been on to something.

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  32. Re:Biometrics & RFID--MODS ON CRACK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is "offtopic" about a comment on the possible future of malware including biometrics and RFID in an article about the future of malware?

    Mods not on crack, but Drano.

  33. Wow! Nearly 1.2e56 of them! That's a lot! Gee! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I have never seen 1.1962222086548019456196316149566e+56 exclamation points! That must be a new record! Quick! Somebody contact Guinness!

    1. Re:Wow! Nearly 1.2e56 of them! That's a lot! Gee! by halltk1983 · · Score: 1

      Nah... If you do, I'll write a perl script that generates a page that displays 45!+1 "!"s

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  34. Two Words: Titan Rain by mosel-saar-ruwer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    money

    Look, money is a perfectly fine motivation for script kiddies and Nigerian scam artists and ex-KGB Russian/Ukrainian mafiosi.

    But there's an outfit sitting behind a router in the PRC that has a different motivation; something along the lines of "Geopolitical World Dominance":

    The Invasion of the Chinese Cyberspies
    (And the Man Who Tried to Stop Them)

    ...The hackers he was stalking, part of a cyberespionage ring that federal investigators code-named Titan Rain, first caught Carpenter's eye a year earlier when he helped investigate a network break-in at Lockheed Martin in September 2003. A strikingly similar attack hit Sandia several months later, but it wasn't until Carpenter compared notes with a counterpart in Army cyberintelligence that he suspected the scope of the threat...

    http://www.securityteam.us/article.php/20050829200 849601/print

    http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/28/174 5245

    It's kinda like the board game "Risk", only this is the real McCoy.

    1. Re:Two Words: Titan Rain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, the web we weave by trying to do everything on the cheap and use crappy commodity hardware and software on critical systems. The solution is just too easy.

    2. Re:Two Words: Titan Rain by Reziac · · Score: 1

      TIME's so-called reporting has often been so bad that if they said the sky was overhead, I'd look up to make sure. But your comment reminded me of the old jape about comparative intelligence techniques:

      Objective: obtain a sample of American sand.

      The Soviets send a stealth submarine, which spits forth a scuba diver equipped with all the latest camoflage, who sneaks ashore in the dead of night.

      The Chinese send a million tourists to the beach.

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  35. future of malware == future of windows by kuyaedz · · Score: 1

    As long as M$ continues to sell shit, malware will continue to plague the general population. Ya'll go ahead & make sure your copy of Symantec is all up to date... hope you feel safe. In the meantime those of us who have half-a-brain will use an OS that isn't dependent on outside factors to work *properly (*this is assuming some people think M$ actually works properly to begin with).

  36. You forgot No 9 by SomethingOrOther · · Score: 1

    Malware can be categorized by the goal of the creator.
    You forgot the most obvious goal

    9. Because they can

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  37. There is only ONE solution by ajs318 · · Score: 1

    There is only ONE way to ensure a world which is TOTALLY free of Malware. That is to enshrine into the Law of the Land, the principle that the administrator of a computer, being King and God of all that happens to that computer, has the right -- personally or vicariously -- to view the source code of ANY application running on that computer. {From there,'tis but a short step indeed towards enshrining in law the rights of users of software to ENJOY, STUDY, SHARE and ADAPT that software; but we'll not jump the gun just now.}

    If vendors don't want to release the source code for their applications, then probably nine hundred and ninety-nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety-nine times out of a million, it's precisely because there is something in there that would make you decide not to use that software if you knew about it.

    Why is that the case? When I buy food, it tells me not only the ingredients, but also the amount of carbohydrates, fats and proteins in every 100 grammes. Food manufacturers are not exempt from the requirement to disclose what is in their products, why the hell should software manufacturers be?

    Even in the Open Source community, users outnumber developers. So something that sounds bad for developers {they won't necessarily get paid just for cranking out a shitty little closed source program, boo hoo} but is good for users should be supported.

    {You might get away with replacing general-purpose computers with computationally-incomplete appliances, but that would be a backward step.}

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  38. simple, actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody wants to hurt members of the MPAA/RIAA. While I have no doubt their cries and moans of loss are exponentially exxagerated, one would presume P2P has been a decent way to attack those bastards. You know, the whole "enemy of my enemy is my friend" dynamic. When the MPAA/RIAA are bankrupt, I would not be surprised to see P2P malware become more prevalent.

  39. Has anybody ever considered... by sammydee · · Score: 1
    It is possible that major antivirus companies could be writing a lot of malware. Firstly, it ensures that people continue to buy their product (can't sell antivirus if there are no viruses). It also gives them an advantage over their competitors (the company that writes the virus can build code into their application to stop it working). Then they can blame the competitor's antivirus app for not stopping this particular virus.

    I would not be at all surprised if this was the case.

  40. Dont know .. but ... by robpoe · · Score: 1

    Took a freshly installed WindowsXP machine, service pack nothing. Started up IExplore and set out to infect myself.

    I'll tell you what, there's a site I hit, that the second I got there, the computer seemed to lock up (the VMWare session went to 99%) for about 20 seconds. Then it came back to reality, the browser closed, the MS Picture viewer rendered a file called 892f98lkf43.WMF and then it closed. All of a sudden, I had about 10 toolbars, SpySheriff, my desktop changed to a "YOUR COMPUTER IS INFECTED WITH SPYWARE" black screen with white writing. SpySheriff made the system keep saying (from the task bar) "Windows has detected a spyware infection". That's deceptive, as it seems like Windows found it, but I digress.

    I tried to change the wallpaper, but it was disabled. When I brought IE back up, it went to c:\secure32.html .. on it was my IP address (of my outside net), my ISP (RR is all it said), and it mentioned that I was infected with spyware and would be investigated. It mentioned I should immediately run an anti-spyware check on my PC.

    I browsed back to the web, and was assaulted by porn. Not just big tits, washed up adult models, but stuff that would probably pique the interest of law enforcement (lolitas, etc). Some of it said "all models 18" but those didn't LOOK 18 enough for me.

    All brought to my VMWare machine by some website that auto-downloaded a BUNCH of stuff on my computer.

    For the final test, I downloaded StopZilla, which asked for a reboot. After I rebooted, all of the exploits on my machine were GONE. Fixed. Or, at least, quarantined.

    Delted / wiped the vmx file.

    whew!

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    1. Re:Dont know .. but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *Ahem* Link Please?

  41. The point I notice .... by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...Is his comment that they are going to target all peer 2 peer with this crap .

    I know virii were out there before, but this seems a tad more insidious .

    The disabling and bypassing of all know anti-virus software is their goal as well .

    Virii often were for just the point of overloading a network or taking a PC down .

    These don't want your PC down they want total remote control of it and want to
    keylog your credit cards, and your passwords and want to financially rape you .

    I have had several clients of late that have had remote access type spyware,
    and had keyloggers paired in with it, and their anti-virus and spybot unable to update .

    It is getting pretty bad compared to just a cpl of years ago .

    I think the paper is relevant if self appreciative of the submitter .

    Ex-MislTech

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    1. Re:The point I notice .... by generic-man · · Score: 1

      Most trojans out there use IRC in some form. Most modify your mIRC scripts file (SCRIPT.INI?) to automatically DCC-send an installer to everyone who joins channels you're in. Some also connect directly to an IRC server to listen for remote-access commands. As an unfortunate casualty of this, many corporate networks block outgoing IRC connection requests. IRC doesn't have too many business uses, but sometimes an open source project uses IRC for "support."

      Infecting P2P networks is the next logical step since IRC is going the way of Usenet (not dying so much as shrinking to a loyal core of users).

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  42. Yawn. by TheLink · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's what they call future trends? If that's right we're pretty safe then.

    What would be interesting would be malware written in popular high level scripting or bytecode languages - e.g. perl, python, lisp. These do and will run on windows - with broadband becoming widespread it doesn't take long to download and run the relevant packed perl/python/lisp executable, and such executables do have legitimate uses anyway.

    You can very easily write games/utils in such languages to help them spread as trojans.

    It'll be interesting to see how the AV people will cope with these.

    An attacker should be able to rapidly generate multiple versions of the malware faster than the AV people can generate signatures.

    The malware can search for updates and download them with the help of search engines like google (google groups) and various blog/discussion sites. They might even be able to communicate with each other via spam email.

    I'm not even sure if the code signing stuff will help.

    After all the initial code could be innocuous with perhaps one or two really terrible "bugs". But subsequent code could be totally different. Because with such languages once the first bit is in, fetching and executing new code isn't as hard as downloading a new executable binary (which may require passing checks by the O/S and AV software), it's just downloading/finding the correctly identified/tagged string and running the equivalent of "eval" on it. Heck, one could just blindly run a string and catch the resulting exceptions if it's not proper code.

    I'm not a malware author, but I think most malware is rather primitive (esp those on windows[1]). I'm wondering how advanced the malware detection and prevention stuff really is.

    [1] I guess they don't need to be very sophisticated when the users actually do stuff like help enter the right passwords to unzip the malware and then voluntarily run the payload! Even better those users usually run as admin.

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  43. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't live by the latest trends... I choose linux! :-)

  44. Right idea, but may need SELinux to do right by Animats · · Score: 1
    This is a big step in the right direction, and it's been proposed before by many people. The problem is that it takes coordinated work in the OS and the browser to make it work. If you get it wrong, you block some current attack vectors but create new ones.

    The right answer for security purposes is to run the renderer component of a browser in a kind of jail, with each page (or at least each site) rendered in its own jail. An instance of the renderer should be launched with a connection to a window, a connection to the net, and a connection to a cache subdirectory for the site being rendered. With the instance in a jail, unable to open files, damage is limited. The rendererer can be corrupted, but when the page is closed, the problem is gone.

    Of course, this breaks tabbed browsing; can't have two sites in one window. Secure cut and paste requires a "guard", a firewall for the clipboard. Program invocation from the browser might be allowed, but confined to the same jail, such programs can't do much. Downloads all have to go into quarantine.

    That's what it takes to achieve browser security that works. This has been known since the 1980s. A very few DoD systems work this way. Users hate it.

    The necessary compartmentalization needs machinery like that in SELinux. Users and groups just aren't enough.

    Would you give up tabbed browsing and browser toolbars to get security? Ask your users that.

    That's the problem.

    1. Re:Right idea, but may need SELinux to do right by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 1
      This is a big step in the right direction, and it's been proposed before by many people. The problem is that it takes coordinated work in the OS and the browser to make it work. If you get it wrong, you block some current attack vectors but create new ones... Would you give up tabbed browsing and browser toolbars to get security? Ask your users that.

      Maybe it wouldn't solve all the problems, but just making things a bit harder has a dramatic effect on the prevalence of malware. Apache is far from vulnerability-free, but all the major worms target IIS. I'm willing to accept a certain amount of inconvenience to get better security, though I admit probably not pain-in-the-ass inconvenience to get near-total security.

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    2. Re:Right idea, but may need SELinux to do right by Animats · · Score: 1
      Maybe it wouldn't solve all the problems, but just making things a bit harder has a dramatic effect on the prevalence of malware.

      Not any more. Read the original article. Malware now has enough of a profitable ecosystem that people are being paid for writing it. It's not just some kid in their parent's basement any more. Malware is far more complex than it was even two years ago. Just plugging holes one at a time isn't working any more. Patch-based security and signature-based detection are routinely being overcome by the current generation of malware.

    3. Re:Right idea, but may need SELinux to do right by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 1
      Malware now has enough of a profitable ecosystem that people are being paid for writing it. It's not just some kid in their parent's basement any more. Malware is far more complex than it was even two years ago.

      Yes, I acknowledge that. But defense-in-depth is the way to deal with that. My personal web server takes that to an extreme, and is virtually unhackable. It's running an undisclosed version of a relatively obscure httpd in a chroot jail on a relatively obscure OS on a relatively obscure processor architecture. It is also on a DMZ with no way to get out to the broader Internet. The amount of effort needed to hack that, relative to the reward involved, is extremely prohibitive.

      Putting up layers of defense will not necessarily stop a targeted attack (spear phishing and so forth) but it does have a direct inhibitory effect on self-propogating, automatic malware. It has to be far more focused and specific.

      For example, on Windows, almost any browser exploit gets you automatic Administrator access since so many users run as Administrator because it's painful to do it any other way. On Linux, the kind of tricks to conceal and pervert the OS that malware use are much harder, simply because you need *two* exploits, one for the application and another to elevate privileges. This is a significantly harder problem and limits the potential victims to those with both flaws. Patching one or the other at least mitigates the potential damage. This reduces network effects and helps minimize spread.

      Patch-based security and signature-based detection are routinely being overcome by the current generation of malware.

      So, again, adding more layers of defense is a good thing. If nothing else, making yourself an inconvenient target means the malicious types will usually go look for lower-hanging fruit.

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    4. Re:Right idea, but may need SELinux to do right by toadlife · · Score: 1

      "Apache is far from vulnerability-free, but all the major worms target IIS"

      Hey, five years ago called and wants that statement back.

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    5. Re:Right idea, but may need SELinux to do right by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 1
      Hey, five years ago called and wants that statement back.

      That's really clever. It's a reflexive statement on itself, isn't it?

      But if it makes you happy, how about: "Apache has had more vulnerabilities than IIS 6 and yet, despite its popularity, it hasn't been subjected to any major worms the way IIS 5 has."

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  45. Interesting, But Well-Written? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

    ...Perhaps by Slashdot standards.

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  46. lack of security intentional? by fdisk3hs · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Has anybody looked into the idea that companies (such as pharmaceutical marketers) are paying Microsoft to not fix vulnerabilities? This is something that I've wondered about often, but never read anything about. A "Halloween Document" on this would be very interesting...
    A lot of users have asked me over the years if Microsoft is paid by antivirus companies not to fix vulnerabilities. This is apparently an easy leap of logic for the most untechnical folks. We know that pharmaceutical marketers are using bots to crawl and reap email addresses, as the Perl developer that tried to blow the whistle on them last year had his computers confiscated by the cops, who were sent by his employer to ensure a cover-up (stop their ex-employee from publishing company secrets using some kind of Industrial Espionage legislation). Sigh.

  47. Fight Money with No Money by Newsboy9 · · Score: 1

    Ok so it's a general concensus that money is at least one of the main forces behind malware, so why don't we hit them where it hurts. Anytime a company is found to have used these practices they are "blacklisted." Basically boycott any company that is known to use this practice and make them aware that we will no longer purchase products or services from them until they cease and desist. You would be surprised at the effect that boycott's have had on big business. Doubt me? Google it.

    1. Re:Fight Money with No Money by fdisk3hs · · Score: 1

      That's a fine idea. Problem is I doubt the Slashdot readers are pharmaceutical marketing companies looking to buy email addresses and HR data. There is a lot of demand out there for this information, and as long as that's true, someone will supply.
      The tough part is how do you stop it? Legislation? Who would enforce it? Our law enforcement system, even at the federal level, would never make a dent. Network security teams could report abusers, but it would take so long to put together enough proof to do anything legally that no one will put the resources into it. It's a tough problem.

  48. flawed for the company? or flawed for the user? by Khashishi · · Score: 1
    The whole signature-based antivirus approach is fundamentally flawed.

    It seems to me that a signature-based antivirus system (that needs to be updated continuously via subscription) is a more steady and lucrative form of business model than a final solution to all computer security.

  49. No! by Belial6 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If fingerprints ever start being widely used, muggers will just hit you over the head and cut off your fingers. They can check to see if you have a bank account later. If you think that there are not plenty of people that would cut your fingers off for the chance of a couple of hundred dollars, you are sadly mistaken, and a danger to the rest of society.

    1. Re:No! by Reziac · · Score: 1

      It all depends on where the level of desperation lies in a society. In the middle ages, and again during the Great Depression of less than a century ago, you had a small but finite chance of being killed for your boots. Not too likely at present in the civilized world, but in third world countries, there are still people in low enough straits to have no qualms about killing you for as little as your fingerprint.

      Occurs to me that not only could biometric logins be captured by a program similar to a keystroke logger. Even without murder, this could put a whole new twist on home invasion robberies: a doodad that captures your thumbprint and sends it to your PC can also capture it and send it to a laptop. So a gang invades your living room, holds you at gunpoint, takes your thumbprint (and any relevant ID info), feeds it into their handy laptop, and goes their merry way.

      Now what? You can change your passwords, credit card, and bank account, but changing your name is more difficult, and changing your thumbprint is in another league entirely.

      [I can just see it: your thumbprints have been stolen, so you have to resort to a set from the Used Thumb Store...]

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  50. Re:What are the driving forces behind the rise of by drn8 · · Score: 0

    Who's behind it, and what tactics do they use?

    Anti-virus vendors and Microsoft(?); FUD.

  51. Great tip! by Merdalors · · Score: 1

    Thank you for Alt-V-Y-N (View - Page Style - No Style)!! You have made my day and justified many hours squandered on /.

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  52. I ain't a tech... by Greg_D · · Score: 1

    ... but I play one occasionally in my spare time (Computer Science degree = computer tech to most people around here).

    One of my neighbors ran into the dual headed buzzsaws called SpyAxe and Spywarestrike. Both of these programs are supposedly anti-spyware programs, when in reality, they're hijackers that hold your computer for ransom. Both programs place a flashing error message in your system tray warning you that your computer is infected with spyware and that you need to purchase the full version of their product to get rid of them. These messages fill up a quarter of the screen and constantly pop up. If you uninstall the software, they reinstall themselves on the next reboot. To get rid of SpyAxe, I had to run a custom program in safe mode. For SpywareStrike, I ran across a forum message on Sysinternals that said all I had to do was delete a dll file from the System32 directory.

    It would have cost them less to purchase the software than it cost me to fix their machines, but I think they gained a lot of valuable insight when I explained to them what vulnerabilities their computer had and how they could avoid problems in the future. They had no firewall, were using IE, hadn't updated Windows in forever, and were running Norton with an out of date virus definition file.

    Luckily, they also follow directions.

  53. The Bottom Line. by cwsulliv · · Score: 1

    It all boils down to whether it's a Malware author or Microsoft who can first make a legitimate claim to: "ALL your PC are belong to us".

    (Presuming that there are actually differences between those two entities.)

  54. End the Monoculture... by TropicalCoder · · Score: 0

    I read the entire article. I really appreciate the author taking the time and trouble to share his knowledge with us, so I won't mention that his writing style was almost incoherent and left me dizzy.

    The more I read and learn about the magnitude of the problem, the more paranoid I become these days. Just the thought of hundreds of thousands of computers under the control of criminals or foreign governments is frightening. The idea expressed by the author that a certain sector of industry could be specifically targeted to harvest all their knowledge is very worrisome. Imagine the benefits to be had by some unscrupulous foreign power to dominate segments of the world's economy with such ill-gained knowledge.

    The fact the many billions of dollars are being made by these criminals is also disturbing. The flow of revenue to the underworld gives power to the criminals - power to bribe and corrupt and spread their evil and grow like a cancer. I think its time for a more organized approach to counteract the threats discussed, both present and potential.

    My first thought is this - a problem of this magnitude simply wouldn't exist if it weren't for the Windows operating system. Now perhaps that's unfair to say, because a million other benefits of having a common platform would also not exist if it weren't for Windows as well. Simply, the software industry as we know it just wouldn't exist without a common platform. The fact that one has a ready market on 90% of the world's computer for their software products is an incredible incentive for the growth of the industry.

    We allowed Microsoft to dominate the desktop because we all benefited from platform standardization, and now we have seen what this monoculture has brought us. We allowed Microsoft to become one of the richest companies in the world because it was convenient for us, and now we are in a seriously vulnerable position because of that. Now its time for Microsoft to take full responsibility for the legacy they have given us - the good, the bad, and the ugly.

    Microsoft is not a person, and this is not a personal attack on Bill Gates, who is doing some wonderful things with the many billions that we permitted him to earn. Microsoft is a multinational entity - a machine that we have allowed to run out of control - a technological Frankenstein.

    There must be an immediate end to the Monoculture. I suggest that legislation be immediately enacted requiring Microsoft to stop all development on all new products and focus all their efforts and resources on fixing all the software out there that they created (at least until their revenue streams dry up, that is). Otherwise, they will just go on extending the Monoculture - into our living rooms, onto our telephones, into our refrigerators, until we become so hopelessly vulnerable that one day some virus is going to come along and make the whole world crash and burn.

    The second thing we need to do is form an army to combat the criminals. Use their own techniques against them. Send viruses out into the world to clean these infected machines. Do Dos attacks on phishing sites. Require ISPs to run AI software that detects unusual patterns of internet use by their customers. Say a customer is know to typically log on everyday for half an hour - probably just checks his email before supper, and suddenly his machine is uploading data 24 hours a day - it's a dead giveaway that something may be wrong. The ISP has to take responsibility to contact such a customer to see if perhaps he has a problem - an infection. Take this exact same strategy to the next level, to the big carriers. Force them as well to monitor patterns of use and proactively investigate potential problems instead of simply rejoicing in the increased revenues.

    Since this comment is already far to long, I leave this part undeveloped, but you get the idea. Its time to take back the internet.

    1. Re:End the Monoculture... by fdisk3hs · · Score: 1

      Well, rub a lamp dude. No one is going to make Microsoft do much of anything. Unfortunately Java as a platform is only more secure than the rest of the Windows environment, not imminently secure. Using tools like Mozilla and the Java platform raises the exploit bar a little, but there's still a lot of bad software out there.
      Several layers of 'trustedness' between the Web, the different classes in an application, and the operating system would make it much harder for something coming in from the Web to make Bad Things Happen. Maybe someday they will implement such things in the native Windows environment?
      The question is, why hasn't Microsoft recompiled their stuff with buffer safe libraries? The fax viewer code was just a dumb design, allowing data in an image file to tell the system to make calls. Those things are harder to find. But not if you're as big as Microsoft. There should be a way to modify their automatic documentation generation code to help them find calls and methods that are possibly exploitable, then just run down the list.
      Maybe a good outcome of all this is that in the future, or at least after .NET, instead of making a bazillion API calls available, 20% of which ever get used, they will focus on basic code safety. Small languages like Python and even Perl have 'got 'er done' for years, and most Visual Studio developers only use a similarly small subset of available calls to do their work. I'm sure it's fun for the high level theoreticians at Microsoft to flesh out those APIs, but we need to stop the bleeding and make the calls safe first.

  55. Re:Ummprint by Brewskibrew · · Score: 1

    The technology is evolving so that in addition to simply checking that the bumps on your palm print or retinal scan match what's on file, but also that there's a pulse and/or positive blood pressure. The bad guys simply whacking off your arm or taking an eye-ball ala Demolition Man http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106697/ won't work.

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