Is it just me, or is the first onslaught of posts unusually full of people who seem to want to judge government first and read/think later? I mean, beyond the usual level here.
I mean, something has to be done. We are well over 50% of the internet's capacity being used to send people junk mail, most of it both offensive and fraudulent, far too much of it containing executable payloads that harm the internet itself, etc.
If the ISPs don't take voluntary action at a level of minimum intrusion, some excited parents' group is going to hold a referendum and hand their government the right to intrude in every living room.
Sure, this proposal goes too far in places, misses the boat technically in others. It's not perfect. But it's better than legalizing deep inspection to be adminitered and performed by the agency of the UN/international courts.
If we want better than this, we need to come up with counter-proposals of our own, get out, educate people. (And get ourselves off the OS that is the primary medium of abuse.)
Is it just me, or is the first onslaught of posts unusually full of people who seem to want to judge government first and read/think later? I mean, beyond the usual level here.
I mean, something has to be done. We are well over 50% of the internet's capacity being used to send people junk mail, most of it both offensive and fraudulent, far too much of it containing executable payloads that harm the internet itself, etc.
If the ISPs don't take voluntary action at a level of minimum intrusion, some excited parents' group is going to hold a referendum and hand their government the right to intrude in every living room.
Sure, this proposal goes too far in places, misses the boat technically in others. It's not perfect. But it's better than legalizing deep inspection to be adminitered and performed by the agency of the UN/international courts.
If we want better than this, we need to come up with counter-proposals of our own, get out, educate people. (And get ourselves off the OS that is the primary medium of abuse.)
I think ~everyone has thought of doing something like this at least for a moment. It makes perfect sense until you actually... think it through.
The problem most folks have with this has two parts:
As an unusually insightful AC above noted, the ability to tell a machine is really a zombie ~requires deep packet monitoring/logging. This is where A) We don't want them to go, as it's none of their business, and.. B) The ISPs don't want to go, as it's not their problem, and they get to pay for the privilege.
Add the legal ability for the Government to "kill" the net with deep packet monitoring/logging and you have Big Brother. (Assuming it isn't here already, I suspect the dogs are loose already)
OTOH the next step is only allowing machines on the `net running the approved AV suite on Windows like some universities etc.
Climate scientists suggest that aerosols are hurting the ozone layer, and point to an actual growing hole in the ozone layer. We reduce aerosols, the hole in the ozone layer shrinks..
IIRC a few Australian scientists reanalyzed the "ozone hole" data awhile back, and it correlated ~100% to the output of the VOLCANO near the south pole, and did not correlate to man-made "ozone depleting" gas output well at all, indicating that industry wasted billions of dollars converting to fix a problem that didn't really exist, and converted to replacement gasses that are actually excellent greenhouse gasses in the process.
I thought they figured out a few years ago the ozone "hole" in Antarcticas size correlated ~100% to the emissions of the volcano down there, and quite poorly with human generated CFCs emission volumes.
Perhaps too inconveinient a truth to be widely discussed...
Perhaps someday the Montreal protocol will be viewed as the tipping point that caused global warming, as the replacements for CFCs are generally hugely efficient greenhouse gasses.;-)
Back in the ~70s, in the bidding stage of the shuttle program, General Dynamics had some interesting designs for a reusable--- FLYABLE---landed on its own, was piloted--- liquid fueled boost stage for a shuttle... and that proposed version of the shuttle was made of titanium mostly and had about 2X the payload, and far more range, and probably would have cost 1/4 of the final "cheaper" congressional mandated aluminum design.
Perhaps we should dust off some of the designs that lost the shuttle design-off due to congressional interference.
The shuttles concept didn't suck. The final design did.
(My dad worked for GD back in the day, including at the cape)
I understand what you are saying, but as to the versioning--- 4.0 was essentially a clean sheet redo of KDE, right down to the foundations... so what were they going to call it? It isn't V3-anything.
The dire warnings of the devs prominently on KDEs website for all to see that this was under heavy development, do not use etc should have been more than sufficient that There Be Dragons Here.
KDE4-4.0-.1ish (and maybe even 4.2) should likely have been left as optional installs for folks to try if they dared, and more than one distro "got" this.
As has been mentioned, if you have a separate/home partition , reinstalling clean on a system / partition and updating from there will be far FASTER than updating an old distro, and less likely to have configuration weirdness after install--- I would venture a guess most of not all linux distros (hell, ANY OS) would see much the same.
Mandriva has been pretty solid as to version updates of the distro working for as long as I have been using it, but a ONE live CD can be tested on the hardware and installed in 30 minutes even on far less than modern hardware, and 10 min on a fast machine.
Updating from say 2008.0 to 2009.0 can take hours.
Been using Mandriva for years/hated 2009.0 until I installed KDE3...
I've been following cooker for a few months, KDE4.2 has been working nicely for awhile... D'Ld ONE-KDE and installed it on all 3 machines here already, no unusual issues (I have yet to be able to say that about ANY Ubuntu release)
Currently works flawlessly as far as I can tell.
The only standing "issue" I've run into is mythbackend seems to spin for some reason when started as a service, runs fine run in a shell. (PLF version, haven't worked it yet)
This is a showstopper for me and 2009.0 is staying on THAT box until fixed... likely an easy fix, just figured I'd mention it.
2009.1 still wants to turn on 3D on a Radeon Mobility 9000, which causes X to spin it's wheels/hangs machine (Xorg issue, hits ubuntu etc as well)....Booting to runlevel 1 or 3 and running XFdrake/turning off 3d THEN telinit 5 gets you a nice installed system. (This chipset appears to have been borked on ALL distros since late 2007)
---begin troll Installing Ubuntu always eventually makes me want to start throwing stuff due to random stuff that Just Doesn't Work, like wifi configuration. ---end troll
It would also (logically) allow for a company to have a single, standardized XP virtual machine image rolled out to all users, that would run on any machine hardwarethey happen to have.
It's the only way I'll run XP now, Virtualbox works quite well. (No, I don't play games)
Even QEMU rocks, I could boot to "you have unused items on the desktop..." in ~ 8 seconds with one particualar test image, on a lowly BE2300 setup.
"There are no longer any Linux netbooks for sale at physical retail stores where I live (USA). No, it's not that they're out of stock frequently (as some Windows models are); they are no longer kept in stock.
Target is the only retailer that even lists Linux models on their website; they used to sell the 7" Eee PC in stores. Now they sell Windows models in-store & advertise them, as do all the other retail stores that sell computers."
The conspiracy theory loving part of me wonders if that was actually sales driven, or driven on the golf course.:-\
Perhaps do up a good demo and sell it as the next version of the product?
Build a buisiness case, and sell it, set it up as a small more or less independant programming group, with clear goals etc. (And have upper management sign off on it, in writing)
Occasionally even large companies demonstrate signs of harboring intelligent life.
"[T]he mass of gluons is zero and the mass of quarks is only five per cent. Where, therefore, is the missing 95 per cent? The answer, according to the study published in the US journal Science on Thursday, comes from the energy from the movements and interactions of quarks and gluons. "
To repeat what A.C. asked...
This is too obvious to be correct, but perhaps that explains "dark matter"???
(Or is this missing 95% already accounted for somewhere?)
I personally understand AMDs purchase of ATI, it mostly suffered from really bad timing, more or less coinciding with the release of the Barcelona and a severe money crunch.
Long term, the integration of AMD & ATI should prove to generate very interesting products, on both ends of the power/performance spectrum.
by Orion Blastar (457579) on Saturday November 08, @06:42PM (#25690583) Homepage "In consumer electronic stores there are $350 Laptops (after rebate) with Intel Graphic chips and 2G of RAM a 120G HD. that run Vista and cost less than a Netbook.
The $350 Laptop can easily be reformatted to run XP, Linux, AROS, or whatever."
And they absolutely scream running Linus. (At least compared to a Netbook)
Having said that, I spied a neat little netbook at Target the other night, I wanted to take it home, soooo cuuuuute... And only $299. Think it was the EEE, ran Linux.
"How could they possibly implement OOXML support in OpenOffice? We've been hearing over and over how the OOXML spec is so convoluted and ill-specified that it is impossible for anyone but Microsoft to implement!"
I know you're a troll, but I'll bite back...
This may be be the first actual OOXML IMPLEMENTATION in a release version of ANY office suite...;-)
Some are actually perfectly compatible, but the manufacturers seem to go out of their way to hide it.
I ran into much the same on a HP laptop my son bought--- No real XP drivers for it on the HP website. (Later found those mostly didn't work anyway)
(Vista wouldn't work for him, home buisiness, and the software he MUST use won't play, plus the machine was a dog with Vista, so it wasn't worth the effort of finding work arounds)
Booted into Linux (used the lates Mandriva ONE disc, 2008.1 currently) everything worked, and it merrily told me EXACTLY what chipset and support chips it had...
An ~hour later, it had a clean install of XP on it with everything working, given that chipset/componenet info I was able to hit the various chip websites for the right drivers easily.
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Is it just me, or is the first onslaught of posts unusually full of people who seem to want to judge government first and read/think later? I mean, beyond the usual level here.
I mean, something has to be done. We are well over 50% of the internet's capacity being used to send people junk mail, most of it both offensive and fraudulent, far too much of it containing executable payloads that harm the internet itself, etc.
If the ISPs don't take voluntary action at a level of minimum intrusion, some excited parents' group is going to hold a referendum and hand their government the right to intrude in every living room.
Sure, this proposal goes too far in places, misses the boat technically in others. It's not perfect. But it's better than legalizing deep inspection to be adminitered and performed by the agency of the UN/international courts.
If we want better than this, we need to come up with counter-proposals of our own, get out, educate people. (And get ourselves off the OS that is the primary medium of abuse.)
Is it just me, or is the first onslaught of posts unusually full of people who seem to want to judge government first and read/think later? I mean, beyond the usual level here.
I mean, something has to be done. We are well over 50% of the internet's capacity being used to send people junk mail, most of it both offensive and fraudulent, far too much of it containing executable payloads that harm the internet itself, etc.
If the ISPs don't take voluntary action at a level of minimum intrusion, some excited parents' group is going to hold a referendum and hand their government the right to intrude in every living room.
Sure, this proposal goes too far in places, misses the boat technically in others. It's not perfect. But it's better than legalizing deep inspection to be adminitered and performed by the agency of the UN/international courts.
If we want better than this, we need to come up with counter-proposals of our own, get out, educate people. (And get ourselves off the OS that is the primary medium of abuse.)
I think ~everyone has thought of doing something like this at least for a moment.
It makes perfect sense until you actually... think it through.
The problem most folks have with this has two parts:
As an unusually insightful AC above noted, the ability to tell a machine is really a zombie ~requires deep packet monitoring/logging.
This is where
A) We don't want them to go, as it's none of their business, and..
B) The ISPs don't want to go, as it's not their problem, and they get to pay for the privilege.
Add the legal ability for the Government to "kill" the net with deep packet monitoring/logging and you have Big Brother.
(Assuming it isn't here already, I suspect the dogs are loose already)
OTOH the next step is only allowing machines on the `net running the approved AV suite on Windows like some universities etc.
Climate scientists suggest that aerosols are hurting the ozone layer, and point to an actual growing hole in the ozone layer. We reduce aerosols, the hole in the ozone layer shrinks. .
IIRC a few Australian scientists reanalyzed the "ozone hole" data awhile back, and it correlated ~100% to the output of the VOLCANO near the south pole, and did not correlate to man-made "ozone depleting" gas output well at all, indicating that industry wasted billions of dollars converting to fix a problem that didn't really exist, and converted to replacement gasses that are actually excellent greenhouse gasses in the process.
Or was this made up too?
I thought they figured out a few years ago the ozone "hole" in Antarcticas size correlated ~100% to the emissions of the volcano down there, and quite poorly with human generated CFCs emission volumes.
Perhaps too inconveinient a truth to be widely discussed...
Perhaps someday the Montreal protocol will be viewed as the tipping point that caused global warming, as the replacements for CFCs are generally hugely efficient greenhouse gasses. ;-)
Yes, slashdot has apparently DOS'd a guvmint lab.
Expect the black DHS helicopters to arrive in 3,2,1... ;-)
...Or for a tad more energy efficiency vs. using RADAR to heat up the bats skull to produce sound, put some SPEAKERS on the bloody blades.
Or air activated "deer warnings" on the blades, except ones that work for bats.
(Dangerously assuming those worked for Deer, but you get the idea)
Back in the ~70s, in the bidding stage of the shuttle program, General Dynamics had some interesting designs for a reusable--- FLYABLE---landed on its own, was piloted--- liquid fueled boost stage for a shuttle... and that proposed version of the shuttle was made of titanium mostly and had about 2X the payload, and far more range, and probably would have cost 1/4 of the final "cheaper" congressional mandated aluminum design.
Perhaps we should dust off some of the designs that lost the shuttle design-off due to congressional interference.
The shuttles concept didn't suck.
The final design did.
(My dad worked for GD back in the day, including at the cape)
I understand what you are saying, but as to the versioning--- 4.0 was essentially a clean sheet redo of KDE, right down to the foundations... so what were they going to call it? It isn't V3-anything.
The dire warnings of the devs prominently on KDEs website for all to see that this was under heavy development, do not use etc should have been more than sufficient that There Be Dragons Here.
KDE4-4.0-.1ish (and maybe even 4.2) should likely have been left as optional installs for folks to try if they dared, and more than one distro "got" this.
Very true, NOT KDE devs fault, even Mandriva had KDE4 as default for 2009.0, and it was nowhere NEAR ready.
OTOH, there were multiple choices of installers and ONE live CDs with different defaults.
KDE 3.5 was still fully supported, and worked fine.
Having said all that, 2009.1 came with KDE4.2(something) and works very nice, as well as LOOKS very nice.
I wouldn't write KDE off just yet, using Gnome still makes a lot of folks want to throw stuff.
You're correct. But how is controlling costs "laziness"?
"Taking kickbacks" is not technically controlling costs...
As has been mentioned, if you have a separate /home partition , reinstalling clean on a system / partition and updating from there will be far FASTER than updating an old distro, and less likely to have configuration weirdness after install--- I would venture a guess most of not all linux distros (hell, ANY OS) would see much the same.
Mandriva has been pretty solid as to version updates of the distro working for as long as I have been using it, but a ONE live CD can be tested on the hardware and installed in 30 minutes even on far less than modern hardware, and 10 min on a fast machine.
Updating from say 2008.0 to 2009.0 can take hours.
Mandriva ....works?
Been using Mandriva for years/hated 2009.0 until I installed KDE3...
I've been following cooker for a few months, KDE4.2 has been working nicely for awhile... D'Ld ONE-KDE and installed it on all 3 machines here already, no unusual issues
(I have yet to be able to say that about ANY Ubuntu release)
Currently works flawlessly as far as I can tell.
The only standing "issue" I've run into is mythbackend seems to spin for some reason when started as a service, runs fine run in a shell. (PLF version, haven't worked it yet)
This is a showstopper for me and 2009.0 is staying on THAT box until fixed... likely an easy fix, just figured I'd mention it.
2009.1 still wants to turn on 3D on a Radeon Mobility 9000, which causes X to spin it's wheels/hangs machine (Xorg issue, hits ubuntu etc as well). ...Booting to runlevel 1 or 3 and running XFdrake/turning off 3d THEN telinit 5 gets you a nice installed system. (This chipset appears to have been borked on ALL distros since late 2007)
---begin troll
Installing Ubuntu always eventually makes me want to start throwing stuff due to random stuff that Just Doesn't Work, like wifi configuration.
---end troll
It would also (logically) allow for a company to have a single, standardized XP virtual machine image rolled out to all users, that would run on any machine hardwarethey happen to have.
It's the only way I'll run XP now, Virtualbox works quite well. (No, I don't play games)
Even QEMU rocks, I could boot to "you have unused items on the desktop..." in ~ 8 seconds with one particualar test image, on a lowly BE2300 setup.
"There are no longer any Linux netbooks for sale at physical retail stores where I live (USA). No, it's not that they're out of stock frequently (as some Windows models are); they are no longer kept in stock.
Target is the only retailer that even lists Linux models on their website; they used to sell the 7" Eee PC in stores. Now they sell Windows models in-store & advertise them, as do all the other retail stores that sell computers."
The conspiracy theory loving part of me wonders if that was actually sales driven, or driven on the golf course. :-\
You can set up a KDE4.2 desktop so that it is virually indistinguishable fron a KDE3 one.
I've been keeping Mandriva cooker current, release of 2001 spring is sometime this month...
Works very nice, now.
There is no longer any urgent need to install KDE3x as with 2009.0.
IIRC the VA uses a pretty robust system, and it is FOSS (public domain).
Is there some paricular reason it cannot (or isn't) certified, and or become the reference system?
I believe a better solution to the fat finger problem could be:
A:don't use touchscreens.
B:make the touchscreen bigger, to suit the customer, rather than fashion.
Only I'm not 100% sure that parent post was being sarcastic...
That and a huge bonus at the end for all (and probably nicer digs/other bennies would be implied of course.
Perhaps do up a good demo and sell it as the next version of the product?
Build a buisiness case, and sell it, set it up as a small more or less independant programming group, with clear goals etc.
(And have upper management sign off on it, in writing)
Occasionally even large companies demonstrate signs of harboring intelligent life.
(I realise YMMV seriously)
"[T]he mass of gluons is zero and the mass of quarks is only five per cent. Where, therefore, is the missing 95 per cent? The answer, according to the study published in the US journal Science on Thursday, comes from the energy from the movements and interactions of quarks and gluons. "
To repeat what A.C. asked...
This is too obvious to be correct, but perhaps that explains "dark matter"???
(Or is this missing 95% already accounted for somewhere?)
I personally understand AMDs purchase of ATI, it mostly suffered from really bad timing, more or less coinciding with the release of the Barcelona and a severe money crunch.
Long term, the integration of AMD & ATI should prove to generate very interesting products, on both ends of the power/performance spectrum.
If they survive.
You do realize this article has ~absolutely nothing to do with gaming, or even normal users, right?
The systems discussed using CUDA or GPGPU will probably spend ~100% of their lives running flat out, doing simulations or such.
Visualize a Beowulf Cluster of these. Really.
by Orion Blastar (457579) on Saturday November 08, @06:42PM (#25690583) Homepage
"In consumer electronic stores there are $350 Laptops (after rebate) with Intel Graphic chips and 2G of RAM a 120G HD. that run Vista and cost less than a Netbook.
The $350 Laptop can easily be reformatted to run XP, Linux, AROS, or whatever."
And they absolutely scream running Linus.
(At least compared to a Netbook)
Having said that, I spied a neat little netbook at Target the other night, I wanted to take it home, soooo cuuuuute...
And only $299. Think it was the EEE, ran Linux.
"How could they possibly implement OOXML support in OpenOffice? We've been hearing over and over how the OOXML spec is so convoluted and ill-specified that it is impossible for anyone but Microsoft to implement!"
I know you're a troll, but I'll bite back...
This may be be the first actual OOXML IMPLEMENTATION in a release version of ANY office suite... ;-)
Some are actually perfectly compatible, but the manufacturers seem to go out of their way to hide it.
I ran into much the same on a HP laptop my son bought--- No real XP drivers for it on the HP website. (Later found those mostly didn't work anyway)
(Vista wouldn't work for him, home buisiness, and the software he MUST use won't play, plus the machine was a dog with Vista, so it wasn't worth the effort of finding work arounds)
Booted into Linux (used the lates Mandriva ONE disc, 2008.1 currently) everything worked, and it merrily told me EXACTLY what chipset and support chips it had...
An ~hour later, it had a clean install of XP on it with everything working, given that chipset/componenet info I was able to hit the various chip websites for the right drivers easily.