I think that in this case, "pretty well established" is probably a correct
term, but I also think it is a mistake.
The question is not why unwanted email was originally named "spam".
The question is why the term was immediately adopted and enthusiastically used
by so many people.
The people who named it "spam" and the people who adopted the term so
easily and with such popularity were probably older people, not teenagers or
people in their early twenties. I say that because I believe the formula for
Hormel Foods SPAM has changed. I tried SPAM in the 50's. Even as a child I was
disgusted by the fat in SPAM then. So, when I first heard the word "spam"
associated with unwanted email, I completely understood and agreed wtih the
reference.
If unwanted email had been named "foot stomp", I might have recognized
the reference to the Monty Python TV show, but I would not have adopted the
term myself.
I remember trying a bite of Hormel Foods SPAM several years ago, and I
was surprised that it was not disgusting. That's why I think that the formula
was changed.
Someone, please look on a can of Hormel Foods SPAM and post a comment
with the total calories per serving and the number of fat calories per
serviing.
Funny official
statement from Hormel Foods: Let's face it. Today's teens and young
adults are more computer savvy than ever, and the next generations will be
even more so. Children will be exposed to the slang term "spam" to describe
UCE well before being exposed to our famous product SPAM. Ultimately, we are
trying to avoid the day when the consuming public asks, "Why would Hormel
Foods name its product after junk e-mail?"
"Does Spam taste corpsy? Of course it tastes corpsy -- it's meat. We're just arguing about the identity of the deceased."
Also: "... the name Spam is derived from the words "spicy ham,..."
It seems to me that islanders liked Hormel SPAM because it was the cheapest form of meat product and because they accepted high fat food because they ate coconut.
Good question, but a disgusting one. Anyone ever eat Hormel Foods Spam at
all? My understanding is that Spam is just a way of selling the fat and scraps
that are left after processing other kinds of meat products. That's how spam
email got its name; spam email is the least desirable kind of email; Spam meat
is the least desirable kind of meat. Whoever named unwanted email "spam" was a
communication genius; he gained instant comprehension.
Hormel Foods might want to think again about involving hundreds of
thousands of logically minded people in thinking about their trademark and
products. Any company that sells a product like Spam should want to avoid
being featured on Slashdot.
Anyhow, it is too late. The word spam is far more associated now with unwanted email than it is with a meat byproduct. Hormel should have protested more strongly 10 years ago.
That's NOT a stupid question! The hidden suggestion in the work is that we know a lot more about the brain than we really do, and that having brain scans will tell us enough to make a big difference. The scans are valuable, but we are at the beginning of understanding the brain.
Those who think that a scan of the brain will tell us much about the operation can do a thought experiment: Have your computer scanned, and try to see from the photos which programs were running, and how those programs operate.
"Stablity in the Middle East means stable oil prices, which means a stable economy.
The result of the Iraq invasion? We don't have stability in Iraq, there are more people against us than ever before, and the price of oil is higher than ever before.
'What if..."the thing that comes in the latest" is a warning of
gaping security hole in your browser?'
For Bill Gates, it makes sense to have huge security vulnerabilities.
Most people who have a huge amount of spyware and viruses notice that their
computer is slow and buy another computer, thus making more money for Gates,
because he then sells another copy of Windows. So, for Gates, there is hidden
logic in selling the most vulnerable commonly used program in history,
Internet Explorer. This vicious, hostile trick only works if most people are
ignorant about what is causing their computer to be slow.
Your sig is interesting. Another seemingly wildly illogical issue:
On 9/11, 15 of the 18 attackers were Saudis. However, the U.S. invaded
Iraq.
When Saudis attack, invade Iraq? Actually, that's not illogical, it is
just that the logic is hidden. People in the U.S. now get some of the profit
from Iraqi oil. Before they didn't.
For a president who comes from an oil family and a vice-president who
worked for an oil company, it makes sense to use the attack by Saudis, angry
at U.S. government influence on their country, to justify an attack on an
oil-rich country.
This only works, of course, if most citizens in the U.S. are unaware
of the largely secret U.S. government meddling, for private profit, in the
affairs of other countries.
The kind of person who, 10 years from now, when he gets his amazing new 200,000 GHz 512 bit processor with a terabyte of RAM, will say, "How do I overclock it?"
But, what happens when my VOIP phone with a New York number is plugged into the broadband router of an internet cafe in Bangladesh, and I dial 911? There are many cases where 911 info is wildly incorrect.
For once I would like to see a balanced news story, that shows both sides, like the cost of 911 service, and the technical impossibility for VOIP providers. If I plug my SIP device into a broadband router in a foreign country, will 911 respond? No. Therefore, why should I pay?
I suggest that Slashdot readers not comment on stories in which they have very little interest. I also suggest that readers should not assume that Slashdot stories are ignorant, and supply an easy answer.
The Slashdot story author wants to find a company who will handle the collection of money and do the downloads. It is not easy to find such a company who will handle multiple currencies without error. For example, I have had considerable troubles with Digital River.
Writing is a VERY difficult mental challenge, and a different type of mental challenge than programmers face. It is rare that a person can do both well, and is willing to do both well.
Because, if you listen to that kind of thing, a man would never have used that language. A man would not use that language, because other men just don't care about those particular issues. For example, read Linux Torvald's book. He was bragging about the same things that Maureen O'Gara is using for criticism.
If you buy something from TigerDirect online, you will be asked, in the very last field of the last window, for the last four digits of your social security number. At that point, you either have to abandon the results of your shopping efforts, or provide private information that could be used for identity theft.
Orders can be canceled only by calling TigerDirect, and they are reluctant to cancel.
That is my experience. I ordered something from the company, but then decided to cancel, because the length of the warranty was very unclear. I finally decided that the company does not seem reputable enough for me to feel comfortable buying from them.
Everything in the article is entirely irrelevant. The article appears to be a good example of the hostility women aim at each other when they are jealous. Pamela Jones of GrokLaw is a far more well-known writer than Maureen O'Gara.
Certainly the article should not have been published.
I think you didn't read the grandparent comment: "I feel sorry for the people who have do the hiring, and those who will be hired to do it. First, having to decide if someone is really that ugly, and, being told that you are ugly enough to do it."
Maybe it will work as you say. But that was not the point of my comment. The point was that I can think of many directions the company's idea can take that will be bad for the company.
For example, maybe people will walk by the booth to see the company's idea of ugly, and then be embarrassed to talk with anyone in the booth.
The point is not whether the company will become better known. The point is whether people will be motivated to buy. Another point is whether there will be any major problems with the marketing. For example, will people call the company and ask the receptionist if she is ugly?
Some people don't think about what happens beneath the social surface.
Slashdot Mirror
"No one seems to care about the life savings of folks in the American middle class. Certainly, the cowboy running this country does not care."
More about U.S. government corruption: Unprecedented Corruption: A guide to conflict of interest in the U.S. government.
The U.S. government is being sold to the highest bidder.
There are some companies that make hot dogs that are actually of high quality, and not just an attempt to get rid of meat scraps by grinding them.
But no, I usually don't eat hot dogs.
"That's just over 2/3rd fat."
That's exactly what I said.
I think fat has water content, too, so the other calculations are not correct. Anyhow, what matters is the calories.
According to a SPAM facts web page, SPAM is mostly fat:
"Nutrition Information For SPAM (original style):
* Calories Per Serving: 170
* Calories Per Serving From Fat: 140"
LOL. Mod parent up!
I think that in this case, "pretty well established" is probably a correct term, but I also think it is a mistake.
The question is not why unwanted email was originally named "spam". The question is why the term was immediately adopted and enthusiastically used by so many people.
The people who named it "spam" and the people who adopted the term so easily and with such popularity were probably older people, not teenagers or people in their early twenties. I say that because I believe the formula for Hormel Foods SPAM has changed. I tried SPAM in the 50's. Even as a child I was disgusted by the fat in SPAM then. So, when I first heard the word "spam" associated with unwanted email, I completely understood and agreed wtih the reference.
If unwanted email had been named "foot stomp", I might have recognized the reference to the Monty Python TV show, but I would not have adopted the term myself.
I remember trying a bite of Hormel Foods SPAM several years ago, and I was surprised that it was not disgusting. That's why I think that the formula was changed.
Someone, please look on a can of Hormel Foods SPAM and post a comment with the total calories per serving and the number of fat calories per serviing.
Funny official statement from Hormel Foods : Let's face it. Today's teens and young adults are more computer savvy than ever, and the next generations will be even more so. Children will be exposed to the slang term "spam" to describe UCE well before being exposed to our famous product SPAM. Ultimately, we are trying to avoid the day when the consuming public asks, "Why would Hormel Foods name its product after junk e-mail?"
Funny observation from a link in a comment below:
"Does Spam taste corpsy? Of course it tastes corpsy -- it's meat. We're just arguing about the identity of the deceased."
Also: "... the name Spam is derived from the words "spicy ham,
It seems to me that islanders liked Hormel SPAM because it was the cheapest form of meat product and because they accepted high fat food because they ate coconut.
Good question, but a disgusting one. Anyone ever eat Hormel Foods Spam at all? My understanding is that Spam is just a way of selling the fat and scraps that are left after processing other kinds of meat products. That's how spam email got its name; spam email is the least desirable kind of email; Spam meat is the least desirable kind of meat. Whoever named unwanted email "spam" was a communication genius; he gained instant comprehension.
Hormel Foods might want to think again about involving hundreds of thousands of logically minded people in thinking about their trademark and products. Any company that sells a product like Spam should want to avoid being featured on Slashdot.
Anyhow, it is too late. The word spam is far more associated now with unwanted email than it is with a meat byproduct. Hormel should have protested more strongly 10 years ago.
That's NOT a stupid question! The hidden suggestion in the work is that we know a lot more about the brain than we really do, and that having brain scans will tell us enough to make a big difference. The scans are valuable, but we are at the beginning of understanding the brain.
Those who think that a scan of the brain will tell us much about the operation can do a thought experiment: Have your computer scanned, and try to see from the photos which programs were running, and how those programs operate.
"Stablity in the Middle East means stable oil prices, which means a stable economy.
The result of the Iraq invasion? We don't have stability in Iraq, there are more people against us than ever before, and the price of oil is higher than ever before.
Interesting. Mod parent up.
Sometimes, a knowledgeable person takes the time to educate all of us.
Care to read 35 other books that say the same thing? Here's a review of them, and 3 movies: Unprecedented Corruption: A guide to conflict of interest in the U.S. government.
'What if
For Bill Gates, it makes sense to have huge security vulnerabilities. Most people who have a huge amount of spyware and viruses notice that their computer is slow and buy another computer, thus making more money for Gates, because he then sells another copy of Windows. So, for Gates, there is hidden logic in selling the most vulnerable commonly used program in history, Internet Explorer. This vicious, hostile trick only works if most people are ignorant about what is causing their computer to be slow.
Your sig is interesting. Another seemingly wildly illogical issue:
On 9/11, 15 of the 18 attackers were Saudis. However, the U.S. invaded Iraq.
When Saudis attack, invade Iraq? Actually, that's not illogical, it is just that the logic is hidden. People in the U.S. now get some of the profit from Iraqi oil. Before they didn't.
For a president who comes from an oil family and a vice-president who worked for an oil company, it makes sense to use the attack by Saudis, angry at U.S. government influence on their country, to justify an attack on an oil-rich country.
This only works, of course, if most citizens in the U.S. are unaware of the largely secret U.S. government meddling, for private profit, in the affairs of other countries.
LOL.
The kind of person who, 10 years from now, when he gets his amazing new 200,000 GHz 512 bit processor with a terabyte of RAM, will say, "How do I overclock it?"
But, what happens when my VOIP phone with a New York number is plugged into the broadband router of an internet cafe in Bangladesh, and I dial 911? There are many cases where 911 info is wildly incorrect.
--
Store Wars: Spread the Seeds of the Organic Rebellion.
For once I would like to see a balanced news story, that shows both sides, like the cost of 911 service, and the technical impossibility for VOIP providers. If I plug my SIP device into a broadband router in a foreign country, will 911 respond? No. Therefore, why should I pay?
--
Spread the Seeds of the Organic Rebellion.
In the weird Alice-in-Wonderland AOL/Netscape world, a browser is defined as anything they want it to be. "Words mean only what I say they mean."
Install the new version of Netscape, and get the security vulnerabilities of a media player and AIM client, too.
MOD PARENT UP!! Interesting.
I suggest that Slashdot readers not comment on stories in which they have very little interest. I also suggest that readers should not assume that Slashdot stories are ignorant, and supply an easy answer.
The Slashdot story author wants to find a company who will handle the collection of money and do the downloads. It is not easy to find such a company who will handle multiple currencies without error. For example, I have had considerable troubles with Digital River.
Writing is a VERY difficult mental challenge, and a different type of mental challenge than programmers face. It is rare that a person can do both well, and is willing to do both well.
Because, if you listen to that kind of thing, a man would never have used that language. A man would not use that language, because other men just don't care about those particular issues. For example, read Linux Torvald's book. He was bragging about the same things that Maureen O'Gara is using for criticism.
They gave some other reason for asking, which I don't remember. I certainly did not apply for credit. It would have been a very large order.
If you buy something from TigerDirect online, you will be asked, in the very last field of the last window, for the last four digits of your social security number. At that point, you either have to abandon the results of your shopping efforts, or provide private information that could be used for identity theft.
Orders can be canceled only by calling TigerDirect, and they are reluctant to cancel.
That is my experience. I ordered something from the company, but then decided to cancel, because the length of the warranty was very unclear. I finally decided that the company does not seem reputable enough for me to feel comfortable buying from them.
This is the offending article: Exclusive: Who Is 'PJ' Pamela Jones of Groklaw.Net? [Google Cache]
Everything in the article is entirely irrelevant. The article appears to be a good example of the hostility women aim at each other when they are jealous. Pamela Jones of GrokLaw is a far more well-known writer than Maureen O'Gara.
Certainly the article should not have been published.
I think you didn't read the grandparent comment: "I feel sorry for the people who have do the hiring, and those who will be hired to do it. First, having to decide if someone is really that ugly, and, being told that you are ugly enough to do it."
Maybe it will work as you say. But that was not the point of my comment. The point was that I can think of many directions the company's idea can take that will be bad for the company.
For example, maybe people will walk by the booth to see the company's idea of ugly, and then be embarrassed to talk with anyone in the booth.
The point is not whether the company will become better known. The point is whether people will be motivated to buy. Another point is whether there will be any major problems with the marketing. For example, will people call the company and ask the receptionist if she is ugly?
Some people don't think about what happens beneath the social surface.