They don't have a license plate so they have to stop every silver Honda Civic driven by a white guy that comes by until they, hopefully, find the right one.
That's thousands of cars - no judge in their right mind would allow that.
Depends on what the warrant covers in terms of search area. It would probably cover the whole house, so you'd be screwed (use the back yard for bodies). Whole pipe searches are really broad, so I'd argue that they shouldn't be able to use any side evidence, as the warrant is otherwise unlimited.
I mean GP has made completely unfounded and inflexible statements about the importance of his liberty without acknowledging that by agreeing to be governed he has significantly diminished this "freedom."
Well of course he's inflexible - he's already been denied a lot of his rights, so why would he compromise further? Come back when the US AG isn't trying to kill Habeaus corpus.
I wonder how many of you people who scorn criminals would hold your ground if the tables were turned? Would you serve 10 years to keep your conscience clean?
What the hell does that even mean?
Feel sorry for them if anything. It's the Christian thing to do.[sic]
Too bad there aren't many Christians in this country.
If you're doing something wrong, and they happen to catch you because they were looking for someone else -- then you shouldn't have been doing whatever it was you were doing.
If I'm doing something wrong and they catch me with one of these broad warrants, then too bad. We have rules against open ended warrants for a reason - if you can't limit what you're searching, then you had damn well better limit what can be done with what you find.
What this means is that there are circumstances when ISPs cannot isolate IP addys or individuals, then it's ok to sniff the whole pipe. Why not? Why should the cops have to pussyfoot around BS red tape just to do their jobs?
Because the FBI abused the hell out of this in the 50s, to the extent taht they had to wait for Hoover to die, and the British did even worse things in the 18th century. Watch for cases where they are 'unable to isolate an individual' to increase.
then we have to apply a sober and proportionate response to that kind of human rights abuse.
Proportionate in this case would be a rubber hose, right?
When I asked Mr. Huk why he looked at me like I was an idiot and said because there wasn't a Korean version. A 'fact' that must come as a huge surprise to Microsoft Korea!
I've heard this before. Perhaps it's part of the whole 'everyone hates us' mentality...
they do have access to them in schools, and some businesses make use of them as well.
I'm having trouble envisioning that 50's era stalinist craphole having business either. I'm seeing one third of people that are doing ok, one third in abject poverty, one third worse off than that, a million guys in the army, and one short fat dude running the whole thing.
I happen to agree with what Go Daddy did regardless of whether the information was already compromised or not. I'd be upset if someone got hold of my Slashdot password let alone the one to my blog or email.
Wow, you're willing to go vigilante over a slashdot password. I hope you never have kids.
As we have said to our customers - Go Daddy is committed to keeping the Internet a safe place. If there is material online that is jeopardizing Internet safety, we will take necessary action. I
That's not your damn job! You are a registrar. If you take it upon yourself to police the contents of the sites in your registry, what happens when you get sud for failing to do so? Go do your job and stop trying to police things that are none of your business.
When the company is screwing you, why not retaliate with a lawyer? Personally, I'd just go get my old job back - no reason to work for people like that.
You are such a pushover, it's ridiculous. If you want to let people screw you over, then that's your business, but don't rationalize it by saying that my attitude is out of whack.
If you study the boom of the computing/information industry over the last fifteen years on a global level it will be quite clear that it is an artificial phenomenon created by a mixture of politicians and investors who saw a very ripe opportunity to promote an industry that the majority of the population knew/knows little or nothing about.
And it has nothing to do with the massive value add that a proper IT department can give, right?
Without the billions of dollars pushed in advertising to keep the ailing tech sector afloat in the stock markets most professionals in that field would be prized by their employers only a little more than the homeless folks who collect recyclables to put together beer money.
What billions? The problem right now is that IT is the redheaded stepchild of most places, viewed as a cost center, while the fact that stocktraders and accountants can get their data is ignored. Until it stops working.
lacing so much trust in an industry which, should the right contracts go wrong or the wrong cable catch a case of mildew decay, will quickly reveal itself as much more frivolous, and expendable, than most CS/CO/code monkey graduates care to admit.
A moldy cable downing the network is usually a symptom of underfunding the IT department. But if you think it's expendable, go ahead and expend it. See how long you last.
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How much water in a hose?
Hey, person B, check out this cool new software download site
Hey, Person C, check out this cool new site listing credit cards
Hey, Your Honor, check out this clear cut case of entrapment.
They don't have a license plate so they have to stop every silver Honda Civic driven by a white guy that comes by until they, hopefully, find the right one.
That's thousands of cars - no judge in their right mind would allow that.
Fruit of the poisoned tree - wouldn't it suck to find all those bodies and then have them tossed as evidence because you exceeded your warrant?
downloading what, exactly? You can't charge someone with a felony for downloading MP3s, which is what I assume you mean.
Depends on what the warrant covers in terms of search area. It would probably cover the whole house, so you'd be screwed (use the back yard for bodies). Whole pipe searches are really broad, so I'd argue that they shouldn't be able to use any side evidence, as the warrant is otherwise unlimited.
I mean GP has made completely unfounded and inflexible statements about the importance of his liberty without acknowledging that by agreeing to be governed he has significantly diminished this "freedom."
Well of course he's inflexible - he's already been denied a lot of his rights, so why would he compromise further? Come back when the US AG isn't trying to kill Habeaus corpus.
I wonder how many of you people who scorn criminals would hold your ground if the tables were turned? Would you serve 10 years to keep your conscience clean?
What the hell does that even mean?
Feel sorry for them if anything. It's the Christian thing to do.[sic]
Too bad there aren't many Christians in this country.
If you're doing something wrong, and they happen to catch you because they were looking for someone else -- then you shouldn't have been doing whatever it was you were doing.
If I'm doing something wrong and they catch me with one of these broad warrants, then too bad. We have rules against open ended warrants for a reason - if you can't limit what you're searching, then you had damn well better limit what can be done with what you find.
What this means is that there are circumstances when ISPs cannot isolate IP addys or individuals, then it's ok to sniff the whole pipe. Why not? Why should the cops have to pussyfoot around BS red tape just to do their jobs?
Because the FBI abused the hell out of this in the 50s, to the extent taht they had to wait for Hoover to die, and the British did even worse things in the 18th century. Watch for cases where they are 'unable to isolate an individual' to increase.
then we have to apply a sober and proportionate response to that kind of human rights abuse.
Proportionate in this case would be a rubber hose, right?
gunbroker solved this with the 15 minute rule - any bid within 15 minutes of an auction close extends the auction to 15 minutes in the future.
When I asked Mr. Huk why he looked at me like I was an idiot and said because there wasn't a Korean version. A 'fact' that must come as a huge surprise to Microsoft Korea!
I've heard this before. Perhaps it's part of the whole 'everyone hates us' mentality...
Sure is - nobody's using it!
they do have access to them in schools, and some businesses make use of them as well.
I'm having trouble envisioning that 50's era stalinist craphole having business either. I'm seeing one third of people that are doing ok, one third in abject poverty, one third worse off than that, a million guys in the army, and one short fat dude running the whole thing.
I happen to agree with what Go Daddy did regardless of whether the information was already compromised or not. I'd be upset if someone got hold of my Slashdot password let alone the one to my blog or email.
Wow, you're willing to go vigilante over a slashdot password. I hope you never have kids.
North Korea uses windows too. Mainly unlicensed copies of Windows 98.
That would imply they have computers.
Hey, they paid for the software in the first place. It makes sense to mandate it be open sourced, as that would avoid this very problem.
When you have a pathologically conformist culture, yeah you can generalize a lot.
Are you one of those whackjobs that claims the relevant ammenement is invalid because not all the states ratified identical texts?
Killing ten people is as bad as killing a million.
What about cutting them off in traffic? Is that as bad as killing them? That's what this is.
As we have said to our customers - Go Daddy is committed to keeping the Internet a safe place. If there is material online that is jeopardizing Internet safety, we will take necessary action. I
That's not your damn job! You are a registrar. If you take it upon yourself to police the contents of the sites in your registry, what happens when you get sud for failing to do so? Go do your job and stop trying to police things that are none of your business.
When the company is screwing you, why not retaliate with a lawyer? Personally, I'd just go get my old job back - no reason to work for people like that.
HR: But there's nothing to say we still have to give you the job.
Employee: sure there is - you're legally liable for my losses. Anyway, since when do you make the hiring decisions?
You are such a pushover, it's ridiculous. If you want to let people screw you over, then that's your business, but don't rationalize it by saying that my attitude is out of whack.
If you study the boom of the computing/information industry over the last fifteen years on a global level it will be quite clear that it is an artificial phenomenon created by a mixture of politicians and investors who saw a very ripe opportunity to promote an industry that the majority of the population knew/knows little or nothing about.
And it has nothing to do with the massive value add that a proper IT department can give, right?
Without the billions of dollars pushed in advertising to keep the ailing tech sector afloat in the stock markets most professionals in that field would be prized by their employers only a little more than the homeless folks who collect recyclables to put together beer money.
What billions? The problem right now is that IT is the redheaded stepchild of most places, viewed as a cost center, while the fact that stocktraders and accountants can get their data is ignored. Until it stops working.
lacing so much trust in an industry which, should the right contracts go wrong or the wrong cable catch a case of mildew decay, will quickly reveal itself as much more frivolous, and expendable, than most CS/CO/code monkey graduates care to admit.
A moldy cable downing the network is usually a symptom of underfunding the IT department. But if you think it's expendable, go ahead and expend it. See how long you last.
CEO's come from a company's profit centers- sales and marketing.
So why not the other profit centers, like Engineering?