Unforunately, I was unable to find the other thread I mentioned in the post. Maybe a subscriber can find it in my post history?
I forget if I was the one who originally brought it up or not, but the idea of Google using Jabber for IM, and its benefits, was definitely brought up on slashdot first.
I haven't watched any of the Olympics yet this year and I don't plan to watch either. I'm glad I haven't been supporting them, this is getting ridiculous.
Unfortunately I'll have to watch hockey in the next winter Olympics:/
I think people should be forced to take classes or seminars before using the Internet, teaching them how *not* to be fooled to install adware and spyware. They should also be told not to use Internet Explorer.
Of course, with this seminar, everyone would get a free software CD with Claria included.
No, they wouldn't be that low, it would be plain lying. Clearly they just added more extraneous 0's after the decimal place and a few more to pad the front.
I don't know about that. I know I'm going to avoid Penguin books from now on. If everyone else here and everyone who has heard of this incident does likewise it will help offset any profit incurred by the free publicity.
"A Girl's Life Online" will probably be a short term profit for Penguin, us remembering that "Penguin are a bunch of assholes" for the rest of our life will be a long-term dent.
Yep, that's been noted several times already (see my post history). They haven't been "censored" however, since the reviews weren't about the book, they were about the publisher and author which is why they were removed.
However, I still think the ratings bomb had a big effect on the publishers. They were down to 2 stars or less for a while and all the positive reviews still say "5 out of 287" people found this review helpful.
Yep, something like that. Here's the post I posted yesterday in the original discussion. It was never modded so it's likely nobody read it:
Amazon.com seems to be deleting a lot of the reviews. At one point there were 215 reviews and now it's down to 140 (and still declining).
People, when you write your reviews try to make them sound intelligent if you don't want them to be deleted. At least I *hope* they're only deleting the "this book sucks and Penguin are greedy bastard"-type reviews. Try to shed a little light on the situation (even if it has already been done in other reviews.)
And then my reply to myself a few minutes later:
Eek.. 95 by the time I was done writing that post...
That's a pretty good bet considering there's now only 81 reviews and the book is rated at 3.5 stars. Of course this happened almost 3hrs before you even posted.. re-fucking-diculous.
Amazon.com seems to be deleting a lot of the reviews. At one point there were 215 reviews and now it's down to 140 (and still declining).
People, when you write your reviews try to make them sound intelligent if you don't want them to be deleted. At least I *hope* they're only deleting the "this book sucks and Penguin are greedy bastard"-type reviews. Try to shed a little light on the situation (even if it has already been done in other reviews.)
No, they shouldn't have *made* the movie. Bourne again would've actually been a better name for the movie because the plot in the movie was nothing like the books (even key characters were somewhat different). I would say "same characters, different story" but even the characters are different.
Well, first off I'm going to be a computer scientist and not an electrical engineer:) I guess you're right that IEC is quite standard when it comes to computer standards. I guess I was waiting for ISO or IEEE to publish it as a standard.
If you know of a standard that defines kilo as 2^10, please cite.:-)
Well, there probably isn't one (I'm not gonna bother looking for it, anyway). While it isn't a standard it has been a tradition for a long time, starting at 1024b = 1kb. Seemed like a good idea at the time I guess:)
None of which, of course, changes the fact that Joe User uses "megabyte" all the time to refer to 1,048,576 bytes, but since hard disk makers have already switched to calling 10^9 bytes a terabyte. I don't see how using the base-2 prefixes can increase the anger and frustration.
I think harddisk manufacturers are going to be what ultimately switches everybody over to using kilo=1000, kibi=1024. I wonder if RAM manufacturers will ever do the same or start advertising in mibi/gibibytes? Using the base-2 prefixes won't increase frustration, it's the transition period that will. During the transition period (now?), whenever we see "kilobyte" we don't know if it means 1000b or 1024b
And lets not even talk about floppy disks, where 1.44M = 2^10 * 10^3 bytes...
The standard prefixes kilo, mega, giga, tera, etc. mean the exact same thing when applied to ANY measure. That's the entire point of a standard, and the standard says 10^3, 10^6, 10^9, and 10^12, respectively.
Well, they're actually SI prefixes and can't really be applied to any unit of measurement.
The standard prefixes kibi, mebi, gibi, tebi, etc. mean the exact same thing when applied to ANY measure. That's the entire point of a standard, and the standard says 2^10, 2^20, 2^30, and 2^40, respectively.
It's a IEC standard, but not a universal standard. If you're an electrical engineer then you might have reason to use them, it's likely to confuse most other people (not that the situation isn't already confusing).
To be clear - the value of the SI prefixes do NOT change, no matter what you happen to be measuring. Thats the entire point of the SI system, for crying out loud!
That's right, whenever you apply them to *SI units*. Bytes are *NOT* SI units and kilo, mega, giga, etc are *NOT* SI prefixes when used to measure kilobytes, etc. Sure, they share the same names (the source of all the confusion), but they are not SI units and do not follow SI prefix rules.
By the way, I actually wouldn't mind kibi/mibi/etc prefixes myself but it would've been a lot nicer if they thought of that *before* using the same prefixes as SI. I think eventually the new naming will takeover, but saying that the current system is bizarre, contradictory and outdated is simply incorrect. However, to say it is confusing hits the nail on the head.
While I can't say for sure I think it's very likely that Froogles play on frugal is similar to Google's play on googul.
It looks like what happened here is that this guy got the idea for Froogles before Google got the idea for Froogle (apparently--I haven't looked up the trademarks).
IMO, I think it's fair for Froogles to do a play on Google+frugal, but then I also thought it was fair for Lindows to do a play on Windows+Linux.
Hmm, that's interesting and I think I'm starting to understand what the Americans are talking about. However, I think 'aboot' is a gross overexaggeration that isn't even accurate.
If I understand correctly, Americans pronounce both vowels in 'about' (ow-u) where as Canadians pronounce the vowels as one sound (ow). Similar to Detroit (de-troyt or de-troy-it)
Also, it may be possible that Americans have a slight accent on 'boot' making it sound more like 'bout', which, to them, would make it sound like we were saying aboot.
I wonder if the same thing exists in words like house, doubt, etc.
What're you doing? You're probably the only one with a subscription to the Chicago Tribune. You could've just pasted the Windows part and had everybody convinced.
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Google using Jabber for IM has already been discussed on some slashdot (in comments): http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=112190&cid=952 4999
Unforunately, I was unable to find the other thread I mentioned in the post. Maybe a subscriber can find it in my post history?
I forget if I was the one who originally brought it up or not, but the idea of Google using Jabber for IM, and its benefits, was definitely brought up on slashdot first.
I haven't watched any of the Olympics yet this year and I don't plan to watch either. I'm glad I haven't been supporting them, this is getting ridiculous.
Unfortunately I'll have to watch hockey in the next winter Olympics :/
.. is apparently a good way to make cash.
I think people should be forced to take classes or seminars before using the Internet, teaching them how *not* to be fooled to install adware and spyware. They should also be told not to use Internet Explorer.
Of course, with this seminar, everyone would get a free software CD with Claria included.
SO DOES UPPERCASE IF YOU USE CAPS LOCK.
Of course you'll have a tough time making it past the lamness filter..
Yes, but so does $001.000
No, they wouldn't be that low, it would be plain lying. Clearly they just added more extraneous 0's after the decimal place and a few more to pad the front.
Why use smart glass when you can use bricks that are.. well.. as dumb as bricks.
Nice analysis. That's about what I was thinking while reading it. Until Penguin fesses up (unlikely to ever happen), they're on my shitlist.
I think the reasons for that are obvious.
It's so we can slashdot them.
I don't know about that. I know I'm going to avoid Penguin books from now on. If everyone else here and everyone who has heard of this incident does likewise it will help offset any profit incurred by the free publicity.
"A Girl's Life Online" will probably be a short term profit for Penguin, us remembering that "Penguin are a bunch of assholes" for the rest of our life will be a long-term dent.
Yep, that's been noted several times already (see my post history). They haven't been "censored" however, since the reviews weren't about the book, they were about the publisher and author which is why they were removed.
However, I still think the ratings bomb had a big effect on the publishers. They were down to 2 stars or less for a while and all the positive reviews still say "5 out of 287" people found this review helpful.
Yep, something like that. Here's the post I posted yesterday in the original discussion. It was never modded so it's likely nobody read it:
And then my reply to myself a few minutes later:
That's a pretty good bet considering there's now only 81 reviews and the book is rated at 3.5 stars. Of course this happened almost 3hrs before you even posted.. re-fucking-diculous.
Eek.. 95 by the time I was done writing that post...
Well.. you see where this is going.
Amazon.com seems to be deleting a lot of the reviews. At one point there were 215 reviews and now it's down to 140 (and still declining).
People, when you write your reviews try to make them sound intelligent if you don't want them to be deleted. At least I *hope* they're only deleting the "this book sucks and Penguin are greedy bastard"-type reviews. Try to shed a little light on the situation (even if it has already been done in other reviews.)
No, they shouldn't have *made* the movie. Bourne again would've actually been a better name for the movie because the plot in the movie was nothing like the books (even key characters were somewhat different). I would say "same characters, different story" but even the characters are different.
3. Guantanamo Bay!
Well, first off I'm going to be a computer scientist and not an electrical engineer :) I guess you're right that IEC is quite standard when it comes to computer standards. I guess I was waiting for ISO or IEEE to publish it as a standard.
Well, there probably isn't one (I'm not gonna bother looking for it, anyway). While it isn't a standard it has been a tradition for a long time, starting at 1024b = 1kb. Seemed like a good idea at the time I guess :)
I think harddisk manufacturers are going to be what ultimately switches everybody over to using kilo=1000, kibi=1024. I wonder if RAM manufacturers will ever do the same or start advertising in mibi/gibibytes? Using the base-2 prefixes won't increase frustration, it's the transition period that will. During the transition period (now?), whenever we see "kilobyte" we don't know if it means 1000b or 1024b
Yes. Let's not talk about that :)
Well, they're actually SI prefixes and can't really be applied to any unit of measurement.
It's a IEC standard, but not a universal standard. If you're an electrical engineer then you might have reason to use them, it's likely to confuse most other people (not that the situation isn't already confusing).
That's right, whenever you apply them to *SI units*. Bytes are *NOT* SI units and kilo, mega, giga, etc are *NOT* SI prefixes when used to measure kilobytes, etc. Sure, they share the same names (the source of all the confusion), but they are not SI units and do not follow SI prefix rules.
By the way, I actually wouldn't mind kibi/mibi/etc prefixes myself but it would've been a lot nicer if they thought of that *before* using the same prefixes as SI. I think eventually the new naming will takeover, but saying that the current system is bizarre, contradictory and outdated is simply incorrect. However, to say it is confusing hits the nail on the head.
While I can't say for sure I think it's very likely that Froogles play on frugal is similar to Google's play on googul.
It looks like what happened here is that this guy got the idea for Froogles before Google got the idea for Froogle (apparently--I haven't looked up the trademarks).
IMO, I think it's fair for Froogles to do a play on Google+frugal, but then I also thought it was fair for Lindows to do a play on Windows+Linux.
Hmm, that's interesting and I think I'm starting to understand what the Americans are talking about. However, I think 'aboot' is a gross overexaggeration that isn't even accurate.
If I understand correctly, Americans pronounce both vowels in 'about' (ow-u) where as Canadians pronounce the vowels as one sound (ow). Similar to Detroit (de-troyt or de-troy-it)
Also, it may be possible that Americans have a slight accent on 'boot' making it sound more like 'bout', which, to them, would make it sound like we were saying aboot.
I wonder if the same thing exists in words like house, doubt, etc.
Jeeze, and we've been giving SCO such a hard time all along.
It looks like each and every one of us owes SCO a really big apology. I'm writing mine up now.
What're you doing? You're probably the only one with a subscription to the Chicago Tribune. You could've just pasted the Windows part and had everybody convinced.
Just don't click said button if your installation is over two weeks old.
Well, now it's legal :) See, everybody benefits.