before they forwarded this idea? A liter each I suspect... at least.
Of course, it's a repeat of an experiment done in Soviet times. Except then it was with a politically unpopular cosmonaut inside. Well, it's one way to get data on how long an unteathered space walker lasts.
"That's the last time you tell the Brezhnev eyebrow joke, Misha". Pakah tovarish. (Ciao comrade)
From the article:
"SuitSat is a Russian brainstorm," explains Frank Bauer of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center. "Some of our Russian partners in the ISS program, mainly a group led by Sergey Samburov, had an idea: Maybe we can turn old spacesuits into useful satellites."
The automatic stuff in system config did not work properly. Ultimately I was able to get a driver loaded and print. I have an older MB on my machine and parralel printing. Anyway, it is no big deal. Just a bit of a hair puller. Glad your experience was more standard. Most have no problems. Just downloaded the Kubuntu iso as it turns out. Will overwrite current system. Trying to find a distro that likes my setup. If it works better I'll repost. Could be a while. Cheers, B
I was frustrated with earlier versions as well, although was able to use them more than you, but not in my work.. 8 yes. David Pogue of the New York Times has used Dragon in many versions for all his work due to carpel tunnel. He raved about Dragon 8 so I gave it a try. It really worked a lot better out of the box than any of the others. I tried to find that review for you, but was unable to do so. Here is an article he wrote that discusses Dragon 5 in context, which he likes better than Via Voice. But 8 was a watershed. http://www.abilities.com/news-articles.html
It sounds like you were willing to put in the time to get the good of this program. I don't know if they sell an evaluation copy. You might find a boxed used version of DS8 on Ebay since so many do not have the patience you showed to use speech to text. On the other hand IBM has been in this game for decades. Dragon beat them for a while (in my opinion) but this new sofware seems pretty unique. You might want to hold out for that. In any case this tech is maturing. There is hope.
Well, Dragon Systems eight passed the beach test first try. Knowing the program, however, I did use pretty clear diction.
I use Dragon Systems and find it absolutely great. There are a few persistent errors. For example, It frequently fails to get "there" and " there" right on the first try. But the fly down menu system enables me to quickly correct the problem on the run. Certainly I pick it up on an edit. If IBM has something better than this -- and it sounds like they do -- then it must be pretty darn good. Of course, you have to insert the punctuation verbally. But that comes with a little practice -- provided that you know what to do in the first place.
It does take a little bit of investment in time. But not nearly as much as learning to type at seventy words a minute, which I can now do in dictation. I have added very little by way of customized commands etc. The program has done a lot of learning on its own.
Let's try once again: I can't recognize beach. I can recognize speech. Oops. Okay, it failed that time. Let's try one more time: I can wreck a nice beach. I can recognize speech. Well, the phrases have to be enunciated pretty clearly or the program has trouble.
Which which blew the blue candle. Failed on the second "which" the b*tch.
Okay, okay. I'll put the laundry in the dryer. No I am not just screwing around on Slashdot again I'm getting some work done down here. Just a minute. Just a MINUTE.
One trouble. You do have to put the mike to sleep during family discussions.
This has been said already, but it is really worth highlighting at this point. This discussion has shown clearly that Diebold's claim is flimsy on technical and legal grounds. This play really does not make much sense unless these data reveal some deeper flaw (or worse) in the method. The whole thing is odd. Stinks actually. Usually the state owns data they pay for. "Rights in Data" is a standard boilerplate clause in most RFPs. Perhaps this data threatens the interests of those who won the elections. People are buying time.
The whole thing makes me quite sad. I love technology, but deterministic systems are vulnerable to manipulation. A robust audit trail, with a proper chain of custody (as was pointed out) is crucial to decreasing the vulnerability.
But in the end the voting method is part of the social contract. And no contract is worth the paper it is printed on if both parties do not intend to honor it. IF there is a strong will to steal an election it will be done. I have worked as an election observer in some former Soviet republics. If you want to know how to stuff a ballot box I can tell you because I have seen it. You don't need an MS Access data base.
This has been said already, but it is really worth highlighting. A lot of this discussion has shown that Diebold's claim is flimsy on technical and legal grounds. It really does not make much sense unless these data reveal some deeper flaw in the method. Usually the state owns data they pay for. "Rights in Data" is a sandard boilerplate clause. Perhaps this data threatens the interests of those who won the elections. People are buying time.
The whole thing makes me quite sad. I love technology, but deterministic systems are vulnerable to manipulation. A robust audit trail, with a proper chain of custody (as was pointed out) is crucial to decreasing the vulnerability.
But in the end it is a social contract. And no contract is worth the paper it is printed on if both parties do not intend to honor it. IF there is a strong will to steal an election it will be done. I have worked as an election observer in some former Soviet republics. If you want to know hao to stuff a ballot box I can tell you because I have seen it.
808140. Thanks for your considered and well-written reply. Of course you are right. Primacy, recency, subliminal. All that stuff is real. I guess I was thinking of a known brand where the technique would backfire. And you know it worked for X10, those camera people. And would Clear Channel be so big if obnoxious ads did not move product?
I do not suffer from this stuff. I have the right defense tools and I stay off the net's back alleys. I do think people should get educated (perhaps banks could provide incentives to people to secure themselves better when they start to use online banking) but, in the end, there is a sucker born every minute. They are the confidence trickster's meat and potatoes. Always have been. Something like the internet is a perfect hunting ground.
The bad thing is that this sort of thing draws more regulation. People start to welcome in the federal marshall to clean up dodge. This is not a happy solution, but I fear it is well under way. Hope it does not wind up in us needing a "net license" like you need a ham radio license. Just kidding, but it is sad. All this criminality casts a shadow on the rest of us.
Advertising works. (Ask the folks at Absolute). Do you really mind a properly sized static ad? I don't. And sometimes they are of interest. I used Opera with ads when it worked that way...and Eudora. With Opera you could even say what kind of ads you wanted. Fair enough. And Google has really cashed in on getting low-key ads into context.
But sleazoid schemes like this defy all logic. Ads don't work when they are coming at people as an assault. They are killing broadcast radio's appeal as well. Morons!
As I said, what astounds me are the vendors who want to promote this way. Hmmmm. Maybe it works sort of by accident. As desperate people try to kill the popoups they sometimes activate the link by mistake. I guess sometimes they like what they see...
Anyway, I hope the Feds mop the floor with these buttmunchers.
Not a sales pitch. No interest. Just thought Azureus had a lot more stuff to play with to get a good speed than does Bitorrent. Am I wrong? Apologies if I am. Nice to know BT and the others have same port flex feature.
I used Bitorrent and then switched to Azureus. It is a hog, but I have a monster and hardly notice. I am stingy with my resources though. Will check out uTorrent. I like small. Especially if it is running the way these clients run. Outstanding. Nice to learn something.
I like this program. So flexible. Good documentation for all the features as well. You can configure to optimize. Cool graphics of swarms. One nice thing: I chose an unassigned port and forwarded it to Azureus. Did not like to have ten forwarded ports in a known range as with Bitorrent. (Not enough of an expert to know how much this matters, but it seems a bit more secure.) Speeds seem good compared to Bitorrent these days. Noticed also that Azureus was the most common client in the client list, which is why I checked it out. Worked great with Star Trek New Voyages.
http://www.newvoyages.com/ All the Linux DVD distros came down in a few hours. Much slower with some public domain movies I went after (few seeds/peers) but they came together.
So far no bad torrents or spyware. But then I stay out of dark alleys.
The team that contributed to Sciam used (as I recall) H2S to displace some of the the oxygen in the blood before the cooling solution is added and the blood removed. Since low oxygen is far more deadly to the brain than no oxygen. The H2S bound to the receptors and protected the CNS tissues, which self destruct in low oxygen. The whole process was low tech, but grew out of a deeper understanding of why the brain dies as a result of blood loss or stopped heart. They killed and revived a dog. I was stunned when I read the article. Hope I represented the details correctly. Apologize in advance if I scrambled my rehash. Of course since it is Sciam you have to buy it if you want to read it. Buying Time in Suspended Animation; Scientific American June 2005; by Mark B. Roth and Todd Nystu
Q)2001 A Space Odessey Trivia. What was the temperature that the three Scientists HAL let die (killed) were suspended at?
Apple's winning trick is to combine solid hardware with solid software and lock the two together and lock the rest of the world out. The result is great quality control and a smooth end user experience. I would be surprised if they licensed the FairPlay iTunes system. They never licensed their OS. They like a closed loop.
I would like to congratulate Mr. Krafft for homing in on a critical issue; that is, how to maximize and focus the efforts of people working on all of these various distributions, especially the ones that are derived from Debian, to benefit a main project. As an editor I know that 90% of the work in publishing is in achieving the last 5% of perfection. To my mind, the open source movement needs to polish one beautiful gem and give it to the world. Do that and astonishing things will happen. Take Firefox for example. But it appears to my inexperienced eye that a lot of effort is being distributed across a very wide field.
I confess that am new to the Linux world, but an old hand at computing. I successfully installed Gentoo on an old PIII as my first Linux project. I am glad I began with that difficult manual installation as I learned a tremendous amount. I did a lot of stuff with the command line, but wanted to see the GUI. Of course I could have installed a GUI environment under Gentoo, but I was curious to try something new.
The next distribution I tried was Debian. I loved its automatic installation, especially appreciated after my experiences with Fastab, Grub, and the rest. Some irritations with the printing system aside, I was impressed by the stability and completeness and professional look this system displayed under Gnome or KDE. And the galaxy of software available is astonishing. It left me with no doubt that sooner or later open source software will leave the server farm and be the norm on the desktop, at least in some computing environments. It seems to me particularly suited to educational environments, because only open source allows students to legally take apart their tools and see how they work. But I digress.
When I saw how many different distributions there are while doing a bit of research looking for a distribution for another old computer http://distrowatch.com/ I became concerned. Put plainly it seems to me that there are too many chiefs and not enough indians.
Hopefully Mr. Krafft's work can harness all of this creative energy and focus some of it back into some center or other. From my limited experience the Debian distribution seems very well suited as a candidate to champion.
Thank God somebody else finds this to be the case. So I'm not a complete idiot after all. (or at least not the only complete idiot.) Thank you. I got my printer to work but only in some kind of half arsed crippled kind of way. It is an HP and supposed to be fully supported. Feh!
Microsoft is a savage competitor. In a world of sharks Gates & Co has eaten its own young. It has consistently distinguished itself with vicious and not always legal practices here. Remember what they did to Word Perfect? Compaq? (when they dared to ship OS/2 Warp?) Netscape? R.I.P. (Okay, Mozilla is Risen, but you get the point.)
For MS (or any big public Co) this is SOP. Customer is always right. Shareholder value. Yada yada yada. I am not sure how much good this particularly noxious piece of amorality will do though. Most of China's software is pirated. Even the big stuff like CAD etc. (Yes, your cheapo Wal-Mart widget was designed on a pirate CAD. Pretend you didn't know.) If they want to even try to tame this huge market they will have to kiss acres of Chinese butt before they are done. Rotsa ruck Charie.
When the Chinese do start loading legitimate software it will probably be open source. I spent five years in Asia. Asian display a lot of common sense. They will never pay for something they can get for free if it is practically legal to do so. So I think, eventually, when the pressure is on the Chinese to dump their warez most companies will probably Penguinize rather than pay the piper. If they do cut Bill a deal it will be very close to the bone.
I would not expect Congress to do much with China. Trade deficit. T-Bills. Kinda hard to spank your banker.
"That type of patenting must be stopped and all previous such obvious patents reversed."
Really agree with you. This has to stop or it will ruin innovation. Patents and trademarks were developed to launch entrepreneurs, not protect vested interests. The whole system has become elitist and un-American. Benjamin Franklin hated patents. He was an open source type of guy. Never took out a patent on his stove. Wanted it for the public good. (Not that his original worked all that well.) But the lightning rod did. Sure hope the worm is beginning to turn.
I am not against patents in general, but this torrent of garbage patents is just legal landfill.
Svalbard, of which Spitsbergen is an island, is a complicated case politically -- sort of like the Antarctic where signatories to the treaty of Svalbard can have a research or economic presence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard.
Norway's sovereignty is not in question, but it is under constraint. The Russians mine coal there (among other things). Norway has huge oil reserves in the North Sea and wants to move drilling into the Arctic ocean. The Norwegians have a strong interest in developing Svalbard and have a heavy presence in Longyearbyen. There is a developed tourist trade for people like me and my crazy wife who rode snowmobiles six hours to Berentsberg (The Russian Settlement) in a whiteout last Easter. But how many idiots like us can they count on?
Now, put in this context, the seed project makes a lot more sense. It is a good thing to do, of course, but at root there is the matter of "presence" not to mention all that oil and gas up there. And let's not forget those pesky Russians who also have interests.
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before they forwarded this idea? A liter each I suspect... at least.
Of course, it's a repeat of an experiment done in Soviet times. Except then it was with a politically unpopular cosmonaut inside. Well, it's one way to get data on how long an unteathered space walker lasts.
"That's the last time you tell the Brezhnev eyebrow joke, Misha". Pakah tovarish. (Ciao comrade)
From the article:
Root! Root!
Good, boy. Good, boy...
The automatic stuff in system config did not work properly. Ultimately I was able to get a driver loaded and print. I have an older MB on my machine and parralel printing. Anyway, it is no big deal. Just a bit of a hair puller. Glad your experience was more standard. Most have no problems. Just downloaded the Kubuntu iso as it turns out. Will overwrite current system. Trying to find a distro that likes my setup. If it works better I'll repost. Could be a while. Cheers, B
It sounds like you were willing to put in the time to get the good of this program. I don't know if they sell an evaluation copy. You might find a boxed used version of DS8 on Ebay since so many do not have the patience you showed to use speech to text. On the other hand IBM has been in this game for decades. Dragon beat them for a while (in my opinion) but this new sofware seems pretty unique. You might want to hold out for that. In any case this tech is maturing. There is hope.
I concur that it is a hog for resources.
Anyway, QED for D8s shortcomings... and mine. d:-b
I can wreck a nice beach. I can recognize speech.
Well, Dragon Systems eight passed the beach test first try. Knowing the program, however, I did use pretty clear diction.
I use Dragon Systems and find it absolutely great. There are a few persistent errors. For example, It frequently fails to get "there" and " there" right on the first try. But the fly down menu system enables me to quickly correct the problem on the run. Certainly I pick it up on an edit. If IBM has something better than this -- and it sounds like they do -- then it must be pretty darn good. Of course, you have to insert the punctuation verbally. But that comes with a little practice -- provided that you know what to do in the first place.
It does take a little bit of investment in time. But not nearly as much as learning to type at seventy words a minute, which I can now do in dictation. I have added very little by way of customized commands etc. The program has done a lot of learning on its own.
Let's try once again: I can't recognize beach. I can recognize speech. Oops. Okay, it failed that time. Let's try one more time: I can wreck a nice beach. I can recognize speech. Well, the phrases have to be enunciated pretty clearly or the program has trouble.
Which which blew the blue candle. Failed on the second "which" the b*tch.
Okay, okay. I'll put the laundry in the dryer. No I am not just screwing around on Slashdot again I'm getting some work done down here. Just a minute. Just a MINUTE.
One trouble. You do have to put the mike to sleep during family discussions.
This has been said already, but it is really worth highlighting at this point. This discussion has shown clearly that Diebold's claim is flimsy on technical and legal grounds. This play really does not make much sense unless these data reveal some deeper flaw (or worse) in the method. The whole thing is odd. Stinks actually. Usually the state owns data they pay for. "Rights in Data" is a standard boilerplate clause in most RFPs. Perhaps this data threatens the interests of those who won the elections. People are buying time.
The whole thing makes me quite sad. I love technology, but deterministic systems are vulnerable to manipulation. A robust audit trail, with a proper chain of custody (as was pointed out) is crucial to decreasing the vulnerability.
But in the end the voting method is part of the social contract. And no contract is worth the paper it is printed on if both parties do not intend to honor it. IF there is a strong will to steal an election it will be done. I have worked as an election observer in some former Soviet republics. If you want to know how to stuff a ballot box I can tell you because I have seen it. You don't need an MS Access data base.
The whole thing makes me quite sad. I love technology, but deterministic systems are vulnerable to manipulation. A robust audit trail, with a proper chain of custody (as was pointed out) is crucial to decreasing the vulnerability.
But in the end it is a social contract. And no contract is worth the paper it is printed on if both parties do not intend to honor it. IF there is a strong will to steal an election it will be done. I have worked as an election observer in some former Soviet republics. If you want to know hao to stuff a ballot box I can tell you because I have seen it.
808140. Thanks for your considered and well-written reply. Of course you are right. Primacy, recency, subliminal. All that stuff is real. I guess I was thinking of a known brand where the technique would backfire. And you know it worked for X10, those camera people. And would Clear Channel be so big if obnoxious ads did not move product?
I do not suffer from this stuff. I have the right defense tools and I stay off the net's back alleys. I do think people should get educated (perhaps banks could provide incentives to people to secure themselves better when they start to use online banking) but, in the end, there is a sucker born every minute. They are the confidence trickster's meat and potatoes. Always have been. Something like the internet is a perfect hunting ground.
The bad thing is that this sort of thing draws more regulation. People start to welcome in the federal marshall to clean up dodge. This is not a happy solution, but I fear it is well under way. Hope it does not wind up in us needing a "net license" like you need a ham radio license. Just kidding, but it is sad. All this criminality casts a shadow on the rest of us.
d:-b
Advertising works. (Ask the folks at Absolute). Do you really mind a properly sized static ad? I don't. And sometimes they are of interest. I used Opera with ads when it worked that way...and Eudora. With Opera you could even say what kind of ads you wanted. Fair enough. And Google has really cashed in on getting low-key ads into context.
But sleazoid schemes like this defy all logic. Ads don't work when they are coming at people as an assault. They are killing broadcast radio's appeal as well. Morons!
As I said, what astounds me are the vendors who want to promote this way. Hmmmm. Maybe it works sort of by accident. As desperate people try to kill the popoups they sometimes activate the link by mistake. I guess sometimes they like what they see...
Anyway, I hope the Feds mop the floor with these buttmunchers.
And how much noticibly cooler is it? Thanks. d:-b
d:-b ruce
Why.... thanks. d:-b ruce
Cheers,
b
d:-b ruce
I like this program. So flexible. Good documentation for all the features as well. You can configure to optimize. Cool graphics of swarms. One nice thing: I chose an unassigned port and forwarded it to Azureus. Did not like to have ten forwarded ports in a known range as with Bitorrent. (Not enough of an expert to know how much this matters, but it seems a bit more secure.) Speeds seem good compared to Bitorrent these days. Noticed also that Azureus was the most common client in the client list, which is why I checked it out. Worked great with Star Trek New Voyages. http://www.newvoyages.com/ All the Linux DVD distros came down in a few hours. Much slower with some public domain movies I went after (few seeds/peers) but they came together.
So far no bad torrents or spyware. But then I stay out of dark alleys.Stole my wife's Cosmo. Always thought Google's G naming thing was a bit risky.
G. spot
G. string
G. Gordon Liddy http://www.liddyshow.us/ Etc
It is a G spot.
Q)2001 A Space Odessey Trivia. What was the temperature that the three Scientists HAL let die (killed) were suspended at?
A) +3 CNow Mr Jobs is going after content with the Pixar Disney deal http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/20/ 1951204&from=rss
That is a triple whammy. Top software, top hardware, quality content. Move over Sony.
I would like to congratulate Mr. Krafft for homing in on a critical issue; that is, how to maximize and focus the efforts of people working on all of these various distributions, especially the ones that are derived from Debian, to benefit a main project. As an editor I know that 90% of the work in publishing is in achieving the last 5% of perfection. To my mind, the open source movement needs to polish one beautiful gem and give it to the world. Do that and astonishing things will happen. Take Firefox for example. But it appears to my inexperienced eye that a lot of effort is being distributed across a very wide field.
I confess that am new to the Linux world, but an old hand at computing. I successfully installed Gentoo on an old PIII as my first Linux project. I am glad I began with that difficult manual installation as I learned a tremendous amount. I did a lot of stuff with the command line, but wanted to see the GUI. Of course I could have installed a GUI environment under Gentoo, but I was curious to try something new.
The next distribution I tried was Debian. I loved its automatic installation, especially appreciated after my experiences with Fastab, Grub, and the rest. Some irritations with the printing system aside, I was impressed by the stability and completeness and professional look this system displayed under Gnome or KDE. And the galaxy of software available is astonishing. It left me with no doubt that sooner or later open source software will leave the server farm and be the norm on the desktop, at least in some computing environments. It seems to me particularly suited to educational environments, because only open source allows students to legally take apart their tools and see how they work. But I digress.
When I saw how many different distributions there are while doing a bit of research looking for a distribution for another old computer http://distrowatch.com/ I became concerned. Put plainly it seems to me that there are too many chiefs and not enough indians.
Hopefully Mr. Krafft's work can harness all of this creative energy and focus some of it back into some center or other. From my limited experience the Debian distribution seems very well suited as a candidate to champion.
Thank God somebody else finds this to be the case. So I'm not a complete idiot after all. (or at least not the only complete idiot.) Thank you. I got my printer to work but only in some kind of half arsed crippled kind of way. It is an HP and supposed to be fully supported. Feh!
Microsoft is a savage competitor. In a world of sharks Gates & Co has eaten its own young. It has consistently distinguished itself with vicious and not always legal practices here. Remember what they did to Word Perfect? Compaq? (when they dared to ship OS/2 Warp?) Netscape? R.I.P. (Okay, Mozilla is Risen, but you get the point.)
For MS (or any big public Co) this is SOP. Customer is always right. Shareholder value. Yada yada yada. I am not sure how much good this particularly noxious piece of amorality will do though. Most of China's software is pirated. Even the big stuff like CAD etc. (Yes, your cheapo Wal-Mart widget was designed on a pirate CAD. Pretend you didn't know.) If they want to even try to tame this huge market they will have to kiss acres of Chinese butt before they are done. Rotsa ruck Charie.
When the Chinese do start loading legitimate software it will probably be open source. I spent five years in Asia. Asian display a lot of common sense. They will never pay for something they can get for free if it is practically legal to do so. So I think, eventually, when the pressure is on the Chinese to dump their warez most companies will probably Penguinize rather than pay the piper. If they do cut Bill a deal it will be very close to the bone.
I would not expect Congress to do much with China. Trade deficit. T-Bills. Kinda hard to spank your banker.
"That type of patenting must be stopped and all previous such obvious patents reversed."
Really agree with you. This has to stop or it will ruin innovation. Patents and trademarks were developed to launch entrepreneurs, not protect vested interests. The whole system has become elitist and un-American. Benjamin Franklin hated patents. He was an open source type of guy. Never took out a patent on his stove. Wanted it for the public good. (Not that his original worked all that well.) But the lightning rod did. Sure hope the worm is beginning to turn.
I am not against patents in general, but this torrent of garbage patents is just legal landfill.
Svalbard, of which Spitsbergen is an island, is a complicated case politically -- sort of like the Antarctic where signatories to the treaty of Svalbard can have a research or economic presence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard.
Norway's sovereignty is not in question, but it is under constraint. The Russians mine coal there (among other things). Norway has huge oil reserves in the North Sea and wants to move drilling into the Arctic ocean. The Norwegians have a strong interest in developing Svalbard and have a heavy presence in Longyearbyen. There is a developed tourist trade for people like me and my crazy wife who rode snowmobiles six hours to Berentsberg (The Russian Settlement) in a whiteout last Easter. But how many idiots like us can they count on?
Now, put in this context, the seed project makes a lot more sense. It is a good thing to do, of course, but at root there is the matter of "presence" not to mention all that oil and gas up there. And let's not forget those pesky Russians who also have interests.