This will help poor people stay a whole lot poorer.
The course will cost money. Poor people will not be able to afford the course. Poor people don't go online. Poor people miss out on education, school related studies, employment searches, etcetera. Poor people get less opportunities.
Who thinks these ideas up? Republicans?
lol!
First of all, it was a joke.
Second of all, I've been to that country twice, for a total of about 2 months.
I know more about Brazil than you ever will.
I recently saw a very good video on the subject of telling your boss (and thus your customers?) when enough was enough.
It was called Fight Club, I think.
Me? I'd be very careful who I talked to about this. It sounds like someone dangerous wrote it... someone who might snap at any moment,
stalking from office to office with an Armalite AR-10 Carbine-gas semiautomatic, bitterly pumping round after round into colleagues and co-workers. Might be someone you've known for years... somebody very close to you. Or, maybe you shouldn't be bringing me every little piece of trash you pick up.
We are going the way of TV, when we almost got away from it.
When people watch TV, they just sit there, and vegetate. They dont really think. They dont have to think hard, strategize, manipulate, orientate. They just sit there and be amused by what is on the television.
Computer games should be different. I hate it when I come home for a week and my sister, a dumb blonde with probably no future (I'm nothing if not honest), sitting there playing mindless arcade games like you'd find on neopets.com.
Compare to my brother, who even though he spends a lot of time on the computer instead of reading, is smart for his age, figures things out, likes to build things, etcetera. He played games like Starcraft, Homeworld, and now Rise of Nations. He is only 11 years old, anbd he plays games some of my 20 year oldd friends say are too complex for their liking.
We have enough things to distract us from thinking, we dont need to turn the computer into another brainless pastime.
I realize consoles are not PC games, but I'd really hate to see PC games follow the lead of people like this guy.
saying fuck over and over again? That's sure to help
I said it once.
Seriously, '90% of our large fish are gone'? If that's the case, then I have to assume we ate them, otherwise there would be a whole lot of stinking fish laying around. Do you cry when a shark eats a fish, or a killer whale eats a baby seal? 'But wait,' you say, 'those are part of a natural, balanced, eco-system.' What do you suppose we are? Animals? That's right. Did you know that over 90% of all species that have ever existed are extinct, due to 'natural' causes, before humans existed. Must have been those darn proto-human hominid thingies, huh.
Do you honestly think humans are still part of a natural ecosystem? We surpassed that primality when we started making complex tools, spreading to every corner of the earth, terraforming, etcetera. Your claim is just silly.
And for your information, those mussels clogging our water pipes are there becasue they LIKE IT .
I was referring to the Zebra Mussels in the Great Lakes, which were brought in in the ballast tanks of freighters. They have no natural predators, and so they spread uncontrollably. They have jammed up necessary water pipes, killed many natural species, and so on.
Usually they hang out there because the heat makes them reproduce faster.
I dont think you have any idea what you are talking about. They are in the INTAKE pipes coming out of the lakes to give fresh water to our people. There is no heat differential.
You see, the survival drive is as fundamental to them as it is to us.
Their "survival drive" is irrelevant. What is relevant is that our dangerous behaviour is ruining the planet's ecosystems. There is nothing natural about taking cpecies from Europe, and maving them in a way that would never be naturally possible to a place where they will kill everything around them.
Lastly, don't assume that I'm completely against enviromentalism, or conservation. I'm against wacko-enviromentalists who twist data and make up facts to preach what usually boils down to communism or some other crazy scheme.
Oh really? I have an alternate idea of what you are.
A moron.
With the little bit you have responded to here, you have aptly shown that you don't know a thing about what you are talking about. You are wrong about the mussels, naturality of human society, destruction of fish populations, etctera. You are pulling facts out of your ass (and doing so in a manner that an uneducated person would probably think you were right), and supporting an anti-environment message while doing it.
Despite what you claim to be, your inability to take action, and your lack of knowledge on the subject, make it very clear that you are exactly what you claim not to be. If not through direct action, then through apathy.
Do we even need to bother doing this research to know why they are dying?
They are dying for the same reason 90% of our large fish are gone, frogs have 7 hind legs, mussels are jamming our water pipes, forest fires are ravaging our towns, and we are running out of fresh water.
That reason is that we are too fucking stupid to do anything except what gratifies us the most. So fight cancer with your shark cartilage, infest us with foreign species, empty out those ballast tanks, fight those needed forest fires, and take those 20 minute showers, cause we both know you are not gonna change a fucking thing you do to save the planet from yourself.
No, its not that. I can understand not speaking to someone who doesnt speak good english.
It is when they make a whole slew of racist comments, and expect me to agree with them because I am a fluent english North American.
I hate racists.
I was working for RMh Teleservices a while back (doing TS for MSN IA), and the problem is both stupid customers and stupid techs. Some techs come into the place computer illiterate. You can tell: they are bad with their mouse, they have to search for notepad, they type slow.
Then, they get put through a joke of a two week tech class, where they learn scripted responses to scripted problems, based on ideal computer systems.
We have support bounds. I cant count how many time the problem could have been fixed by me redoing the Windows XP user tiles. But no, that is out of my support bounds. Or how many times it could have been fixed by removing tens of extra protocols from their network stack, but I cant do that.
And, we are on a time limit. They want you to have calls no longer than 15 minutes (they get paid by MS per call). If we are going to go over, we are encouraged to tell users it is a hardware problem, and have them phone their OEM. I didn't follow this rule too well, my average talktime for a day was usually 30 minutes or so.
Users are stupid too. They dont know how to reset, type, the difference between the space bar and typing "s p a c e". They ask what IPs are, why I cant come to their house, if DNS is some word I made up to confuse them, why they are fixing the TCPIP stack (if they want to try it again later, by themselves), why AOL works so much better, if I am from Canada, how they hate getting East Indian techs, why the last person made it worse. The list of stupid things they ask, and wont let you avoid telling them so you can get on fixing their problem is long enough to double the length of this comments page.
There's no way to fix it short of requiring people to pass a course before buying a computer, and ten courses before being aloowed to be tech support for on.
I get books from the library. I do own a few books that I routinely reference, but for most of my reading, I go the route that means I dont have to pay.
Why would book piracy put publishers in a great deal more trouble than libraries? Someone still has to buy the books. Likely there are several groups of book piraters, I am sure they all buy their own copies.
Oh, and I dont like reading on a computer. Maybe my CRT just sucks.
NASA was unaware of the booster issues with the freezing weather. the ones that didn't listen were the top brass at the contracted company that didn't listen to their own engineers
No, the ones that didn't listen to the NASA engineers were NASA officials in charge of giving the go ahead for the launch.
On January 27, 1986, the day before the flight of STS 51-L, the Florida overnight low temperature was predicted to be about 18 Fahrenheit. Because Roger Boisjoly and the other engineers involved with the seal design believed that low temperatures increased the risk of seal failure, they strongly recommended against launching. Morton Thiokol management, mostly engineers, agreed with the recommendation and conveyed this message to NASA in a teleconference.
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Although no one would ever admit political pressure, the decision to launch Challenger was made against the backdrop of many delays, as well as the highly publicized "Teacher in Space" program, and was scheduled for the morning of President Reagan's State of the Union address. It was in this atmosphere that Jerald Mason, Senior Vice-President of the Morton Thiokol Wasatch Operations made the now famous, "take off your engineering hat and put on your management hat," statement to Robert Lund, Vice President of Engineering, and Morton Thiokol reversed their decision and advised NASA to launch.
Yes, you are totally right. How dare I be so politically incorrect. I apologize.
you mean the Mars Climate Oribter that was lost due to one team using miles and the other using kilmometers? um, that was the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, not NASA.
Something has to be done about NASA. They are clearly far too inadequate to do their job properly.
They ignored their engineers in '86. Astronauts died.
They cant convert units, expensive Mars rovers are lost.
They didnt follow proper safety procedures this year, astronauts died.
They lose prototype planes because they decide not to test added elements. They lose this, and that, and lose billions of dollars doing it.
I dunno about all you other readers, but it seems to me that NASA needs some *serious* restructuring.
This better, faster, cheaper thing has turned out to be broken, slow, and expensive. It's bad enough we lose prototype planes worth billions to their errors, let alone the 14 astronauts sacrificed in the name of saving costs to keep a complex bureaucracy well paid.
This isn't a step in the right direction. They aren't changing their business model.
You said it yourself, they are not changing any pre-existing practices, like high CD prices, overcharging artists, suing college students for hundreds of millions of dollars, etcetera.
This is stupider than ignoring Iraq cause Bush is giving 15 billion bucks to corrupt African nations to fight AIDS.
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I hear they don't insulate too well either, what with the holes popping up all the time.
I don't even inhabit your country, let alone am I a democrat.
And this article made no provison for library exemptions.
This will help poor people stay a whole lot poorer. The course will cost money. Poor people will not be able to afford the course. Poor people don't go online. Poor people miss out on education, school related studies, employment searches, etcetera. Poor people get less opportunities. Who thinks these ideas up? Republicans?
What's even more amusing than the lame analogy is that doctors are actually using leeches a lot in medicine, because they work better.
Yes, because when the invigolator is at the front of the class yelling out the answers, your son will be able to hear them better.
lol! First of all, it was a joke. Second of all, I've been to that country twice, for a total of about 2 months. I know more about Brazil than you ever will.
It was called Fight Club, I think.
We all know there is only one thing we care about in Brazil.
We are going the way of TV, when we almost got away from it.
When people watch TV, they just sit there, and vegetate. They dont really think. They dont have to think hard, strategize, manipulate, orientate. They just sit there and be amused by what is on the television.
Computer games should be different. I hate it when I come home for a week and my sister, a dumb blonde with probably no future (I'm nothing if not honest), sitting there playing mindless arcade games like you'd find on neopets.com.
Compare to my brother, who even though he spends a lot of time on the computer instead of reading, is smart for his age, figures things out, likes to build things, etcetera. He played games like Starcraft, Homeworld, and now Rise of Nations. He is only 11 years old, anbd he plays games some of my 20 year oldd friends say are too complex for their liking.
We have enough things to distract us from thinking, we dont need to turn the computer into another brainless pastime.
I realize consoles are not PC games, but I'd really hate to see PC games follow the lead of people like this guy.
Despite what you claim to be, your inability to take action, and your lack of knowledge on the subject, make it very clear that you are exactly what you claim not to be. If not through direct action, then through apathy.
Nice ad hominem. Thanks for contributing nothing, troll.
Do we even need to bother doing this research to know why they are dying?
They are dying for the same reason 90% of our large fish are gone, frogs have 7 hind legs, mussels are jamming our water pipes, forest fires are ravaging our towns, and we are running out of fresh water.
That reason is that we are too fucking stupid to do anything except what gratifies us the most. So fight cancer with your shark cartilage, infest us with foreign species, empty out those ballast tanks, fight those needed forest fires, and take those 20 minute showers, cause we both know you are not gonna change a fucking thing you do to save the planet from yourself.
No, its not that. I can understand not speaking to someone who doesnt speak good english. It is when they make a whole slew of racist comments, and expect me to agree with them because I am a fluent english North American. I hate racists.
I was working for RMh Teleservices a while back (doing TS for MSN IA), and the problem is both stupid customers and stupid techs. Some techs come into the place computer illiterate. You can tell: they are bad with their mouse, they have to search for notepad, they type slow.
Then, they get put through a joke of a two week tech class, where they learn scripted responses to scripted problems, based on ideal computer systems.
We have support bounds. I cant count how many time the problem could have been fixed by me redoing the Windows XP user tiles. But no, that is out of my support bounds. Or how many times it could have been fixed by removing tens of extra protocols from their network stack, but I cant do that.
And, we are on a time limit. They want you to have calls no longer than 15 minutes (they get paid by MS per call). If we are going to go over, we are encouraged to tell users it is a hardware problem, and have them phone their OEM. I didn't follow this rule too well, my average talktime for a day was usually 30 minutes or so.
Users are stupid too. They dont know how to reset, type, the difference between the space bar and typing "s p a c e". They ask what IPs are, why I cant come to their house, if DNS is some word I made up to confuse them, why they are fixing the TCPIP stack (if they want to try it again later, by themselves), why AOL works so much better, if I am from Canada, how they hate getting East Indian techs, why the last person made it worse. The list of stupid things they ask, and wont let you avoid telling them so you can get on fixing their problem is long enough to double the length of this comments page.
There's no way to fix it short of requiring people to pass a course before buying a computer, and ten courses before being aloowed to be tech support for on.
I get books from the library. I do own a few books that I routinely reference, but for most of my reading, I go the route that means I dont have to pay.
Why would book piracy put publishers in a great deal more trouble than libraries? Someone still has to buy the books. Likely there are several groups of book piraters, I am sure they all buy their own copies.
Oh, and I dont like reading on a computer. Maybe my CRT just sucks.
"Doctor" and "Bush". After the last few years, I have a lot of trouble visualizing that...
Especially to a guy who's name is sorehands.com?
Oooh, maybe we can stick harnesses on them and ride them around the sea in giant whale races!
I can see it now: The Orca Cup, the Bottlenose Trophy.
(I think corporations have done enough to fuck our planet right up it's 900,000 assholes.)
MS Windows is not the problem.
It is stupid people using this OS.
I can give an excuse to millions of people who use Windows and are not tech savvy people, but how do slashdot readers have so many problems?
Want to fix 100% of your MS problems? Stop your kid brother from downloading porn dialers and image viewers.
The thing is that all these things are preventable - and not just in hindsight.
NASA was unaware of the booster issues with the freezing weather. the ones that didn't listen were the top brass at the contracted company that didn't listen to their own engineers
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No, the ones that didn't listen to the NASA engineers were NASA officials in charge of giving the go ahead for the launch.
See this page.
Quote from page:
On January 27, 1986, the day before the flight of STS 51-L, the Florida overnight low temperature was predicted to be about 18 Fahrenheit. Because Roger Boisjoly and the other engineers involved with the seal design believed that low temperatures increased the risk of seal failure, they strongly recommended against launching. Morton Thiokol management, mostly engineers, agreed with the recommendation and conveyed this message to NASA in a teleconference.
Although no one would ever admit political pressure, the decision to launch Challenger was made against the backdrop of many delays, as well as the highly publicized "Teacher in Space" program, and was scheduled for the morning of President Reagan's State of the Union address. It was in this atmosphere that Jerald Mason, Senior Vice-President of the Morton Thiokol Wasatch Operations made the now famous, "take off your engineering hat and put on your management hat," statement to Robert Lund, Vice President of Engineering, and Morton Thiokol reversed their decision and advised NASA to launch.
Yes, you are totally right. How dare I be so politically incorrect. I apologize.
you mean the Mars Climate Oribter that was lost due to one team using miles and the other using kilmometers? um, that was the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, not NASA.
JPL is a subsidiary of NASA.
wow, you are seriously deluded.
Ad hominem. Try using a real argument.
Something has to be done about NASA. They are clearly far too inadequate to do their job properly.
They ignored their engineers in '86. Astronauts died.
They cant convert units, expensive Mars rovers are lost.
They didnt follow proper safety procedures this year, astronauts died.
They lose prototype planes because they decide not to test added elements. They lose this, and that, and lose billions of dollars doing it.
I dunno about all you other readers, but it seems to me that NASA needs some *serious* restructuring.
This better, faster, cheaper thing has turned out to be broken, slow, and expensive. It's bad enough we lose prototype planes worth billions to their errors, let alone the 14 astronauts sacrificed in the name of saving costs to keep a complex bureaucracy well paid.
Fuck NASA. We need something new.
are you on?
This isn't a step in the right direction. They aren't changing their business model.
You said it yourself, they are not changing any pre-existing practices, like high CD prices, overcharging artists, suing college students for hundreds of millions of dollars, etcetera.
This is stupider than ignoring Iraq cause Bush is giving 15 billion bucks to corrupt African nations to fight AIDS.
You said "it required Germany to give up most of her gains in the Eastern Theater"
YEAH RIGHT???!!! Everyone knows Germany is a HIM!
Fatherland, dorkwad!
"c) money wasted on the drug war, in particular prison construction and maintainence could be spent on more usefull things"
That's not wasted money. It is corporate welfare.
Most prisons are privately run.