Boy, you're a compassionate SOB. God forbid we try to take care of others. Why is "drudge work" not deserving of respect and remuneration? Don't the less-intelligent or infirm deserve a decent life? Or should we aspire to the law of the jungle where might makes right, and the strong crush the weak?
The only reason menial work is so poorly rewarded is that there are many who can do it. There is an oversupply. It seems you think the only ones who "deserve" a better pay rate are those with more scarce skills. I understand supply and demand, just as I understand that the concept contains a flaw if we want to build a more just and equitable society. If many people had your skillset, you wouldn't deserve much money either. I assume you'd be okay with that.
Killing someone is a serious thing, even in self defense. I'm not sure I would want t o live with the guilt I would inevitably feel. Have you ever killed anyone? I imagine it's not an easy thing to live with for any morally correct person.
Orwell references are too far fetched? Tell that to the people arrested in London. Or to the peace activists who have been spied on and harassed by the FBI.
It's too bad you posted AC, though I understand why you did. I would love to know more about what you do so as to make better sense of the world I live in.
We should be asking why they aren't building in the US, especially as most of what they "build" is putting together other companies' components.
It's because of the trade policies that Moryath pointed out, and you said was wrong. American big business wanted cheap labor, and they manipulated the government to get it at the expense of the middle class.
Foreign aid is a tiny percentage of the budget, less than 1%. But it gives us leverage over the beneficiary countries, and helps them to promote our interests in their region. We don't give out foreign aid because we are sweethearts; we get something out of the deal.
well, highly specific to each person who believes, slightly less specific to each of the 30,000 different groups of people claiming to have a belief system that is true while all the others are not.
I think this gets to the heart of the problem. It is not a belief in God that is the problem, but the belief that one is right and that others are wrong.
I personally believe that there is a God because of experiences I have had in my life. But I don't follow any organized religion and I don't expect anyone to take my experience as any kind of proof. I don't try to convince others of my belief, and I respect their belief if it works for them.
The probelm arises when one takes their belief to be ultimate truth, and uses that as license to do any number of oppressive things. So I think the problem is not the belief in God, but the belief that one is Right.
I have a feeling that if I thought my job was keeping planes from falling out of the sky, I'd probably keep doing it through a "blip" in my paycheck. Also, if I thought I would be potentially fired on the resumption of my pay. Would you really be comfortable walking away from your job just because the pay stopped temporarily? Don't pretend that wouldn't be held against you...
I agree, you are correct. But this is really one-sided. At any job, I trade my labor for money. From the employers' point of view, no labor, no money. I don't get paid if I don't work! But then you have situations in which the employer expects labor for no money. It's not just this one, I have heard of many. And like you say, if you refuse, once things are back to normal you're fired; for not working for free!
Everyone lives under a violent State. It's just a matter of how violent the state is. This is the case simply because every State has the implicit threat of violence (physical or financial) to keep everyone following the laws.
The "violent state" needs to step in and tell the Big Telcos how high to jump... This is a responsible way to run an essential public utility and not dissimilar to the way banks are run--in the US at least.
I see, so in the US the government tells banks how high to jump? It doesn't seem that way to me.
While I don't necessarily agree with Zuckerberg's his point, i do agree with his sentiment. People use anonymity on the internet to be complete pricks. It's easy to talk a pile of trash when you aren't accountable for your blathering.
This is true, but so what? I would much rather have anonymity than be free of jerks. If someone is just mouthing off, they tend to be treated accordingly by others. I don't see rude comments online as a problem. Heck, I make rude comments sometimes, and I use this same handle all across the Internet. Besides, as Michael Kristopeit has demonstrated, using your real name doesn't keep you from being rude.
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Cut off their head? There can be only one!
Boy, you're a compassionate SOB. God forbid we try to take care of others. Why is "drudge work" not deserving of respect and remuneration? Don't the less-intelligent or infirm deserve a decent life? Or should we aspire to the law of the jungle where might makes right, and the strong crush the weak?
The only reason menial work is so poorly rewarded is that there are many who can do it. There is an oversupply. It seems you think the only ones who "deserve" a better pay rate are those with more scarce skills. I understand supply and demand, just as I understand that the concept contains a flaw if we want to build a more just and equitable society. If many people had your skillset, you wouldn't deserve much money either. I assume you'd be okay with that.
Killing someone is a serious thing, even in self defense. I'm not sure I would want t o live with the guilt I would inevitably feel. Have you ever killed anyone? I imagine it's not an easy thing to live with for any morally correct person.
Orwell references are too far fetched? Tell that to the people arrested in London. Or to the peace activists who have been spied on and harassed by the FBI.
Haven't we all, at some point?
It's too bad you posted AC, though I understand why you did. I would love to know more about what you do so as to make better sense of the world I live in.
Yeah, but they have to keep buying dollars to do it. It seems that can't go on forever.
The fact that "weekend" has a definition.
We should be asking why they aren't building in the US, especially as most of what they "build" is putting together other companies' components.
It's because of the trade policies that Moryath pointed out, and you said was wrong. American big business wanted cheap labor, and they manipulated the government to get it at the expense of the middle class.
Foreign aid is a tiny percentage of the budget, less than 1%. But it gives us leverage over the beneficiary countries, and helps them to promote our interests in their region. We don't give out foreign aid because we are sweethearts; we get something out of the deal.
Because war is the health of the state?
well, highly specific to each person who believes, slightly less specific to each of the 30,000 different groups of people claiming to have a belief system that is true while all the others are not.
I think this gets to the heart of the problem. It is not a belief in God that is the problem, but the belief that one is right and that others are wrong.
I personally believe that there is a God because of experiences I have had in my life. But I don't follow any organized religion and I don't expect anyone to take my experience as any kind of proof. I don't try to convince others of my belief, and I respect their belief if it works for them.
The probelm arises when one takes their belief to be ultimate truth, and uses that as license to do any number of oppressive things. So I think the problem is not the belief in God, but the belief that one is Right.
If there is a training, it's to create a hard heart that will pull a trigger and take a life. The gun is just a tool. The real weapon is the person.
Indeed, this is the reason I decided to not get a gun.
Ya do? Check out his username...
The bill cuts $850 Billion over 10 years. That's $85 billion per year, on average. http://www.qconline.com/archives/qco/display.php?id=554954
Your suggestion for living without government violence is to move to Somalia? Do you know w hat the government of Somalia is like??
See, perfect case in point. You're a dick, and I don't care! :-P
I have a feeling that if I thought my job was keeping planes from falling out of the sky, I'd probably keep doing it through a "blip" in my paycheck. Also, if I thought I would be potentially fired on the resumption of my pay. Would you really be comfortable walking away from your job just because the pay stopped temporarily? Don't pretend that wouldn't be held against you...
I agree, you are correct. But this is really one-sided. At any job, I trade my labor for money. From the employers' point of view, no labor, no money. I don't get paid if I don't work! But then you have situations in which the employer expects labor for no money. It's not just this one, I have heard of many. And like you say, if you refuse, once things are back to normal you're fired; for not working for free!
Everyone lives under a violent State. It's just a matter of how violent the state is. This is the case simply because every State has the implicit threat of violence (physical or financial) to keep everyone following the laws.
The "violent state" needs to step in and tell the Big Telcos how high to jump... This is a responsible way to run an essential public utility and not dissimilar to the way banks are run--in the US at least.
I see, so in the US the government tells banks how high to jump? It doesn't seem that way to me.
Good point. Character is what you do when no one's looking.
While I don't necessarily agree with Zuckerberg's his point, i do agree with his sentiment. People use anonymity on the internet to be complete pricks. It's easy to talk a pile of trash when you aren't accountable for your blathering.
This is true, but so what? I would much rather have anonymity than be free of jerks. If someone is just mouthing off, they tend to be treated accordingly by others. I don't see rude comments online as a problem. Heck, I make rude comments sometimes, and I use this same handle all across the Internet. Besides, as Michael Kristopeit has demonstrated, using your real name doesn't keep you from being rude.
however, since the corporations are at the heart of nearly everything it may not matter which party is doing what.
Now we're getting to the heart of things, aren't we?
It's 1 Library of Congress for every 1.21 gigawatts. Does that make it more clear for you?
Hey, you're right! English is so simple and not confusing!