And to head off the "YOu should have voted for Romney" guys - Fuck you! It would be more of the same times 911. I was HOPING that the BLACK dude would stick to the MAN but he IS the MAN.
You should have voted for Cynthia McKinney, or Jill Stein, or John Huntsman. As you have observed, anyone on the Blue or Red team in an election is the Man, with few exceptions.
I don't see the difference between this and finger printing. If you are going to do either and the person is not found guilty that stuff should all be tossed out.
Yeah, but is it? I don't think it is, though I haven't looked it up.
If so many other countries are banning GMO foods, why aren't we in the US seriously considering this? If nothing else, why don't we at least label foods as GMO, so the consumer can decide?
Now their wheat is growing in the wild. Is Monsanto going to sue the County it is growing in too, or just the farmer on whose land it is found?
In this case, it's genuine contamination since it's a version they never released. So Monsanto did a field test, after which they were supposed to destroy all of the plants. Now a bunch of years they find that version out in the wild. I'm pretty sure in this case Monsanto couldn't sue.
If this doesn't point to the fact that this stuff is going to contaminate everything, I don't know what will. I'm of the opinion that unless you grow this stuff under a friggin' dome, it's going to cross-contaminate stuff, simply because wind and insects have been pollinating plants for millions of years and are quite good at it.
And then there's the whole using this shit as food aid and expecting starving farmers in Africa to not keep seeds for next year because of the license agreement they know nothing about.
Hubris and "what could possibly go wrong".
This is part of what bothers me about GM crops. Maybe they really are safe for consumption. The companies that make them tell me they are. But When they demonstrate that they can't keep their test crops contained, I start to worry about unintended consequences.
My problem with Israel is their treatment of the Palestinians and their continued creation of illegal settlements. It has noting to do with their religion.
Seriously, if our head of the top spy agency in this country is that stupid, how stupid do you think the rest of the diplomatic or legislative folks are in DC?
He was a political appointee, what do you expect? He was actually never in any capacity a spy. He was an infantry officer and a teacher more than he was anything else until 2004 and after when he was overall commander of Iraq then Afghanistan. The director of any agency in the US is an administrator above all else.
Yes, exactly. That's why I roll my eyes whenever I hear, "Well if the head of the CIA can't keep his communications private..." Yeah, he's head of the CIA but it's not like he's trained in espionage. The spooks who do the real work generally don't have their communications compromised.
Honestly I wish I could forgo the 401k it is just a scam to move pensions into the stock market so that I can end up with no retirement and make some bankers wealthy. The entire scheme is a scam on working folks.
They forged real documents and then tipped people off to the tells.
Dude - Bush has been gone for what, 5 years now, and you're still feverishly spewing conspiracy theories about him? Let it go already.
Feverishly spewing? LOL. The fact that he's out of office doesn't make what I said any less true. If you were a supporter of his, then I'm sorry to make you feel bad all over again. And before you make any more assumptions, I have never voted for Obama.
You may want to loosen your tinfoil hat. If you tighten the straps too hard, sometimes it can cause extreme irritability. Ideally, the fit should be "snug" but not "tight."
Oh, right, call me crazy, that'll work. You're a lawyer. Don't you know how politics is played? Don't be so naive.
Rather did himself in. He posted as news a flawed and forged story, because he "believed it to be true". Or did you forget what actually did Rather in? He then blamed it on his Producer(s), and that he was just reading the story. Or did you forget that part too?
Dan Rather got ratfucked by Karl Rove, that's what happened. George Bush's military records had been published years before Dan Rather reported on them, by J.H. Hatfield in Fortunate Son. Bush's people had been working for years to bury those records. So what did they do? They forged real documents and then tipped people off to the tells.
It was brilliant! Now people think the documents were faked and the story was false. It wasn't; George Bush was in a "champagne unit" of the TANG, and still went AWOL to work on his Dad's campaign. But Rather got taken in by forged versions of real documents that were forged in order to cast doubt on the authenticity of the real documents. Like I said, brilliant!
I genuinely don't know what to say to Americans now. It's not like they can just pack up and move to the next country over. But I sure as hell wouldn't be staying another week if I was there... what a sad ending to a country with great promise.
I don't know what to say to Americans either, and I am one. Most of my fellow citizens have no idea what is happening. They think the world is just as it is presented on the news. And they are so conditioned that America = Awesome, and so take their rights and liberties for granted, they are blind to the state trying to take them away. As I have said before, people think fascism has to look like Nazi Germany and even then it has to look like it does in the movies. It's frustrating and scary to me.
The Stasi was primarily an organ of political control, not an anti-terrorism or ordinary local law enforcement.
Trying to draw a parallel is nonsense.
Contrary to popular perception, the DHS can also be used for political control. Remember when the Occupy Wall Street movement was considered a terrorist threat? Remember when students staging a sit-in were pepper sprayed by the police? That's political control right there.
He's been conditioned into a state of fear, just like so many of our fellow citizens. Now everyone is watching what they say and do and jumping at their own shadows. You know, like in any free country...
Legalizing marijuana and hemp would actually solve a lot of problems though. As you say we could stop locking all these people up for a mostly harmless activity. But it would also open up hemp as an industrial resource. As I'm sure you know hemp is useful for all kinds of stuff from textiles to paper to seed oil and meal. It grows fast and has little need for pesticides. But we can't grow it domestically because of our stupid prohibition.
The US cannot go the way of Greece because the US can print it's own money. Greece can go bankrupt while the US cannot. On the other hand, the US can inflate its currency into oblivion.
Yep, got a nephew that is gonna end up having to drop out of college halfway through because he can't get the aid to finish even though he has high marks while the same school trips over themselves to court these third and fourth generation money kids that can just fuck off for four years for all they care, they'll have a diploma and a cushy job waiting at daddy's firm when they get out. He is gonna end up buried in 37k of debt without even a piece of paper, damned shame is what it is, poor kid worked his ass off and got screwed..
George Carlin said it best "Its called the American Dream...because you have to be asleep to believe in it"
Where were his parents? By my calculations, his parents would have only invested a mere $137.14 a month with a ~4% return for them to have been able to pay off that $37,000 in debt. I bet the probably pay more per month in cable TV. Hope the cable TV was worth their son's education.
Right, because everyone is, or should have been an investor. Or do you realize that not everyone has an extra $137 a month or the wherewithal to invest it successfully? Douchebag...
"Personally, I like the filibuster. It usually keeps 51% of the people from riding roughshod over the other 49%."
California has over 38,000,000 residents, Wyoming less than 600,000. Both get two Senators.
Do you know the purpose of the House of Representatives?
So if you think these "progressives" have the answer I suggest you go get yourself put into some sort of institution.
There your life will be very well ordered. You will be told what and when to eat, when to sleep, what to do, what to wear. You will be given limited access to bad things such as TV and books. And all of this dictated by "scientific" principal and "resource management"
I can understand your sentiment, but I have news for you. We are being managed by an elite already. They are the people sit on corporate boards and in executive suites and make decisions about what will be made, marketed and sold and how it will be done. They lobby congress and write "draft" legislation. They fund think tanks and foundations to shape policy and public opinion. They move in and out of government to make sure government and industry play nicely together.
Through PR and advertising you are already being told what to buy and eat, what to value and who to vote for. You are given a limited range of ideas to choose from in politics and can vote for Coke or Pepsi in every election. The major news media tell you about what goes on in the world, and you have no choice but to trust them even though you know that the message is being spun and massaged and they are leaving out the parts that are embarrassing to our government or against the narrative. I mean, do we really know who the rebels are in Syria and why we are supporting them?
The difference between this and what is envisioned in Zeitgeist (for the record, I find the idea of a resource based economy intriguing, but do not fully endorse it) is that in Zeitgeist they are open about what they are doing and why. And they advocate it for the betterment of everyone. You may not agree, and I don't agree with all of it either. But what we have now is a covert means of manipulating and influencing people's thoughts and opinions. It is being done for the benefit of a very few, not for everyone. And most people, by design, aren't aware that it is going on. We are already being managed. But instead of doing it by sustainable scientific principles, it's being done for power and profit.
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Well then let's class-action lawsuit them into hell.
Read your contract agreement. You likely signed away your right to do that.
And to head off the "YOu should have voted for Romney" guys - Fuck you! It would be more of the same times 911. I was HOPING that the BLACK dude would stick to the MAN but he IS the MAN.
You should have voted for Cynthia McKinney, or Jill Stein, or John Huntsman. As you have observed, anyone on the Blue or Red team in an election is the Man, with few exceptions.
Seriously, you can't spell Trial right in a drugs research article?
You look a little silly today.
I don't see the difference between this and finger printing. If you are going to do either and the person is not found guilty that stuff should all be tossed out.
Yeah, but is it? I don't think it is, though I haven't looked it up.
At the bare minimum...
If so many other countries are banning GMO foods, why aren't we in the US seriously considering this? If nothing else, why don't we at least label foods as GMO, so the consumer can decide?
Because we worship at the altar of Mammon.
In this case, it's genuine contamination since it's a version they never released. So Monsanto did a field test, after which they were supposed to destroy all of the plants. Now a bunch of years they find that version out in the wild. I'm pretty sure in this case Monsanto couldn't sue.
If this doesn't point to the fact that this stuff is going to contaminate everything, I don't know what will. I'm of the opinion that unless you grow this stuff under a friggin' dome, it's going to cross-contaminate stuff, simply because wind and insects have been pollinating plants for millions of years and are quite good at it.
And then there's the whole using this shit as food aid and expecting starving farmers in Africa to not keep seeds for next year because of the license agreement they know nothing about.
Hubris and "what could possibly go wrong".
This is part of what bothers me about GM crops. Maybe they really are safe for consumption. The companies that make them tell me they are. But When they demonstrate that they can't keep their test crops contained, I start to worry about unintended consequences.
My problem with Israel is their treatment of the Palestinians and their continued creation of illegal settlements. It has noting to do with their religion.
Bill of Rights? Eroding the Bill of Rights is a good thing, the Constitution is outdated. It needs to die, the sooner the better.
Shouldn't it be amended? What wrong with the Bill of Rights except that it doesn't go far enough?
Uhm, like General Petraeus, former head of the CIA?
Seriously, if our head of the top spy agency in this country is that stupid, how stupid do you think the rest of the diplomatic or legislative folks are in DC?
He was a political appointee, what do you expect? He was actually never in any capacity a spy. He was an infantry officer and a teacher more than he was anything else until 2004 and after when he was overall commander of Iraq then Afghanistan. The director of any agency in the US is an administrator above all else.
Yes, exactly. That's why I roll my eyes whenever I hear, "Well if the head of the CIA can't keep his communications private..." Yeah, he's head of the CIA but it's not like he's trained in espionage. The spooks who do the real work generally don't have their communications compromised.
Honestly I wish I could forgo the 401k it is just a scam to move pensions into the stock market so that I can end up with no retirement and make some bankers wealthy. The entire scheme is a scam on working folks.
+1, Insightful.
They forged real documents and then tipped people off to the tells.
Dude - Bush has been gone for what, 5 years now, and you're still feverishly spewing conspiracy theories about him? Let it go already.
Feverishly spewing? LOL. The fact that he's out of office doesn't make what I said any less true. If you were a supporter of his, then I'm sorry to make you feel bad all over again. And before you make any more assumptions, I have never voted for Obama.
You may want to loosen your tinfoil hat. If you tighten the straps too hard, sometimes it can cause extreme irritability. Ideally, the fit should be "snug" but not "tight."
Oh, right, call me crazy, that'll work. You're a lawyer. Don't you know how politics is played? Don't be so naive.
Rather did himself in. He posted as news a flawed and forged story, because he "believed it to be true". Or did you forget what actually did Rather in? He then blamed it on his Producer(s), and that he was just reading the story. Or did you forget that part too?
Dan Rather got ratfucked by Karl Rove, that's what happened. George Bush's military records had been published years before Dan Rather reported on them, by J.H. Hatfield in Fortunate Son. Bush's people had been working for years to bury those records. So what did they do? They forged real documents and then tipped people off to the tells.
It was brilliant! Now people think the documents were faked and the story was false. It wasn't; George Bush was in a "champagne unit" of the TANG, and still went AWOL to work on his Dad's campaign. But Rather got taken in by forged versions of real documents that were forged in order to cast doubt on the authenticity of the real documents. Like I said, brilliant!
One can only hope...
"Shooting a crackhead that attacked you should be punishable offense" said the dumbass liberal dem
How do we know the crack head attacked you? Because you say so?
...right down the drain.
I genuinely don't know what to say to Americans now. It's not like they can just pack up and move to the next country over. But I sure as hell wouldn't be staying another week if I was there... what a sad ending to a country with great promise.
I don't know what to say to Americans either, and I am one. Most of my fellow citizens have no idea what is happening. They think the world is just as it is presented on the news. And they are so conditioned that America = Awesome, and so take their rights and liberties for granted, they are blind to the state trying to take them away. As I have said before, people think fascism has to look like Nazi Germany and even then it has to look like it does in the movies. It's frustrating and scary to me.
The Stasi was primarily an organ of political control, not an anti-terrorism or ordinary local law enforcement.
Trying to draw a parallel is nonsense.
Contrary to popular perception, the DHS can also be used for political control. Remember when the Occupy Wall Street movement was considered a terrorist threat? Remember when students staging a sit-in were pepper sprayed by the police? That's political control right there.
wtf is wrong with you?
He's been conditioned into a state of fear, just like so many of our fellow citizens. Now everyone is watching what they say and do and jumping at their own shadows. You know, like in any free country...
Legalizing marijuana and hemp would actually solve a lot of problems though. As you say we could stop locking all these people up for a mostly harmless activity. But it would also open up hemp as an industrial resource. As I'm sure you know hemp is useful for all kinds of stuff from textiles to paper to seed oil and meal. It grows fast and has little need for pesticides. But we can't grow it domestically because of our stupid prohibition.
The US cannot go the way of Greece because the US can print it's own money. Greece can go bankrupt while the US cannot. On the other hand, the US can inflate its currency into oblivion.
Yep, got a nephew that is gonna end up having to drop out of college halfway through because he can't get the aid to finish even though he has high marks while the same school trips over themselves to court these third and fourth generation money kids that can just fuck off for four years for all they care, they'll have a diploma and a cushy job waiting at daddy's firm when they get out. He is gonna end up buried in 37k of debt without even a piece of paper, damned shame is what it is, poor kid worked his ass off and got screwed..
George Carlin said it best "Its called the American Dream...because you have to be asleep to believe in it"
Where were his parents? By my calculations, his parents would have only invested a mere $137.14 a month with a ~4% return for them to have been able to pay off that $37,000 in debt. I bet the probably pay more per month in cable TV. Hope the cable TV was worth their son's education.
Right, because everyone is, or should have been an investor. Or do you realize that not everyone has an extra $137 a month or the wherewithal to invest it successfully? Douchebag...
"Personally, I like the filibuster. It usually keeps 51% of the people from riding roughshod over the other 49%." California has over 38,000,000 residents, Wyoming less than 600,000. Both get two Senators.
Do you know the purpose of the House of Representatives?
Lots of people vote republican because they think that sort of thing couldn't possibly happen to them...until it does.
And then they blame the "liberals"...
So if you think these "progressives" have the answer I suggest you go get yourself put into some sort of institution. There your life will be very well ordered. You will be told what and when to eat, when to sleep, what to do, what to wear. You will be given limited access to bad things such as TV and books. And all of this dictated by "scientific" principal and "resource management"
I can understand your sentiment, but I have news for you. We are being managed by an elite already. They are the people sit on corporate boards and in executive suites and make decisions about what will be made, marketed and sold and how it will be done. They lobby congress and write "draft" legislation. They fund think tanks and foundations to shape policy and public opinion. They move in and out of government to make sure government and industry play nicely together.
Through PR and advertising you are already being told what to buy and eat, what to value and who to vote for. You are given a limited range of ideas to choose from in politics and can vote for Coke or Pepsi in every election. The major news media tell you about what goes on in the world, and you have no choice but to trust them even though you know that the message is being spun and massaged and they are leaving out the parts that are embarrassing to our government or against the narrative. I mean, do we really know who the rebels are in Syria and why we are supporting them?
The difference between this and what is envisioned in Zeitgeist (for the record, I find the idea of a resource based economy intriguing, but do not fully endorse it) is that in Zeitgeist they are open about what they are doing and why. And they advocate it for the betterment of everyone. You may not agree, and I don't agree with all of it either. But what we have now is a covert means of manipulating and influencing people's thoughts and opinions. It is being done for the benefit of a very few, not for everyone. And most people, by design, aren't aware that it is going on. We are already being managed. But instead of doing it by sustainable scientific principles, it's being done for power and profit.
Clearly he needs to contact John Titor. I hear he's good at retrieving obsolete hardware.