Just FYI: This was EXACTLY how Stalin’s gulags worked. Every time the humans in there were used up (literally. worked to death), Stalin would make up a new “enemies of the state” “fringe” group, and send them there.
And in my opinion this also exactly is the goal of those many many huge new prisons that Cheney’s company has built or is still building. Also, isn’t the percentage of people in jail in the US already one of the highest in the world?
Well, I can’t really be sad for people who let a tiny group of people (the shareholders for “the government”) treat them like this. Hell, most of them out there don’t even complain, but think that this is completely normal. I wonder if I would be able to fight it, with all that fast food taking away every last bit of energy, and getting brainwashed by school, FOX, lies-only media and churches your whole life.
(I’m not saying I’m much better then them, or in a much better society. I’m saying that I care. That’s all.)
Real men write straight machine code... for the chip they designed themselves... based on philosophy they invented in years of work... that works perfectly in the physics of their self-built universe... that they hacked together in Perl.;)
I second that for Pascal. But not for BASIC. Ever. I wrote a lot of software that did directly access hardware with Pascal. Graphics and sound cards, a bit of embedded assembler, other systems programming, a little OS, to learn how things work. It’s actually nicer than doing it in C.
BUT: That was over 10 years ago. And nowadays, I think it’s just silly, to still write for loops manually, instead of using map, fold, filter, etc. I also think still doing pointer work and memory management manually is just as silly. You’re a programmer! Abstract it out into a proper library and be done with it! Oh, your C can’t do that? Well, then maybe it’s time to say hello to the 21st century. Every modern language already has a standard memory management. And every good modern language still offers you do define it all manually, in case you need it.
C++: template <typename T> void qsort (T *result, T *list, int n) {
if (n == 0) return;
T *smallerList, *largerList;
smallerList = new T[n];
largerList = new T[n];
T pivot = list[0];
int numSmaller=0, numLarger=0;
for (int i = 1; i < n; i++)
if (list[i] < pivot)
smallerList[numSmaller++] = list[i];
else
largerList[numLarger++] = list[i];
Visual Basic stays in? Seriously? If you throw out one crime against humanity (PHP), you have to throw out the others too! I mean compared to VB, PHP nearly is bearable.
And then Object Pascal (Delphi)? When there are things like Haskell, Erlang, etc out there? I had to work on a 3-month project using Delphi two years ago. And unless they completely changed the language, that thing is just as much of an outdated error-prone mess as Fortran, Cobol and C. Elegance: Not to be found for another 1000 miles.
This is another mark that shows the irrelevance of those exams. They are like a blind person judging the paintings of others.
People also were extremely lucky to get to the moon, as previously 99 times out of 100, everyone would have died a firey accident.
If you only think about what could happen, you have to lock yourself down in a sterile environment below ground and everything. Take a fucking risk will ya?
I’m not saying go crazy. I’m saying learn to know what you can do and what not, and get to your own limits. Because that’s literally the difference between a genius an someone complaining all day long about everything he “can’t” do.
There is a difference between Russian Roulette and this. Since you vastly improve your chances with skill in doing slides with a car. Look at professional Rally drivers. That’s how skill can change things. And considering he did stuff like this very often, he definitely got some training and skills. It was not the wisest thing, as it was a bit over his skills. But far from a 99% chance of death as you paint it.
Also, 180 degree turns look far worse as they are. Actually the dynamics of such a rotating forward motion make it the wisest choice to stop the rotation when you are forward facing. If you are on gravel, you can do it after a couple of tries. On ice (with spikes) it’s even pretty easy.
Take the five inches of padding of yourself, pull of the warning labels, and learn to handle situations. Get some skill and live, will ya?
May I recommend a upgrade in processing power then?;)
Further integration means more power to the EP, and less to the Council.
I have no idea what you thought we were talking about. But we were talking about further integration of states into one country. Which results in less governments to choose from. And that, like any monopoly, results in loss of freedom and more oppression by the monopoly. While your idea of “democracy” is, that people can choose their government.
Which in happy wonder dreamland of rainbow and love world would also be true for world governments. But in actual reality isn’t even the case for countries as small an Luxemburg, or single cities. Because governing representative humans, as I said, are by the definition of being a life-form, primarily selfish. (Billions of years of evolution trained for ultimately only selfish life-forms to survive.) Unfortunately, most people rather want to close their eyes in denial and continue living in fantasy world where being selfless is the big ideal (that is promoted by those who profit from others being selfless, who then because of that selfishness, are the winners of evolution). Hence representative government is a hilarious absurdity. But hey, if you really want it... if you really want to be used and abused, who am I to judge? I’m just going to be one of those that you love so much to be abused by, and use it to win my round of natural selection. ^^
Since the EP is directly accountable to its voters
Yeah right... Suuuure... Go to the EP, and tell them that you do not accept their behavior and you will hold them accountable / punish them, and see what you will get. Go ahead. Tell me how much they are accountable. Tell me how anything they do in in any way influencable by you... As I said: Happy wonder dreamland of rainbow and love world... with ponies, faeries and love bears hugging each other all day long...
NK General: Try one of these North Korean stories, ambassador, they're pretty good. /. Ambassador: Thank you, no. I do not support the propaganda of Commie stooges. NK General: Oh, only Imperialist stooges, ay? President Taco:Gentlemen, you can't argue in here! This is a discussion forum!
So you are very wrong, by suggesting that because the real world isn’t fun, the simulations of it also shouldn’t. Quite the opposite is true. Have you ever noticed how in every game, film and book, there usually is this horrible base scenarios, which then has to be fought to make everything good again? And it feels great and fun, doesn’t it? Well, that’s because it is.
I understand how you might be wondering how that could be fun and feel right too. So I will give you examples based on your examples: - Civilian casualties: Prevent them even though they get harder and harder, thereby becoming really good at it, and in return seeing happy communities that you saved, and getting their support as a reward. - Oppression: Find ways to subvert and overcome oppression in real-world scenarios. Then get punished really hard ingame, trough events that really make you feel angry and raising your emotions. Meanwhile you come in contact with other oppressed people (modelled after real people with real stories. [Example: A neighbor of mine, a sweet old lady, once told me with tears in her eyes, how she had to witness how they first put some of the town’s children on sticks and roasted them over the fire, and then left the rest of the town on a locked field to die of thirst. This was in Yugoslavia. You can’t hold back the emotions there. Not a chance.]) Until you finally flee, and come back, trained and fit to overthrow the enemy and free everybody. Vulgar and obscene acts of violence: Again, the same basic patterns work: 1. The game creates an emotional attachment between you an some characters. 2. In waves you see A. those things happen, and B. fight them successfully while learning from it, in an ever-growing crescendo (= 3....), until 4. the final win.
If those games are based on real-world experience from real people and events, and if the story writer / game designer succeeds in creating an emotional attachment and a motivation based on it (= a real goal), then becoming good at those things, and having so much fun succeeding (doing good, having success and everything) are the exact same thing.:)
I’m sorry, but your definition of what is a “game” is way off.
A game is by definition fun. If it is not, it is not a game, but a simulation. (Yes, if you have fun with a simulation, it becomes a game.) The reason is, that fun is essential to motivation which itself is essential in good progress. E.g. learning progress. See it like this: Fun is pleasure with surprises. Surprises are all things that your brain did not expect. (Essentially all spikes in a neural network.) And pleasure is essentially just the result of growth/improvement/sustainment of biomass/ideas. Or in other words: Positive feedback. Even if it’s only virtual/simulated. Motivation is controlled by how close your success actually was. The closer to the center between too hard and too easy you are, the more motivating it will be. Which maximizes learning and how hard future tasks can be. (A genius is someone who is really good at keeping that balance, and can structure/group his thoughts. That’s it.)
So success in a motivating work, that has some unexpected things to learn, results in the most fun. Which means that you can tell the amount of learning by looking at how much fun it is. (What you can’t tell with that, is of course if you are learning what you wanted to learn, or something pointless like having better skills at standing high G forces on a roller coaster.;))
This is why I have no doubts that the progress of humanity and the average intelligence will vastly improve, when we replace school by a couple of well-designed games whose challenges are based on real-world challenges that we want to succeed in. Which won’t be anything like school today. And that’s a very good thing. Since school nowadays does inhibit free independent thinking and problem solving, and focuses more on creating dumb automatons. It also does focus way too much on one side of the brain, leaving social skills, emotional skills, and creativity nearly completely neglected.
That would certainly a nasty kind of murder: Go to someone who has AIDS, and take a syringe of blood from him. Now stick it into the one you hate. You could e.g. just put it on a needle and glue that on his chair, leaving no fingerprints and nothing.
But man, you have to be an evil dick, or hate that person a lot, to do something like that...
You realize that “further integration” is the opposite of “democracy” because it is the removal of choices, do you? Logically it leads towards only one government, and you being unable to flee to anywhere else, if you happen to disagree.
But it’s all awwright, because it’s in the name of the oh-so-holy “democracy”, which, when you remove the pink glasses of delusion, is not any better than a communistic “transitional government” (those that somehow never ended). They both still have a fatal flaw: There are humans leading others, that are expected to be completely unselfish. Let’s face it: That ain’t gonna happen. Ever. People do care for themselves. People want themselves to succeed in evolution. Or else they would by the definition of evolution, not exist. As long as the proxy between our wishes, and what becomes the law of the land, is other humans, it won’t ever work. Period. Democracy only has one difference: It is the stealthiest of them all. And together with modern mass-media brainwashing it is in fact nearly perfectly concealable, since you can make people want to act against their own best interests.
In short: Unless that “government” is replaced by a “very small shell script” open-source client, that forms a distributed p2p trust network with an open API, a “one government” idea is the stuff of apocalyptic horror stories.
The real WTF is that we are voluntarily use that crappy file system. Come on. There are things like ZFS out there. Compared to those, FAT32 looks like putting a rusty old Russian pedal car next to a cybernetically enhanced supercar / interstellar space ship. ^^
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Just FYI: This was EXACTLY how Stalin’s gulags worked. Every time the humans in there were used up (literally. worked to death), Stalin would make up a new “enemies of the state” “fringe” group, and send them there.
And in my opinion this also exactly is the goal of those many many huge new prisons that Cheney’s company has built or is still building. Also, isn’t the percentage of people in jail in the US already one of the highest in the world?
Well, I can’t really be sad for people who let a tiny group of people (the shareholders for “the government”) treat them like this. Hell, most of them out there don’t even complain, but think that this is completely normal.
I wonder if I would be able to fight it, with all that fast food taking away every last bit of energy, and getting brainwashed by school, FOX, lies-only media and churches your whole life.
(I’m not saying I’m much better then them, or in a much better society. I’m saying that I care. That’s all.)
Hans Reiser, is that you?
C is a language for people who already know how to program (well),
That’s not enough. They also have to be masochists, book-keeping on memory management, pointers, and re-inventing the wheel (e.g. of the loop) over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again, pounding and pounding soft subtle spots into your sanity. ;)
The very bottom? Pah.
Real men write straight machine code... ;)
for the chip they designed themselves...
based on philosophy they invented in years of work...
that works perfectly in the physics of their self-built universe...
that they hacked together in Perl.
I second that for Pascal. But not for BASIC. Ever.
I wrote a lot of software that did directly access hardware with Pascal. Graphics and sound cards, a bit of embedded assembler, other systems programming, a little OS, to learn how things work. It’s actually nicer than doing it in C.
BUT: That was over 10 years ago. And nowadays, I think it’s just silly, to still write for loops manually, instead of using map, fold, filter, etc. I also think still doing pointer work and memory management manually is just as silly. You’re a programmer! Abstract it out into a proper library and be done with it! Oh, your C can’t do that? Well, then maybe it’s time to say hello to the 21st century. Every modern language already has a standard memory management. And every good modern language still offers you do define it all manually, in case you need it.
C++:
template <typename T>
void qsort (T *result, T *list, int n)
{
if (n == 0) return;
T *smallerList, *largerList;
smallerList = new T[n];
largerList = new T[n];
T pivot = list[0];
int numSmaller=0, numLarger=0;
for (int i = 1; i < n; i++)
if (list[i] < pivot)
smallerList[numSmaller++] = list[i];
else
largerList[numLarger++] = list[i];
qsort(smallerList,smallerList,numSmaller);
qsort(largerList,largerList,numLarger);
int pos = 0;
for ( int i = 0; i < numSmaller; i++)
result[pos++] = smallerList[i];
result[pos++] = pivot;
for ( int i = 0; i < numLarger; i++)
result[pos++] = largerList[i];
delete [] smallerList;
delete [] largerList;
};
Haskell:
qsort [] = []
qsort (x:xs) = qsort less ++ [x] ++ qsort more
where less = filter (=x) xs
Visual Basic stays in? Seriously?
If you throw out one crime against humanity (PHP), you have to throw out the others too! I mean compared to VB, PHP nearly is bearable.
And then Object Pascal (Delphi)? When there are things like Haskell, Erlang, etc out there?
I had to work on a 3-month project using Delphi two years ago. And unless they completely changed the language, that thing is just as much of an outdated error-prone mess as Fortran, Cobol and C. Elegance: Not to be found for another 1000 miles.
This is another mark that shows the irrelevance of those exams. They are like a blind person judging the paintings of others.
Boring? You call it boring when the whole sky gets twisted into a tiny little dot while you get pulled to a mile-long thin strand?
Either it’s your imagination that is boring, or your sex is very very kinky. ;)
Nah. It’s just because half the world is descendant from yo mom!
You forgot making them into ‘yo momma’ jokes.
The title of TFA instantly made me think they meant her. ;)
But actually she wasn’t thrown out for being supermassive, or a whore, but because the stench of alcohol was only drowned by the vomit in her beard. ;)
Oh shut up you crab in a bucket!
People also were extremely lucky to get to the moon, as previously 99 times out of 100, everyone would have died a firey accident.
If you only think about what could happen, you have to lock yourself down in a sterile environment below ground and everything.
Take a fucking risk will ya?
I’m not saying go crazy. I’m saying learn to know what you can do and what not, and get to your own limits. Because that’s literally the difference between a genius an someone complaining all day long about everything he “can’t” do.
There is a difference between Russian Roulette and this. Since you vastly improve your chances with skill in doing slides with a car. Look at professional Rally drivers. That’s how skill can change things.
And considering he did stuff like this very often, he definitely got some training and skills.
It was not the wisest thing, as it was a bit over his skills. But far from a 99% chance of death as you paint it.
Also, 180 degree turns look far worse as they are. Actually the dynamics of such a rotating forward motion make it the wisest choice to stop the rotation when you are forward facing. If you are on gravel, you can do it after a couple of tries. On ice (with spikes) it’s even pretty easy.
Take the five inches of padding of yourself, pull of the warning labels, and learn to handle situations. Get some skill and live, will ya?
Umm... no, that does not compute.
May I recommend a upgrade in processing power then? ;)
Further integration means more power to the EP, and less to the Council.
I have no idea what you thought we were talking about. But we were talking about further integration of states into one country.
Which results in less governments to choose from. And that, like any monopoly, results in loss of freedom and more oppression by the monopoly.
While your idea of “democracy” is, that people can choose their government.
Which in happy wonder dreamland of rainbow and love world would also be true for world governments. But in actual reality isn’t even the case for countries as small an Luxemburg, or single cities. Because governing representative humans, as I said, are by the definition of being a life-form, primarily selfish. (Billions of years of evolution trained for ultimately only selfish life-forms to survive.)
Unfortunately, most people rather want to close their eyes in denial and continue living in fantasy world where being selfless is the big ideal (that is promoted by those who profit from others being selfless, who then because of that selfishness, are the winners of evolution).
Hence representative government is a hilarious absurdity. But hey, if you really want it... if you really want to be used and abused, who am I to judge? I’m just going to be one of those that you love so much to be abused by, and use it to win my round of natural selection. ^^
Since the EP is directly accountable to its voters
Yeah right... Suuuure... Go to the EP, and tell them that you do not accept their behavior and you will hold them accountable / punish them, and see what you will get. Go ahead. Tell me how much they are accountable. Tell me how anything they do in in any way influencable by you...
As I said: Happy wonder dreamland of rainbow and love world... with ponies, faeries and love bears hugging each other all day long...
NK General: Try one of these North Korean stories, ambassador, they're pretty good.
/. Ambassador: Thank you, no. I do not support the propaganda of Commie stooges.
NK General: Oh, only Imperialist stooges, ay?
President Taco: Gentlemen, you can't argue in here! This is a discussion forum!
Success is fun. Especially close calls.
So you are very wrong, by suggesting that because the real world isn’t fun, the simulations of it also shouldn’t.
Quite the opposite is true. Have you ever noticed how in every game, film and book, there usually is this horrible base scenarios, which then has to be fought to make everything good again? And it feels great and fun, doesn’t it? Well, that’s because it is.
I understand how you might be wondering how that could be fun and feel right too. So I will give you examples based on your examples: ...), until 4. the final win.
- Civilian casualties: Prevent them even though they get harder and harder, thereby becoming really good at it, and in return seeing happy communities that you saved, and getting their support as a reward.
- Oppression: Find ways to subvert and overcome oppression in real-world scenarios. Then get punished really hard ingame, trough events that really make you feel angry and raising your emotions. Meanwhile you come in contact with other oppressed people (modelled after real people with real stories. [Example: A neighbor of mine, a sweet old lady, once told me with tears in her eyes, how she had to witness how they first put some of the town’s children on sticks and roasted them over the fire, and then left the rest of the town on a locked field to die of thirst. This was in Yugoslavia. You can’t hold back the emotions there. Not a chance.]) Until you finally flee, and come back, trained and fit to overthrow the enemy and free everybody.
Vulgar and obscene acts of violence: Again, the same basic patterns work: 1. The game creates an emotional attachment between you an some characters. 2. In waves you see A. those things happen, and B. fight them successfully while learning from it, in an ever-growing crescendo (= 3.
If those games are based on real-world experience from real people and events, and if the story writer / game designer succeeds in creating an emotional attachment and a motivation based on it (= a real goal), then becoming good at those things, and having so much fun succeeding (doing good, having success and everything) are the exact same thing. :)
I’m sorry, but your definition of what is a “game” is way off.
A game is by definition fun. If it is not, it is not a game, but a simulation. (Yes, if you have fun with a simulation, it becomes a game.)
The reason is, that fun is essential to motivation which itself is essential in good progress. E.g. learning progress.
See it like this: Fun is pleasure with surprises. Surprises are all things that your brain did not expect. (Essentially all spikes in a neural network.) And pleasure is essentially just the result of growth/improvement/sustainment of biomass/ideas. Or in other words: Positive feedback. Even if it’s only virtual/simulated.
Motivation is controlled by how close your success actually was. The closer to the center between too hard and too easy you are, the more motivating it will be. Which maximizes learning and how hard future tasks can be. (A genius is someone who is really good at keeping that balance, and can structure/group his thoughts. That’s it.)
So success in a motivating work, that has some unexpected things to learn, results in the most fun. ;))
Which means that you can tell the amount of learning by looking at how much fun it is.
(What you can’t tell with that, is of course if you are learning what you wanted to learn, or something pointless like having better skills at standing high G forces on a roller coaster.
This is why I have no doubts that the progress of humanity and the average intelligence will vastly improve, when we replace school by a couple of well-designed games whose challenges are based on real-world challenges that we want to succeed in.
Which won’t be anything like school today. And that’s a very good thing. Since school nowadays does inhibit free independent thinking and problem solving, and focuses more on creating dumb automatons. It also does focus way too much on one side of the brain, leaving social skills, emotional skills, and creativity nearly completely neglected.
If I rub the pointing stick on the keyboard nipple, will I get a hard drive?
I never thought that replacing the last image of every xkcd comic with Goatse could be so funny and so fitting!
You may have thought you could troll me. But after a while you just get used to it. Your trolling has no power over me! I laugh in your face! :D
That would certainly a nasty kind of murder:
Go to someone who has AIDS, and take a syringe of blood from him. Now stick it into the one you hate. You could e.g. just put it on a needle and glue that on his chair, leaving no fingerprints and nothing.
But man, you have to be an evil dick, or hate that person a lot, to do something like that...
Won't somebody think of the children!
Don’t worry. The pope is “hard” at work on this. ;)
Well, unless you want to be fried, I’d leave the tin foil away...
Does that mean that putting your head inside the LHC’s Atlas magnetic field will give you the best trip ever? ;)
I think, since GAU is the term for a worst-case scenario in a nuclear reactor, it would be best translated as “nuclear clusterfuck” ^^
So it does not mean “district” anymore? ;)
What is a “<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.de” domain? And why are there millions of them?
Or is that just another epic failure of someone using a WYSIYFH (what you see is you failing hard) interface, caused by the idiocy that is “K.I.S.S.”?
You realize that “further integration” is the opposite of “democracy” because it is the removal of choices, do you?
Logically it leads towards only one government, and you being unable to flee to anywhere else, if you happen to disagree.
But it’s all awwright, because it’s in the name of the oh-so-holy “democracy”, which, when you remove the pink glasses of delusion, is not any better than a communistic “transitional government” (those that somehow never ended).
They both still have a fatal flaw: There are humans leading others, that are expected to be completely unselfish.
Let’s face it: That ain’t gonna happen. Ever. People do care for themselves. People want themselves to succeed in evolution. Or else they would by the definition of evolution, not exist.
As long as the proxy between our wishes, and what becomes the law of the land, is other humans, it won’t ever work. Period.
Democracy only has one difference: It is the stealthiest of them all. And together with modern mass-media brainwashing it is in fact nearly perfectly concealable, since you can make people want to act against their own best interests.
In short: Unless that “government” is replaced by a “very small shell script” open-source client, that forms a distributed p2p trust network with an open API, a “one government” idea is the stuff of apocalyptic horror stories.
The real WTF is that we are voluntarily use that crappy file system.
Come on. There are things like ZFS out there. Compared to those, FAT32 looks like putting a rusty old Russian pedal car next to a cybernetically enhanced supercar / interstellar space ship. ^^