[...] the conundrum of how to make money from goods that are freely available. In particular, they offer the music and film industries an example [...]
Except that information, by the laws of physics, can not be a good. A physical container for it can be a good. The creation of it can be a service. But information lacks an essential property to be able to be a good: It can not be owned. This is, because it can be copied without loss. Asking who owned it, is as absurd as asking who the real you is, when you got cloned by a perfect teleporter. Or what came before time itself. That our language is able to create such questions, does not mean that they make any sense.
If one actually accepts that fact, it is easy to come up with a realistic business model. Because there is only one event, where one can demand (not ask, but demand) money in exchange for the service. (Ignoring the anachronistic sale in physical containers here.) And that is, when you first pass it on. Obvious. The rest follows from there. (Which, for very expensive services [like e.g. movie making] usually results in your clients / target group taking the place of the investor that you have to pitch it to, and who will buy the service from you.)
It WAS my job, to surf porn, you insensitive clod!
Seriously. Part of me and my colleague’s jobs was QA. Which included our porn channel.
Also, private surfing was never a problem, as long as you did get your job done and the team worked. Which is all that counts. Doesn’t matter if it is porn, or some other essential most basic human interest.
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Sure. They just don’t feed it the crap that you eat, and we’re all good.
Seriously. Did you miss the memo or something? Th causes of “migranes” are well-known and easily solved by now. They are not, I repeat NOT caused by genetics! Which means there is only one alternative: Something in your environment. At least 90% of the time, it’s people not even knowing that what they eat should not be considered food at all.
Remember this really crazy time between 1933 and 1945, where a small group of people could terrorize a huge group, because most people did bend over and take it?
Oh great. The MAFIAA has gotten mod points. I noticed this earlier on other articles. Modding down everything showing you the repressed and denied reality right in the open, are we?
Don’t think we’re not on to you!
I repeat it, as often as it needs. If it has to be, then I’ll do it forever: The copyright laws are based on a mentally insane delusion that started with a small misunderstanding of basic physical reality, and grew into a cancer called ACTA because of the greed of an industry that is smaller than the toilet seat industry! (Litrally!)
MAFIAA: The only way to stop me from taking you down, is to walk over my dead and annihilated body!
Governments are WRONG on that one. News at 11. You know that as well as I do. The crime is ACTA. The crime is 3.5% off an album for the artist, and still having to pay the studio from it. The crime is monopoly instead of a working market. The crime is not file sharing. Or otherwise actually living in fucking REALITY!
Or have you lost your last bit of independent thinking?
I’m sorry? Troll? Are we now pro-MAFIAA here on/.? When did that happen?
Legit does not equal legal. You know that. And you also know that laws and actual physical reality couldn’t be further from each other for information-related cases.
Also, a pirate was, is, and always will be someone stealing shit on the high seas and murdering people. You know perfectly well, that the only reason for that unword to be deliberately used in this wrong context, is social engineering, to get us in the same fucked-up mindset. So essentially, every single time you follow their mindset, you support them, you make them stronger, you rape freedom, and you are hurting you, me, artists, and everyone around you... except for a tiny group of criminals who snort cocaine and fuck hookers the one half of the day, while ripping artists and us off the other half. (I know this behavior to be normal for a fact, from personal experience. “No drugs” is a rare exception.)
I don’t care if you feel personally attacked in your pride or some similar primitive shit. Because there are more important things at stake here.... if you have hard of ACTA...! I don’t care if you don’t like hearing it. Cause it’s a fact anyway. No matter how much you repress and ignore it.
I repeat it, until you eat it: This has nothing to do with either legitimacy (not legality) or pirates (ARRR!)!
While I completely agree with you, this little piece of poetry here really made me think... Dan Le Sac vs. Scroobius Pip — Magicians Assistant...that in reality, it’s not always as easy as we both would like it to be.
There is one problem with complete freedom of speech. Trough advances in social engineering, rhetorics, and (mass) psychology, speech has become an effective tactical weapon of mass-control like never before.
The list of problems is endless. For example, if you repeat something often enough, people start believing and defending it, even if they previously saw the opposite to be true with their own eyes. There were studies about this. Nobody is completely free from this. Not even you and me. It’s the whole “monkey see, monkey do” social conditioning.
For example: How do you know that when you jump from a 10 story building, you die? Yes, we all know. But who of us has actually seen it with his own eyes? Or how many people think that you freeze to death in the second you end up in open space? While the NASA has an FAQ, stating that you easily survive 30 seconds or even more in the open space with no protection at all. Just a bit of reversible finger/skin swelling, and *EXHALE, keep your mouth dry and OPEN*. Or how about touching a hot plate? With the induction ones, no burning at all will happen. And worst of all: The conditioning of geeks that they would somehow be less cool. Who decided that? I tell you: Monkey see, monkey do. We think it must be that way, and therefore act that way, to fulfill our own prophecy, and say to us that we told us so! ^^
All examples of how speech manipulates people, and they blindly follow. Because we are social beings, and most of the time it’s a extremely useful mechanism.
But for modern times, I think we must develop a bullshit protector too, or free speech might become our biggest problem.
I hate how people in the 21st century still think mental diseases are somehow “not real” diseases. And that one would be “physically healthy” and “just depressed”!
Guys, just because you can’t see it, it’s not not real!
Let’s make the Data comparison: If data had short circuits in his positronic brain, causing him to act “all weird”, would you say he is defective, or physically healthy? Now if those short circuits were software-caused?
The thing is that the brain can be not working as one wishes, by only the “states of the memory“ being different.
They are of course not terminally ill. They are more like having a flu which lasts for years and for which we don’t have a quick cure yet. (The pills you can get are currently the opposite of a cure, comparable to antipyretics. I mean proper state reconfiguration trough re-learning/re-association.)
So it’s like someone going into a hospital, suggesting to patients that should kill themselves.
Ditto. I was one of the first to do this. Actually I also used object tags. HTTP POST = outgoing packet. And the result were incoming ones. I had two implementations. One doing constant polling of the server for incoming packets and one constantly keeping an open connection with the server sending keepalive packets. I could serialize any data that JS could represent into my own lightweight form of EBML (a efficient binary markup) to the PHP server and deserialize them into PHP objects, or the other way around. I could put a transparent Rijndael (AES) encryption on top, and because apache and the browser supported gzip, I had compression anyway. For bonus point the IFrames or Object tags were 1px big, and had a background that showed their state. Which gave me blinkenlights better than with a network card.:D
But the biggest thing was, implementing a kind of remote file share. I had a folder on the server, that you could browse on the client, in the same way you can browse a Windows folder share or NFS. All very simple of course. But it worked nicely.
Man, I miss those times. Since I stopped doing that much webdev and concentrated on phones and Haskell, I can’t keep up anymore.:(
By the way: When did you start doing this? (I know that the technology was there for a bit, before I started doing it. Since, as normal, IE support was a requirement.:/)
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[...] the conundrum of how to make money from goods that are freely available. In particular, they offer the music and film industries an example [...]
Except that information, by the laws of physics, can not be a good. A physical container for it can be a good. The creation of it can be a service. But information lacks an essential property to be able to be a good: It can not be owned. This is, because it can be copied without loss. Asking who owned it, is as absurd as asking who the real you is, when you got cloned by a perfect teleporter. Or what came before time itself. That our language is able to create such questions, does not mean that they make any sense.
If one actually accepts that fact, it is easy to come up with a realistic business model. Because there is only one event, where one can demand (not ask, but demand) money in exchange for the service. (Ignoring the anachronistic sale in physical containers here.)
And that is, when you first pass it on. Obvious. The rest follows from there. (Which, for very expensive services [like e.g. movie making] usually results in your clients / target group taking the place of the investor that you have to pitch it to, and who will buy the service from you.)
Well, I don’t know about neck features, but I bet $100, that Jobs already has a least a dozen patents on himself. ^^
It WAS my job, to surf porn, you insensitive clod!
Seriously. Part of me and my colleague’s jobs was QA. Which included our porn channel.
Also, private surfing was never a problem, as long as you did get your job done and the team worked. Which is all that counts.
Doesn’t matter if it is porn, or some other essential most basic human interest.
Even better: One-eyed sunglasses! You can still look trough. And I could imagine that becoming a fashion.
Why would the cancer that destroys earth and itself be worth more in any kind?
Sorry humans, you may be extremely egocentric and arrogant, but you are NOT special!
What? Would you prefer to grow tits? ^^
With a second head, there’s at least a chance you can give yourself “head”. :)
I am a flatworm, you insensitive clod!
See it like this: You can headbang like Beavis and Butthead, without bending a finger. ^^
Sure. They just don’t feed it the crap that you eat, and we’re all good.
Seriously. Did you miss the memo or something? Th causes of “migranes” are well-known and easily solved by now.
They are not, I repeat NOT caused by genetics! Which means there is only one alternative: Something in your environment. At least 90% of the time, it’s people not even knowing that what they eat should not be considered food at all.
Fucking yourself rules!
(Unless you are on /., and it’s the only thing you ever do. ;)
Stupid Fland...uuum...keyboard! Has ruined my joke! I meant "than what he really is".
Protip: Never clean your keyboard with multi-purpose cleaner that advertises as offering dirt protection coating!!
Well, they say that on the Internet the nickname really rather is what the person wishes to be, that what he really as.
*looks at your comment*
*looks at your nickname*
You wish!! ;)
Remember this really crazy time between 1933 and 1945, where a small group of people could terrorize a huge group, because most people did bend over and take it?
Yeah. That one.
Q.E.D.
Oh great. The MAFIAA has gotten mod points. I noticed this earlier on other articles.
Modding down everything showing you the repressed and denied reality right in the open, are we?
Don’t think we’re not on to you!
I repeat it, as often as it needs. If it has to be, then I’ll do it forever:
The copyright laws are based on a mentally insane delusion that started with a small misunderstanding of basic physical reality, and grew into a cancer called ACTA because of the greed of an industry that is smaller than the toilet seat industry! (Litrally!)
MAFIAA: The only way to stop me from taking you down, is to walk over my dead and annihilated body!
Governments are WRONG on that one. News at 11. You know that as well as I do.
The crime is ACTA. The crime is 3.5% off an album for the artist, and still having to pay the studio from it. The crime is monopoly instead of a working market. The crime is not file sharing. Or otherwise actually living in fucking REALITY!
Or have you lost your last bit of independent thinking?
I’m sorry? Troll? Are we now pro-MAFIAA here on /.? When did that happen?
Legit does not equal legal. You know that. And you also know that laws and actual physical reality couldn’t be further from each other for information-related cases.
Also, a pirate was, is, and always will be someone stealing shit on the high seas and murdering people. You know perfectly well, that the only reason for that unword to be deliberately used in this wrong context, is social engineering, to get us in the same fucked-up mindset. So essentially, every single time you follow their mindset, you support them, you make them stronger, you rape freedom, and you are hurting you, me, artists, and everyone around you... except for a tiny group of criminals who snort cocaine and fuck hookers the one half of the day, while ripping artists and us off the other half. (I know this behavior to be normal for a fact, from personal experience. “No drugs” is a rare exception.)
I don’t care if you feel personally attacked in your pride or some similar primitive shit. Because there are more important things at stake here.... if you have hard of ACTA...!
I don’t care if you don’t like hearing it. Cause it’s a fact anyway. No matter how much you repress and ignore it.
I repeat it, until you eat it: This has nothing to do with either legitimacy (not legality) or pirates (ARRR!)!
GP: Our trollings will blot out discussion! /ducks
P: Then we will post as a joke!
Me: It that supposed to be English?
Wow. The barrier to entry for getting a comment on slashdot has really lowered, hasn't it? How is this even worth mentioning? ;)
While I completely agree with you, this little piece of poetry here really made me think... ...that in reality, it’s not always as easy as we both would like it to be.
Dan Le Sac vs. Scroobius Pip — Magicians Assistant
There is one problem with complete freedom of speech.
Trough advances in social engineering, rhetorics, and (mass) psychology, speech has become an effective tactical weapon of mass-control like never before.
The list of problems is endless. For example, if you repeat something often enough, people start believing and defending it, even if they previously saw the opposite to be true with their own eyes. There were studies about this.
Nobody is completely free from this. Not even you and me.
It’s the whole “monkey see, monkey do” social conditioning.
For example: How do you know that when you jump from a 10 story building, you die? Yes, we all know. But who of us has actually seen it with his own eyes?
Or how many people think that you freeze to death in the second you end up in open space? While the NASA has an FAQ, stating that you easily survive 30 seconds or even more in the open space with no protection at all. Just a bit of reversible finger/skin swelling, and *EXHALE, keep your mouth dry and OPEN*.
Or how about touching a hot plate? With the induction ones, no burning at all will happen.
And worst of all: The conditioning of geeks that they would somehow be less cool. Who decided that? I tell you: Monkey see, monkey do. We think it must be that way, and therefore act that way, to fulfill our own prophecy, and say to us that we told us so! ^^
All examples of how speech manipulates people, and they blindly follow. Because we are social beings, and most of the time it’s a extremely useful mechanism.
But for modern times, I think we must develop a bullshit protector too, or free speech might become our biggest problem.
I hate how people in the 21st century still think mental diseases are somehow “not real” diseases. And that one would be “physically healthy” and “just depressed”!
Guys, just because you can’t see it, it’s not not real!
Let’s make the Data comparison: If data had short circuits in his positronic brain, causing him to act “all weird”, would you say he is defective, or physically healthy?
Now if those short circuits were software-caused?
The thing is that the brain can be not working as one wishes, by only the “states of the memory“ being different.
They are of course not terminally ill. They are more like having a flu which lasts for years and for which we don’t have a quick cure yet. (The pills you can get are currently the opposite of a cure, comparable to antipyretics. I mean proper state reconfiguration trough re-learning/re-association.)
So it’s like someone going into a hospital, suggesting to patients that should kill themselves.
Who of you remembers actual <layer> tags? :D
Creating a keyboard-controlled Tetris on Netscape Navigator 4.5 ruled! :D
Ditto. I was one of the first to do this. Actually I also used object tags. :D
HTTP POST = outgoing packet. And the result were incoming ones. I had two implementations. One doing constant polling of the server for incoming packets and one constantly keeping an open connection with the server sending keepalive packets.
I could serialize any data that JS could represent into my own lightweight form of EBML (a efficient binary markup) to the PHP server and deserialize them into PHP objects, or the other way around. I could put a transparent Rijndael (AES) encryption on top, and because apache and the browser supported gzip, I had compression anyway. For bonus point the IFrames or Object tags were 1px big, and had a background that showed their state. Which gave me blinkenlights better than with a network card.
But the biggest thing was, implementing a kind of remote file share. I had a folder on the server, that you could browse on the client, in the same way you can browse a Windows folder share or NFS. All very simple of course. But it worked nicely.
Man, I miss those times. Since I stopped doing that much webdev and concentrated on phones and Haskell, I can’t keep up anymore. :(
By the way: When did you start doing this? (I know that the technology was there for a bit, before I started doing it. Since, as normal, IE support was a requirement. :/)
Cows eating grass, outside...where have you seen that? O_o
It’s called south south America. Or Switzerland. Look it up! ^^
(Seriously, Switzerland is cow heaven right there. So insanely beautiful!)
Dude, you’re handling our personal information! You keep it safe, or I’m gonna rip your ass open at the next election! (Or sooner.)
The only stuff that should be open, should be anonymized data, and what the government is actually doing and information about what data they have.