Hit them where it hurts: don't fly. If you really want to stand up, then sit down. tell your favorite airline that you aren't flying until they promise passenger privacy. If you feel REAL civic, write your congresscritter and tell them, too. Money talks, and if enough "consumers" do this, someone will start/reform an airline to respect the rights of Those Who Pay The Bills.
What can people on the moon or Mars do that a robot can't?
Fuck. Raise kids, build things, fix broken robots. Write code, jerry-rig flaky experiments, build new societies. Create poetry about the places we've been. Did I mention that robots can't fuck?
there are plenty of things that robots can't do that all come naturally to us. Bush may only be talking about a develpment plan and modest re-arranging of NASA (desperately needed, IMHO). The real goal of space exploration must be the opening of the new frontier for all.
"One way to stay" mission designs are not new. George W. Herbert, an aerospace engineer and regular on the sci.space newsgroups, has made several detailed proposals like this. Most of them revolve around the point that sending a life-time's worth of food to Mars is not that expensive, especially compared to the scientific and engineering returns on such a project. One way missions to Mars should be considered the start of colonizing, not "abandoning" astronauts there. Also, even with a nominal one-way flight, there is always the possibility of getting home 10, 20 years in the future.
The prototype "Hyper-X" vehicle was destroyed over the Pacific ocean a couple years ago. The Pegasus rocket it was mounted on malfunctioned and the airframe was destroyed.
It'd be some fun to fly the HyperSoar profile, every few minutes your laptop would float away.
Verizon service in Maine is aweful. It's fine in southern New England, but i end up having to call-back several times to hold a 10 minute conversation. That's why I'm going to get an i90 and nextel service today.
Some people I've talked with say that their cell phones get odd messages when calling sometimes, they say "Welcome to roaming services, credit card number please?" or similar. It seems like it might be a new "slam" or some telco trolling for extra cash.
The ad agency I used to work for had a round of layoffs last August, when they cut the production staff in half. Then, 10% paycuts and firing 20% of the company in December. Of course, they went out of business this spring, thank Bob for unemployment.
NASA is legally prohibited from accepting money from any source except Congress. Lucas or Cameron could offer up their entire fortune to NASA, and the agency wouldn't be able to touch it.
A better "Hollywood" tax for space development would be a promotional deal between a studio and one of the startup companies trying to build an SSTO or suborbital ship. That would be a much better use of "sci-fi" funding (and would not be a tax, but a bus. partnership), that would be very useful for real space development, and it'd be legal.
... or thousands of year's worth of uranium. The Earth's oceans have literally hundreds of tons of dissolved uranium and uranides (and gold, etc) floating in them. All it takes is an economically sound (waves hands) process for extracting the material.
It's probably because they have yet to be properly explained, while still accounting for the very explosive solar transition that pulsars are believed to form under. He may have another reason, but the basic idea behind this is that the planets should be toasted in the initial creation of the pulsar. Yet, there they are, and they were discovered way back in 1990 or 91.
hi Frood! Are you the former red haired Frood of Ellen's? Anyhow...
Marshall Savage suggests in the Millenium Project that humanity is most likely to spread to other stars once we have already inhabited the Oort Cloud and the outer planets. Some of the objects in the cloud have longterm orbits that likely intersect with Alpha Centauri's similiar objects. A culture of spacers who had created diverse settlements throughout the Solar system, would then spread, slowly and organically, into the next system, planets becoming optional. His vision of this progression also involves building, eventually, green habitats of bubbled-in life throughout the solar system and other local stars, enough to change the spectra of those stars!
What kids really need for nighttime reading is genetically engineered paper that is backlit! Not laptops to read e-books, and not that old fashioned paper and flashlight. When I was little, the flashlight always ran out of power right in the exciting sections...
as a digital artist (3d, 2d and video), I used Macs and Amigas for years, both in school and then professionally. A few years ago, I jumped on the opportunity to switch to WindowsNT for my paying work, and also built a PC for home use. I will NEVER go back to relying on Macs for paying work, to unreliable, to hard to maintain, crash to much, and they are way slow compared to modern PC hardware.
and with a solution like yours, human spaceflight will never shown to be profitable. ISS is a pig, research-wise, especially in light of it being a 3-person capacity indefinitely. There isn't enough manpower onboard to effectively do much research, just enough to keep systems running. If the Russians are making money, on both their investement and ours, more power to them. The more people that fly, the better. The more profit that is made, even by a pseudo-govt-owned company like Energia, the better for the future of private spaceflight. Private space is the future, ISS has the possibility to be the stepping stone to private stations that do much more, or NASA can keep being boneheaded about private use, and human spaceflight (like, you and me) will fail to happen.
I haven't seen the XBOX itself yet, but I can here at least one of my roommates downstairs, howling periodically at it, probably playing DOA3. He's also blocked out the next 5 or so days for playing new games and nothing else. yikes.
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Here is JP Aerospace's take on high altitude balloons, and their future potential uses:
I've had a Timbuk2 bag for three years of daily abuse, carrying my kit everywhere, through rain, sun, snow, a number of falls, etc, and lots of travel use. The bag holds tools, pens, Newton, notebook, clothes, bike lock, cameras, food, etc.
it can carry an entire weekend's worth of clothes and riding food. Also, even in bold red-white-blue, the bag is far less conspicuous when travelling in strange places, since it looks like a dirty work bag (and is), not something carrying valuable tourist toys.
The waterproofing is just now starting to crack a little, but it still holds up, sitting in a downpour for an hour in the back of a muddy pickup. I usually carry a heavy duty trashbag rolled up in the bag, as additional water protection, but they usually ends up as emergency ponchos. These bags are the perfect solution for the bike riding geek, i can't recommend them highly enough.
1. welcome to the modern police state. You, Mr. Katz, bitch and whine about wanting all these different laws in your articles and display an adoration for the power of the State. Well, this is the State showing it's muscle, get used to it.
2. the media and the Feds consider computing geeks to be DANGEROUS. you should know this by now. Crypto, the Net, copyright law, they hate or fear us for it all, and this is just the beginning.
3. there is no 3. plz stop ruining slashdot for me, go write for Salon.
astronauts have always brought chili and pepper sauces into orbit, for one simple reason: taste buds lose a lot of functionality in zero-G. The chili sauces help, the strong flavors make it so they can taste something while they are eating their nuttritionally-guaranteed-but-tastes-like-ass foods.
I'm just not sure how i'd feel about gobbing Tabasco on my freeze-dried ice cream, thank you.
The new Soyuz... umm... Soyuz-N I think, is being redesigned for tall Americans to fit in. The current Soyuz TM model was introduced to fit more than just the smallest astronauts (kosmonauts are all smaller) in, a few years ago.
They fly stunts like the John Glenn mission, and waste money (4.8 BILLION overbudget) on the Great White Elephant in the sky. NASA HQ has essentially no control over JSC (Johnson, in Texas), nor exercises good cost-controls over contracters. They have been flying in circles around the Earth for 20 years, while claiming to be "out on the frontier, exploring". Yeah, they have made space boring and largely irrelevant for most people.
The real development in and of space is starting to happen, and it's being done privately. Companies like SpaceDev and Space Imaging are building and flying completely private missions, for wicked cheap, and doing it all with a business plan for profit. Also, organizations like the Planetary Society are doing incredible work, as they always have, with no government money.
The Planetary Society, today, announced that the Solar Sail project is a go for test launch next week:
This is completely private (on the American side), damn good research, and has the potential to considerably change the costs of deep space missions. Far moreso than NA$A launching another overpriced module for an overpriced, underpowered, research-less station.
despite my badmouthing solar, when I start building structures for myself, they will all be both active and passive solar. Most of my experience for critique of solar cells comes from planetary exp. applications, and concepts for large-scale desert facilities, which both do have requirements for keeping panels clear.
Belvario- if you happen to read this, drop me an email, i'd like to pick your brain about your house setup.
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Hit them where it hurts: don't fly. If you really want to stand up, then sit down. tell your favorite airline that you aren't flying until they promise passenger privacy. If you feel REAL civic, write your congresscritter and tell them, too. Money talks, and if enough "consumers" do this, someone will start/reform an airline to respect the rights of Those Who Pay The Bills.
What's that knocking? ^H^H^H^H NO CARRIER
Fuck. Raise kids, build things, fix broken robots. Write code, jerry-rig flaky experiments, build new societies. Create poetry about the places we've been. Did I mention that robots can't fuck?
there are plenty of things that robots can't do that all come naturally to us. Bush may only be talking about a develpment plan and modest re-arranging of NASA (desperately needed, IMHO). The real goal of space exploration must be the opening of the new frontier for all.
AD ASTRA!
Josh
http://www.marsinstitute.info/rd/faculty/dportree/ rtr/ma26.html
-Josh
You're not an "environmentalist", you seem more like a Hard Green or a Viridian.
http://www.hardgreen.com/
http://www.viridiandesign.org/
The world is too boundless for a two-sided debate.
The prototype "Hyper-X" vehicle was destroyed over the Pacific ocean a couple years ago. The Pegasus rocket it was mounted on malfunctioned and the airframe was destroyed.
It'd be some fun to fly the HyperSoar profile, every few minutes your laptop would float away.
not me, bro, two other people have used the word "slam" in describing that event on their fones. Just relaying other's experience.
I'm just sick of the disconnected calls.
Verizon service in Maine is aweful. It's fine in southern New England, but i end up having to call-back several times to hold a 10 minute conversation. That's why I'm going to get an i90 and nextel service today.
Some people I've talked with say that their cell phones get odd messages when calling sometimes, they say "Welcome to roaming services, credit card number please?" or similar. It seems like it might be a new "slam" or some telco trolling for extra cash.
josh
shoutout to Turner G, kickin' from North Stonington!
At least they didn't shell each other over the border dispute, that could get real messy, what with all the BMWs and cellphones around.
The ad agency I used to work for had a round of layoffs last August, when they cut the production staff in half. Then, 10% paycuts and firing 20% of the company in December. Of course, they went out of business this spring, thank Bob for unemployment.
NASA is legally prohibited from accepting money from any source except Congress. Lucas or Cameron could offer up their entire fortune to NASA, and the agency wouldn't be able to touch it.
A better "Hollywood" tax for space development would be a promotional deal between a studio and one of the startup companies trying to build an SSTO or suborbital ship. That would be a much better use of "sci-fi" funding (and would not be a tax, but a bus. partnership), that would be very useful for real space development, and it'd be legal.
... or thousands of year's worth of uranium. The Earth's oceans have literally hundreds of tons of dissolved uranium and uranides (and gold, etc) floating in them. All it takes is an economically sound (waves hands) process for extracting the material.
It's probably because they have yet to be properly explained, while still accounting for the very explosive solar transition that pulsars are believed to form under. He may have another reason, but the basic idea behind this is that the planets should be toasted in the initial creation of the pulsar. Yet, there they are, and they were discovered way back in 1990 or 91.
josh
Marshall Savage suggests in the Millenium Project that humanity is most likely to spread to other stars once we have already inhabited the Oort Cloud and the outer planets. Some of the objects in the cloud have longterm orbits that likely intersect with Alpha Centauri's similiar objects. A culture of spacers who had created diverse settlements throughout the Solar system, would then spread, slowly and organically, into the next system, planets becoming optional. His vision of this progression also involves building, eventually, green habitats of bubbled-in life throughout the solar system and other local stars, enough to change the spectra of those stars!
More info at the Living Universe Foundation: http://www.luf.org/
ad astra!
What kids really need for nighttime reading is genetically engineered paper that is backlit! Not laptops to read e-books, and not that old fashioned paper and flashlight. When I was little, the flashlight always ran out of power right in the exciting sections...
as a digital artist (3d, 2d and video), I used Macs and Amigas for years, both in school and then professionally. A few years ago, I jumped on the opportunity to switch to WindowsNT for my paying work, and also built a PC for home use. I will NEVER go back to relying on Macs for paying work, to unreliable, to hard to maintain, crash to much, and they are way slow compared to modern PC hardware.
make mine... whatever goes fast and is stable...
and with a solution like yours, human spaceflight will never shown to be profitable. ISS is a pig, research-wise, especially in light of it being a 3-person capacity indefinitely. There isn't enough manpower onboard to effectively do much research, just enough to keep systems running. If the Russians are making money, on both their investement and ours, more power to them. The more people that fly, the better. The more profit that is made, even by a pseudo-govt-owned company like Energia, the better for the future of private spaceflight. Private space is the future, ISS has the possibility to be the stepping stone to private stations that do much more, or NASA can keep being boneheaded about private use, and human spaceflight (like, you and me) will fail to happen.
I haven't seen the XBOX itself yet, but I can here at least one of my roommates downstairs, howling periodically at it, probably playing DOA3. He's also blocked out the next 5 or so days for playing new games and nothing else. yikes.
http://www.jpaerospace.com/advanced.html
my morning space news, you bastards had to link to spacedaily.com and put the slashdot effect on it. dammit. you hosed my favorite space news site.
The waterproofing is just now starting to crack a little, but it still holds up, sitting in a downpour for an hour in the back of a muddy pickup. I usually carry a heavy duty trashbag rolled up in the bag, as additional water protection, but they usually ends up as emergency ponchos. These bags are the perfect solution for the bike riding geek, i can't recommend them highly enough.
maybe it's time to upgrade to a Bolo bag...
1. welcome to the modern police state. You, Mr. Katz, bitch and whine about wanting all these different laws in your articles and display an adoration for the power of the State. Well, this is the State showing it's muscle, get used to it.
2. the media and the Feds consider computing geeks to be DANGEROUS. you should know this by now. Crypto, the Net, copyright law, they hate or fear us for it all, and this is just the beginning.
3. there is no 3. plz stop ruining slashdot for me, go write for Salon.
astronauts have always brought chili and pepper sauces into orbit, for one simple reason: taste buds lose a lot of functionality in zero-G. The chili sauces help, the strong flavors make it so they can taste something while they are eating their nuttritionally-guaranteed-but-tastes-like-ass foods.
I'm just not sure how i'd feel about gobbing Tabasco on my freeze-dried ice cream, thank you.
The new Soyuz... umm... Soyuz-N I think, is being redesigned for tall Americans to fit in. The current Soyuz TM model was introduced to fit more than just the smallest astronauts (kosmonauts are all smaller) in, a few years ago.
They fly stunts like the John Glenn mission, and waste money (4.8 BILLION overbudget) on the Great White Elephant in the sky. NASA HQ has essentially no control over JSC (Johnson, in Texas), nor exercises good cost-controls over contracters. They have been flying in circles around the Earth for 20 years, while claiming to be "out on the frontier, exploring". Yeah, they have made space boring and largely irrelevant for most people.
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The real development in and of space is starting to happen, and it's being done privately. Companies like SpaceDev and Space Imaging are building and flying completely private missions, for wicked cheap, and doing it all with a business plan for profit. Also, organizations like the Planetary Society are doing incredible work, as they always have, with no government money.
The Planetary Society, today, announced that the Solar Sail project is a go for test launch next week:
http://www.planetary.org/html/society/press/sub
This is completely private (on the American side), damn good research, and has the potential to considerably change the costs of deep space missions. Far moreso than NA$A launching another overpriced module for an overpriced, underpowered, research-less station.
Veriditas Ad Astra!
man, wish you had an email addy up on here...
despite my badmouthing solar, when I start building structures for myself, they will all be both active and passive solar. Most of my experience for critique of solar cells comes from planetary exp. applications, and concepts for large-scale desert facilities, which both do have requirements for keeping panels clear.
Belvario- if you happen to read this, drop me an email, i'd like to pick your brain about your house setup.