AOLTW is required by the FCC to interoperate with other IM services before they can incorporate "advanced" IM features into their system (video chat, etc.). So basically, AOL is doing what there were going to do anyway. The only difference here is that Microsoft gets to be first in line.
My favorite name of theirs is NSIS, which I've heard is an acronym for Nullsoft Super PIMP Installation System. I mean, that name is just plain pimpin'.:)
When OpenOffice gets a negative review it is almost never because the tools are not sufficiently capable, but rather it is because the MS Office conversion filters aren't up to the task.
Not quite. The No. 1 complaint of OpenOffice I hear is its inablity to "word count" when compared to MS Office.
Kodak's fianancial situation may not be a good marker for economic trends, but it is a striking analogy to what the RIAA is currently learning/experiencing. Companies who are unable to adapt, refusing to adapt, or refusing to recognize emerging technolgies are slowing wilting away...
This is just another example where Lucas lacked the vision to see where digital technologies were heading, selling off Pixar only to form a new animations studio two decades later.
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You briefly mention a good point, which is that as/if the web gets more intrusive, software makers will respond by adding features demanded by the users to block these ads from even appearing. So the solution isn't bigger is better (in this case, bigger ads).
I just saw a little of it. Did anyone think of "He-Man" when the princess first showed up?? I guess the translation from video to ascii isn't always pretty...:)
An interesting point. But using your example, you would not be able to release a JBoss office suit because "JBoss" is not a generic term. However, I don't see a problem with an Apache graphic package.
But regarding you first point, I think it's just the opposite. I think AOL Legal almost certainly knew about Firebird RDBM, but they didn't see a legal issue with that (it is a database after all).
I'm not a lawyer, so all this is my personal opinion and from what general knowledge I have of the law. Regardless, I was really, really dissappointed when I first found out that Mozilla would not be using the "Firebird" name (which, in all honestly, probably slants my opinion a bit).
There's a lot to be said for consumer friendly names. Look at the marketing for cars. They usually use some abstract concept (e.g. emotion) to market cars due to the difficulty in differentiating between one car from another. They all have the same features. They all take you from A to B.
The same can be said for browers. All browsers are essentially the same. Maybe a few extra features here or there, but that's about it. What is becoming important (if it hasn't already become so) is how the web browser makes you feel. Just imagine: your friend asks you what web brower do you use. Which would sound more impressive/cooler/better? "Mozilla Web Browser"? Or "Mozilla Firebird"?
They "researched it for months", and didn't come up with the fact that one of the most significant open source database efforts had the same name? That's pretty crappy research, if you ask me. Fire that guy.
It's a database. Perhaps I'm not fully informed, but how is it possible to confuse "Mozilla Firebird" Web Browser with "Firebird" Relational Database? In any case like I said, they really should have expected the possibility that one day a popular software package in a different domain would appear and use the same name. Mozilla probably choose "Firebird" because it sounded like a cool name for a web browser. I would guess the Firebird Foundation choose that name for the exact same reason. If either parties had wanted something unique, they should have come up with something less generic.
There's no logical reason why the stripped browser should continue to be refered to as "Firebird", virtually nobody calls it that NOW
That's probably because they still call it "Phoenix." Honestly, I am a bit sadden by this decision. I really liked the name "Mozilla Firebird" as a web browser (a lot of people did), and, based on the fact that AOL legal researched the name for months, one would suspect that the Mozilla organization did as well.
I personally think Mozilla is just being nice here. Here was a little group (very little in comparison to the AOL backed Mozilla group) that was whinning and crying foul play (though if you ask me, what did they expect from picking such a generic and common name?).
You wonder that, but it's amazing how easily people forget that age does not translate into mentally mature. My comment was meant as part jab, part observation of a fact that many people seemly overlook.
Something interesting I noticed at the Mozillazine forum was that the web browser was listed as "Mozilla Firebird." So perhaps Firebird will continue to be the database while Mozilla Firebird will be the web browser.
I find it facinating that it at least appears that Mozilla is leading Netscape rather than the other way around.
But I am left wondering how this will fit in with Netscape's future strategy. Will they continue with tradition and continue to release an all in one Internet suite, or will they begin to follow Mozila's path?
make sure you get the latest version of 3.2 and not, say for example, the one from v3.2-3-21-2003. they changed the default language from german back to english...
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whats goin on here... microsoft owned corel?
Nope. Microsoft never "owned" Corel, though they did use to own quite a bit of Corel's stock, which I believe they sold off not that long ago.
Ok, for those who actually believe this was a serious request, if you actually scroll down the page, you'll see the following:
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"OK. The joke's over. Nothing more to see here."
AOLTW is required by the FCC to interoperate with other IM services before they can incorporate "advanced" IM features into their system (video chat, etc.). So basically, AOL is doing what there were going to do anyway. The only difference here is that Microsoft gets to be first in line.
"Waste" is such a user-friendly name. NOT!
:)
My favorite name of theirs is NSIS, which I've heard is an acronym for Nullsoft Super PIMP Installation System. I mean, that name is just plain pimpin'.
this dead horse... has been rebutted a hundred times before, I'm not going to bother posting another one.
Then a link perhaps?
When OpenOffice gets a negative review it is almost never because the tools are not sufficiently capable, but rather it is because the MS Office conversion filters aren't up to the task.
Not quite. The No. 1 complaint of OpenOffice I hear is its inablity to "word count" when compared to MS Office.
Not quite. I think Sun is scanning 40 boxes of documents. The other boxes along with those 40 are to be destroyed.
Kodak's fianancial situation may not be a good marker for economic trends, but it is a striking analogy to what the RIAA is currently learning/experiencing. Companies who are unable to adapt, refusing to adapt, or refusing to recognize emerging technolgies are slowing wilting away...
Mozilla/Firebird's type ahead is better (much better imo) usability-wise than Opera's inline find.
Mozilla: Search text links by simply typing. Search any text by pressing "/" then typing.
Opera: Can't limit search to text links. Search any text by pressing ctrl-f then typing.
This is just another example where Lucas lacked the vision to see where digital technologies were heading, selling off Pixar only to form a new animations studio two decades later.
Is this what you are looking for? Install it for Mozilla or Mozilla Firebird
http://adblock.mozdev.org/
You briefly mention a good point, which is that as/if the web gets more intrusive, software makers will respond by adding features demanded by the users to block these ads from even appearing. So the solution isn't bigger is better (in this case, bigger ads).
How long before someone tries to patent the Global Patent System?
I just saw a little of it. Did anyone think of "He-Man" when the princess first showed up?? I guess the translation from video to ascii isn't always pretty... :)
An interesting point. But using your example, you would not be able to release a JBoss office suit because "JBoss" is not a generic term. However, I don't see a problem with an Apache graphic package.
But regarding you first point, I think it's just the opposite. I think AOL Legal almost certainly knew about Firebird RDBM, but they didn't see a legal issue with that (it is a database after all).
I'm not a lawyer, so all this is my personal opinion and from what general knowledge I have of the law. Regardless, I was really, really dissappointed when I first found out that Mozilla would not be using the "Firebird" name (which, in all honestly, probably slants my opinion a bit).
There's a lot to be said for consumer friendly names. Look at the marketing for cars. They usually use some abstract concept (e.g. emotion) to market cars due to the difficulty in differentiating between one car from another. They all have the same features. They all take you from A to B.
The same can be said for browers. All browsers are essentially the same. Maybe a few extra features here or there, but that's about it. What is becoming important (if it hasn't already become so) is how the web browser makes you feel. Just imagine: your friend asks you what web brower do you use. Which would sound more impressive/cooler/better? "Mozilla Web Browser"? Or "Mozilla Firebird"?
A shame they decided to not use the name.
They "researched it for months", and didn't come up with the fact that one of the most significant open source database efforts had the same name? That's pretty crappy research, if you ask me. Fire that guy. It's a database. Perhaps I'm not fully informed, but how is it possible to confuse "Mozilla Firebird" Web Browser with "Firebird" Relational Database? In any case like I said, they really should have expected the possibility that one day a popular software package in a different domain would appear and use the same name. Mozilla probably choose "Firebird" because it sounded like a cool name for a web browser. I would guess the Firebird Foundation choose that name for the exact same reason. If either parties had wanted something unique, they should have come up with something less generic.
There's no logical reason why the stripped browser should continue to be refered to as "Firebird", virtually nobody calls it that NOW
That's probably because they still call it "Phoenix." Honestly, I am a bit sadden by this decision. I really liked the name "Mozilla Firebird" as a web browser (a lot of people did), and, based on the fact that AOL legal researched the name for months, one would suspect that the Mozilla organization did as well.
I personally think Mozilla is just being nice here. Here was a little group (very little in comparison to the AOL backed Mozilla group) that was whinning and crying foul play (though if you ask me, what did they expect from picking such a generic and common name?).
I find it funny and sad how FirebirdSQL is trying to bully, of all organizations, Mozilla/Netscape/AOL.
You wonder that, but it's amazing how easily people forget that age does not translate into mentally mature. My comment was meant as part jab, part observation of a fact that many people seemly overlook.
I find it hard to believe that this is how adults react in such a situation?
:-)
They might be five year olds trapped in a man's body.
Something interesting I noticed at the Mozillazine forum was that the web browser was listed as "Mozilla Firebird." So perhaps Firebird will continue to be the database while Mozilla Firebird will be the web browser.
I find it facinating that it at least appears that Mozilla is leading Netscape rather than the other way around. But I am left wondering how this will fit in with Netscape's future strategy. Will they continue with tradition and continue to release an all in one Internet suite, or will they begin to follow Mozila's path?
make sure you get the latest version of 3.2 and not, say for example, the one from v3.2-3-21-2003. they changed the default language from german back to english...
Found this on their website: "Please excuse me while I switch to a new server. It should be ready in about 5-10 minutes"
:)
about time!