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Knoppix 3.2 Available
TheCrimsonUnbeliever writes "The latest version of Knoppix (bootable Linux distribution on CD) is out -
New features include: KDE 3.1.1 - XFree86 4.3 - Evolution 1.2.1 - OpenOffice
1.0.2 - KOffice 1.2.1 - The ability to
create a home directory on a memory stick or similar - More information is
available at the KNOPPIX
English homepage." If you're getting started with Knoppix (and speak English), you should also check out knoppix.net for the excellent forums hosted there.
I've been waiting for this "ultimate sysadmin's bootdisk" to include kde 3.1.1. This iso saved my life several times already. Go get it! Go knoppix team!
I am a big fan of Knoppix, "Linux on a CD" is a great idea. It's also a great tool to have for diagnostics when you can't load the regular O/S. I can't wait to try this new edition.
This has been out for nearly a week. Glad I downloaded it before the crowds started forming.
Knoppix is awesome BTW.
I know similar things have been discussed before, but does anyone have any experience on installing Knoppix to disk? Any problems with it? Does Knoppix work well as a main installation for a computer?
This OS runs faster than my installation of windows and it runs entirely off 1 CD. So cool.
What I've wanted, and wanted for quite a while, is a mini-distribution with an FTP, telnet, and web server. If anyone knows of one, could you please respond to this thread?
Can someone translate this to a windows user?
Knoppix is just the thing that I've been looking for to convert friends and family to Linux - worked with several people.
Does anyone know if this latest version still has the odd bug where XP systems seem to boot incorrectly? This has been the major obstacle to getting it accepted at school - still worries about it affecting the computers.
while my Knoppix 3.1 cds are fine for mow i'm glad the knoppix folks are so quick w/ updates.
Knoppix is great for a sys where you can't install an OS. I still use my gentoo livecds for repair, but i never leave home w/out a knoppix CD. (I'm such a nerd)
with a large selection of fake Windows login screens, so I can reboot a public computer with this disc and collect a few login/password pairs?
If you're getting started with Knoppix (and speak English), you should also check out knoppix.net for the excellent forums hosted there.
I think one can assume english is spoken if you're reading an english web site.
make sure you get the latest version of 3.2 and not, say for example, the one from v3.2-3-21-2003. they changed the default language from german back to english...
-- Kircle
This is just another testimonial for Knoppix. Quite apart from all the other nice things people are saying about it, when I plug in my NEX IIe MP3 player, Knoppix recognizes it straightaway and places a link to its filesystem on the desktop!
Reality is defined by the maddest person in the room
Got it, burned it, loved it. Easiest way to install Debian on x86. They put alot of thought in it. One lesser known feature is that it detects wlans and automatically configures the cards to access it. (provided that there is no WEP installed) so it works great at Starbucks....Latte and linux!
~corporate tool, but employed~
I was wondering. Could I use this to try out Linux without actually installing Linux on my hard drive? I'm currently running Windows XP and was wondering if I could just try it out without it really changing or screwing around with my current configuration.
Joe Barr wrote a good piece about this; I'm still burning my Knoppix 3.2, but I can testify that what he wrote here is a good guide for the previous versions and I'm guessing will be applicable to the new one.
:))
... However, I am optimistic that this is no longer a problem with the new one :) (And my German is good enough that I could get through the German screens, so it *did work* it was just ... worrisome :)). And that was a glitch -- I forget which ISO had the German jumping, but I downloaded another one afterward (the next rev) and it worked fine.
:)
(Upshot: there's a script called something like "knxhdinstall" which leads you through formatting hard drive etc, then transfers the Knoppix base OS and included apps. Previous Linux experience strongly recommended, but it's certainly easier than going in with zero experience with, say, regular Debian
I have used Knoppix as an installer for several machines; that's one reason I keep extra desktops around, for playing with different distros as we asymptotically approach The (mythical) Perfect OS.
It works well, but there are some glitches: with some versions of Knoppix, the hard-drive install method seems to jump between English version and German version, doesn't matter that I had the EN iso, doesn't matter that the system seemed otherwise localized to English
As a perpetual fumbler, this is the only way I have gotten Debian working well, and it was quick n' easy. Knopper deserves the computing version of the Nobel for this
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
It won't write to your harddrive at all, but you'll be able to make your windows harddrives readable through the mount command (the software itself might even do this for you, but I don't know). Also, if your looking for a good linux-on-a-disk distro check out gentoo's live disk at www.gentoo.org. If your system's up to snuff you can even play the linux version of Unreal Tournament 2003 demo right off the disk! You'll need an nvidia card though :(. Still, check it out.
Hi! I make Firefox Plug-ins. Check 'em out @ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-mp3-podcaster/
For those who haven't tried the KnoppixKDE edition, it's great. Last I heard, the developer of this Knoppix remaster was working on a new version. Does anyone know if it is nearing completion?
KnoppixKDE doesn't have all the software that the full Knoppix distro has, but I generally find it to be a little more comfortable and much more unified.
The only thing that was missing (I think) in the last version was Scribus. Scribus is a QT app that comes with Knoppix that looks like it may eventually be a good alternative to Pagemaker and perhaps QuarkExpress or InDesign. It's got a ways to go, but it's already quite useable for simple layout.
-Peter
. Penguins Surely Ca
Anybody have a BitTorrent mirror set up yet?
--sdem
... my download of the iso image is only running at half speed. All those bloody /.ers are downloading it....
I love having this with my Thinkpad. I miss my OS X system at home. And need windows for school. Whenever I get unix sick, and need to see home directory... Just pop in the CD.
It works great. Even works with my built in Wireless Card, and my ethernet card.... can't believe how great the drivers are on that CD. Works with everything I own.
Lots of software to boot as well
I am in the middle of downloading the ISO (~200mb so far) and - boom - slashdotted......
All kidding aside, this is a great tool as a bood cd distro and works equally well for a hdd install. Since Debian always put up a fight for me in the past, this is about as sweet as it gets.
An if anybody says Linux is not ready for the desktop, I just laugh. It works perfect for me. Yes, there is a learning curve, but the more you know, the better it gets. AND you can do things at your own pace.
Peace!
What if you had Knoppix on a CDRW? Would it be somehow possible to channel disk writes through a cd burning tool and save all your files directly to the cd?
Space would be at a premium I imagine but if you deleted some of the apps you dont use.... Now THAT would be pretty amazing.
I've used this on several ocassions to show people interested in linux it's features on their own systems. They were impressed that no installation / partitioning was required and they could play without messing up their MS boxes.
-- Rick
You can rebuild the thing and remove all but what you want.. and add stuff too.. Or just hardcode values for your situation.
There are instructions on the site - look for "KnoppixRemastering"
Assuming you have the hardware and patience of course..
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Knoppix is great but it's quite monolithic. Morphix is Knoppix-based (with the same great hardware detection) but it is based on modules so you can customize your ISO very easily. For exemple there is a Gnome module, A KDE module, A light GUI module (with ICEwm) and so forth ...
It's also nice because it's a clean Debian unstable whereas Knoppix was (i don't know about 3.2) based on a mix of stable/unstable packages.
"Knoppix 3.2 Available"
I don't know what you mean by "available" - I certainly can't find any mirrors that will respond
I like this comment alot! I certainly wish alot more people would follow his advice.
Windows 2k/XP requires you to press ctrl+alt+del to prevent someone from doing this with a Windows app.
There is a packet-cd implementation for Linux. I don't know if Knoppix have this though.
Packet-cd project on sourceforge
How small a thought it takes to fill a whole life
None of the mirrors listed on the site seem to have a plain (undated) 3.2 ISO. Is KNOPPIX_V3.2-2003-03-28-EN.iso the 3.2 release version?
I installed XP sp1 on my HP pavilion which made it no longer work, couldn't get to safe mode, last known working config, not load to DOS, nothing. Dead to the world. Luckily I had a knoppix CD lying around so I was able to use it to back up my essential data by ftping it to my old PC. Good thing too since the supposed non-destructive rebuild was quite destructive.
I would like to use a freeBSD live CD - If anything it gives me the sneer power of "oh - you use LINUX? - How cute"
*grin*
I attended a course on a mulitplatform application. The classroom only had Windows PC's. The teacher, who could forsee there would be Linux geeks brought Knoppix with him. And damn. This rocks. Booted up, a few desktop clicks (and 'course some bashing) and bam, a fully functional workstation! Don't leave the house without this baby. Free advice!
Girls are strange. They don't come with a man page.
-- Michael Mattsson
I've been waiting for this "persistent home" version of Knoppix to appear. Now when I travel I may even be able to leave my laptop behind -- all I need is a Knoppix CD, and a USB memory key.
hey don't get me wrong, i think this a pretty cool concept, but isn't it a bit old already? i never used it, but i can remember slackware years ago already had a "live" CDROM.
:)
and there's more distro's (don't know by heart since i only use slack nowadays) that have this feature. what makes knoppix so special? the automatic configuration?
enlighten me please
I've tried Knoppix and it's great -- but I was wondering if anyone knew if it's possible to unmount the cd after boot. It's be nice to be able to insert a music or data cd while Knoppix is running but I don't know if that's possible since the Knoppix CD itself needs to stay mounted.
While knx-hdinstall does a great job e.g. for instant exorcisms of Windows from any machine ;-) by installing a full-fledged KDE workplace from just one single CD, Knoppix also provides a nice console-based Linux when using a boot paramater such as knoppix 2 vga=ask.
Complete with samba and CUPS, in a heterogenous LAN this does have important advantages over a single-floppy Linux.
However, there does not seem to be an easy way yet to install just this "text mode" system through knx-hdinstall on a machine with low RAM and HDD, as the script always insists on using some 3 gigabytes of hard disk space, and filling it with loads of X stuff that may never be used. (There are other distributions without X, of course, but on the other hand there's no reason not to do it with Knoppix either.)
Has anybody successfully installed it without all of the X and KDE code on machines where startx will never be invoked, or maybe even modified knx-hdinstall for this purpose (without rebuilding the entire CD)?
now go read the more blathery answers.
But your succulent pasty white young bum is like a juicy peeled plum. MY! How delicious the flesh is, but dare I imagine whats in the middle?
*giggle*
Shut up, Taco.
GF.
Lots of petrified grits
And a desktop computer, of course!
This would only be possible if you can load the whole CD into RAM and swap. I don't know if this is possible the way Knoppix is set up, but there may be a switch you can use at startup that does it. Currently it seems to run only off the CD for me, so when starting a new app I have to wait for the CD to spin up to load it.
magnet:?xt=urn:bitprint:Y2YAXRLP4RZSMEYSWQMIQPBYP5 GSJLKA.ST2KW6VMR5CX6XG5K4CQBQOBHLECCZFEGEALOTQ&dn= KNOPPIX_V3.2-2003-03-23-EN.iso
Note: You'll need a Gnutella program that supports magnet links to download this. I personally use Shareaza. It's not the newest version of Knoppix, but I've found it to be pretty stable.
One thing that really surprised me was how fast Knoppix runs. Compared to the other distros I've had on my laptop (Redhat and Mandrake), Knoppix screams. The others were noticeably slower than Windows, while Knoppix is at least on par, maybe faster. Of course it's a little slow loading applications from a CD, but otherwise it's a screamer.
The boot speed is incredible, especially considering all the hardware detection it's doing. I'm up and running in about 30 seconds. Win2k takes at least 3-4 minutes, every time.
I've had little experience with Debian. People say it's faster, and now I see they're not kidding.
I just wonder why is it that other distros don't follow the trend, use some of knoppix' technology and add a demo mode to their installers. People could boot off the CD, see a demo, and if they like it and their hardware gets successfully detected they can go ahead and install on the disk. If I remember correctly SuSE was doing it ? How about Mandrake and RedHat ? Are they going to catch up on this one ? It looks like the way to go !
And a desktop computer, of course!
Or a borrowed laptop! Any x86 machine!
Although i've said this many times before when its come up... I give these things out like AOL trial cds! Whenever a new version of knoppix comes out i burn about 10 copies and hand them out to co-workers, friends and family. I give a very brief explanation of what it is and and I offer support.
.... think about that :P
I have sucsessfully switched only a few people over (they both dual boot and only use windows if needed) but if we all got a few people switched over
Full changelog at ftp://ftp.webtrek.com/pub/mirrors/knoppix/KNOPPIX
Why doesn't everyone fire up gtk-gnutella and put this new release on there? I just did a search and got zero results for this new release. Gtk-gnutella is great for downloading files from multiple sources, sometimes when I grab isos off it my pipe gets filled because i can grab from 20 sources at the same time.
Liberty.
Yep. And even better is to use a firewire/usb 2.5" hard drive. Very small and works with anything that has a usb or firewire port (and your tiny memory key requires a USB port too).
But is there a distro like knoppix for PPC?
I hope you die painfully and alone.
I was trying to burn the ISO with Nero... and it was giving me problems... same with Fireburner and others. I guess EasyCD creator works fine though I don't have that to use. If you have Winrar... it will read the ISO file and you can extract the whole directory contents onto your harddrive and burn from there. Many use Nero with no problems... many however do have problems.
I am Jack's HTTP Server
Granted, it's not quite the same league as using Knoppix as a Debian installer, but you can use Knoppix to install Gentoo Linux as well, so you can actually use your PC while compiling stuff, instead of having it useless for a couple of days. Pretty sweet, I must say.
See here for details.
The roots of education are bitter, but the fruit is sweet.
--Aristotle
It was from some spammer advertising a cable descrambling device. I talked to the guy who answered the phone (I love calling 800 numbers attached to spam), and he was ruder than he should have been. Of course, by sending spam he'd already been ruder than he should have been, but I digress ...
So, if that sig is outdated, good -- I hope the whole operation dried up and shriveled away.
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
I am making a customized version of morphix(Which is similar to but better than KnoppixKDE because of the module system). I am including some personal files, a few songs, and I'm putting a custom version of Alice AI (Now called Jeebes) on it along with some text to speech(crappy but cool) so jeebes will talk to you. True you can use a keyring drive to hold a lot of the configuration and files but this is much better just to have it all on a single CD which is ready to go.
From the folks in #bittorrent on irc.freenode.net, here you go:
2 -2003-03-28-EN.iso.torrent
http://sfire.fallingsnow.net/torrents/KNOPPIX_V3.
Try:
http://www.burnatonce.com/
I used it, and it works great. Simple too.
Sure, I love Knoppix and preach about it no end but having just got my shiney new Powerbook, is it not possible to make a PPC port?
:)
;-)
I know it would be necessary to recompile apps and use yaboot, but surely someone would be dedicated enough to do this for me?
Emphasis on "for me", not "by me"
name one unix like system that doesnt have a world writable /tmp
As far as I know, Knoppix puts /tmp in RAM, and it disappears when you shut down the machine. The POSIX specification permits the contents of /tmp to disappear on shutdown.
Will I retire or break 10K?
USB memory stick-something like one of these
That's not a Memory Stick. It's a USB flash drive. Sony controls trademarks and patents related to Memory Stick technology.
Will I retire or break 10K?
I think one can assume english is spoken if you're reading an english web site.
I knew this was going to come up sometime in this discussion.
Some people can read English well enough to get the gist of Slashdot but can't write English fluently. Such users include Anonymous Coward and anybody else who posts at 0 or lower.
Will I retire or break 10K?
BitTorrent ... is really great, and I can't imagine why it hasn't caught on outside of the Anime world.
Probably because everybody else is using eMule, which does roughly the same thing, perhaps? Case in point: comment 5627345.
Will I retire or break 10K?
I downloaded and burned the English Knoppix CD, and booted it up... I'm using it right now, listening to streaming audio and working on my homework (from a data partition on my hard drive) using OpenOffice.
This is great, because I get to try out the new XFree86 without bothering to install it on my HD. Fonts look better than before.
You know what wouldn't be too crazy... leave a knoppix CD in public workstations and have a computer startup the OS, connect to the network (DHCP) automatically. You're ready to go. You've got web browsing and Open Office, and multimedia.
I don't see any reference to jigdo and downloading a full CD, particularly when I have Debian CDs lying around seems inefficient. Is there a jigdo for Knoppix given its Debian origins???
I've just given away about 50 knoppix 3.1 CDs at a user group show in melbourne. Its great , you don't have to touch your hard drive at all, and the instructions are dead simple.
I was going to use Knoppix on my laptop running windows. I thought it was great since my old laptop only has 1.3 GB of space, and only several hundred MB free. But I read a post somewhere that says I need either over 1 gig of free space, or 3 gigs of free space, to create a directory on the windows drive for Knoppix to use.
Anyone know what is the minimum amount of free space I need for a directory for Knoppix on my windows drive?
I checked the Knoppix site, and several others, but was unable to find info on this requirement. Anyone can supply the exact requirement? I'd really like to try it if I can.
tia.
Many use Nero with no problems... many however do have problems.
The Knoppix developers have some documentation on how to burn Knoppix CDs with Nero.
Allolex
I submitted this story a week ago... WAKEUP!
I've been showing it to my dad, demonstrating how his Windows machine (constant swapping, frequent failure) is really not bad *hardware* with the new Knoppix version ... he's impressed at how well it runs his printer; next we're going to see if it works well with the color laser which Windows 98 renders a very big very expensive paperweight.
;)
Maybe then he'll let me convert his household to Linux
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
(The guy seemed to be some great Libertarian and all. He now seems to be running for an office in Mississippi. Wouldn't even answer my emails.)
Anyone willing to mail me a copy? (Please?)
My first program, way back in 1981 or 1982 was just such a program.
It printed "Login:" "Password:" and returned "Incorrect Password", writing out the collected info to a file.
Worked amazingly well, for it's simplicity - I had most everybody's password within a couple of days, even the computer teacher's.
Not a particularly original or clever hack, but it served the purpose, even way back when on an ancient printer terminal...
(Yes, Mrs. Fredericks, if you're reading this somehow, I was "PIGDOG". Sorry for that...)
Cheers,
Jim
-- My Weblog.
Actually that, and ease of installation onto an already used HD, would be a great way to get around the "can't preload" that the big OEMs have. Simply enclose a DVD with all the regular stuff AND a Knoppix image. I can see Bill Gates sweating from here.
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This offer good ONLY for someone within the US, sorry.
As a long-time Mandrake user concerned about the availability of future distros from that organization (yes, I'm a Mandrake Club member), I have also long been interested by debian, though never very successful in installing it. With Mandrake 9.1 dragging its release date (yes, it's out now, and I have installed it), I gave another try on debian.
First I installed Woody stable, then testing, then unstable. Lot of work just to get a leading-edge distro. And at the end of all that work, I didn't have a functioning sound card, and a few other problems. Reading that Knoppix was debian-based, I decided to give it a try.
Knoppix 3.1 detected all of my hardware on any machine I put it on. I was so impressed I actually did the hard-drive install (good story on how to do this is on the debianhelp.org site). Then I used that install's config files to debug my debian config files and get the latter working properly.
You can the Knoppix distro on any pc running windows or linux, so why not try it out!
- midtoad
Umwelt schützen, Fahrrad benützen
A friend gave me a Knoppix cd on christmas and its one of those gifts that keep giving. Everyone knows its a good idea, but the Knoppix team really made it great.
"I used to have that really cool,funny sig
Never heard of it before - found a fast mirror, grabbed a copy and BOOM it's up! Lots of stuff preconfigured.. - this is a nice linux. Writting this from Mozilla in Knoppix 3.2 running under VMWare 3 (Knoppix booted & running straight from the ISO image file!) under Win2k on my work PC. Sweet.
Believe in it: I put it onto a 120-MB laptop hard-drive and got it to run its 2.4.18 kernel on my amazingly non-decked-out AST PowerExec Laptop which has a 386/25 processor in it. Yes, the timer comes out at 6.something BOGOMIPS and it runs slowly, but it runs and FITS on a small piece of hardware.
I got the ZIPped version of the file onto the laptop HD by using an IDE-to-laptop adaptor cable, and used the massive power (relatively) of an AMD-K6-333 processor to unzip the file before reinserting the HD back into the laptop.
I'm still tinkering with it and need to remove some of the ISA/PCI packages, etc, and try to get the PCMIA card to work with it, but the command line tools work, and I was able to run some key console mode apps I compiled (on the AMD) on the laptop without any problem.
If you like Linux on CD, you may want to check out Morphix. I don't know if there's already a release, but I guess if you ask it on #dutch at irc.chatjunkies.org, you may get a copy.
Anyone got a script to knock the ISO down to 650Mb, cos one of my PCs appears to dislike 700Mb CD-Rs?
I created one that is console only, and boots to a Quake Team Fortress (original) server, with about 60 maps. I am currently trying to get a mod built for Morphix for this. My webserver can't handle the traffic, so I prefer not to give out the URL for knoppixquake, but if you really want it you'll figure out how to find it. :-)
Get out there and customize your version of Knoppix today!
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
leads you through formatting hard drive :-) All this leaves Windows still bootable.
:-).
:-),
so I would appreciate comments by anyone brave enough to try.
But, you say I have to use Windows for [Insert your strange application here] and I really don't want to reformat my hard drive.
Don't despair, a Dualboot Knoppix and Windows hard disk install guide is here!
I've install Knoppix V3.1 multiple times this way. I've hot repartitioned (leaving Windows and its data happy) and installed Knoppix to keep Windows honest
Since our full scholarship students want to do this, I slapped together a quick guide.
There are many gory details and no beautiful prose
My steps are very cautious and guide you through the whole process.
I haven't tested it with V3.2, hey, V3.2 only 3 days old
The instructions can be gotten via my slashdot journal at http://slashdot.org/~lent/journal/28974
That torrent appears to be corrupted. md5sum does not match the md5sum on the FTP servers. Proceed at your own risk.
The iso from the FTP server only differs from the torrent iso by a one-bit error, so I guess we can assume there is no foul play involved.
It's called Live-eval and it's available as an ISO from every Suse mirror.
there is a russian site about KNOPPIX - http://www.knoppix.ru
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