No way the companies would allow that to happen. OWS stands for everything they (and thus, the two existing parties) are trying to prevent.
And is that a good reason to not try ? It just means it won't be easy.
Anyway, the thing to do is to gather votes. When OWS is worth 10%, dems and reps will try to seduce them by making proposals. That's how democracy works in a two-parties system. As long as people do not care about having politicians paid by corporate interests, they have no incentive to stop. Give them this incentive, it is all it will take for them to stop.
OWS could fit in the democratic party. They could find support amongst fiscal republicans as well. Given the current level of trust in the Congress, they could win seats in some places. Yes, it would amount to a revolution in the political system, but the only non-violent way of doing such a revolution is to participate in the political life. By staying away from ballot boxes, they will have no non-violent way of getting their ideas go through.
I completely agree. I don't say it is right, I am saying that both sides are using similar methods and that if you are supporting one side, you can't claim it is because of the other side's methods.
Using only a list of names without any supplemental information about involvement would be pretty bad. Yeah, imagine for instance the TSA doing things like that.
We don(t ignore them, but the tech world and the bean-counting world have been in a state of cold war for decades. They won't manage to stealthily come into our ranks, we prefer to create software to replace them rather than hire their kin.
And with such airport security Israel has really been safe from terrorists since the 70's. One of Schneier's point is that if you make airport even marginally harder to hit, terrorist will hit somewhere else.
Or at least with openable cases. Have a drawer with spare parts, allow student to freely play with the hardware. Or at least have some stations that are "fair game".
Have a few stations with arduinos and basic electronics linked.
Give students a homepage with a kind of dynamic pages activated (php, python, perl, cgi, whatever)
...when they'll exist. I have been stating since the beginning of the smartphone era that I won't be interested in these beasts before they become really open. And by open, I mean that they can run packets sniffers on their GSM/3G stack (hint, Android does not allow that). Not because I want to break the securities of the network, but just so that I can check what is being sent to who and when.
I am interested in the NeoRunner but it has a few drawbacks that makes it a bit too overpriced IMHO. The mobile network is a complete loss of opportunity. If it was as open and neutral as internet, we would have incredible applications by today.
There's a caveat to this; or an exception- The world is moving AWAY from beefy laptops and TOWARDS mobile machines
But we are not the world. We are those crazy coders who need a physical keyboard with weird keys like | or } to be able to use the command line fully or to code in C. We are those strange fellows who use more applications than two (browser and Angry Birds).
The world is moving away from desktop/laptops, fine. This is the same crowd that is using Windows. I doubt that tablets and smartphones will replace development machines soon for very good reasons : big keyboards and big screens bring irreplaceable comfort. And when you have such a setting, you need a window environment designed for it. I use the keyboard, occasionally the mouse, I won't use clumsy fingers on a large screen that is outside of my arm's reach anyway. I need a different kind of interface. Just because 2% of the people need such a specific interface is not a reason to not provide it.
I doubt that they would have the production capacity to provide millions of cars every year, which would be needed at half that price. They probably just need to sell a few tens of thousands per year to be profitable. Now the world needs a new Ford to bring this to the masses.
Oppressive regimes only fall if they're forcibly removed from power, or if they decide that there's a threshold of violence they won't cross.
And you really think that the US is willing to go to the amount of violence displayed in Syria ?
Also it is interesting to note, seriously, not jokingly for once, that geeks do indeed form a community, a society. Not a secret society, but they are a group of people sharing coherent values that stems from their understanding of some technological details. It gives them power, and slowly they are becoming more prevalent in the decision structures. We are gaining effective power that does not translate to violence.
GPL is not incompatible with profit. You can sell GPLed software, Google sells Android which is based on GPL code (the linux kernel). It just mandates to open the source code and to keep it open.
Ask Google (or any big web company for that matter) if GPL means "no profit". BSD doesn't mean open code, it just means "free stuff"
The letter is one page long. Very very short read. They do not mention OPEN at all. They make a very concise statement that SOPA is bad for freedom and security of internet. That it will have a chilling effect on the next generation of entrepreneurs. Please click the link and read the letter. Your comment is just false.
If you could go back to the Cold War era and tell Western citizens that in 2011 they would all carry a device that is always on, is comprised of a microphone and a speaker and broadcast their location to central databases that archive that during several years they would tell you : "so, USSR won ?"
Well at least you have endorsement by an official and no denial by the government. I agree this is not hard evidence but that makes the Israeli hypothesis more backed-up than any other.
And scientists are of course, evidently, obviously aware of this ! The Fermi paradox is not just a SF fan theory, it is a real world problem and several hypothesis to solve it have been made. We cannot just assume that there are thousands of space-faring civilizations in the galaxy because we don't see them and we should probably be, if they exist. Several hypothesis exist : they hide, they disappear quickly, there is a predator of civilizations, etc... One of the solutions to the paradox is that there are no other civilizations and Earth is unique. It reeks anthropogeocentrism but it is not disproved as of today. So your "we're not special" is a valid hypothesis but is not a fact.
Thanks to advances in astronomy, we know that earth-sized planets orbiting in the "liquid-water zone" of their star are common. Is that enough to discredit the rare earth hypothesis ? No, scientists try to find salient features of our planet that may be plausibly uncommon, given our knowledge of the universe : active tectonics, tidally-locked huge moons and strong magnetic fields are features that are, to the extent of our very small knowledge, unique to the Earth. It is worthy of interest to see if we can prove that life could not exist on Earth without one of these elements.
I am too of the opinion that they are not unique and I suspect many of the people studying this hypothesis do as well. But science is not built on opinions.
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No way the companies would allow that to happen. OWS stands for everything they (and thus, the two existing parties) are trying to prevent.
And is that a good reason to not try ? It just means it won't be easy.
Anyway, the thing to do is to gather votes. When OWS is worth 10%, dems and reps will try to seduce them by making proposals. That's how democracy works in a two-parties system. As long as people do not care about having politicians paid by corporate interests, they have no incentive to stop. Give them this incentive, it is all it will take for them to stop.
OWS could fit in the democratic party. They could find support amongst fiscal republicans as well. Given the current level of trust in the Congress, they could win seats in some places. Yes, it would amount to a revolution in the political system, but the only non-violent way of doing such a revolution is to participate in the political life. By staying away from ballot boxes, they will have no non-violent way of getting their ideas go through.
The tea party is becoming a third one. OWS could be the fourth.
Hipsters are buying apple stuff to look cool.
Make them understand that buying Apple is uncool and destroys progress.
Hipsters stop buy Apple stuff.
I completely agree. I don't say it is right, I am saying that both sides are using similar methods and that if you are supporting one side, you can't claim it is because of the other side's methods.
Using only a list of names without any supplemental information about involvement would be pretty bad. Yeah, imagine for instance the TSA doing things like that.
Ignore them at your peril.
We don(t ignore them, but the tech world and the bean-counting world have been in a state of cold war for decades. They won't manage to stealthily come into our ranks, we prefer to create software to replace them rather than hire their kin.
And with such airport security Israel has really been safe from terrorists since the 70's. One of Schneier's point is that if you make airport even marginally harder to hit, terrorist will hit somewhere else.
I was expecting a kind of supervision, no ?
Or at least with openable cases. Have a drawer with spare parts, allow student to freely play with the hardware. Or at least have some stations that are "fair game".
Have a few stations with arduinos and basic electronics linked.
Give students a homepage with a kind of dynamic pages activated (php, python, perl, cgi, whatever)
...when they'll exist. I have been stating since the beginning of the smartphone era that I won't be interested in these beasts before they become really open. And by open, I mean that they can run packets sniffers on their GSM/3G stack (hint, Android does not allow that). Not because I want to break the securities of the network, but just so that I can check what is being sent to who and when.
I am interested in the NeoRunner but it has a few drawbacks that makes it a bit too overpriced IMHO. The mobile network is a complete loss of opportunity. If it was as open and neutral as internet, we would have incredible applications by today.
There's a caveat to this; or an exception- The world is moving AWAY from beefy laptops and TOWARDS mobile machines
But we are not the world. We are those crazy coders who need a physical keyboard with weird keys like | or } to be able to use the command line fully or to code in C. We are those strange fellows who use more applications than two (browser and Angry Birds).
The world is moving away from desktop/laptops, fine. This is the same crowd that is using Windows. I doubt that tablets and smartphones will replace development machines soon for very good reasons : big keyboards and big screens bring irreplaceable comfort. And when you have such a setting, you need a window environment designed for it. I use the keyboard, occasionally the mouse, I won't use clumsy fingers on a large screen that is outside of my arm's reach anyway. I need a different kind of interface. Just because 2% of the people need such a specific interface is not a reason to not provide it.
I doubt that they would have the production capacity to provide millions of cars every year, which would be needed at half that price. They probably just need to sell a few tens of thousands per year to be profitable. Now the world needs a new Ford to bring this to the masses.
Oppressive regimes only fall if they're forcibly removed from power, or if they decide that there's a threshold of violence they won't cross.
And you really think that the US is willing to go to the amount of violence displayed in Syria ?
Also it is interesting to note, seriously, not jokingly for once, that geeks do indeed form a community, a society. Not a secret society, but they are a group of people sharing coherent values that stems from their understanding of some technological details. It gives them power, and slowly they are becoming more prevalent in the decision structures. We are gaining effective power that does not translate to violence.
On Linux, most java developers consider that OpenJDK is the default implementation and that Sun JDK is more or less discontinued.
OpenJDK is a GPL release of Sun's code. It is the official Java (SE) implementation :
http://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/moving_to_openjdk_as_the
At least in the Land of the Free we don't kill protesters.
Luckily NDAA will soon close this loophole.
GPL is not incompatible with profit. You can sell GPLed software, Google sells Android which is based on GPL code (the linux kernel). It just mandates to open the source code and to keep it open.
Ask Google (or any big web company for that matter) if GPL means "no profit". BSD doesn't mean open code, it just means "free stuff"
English is not my native language, Indian is very hard to understand. Transcripts should be the norm
The letter is one page long. Very very short read. They do not mention OPEN at all. They make a very concise statement that SOPA is bad for freedom and security of internet. That it will have a chilling effect on the next generation of entrepreneurs. Please click the link and read the letter. Your comment is just false.
Just change the Google logo for a day with something that evokes the death of the net, and linking to informations about SOPA.
Considering that internet is #2 media in elections nowadays, this bill sounds like political suicide.
If you could go back to the Cold War era and tell Western citizens that in 2011 they would all carry a device that is always on, is comprised of a microphone and a speaker and broadcast their location to central databases that archive that during several years they would tell you : "so, USSR won ?"
Sorry about the bad translation. English is not my primary language and demonyms are bitches to memorize.
Well at least you have endorsement by an official and no denial by the government. I agree this is not hard evidence but that makes the Israeli hypothesis more backed-up than any other.
And scientists are of course, evidently, obviously aware of this ! The Fermi paradox is not just a SF fan theory, it is a real world problem and several hypothesis to solve it have been made. We cannot just assume that there are thousands of space-faring civilizations in the galaxy because we don't see them and we should probably be, if they exist. Several hypothesis exist : they hide, they disappear quickly, there is a predator of civilizations, etc... One of the solutions to the paradox is that there are no other civilizations and Earth is unique. It reeks anthropogeocentrism but it is not disproved as of today. So your "we're not special" is a valid hypothesis but is not a fact.
Thanks to advances in astronomy, we know that earth-sized planets orbiting in the "liquid-water zone" of their star are common. Is that enough to discredit the rare earth hypothesis ? No, scientists try to find salient features of our planet that may be plausibly uncommon, given our knowledge of the universe : active tectonics, tidally-locked huge moons and strong magnetic fields are features that are, to the extent of our very small knowledge, unique to the Earth. It is worthy of interest to see if we can prove that life could not exist on Earth without one of these elements.
I am too of the opinion that they are not unique and I suspect many of the people studying this hypothesis do as well. But science is not built on opinions.