Sometimes I wonder if this is exactly what companies *want*. They don't want people to use outside e-mail (especially ones running over https) because then they can't easily monitor what their staff is doing.
Yes you can. Bluecoat Systems can intercept SSL communications and output it to "Data Leakage Prevention" devices in plain text, then only pass it along if it's fine. Nobody else can really do this right now, but it's something that's hugely important in the Financial and Health industries. You can't have Joe Schmo emailing a spreadsheet of 100,000 credit card numbers or SSN's through gmail, can you?
Would this have anything to do with Firefox changing your home page to the Firefox home page by default when you upgrade? I always uncheck the box, but I'm sure most people just click through.
Many companies won't even troubleshoot your computer unless you have their stuff in it. When my IBM laptop had a memory slot go bad, the first thing they asked was if I had IBM RAM in it.
Dell may be the same way.
The whole reason they're doing this isn't so Windows can do DRM. Both SBC and Verizon are going ot be using MS software on their set top boxes to deliver IPTV. I guess they need some kind of DRM in the box. This is no different from encryption on HDMI signals from the current crop of HDTV boxes. As far as I know, nobody has turned on the encryption, but the option is there.
Actually, they tried to do this about 4 years ago with Project Pronto.
The problem was that they would invest billions of $$ on the fiber upgrades, but SBC was forced to share that with competitors. What's the point in investing billions and having your payback stolen by people who don't have to maintain the network?
They held off on the largest portion of the project until after this ruling..
You would think that that's the way it works, but it's nothing like that. My company has TONS of spare capacity on their network, and we don't lower prices.. we occasionally run promos, but that's it. We price things so we don't shoot ourselves in the foot. Why buy a 45 Mbit DS3 for $2500/month when you can buy a GigaBit connection for $2800?
Talk about retarded. If you would have read MY post, you would have seen that I mentioned marketing. With FTTP, they can easily get 1 Gbit+ to people's houses, with little or no more cost. The 30 Mbit limit is a marketing decision so they don't lose the $$ from the commercial users that pay $3000+ per month for a simple gig pipe.
I sell high bandwidth optical connections for a living.. I think I know a bit about what I'm talking about. My company raised their rates on gigabit links for just this reason, why get a DS3 when you can get a whole gig for the same price.
That's the most retarded thing I've seen in a long time. Fiber can take more than 10 Gb/sec.. The paid offering for fiber to the prem is just slow.. they don't want to cannibalize their paid commercial optical products.
You can't compare a current product offering to a something that's being tested. The marketing people haven't been involved yet.
This is not a WAN technology
Actually, yes it is. I currently sell a lot of 1 GB/sec pipes that can go up to 60 miles, and we will be selling 10 GB very soon. I know that some colleges (University of Illinois) are currently experimenting with multiple 10 GB links across 120 miles or more.
Apparently you have no idea how the phone network works. Even IF you buy local service from ATT, Verizon, etc and you're in an area where SBC is the ILEC, you're still giving money to SBC since they own the lines.
and think seriously about the consequences of scabbing.
It's not like I get a choice.. They're forcing tons of "management" people to work. They are also hiring "scabs" as you put it, but most of the people are NOT there by choice.
I'm one of the guys that gets to fill in...
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Yeah, like I said above...
I personally feel that the Union has outlived it's usefulness.. SBC pretty much gave them most of the major things they wanted. The two main sticking points are:
1: Medical Copays.. currently the Union guys don't have to pay any medical premiums, and a small copay for each visit. SBC will still pay their premiums, but raise the copays a bit.. but that's still way the hell better than the "Management" employees get.
2: Job Security.. SBC is offering any Union member a job in the same state that they currently work in if their job is "surplused". I think that 100% of people wish they had any job security, let alone that kind.
If anybody cares to read SBC's side of things, read www.sbcupdate.com . It will tell SBC's side of things.
Now I'm off to frickin' Detroit to run phone lines for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week.. thanks Union.
Not sure what you're smoking, but I've never had a key on one of my servers change unless I force it or reinstall. Also, IIRC, OpenSSH has the ability to use certificates.
SCO/Caldera alleges (Paragraph 57): âoeWhen SCO acquired the UNIX assets from Novell in 1995, it acquired rights in and to all (1) underlying, original UNIX software code developed by AT&T Bell Laboratories.â
SCO/Caldera neglects to mention that those rights had been substantially impaired before its acquisition of the ancestral Bell Labs source code. There was a legal action in 1992-1993, in which Unix Systems Laboratories and Novell (SCO/Caldera's predecessors in interest) sued various parties including the University of California at Berkeley and Berkeley Systems Design, Inc. for alleged copyright infringement, trade secret disclosures, and trademark violations with regard to the release of substantial portions of the 4.4BSD operating system[36].
The suit was settled after AT&T's request for an injunction blocking distribution of BSD was denied in terms that made it clear the judge thought BSD likely to win its defense. The University of California then threatened to countersue over license violations by AT&T and USL. It seems that from as far back as before System V Release 4 in 1985, the historical Bell Labs codebase had been incorporating large amounts of software from the BSD sources. The University's cause of action lay in the fact that AT&T, USL and Novell had routinely violated the terms of the BSD license by removing license attributions and copyrights.
The exact terms of final settlement, and much of the judicial record, were sealed at Novell's insistence. The key provisions are, however, described in Twenty Years of Berkeley Unix: From AT&T-Owned to Freely Redistributable, [McKusick99]. Only three files out of eighteen thousand in the distribution were found to be the licit property of Novell (and removed). The rest were ruled to be freely redistributable, and continue to form the basis of the open-source BSD distributions today.
Ten years ago â" at a time when Linux was in its infancy â" the courts already found the contributions of other parties to what is now UnixWare to be so great, and Novell's proprietary entitlement in the code so small, that Novell's lawyers had to settle for a minor, face-saving gesture from the University of California or walk away with nothing at all.
In the red corner, we have a 130 lb mental midget with nothing in his bag of tricks. In the blue corner, we have a 1200 lb gorilla with a nice suit on.
Let's get it.... doh, it's over.:)
You're missing the point. Voice and Video over IP require a very short delay. Cisco reccommends that even on a LAN that VoIP traffic only goes through up to 5 devices or you change jitter. It's just not gonna work over a peer to peer scheme.
Criticisms about e. asking for a free lunch, or forgetting economics 101 are missing the point: can wireless technology evolve to a point where our dependency on land-lines is greatly reduced? And can technology be created that accomodates such a world, where every computer is both a transceiver and a relay for traffic?
Ok, let's say that we can get that kind of coverage, and we can get that kind of bandwidth over wireless. Now let's add that everybody plays nice and we can have a peer to peer network that routes all of our internet/phone/video/whatever. You're forgetting that voice and video require a very short ping time. I'm not sure about you, but I don't want to wait 5 seconds for my friend in Japan to respond to my last question while my packet gets passed and routed through 300-500 nodes. Not to mention that data travels much slower through the air than over copper or fiber.
A friend of mine just got one of these.. awesome device!! The only thing keeping me from getting one to replace my regular cell is the service plan (that's right, just one!) that Voicesteam has. $40 a month for 200 anytime minutes and 1000 weekend (NOT night) minutes. If they offered a plan with more minutes for a bit more, I'd jump at it!
I've always wondered... why do the script kiddies and crackers of the world attack web sites to "tag" them. Why don't they do something useful and shut these places down for a few days at a time?!
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Sometimes I wonder if this is exactly what companies *want*. They don't want people to use outside e-mail (especially ones running over https) because then they can't easily monitor what their staff is doing.
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Yes you can. Bluecoat Systems can intercept SSL communications and output it to "Data Leakage Prevention" devices in plain text, then only pass it along if it's fine. Nobody else can really do this right now, but it's something that's hugely important in the Financial and Health industries. You can't have Joe Schmo emailing a spreadsheet of 100,000 credit card numbers or SSN's through gmail, can you?
http://www.bluecoat.com/solutions/security/ssl.ht
Would this have anything to do with Firefox changing your home page to the Firefox home page by default when you upgrade? I always uncheck the box, but I'm sure most people just click through.
Many companies won't even troubleshoot your computer unless you have their stuff in it. When my IBM laptop had a memory slot go bad, the first thing they asked was if I had IBM RAM in it. Dell may be the same way.
The whole reason they're doing this isn't so Windows can do DRM. Both SBC and Verizon are going ot be using MS software on their set top boxes to deliver IPTV. I guess they need some kind of DRM in the box.
This is no different from encryption on HDMI signals from the current crop of HDTV boxes. As far as I know, nobody has turned on the encryption, but the option is there.
Actually, they tried to do this about 4 years ago with Project Pronto.
The problem was that they would invest billions of $$ on the fiber upgrades, but SBC was forced to share that with competitors. What's the point in investing billions and having your payback stolen by people who don't have to maintain the network?
They held off on the largest portion of the project until after this ruling..
It's nice that the AG of Idaho can spell.. he signed right by the word IDADHO. And since when were the Virgin Islands a state?
You would think that that's the way it works, but it's nothing like that. My company has TONS of spare capacity on their network, and we don't lower prices.. we occasionally run promos, but that's it. We price things so we don't shoot ourselves in the foot. Why buy a 45 Mbit DS3 for $2500/month when you can buy a GigaBit connection for $2800?
Talk about retarded. If you would have read MY post, you would have seen that I mentioned marketing. With FTTP, they can easily get 1 Gbit+ to people's houses, with little or no more cost. The 30 Mbit limit is a marketing decision so they don't lose the $$ from the commercial users that pay $3000+ per month for a simple gig pipe. I sell high bandwidth optical connections for a living.. I think I know a bit about what I'm talking about. My company raised their rates on gigabit links for just this reason, why get a DS3 when you can get a whole gig for the same price.
That's the most retarded thing I've seen in a long time. Fiber can take more than 10 Gb/sec.. The paid offering for fiber to the prem is just slow.. they don't want to cannibalize their paid commercial optical products. You can't compare a current product offering to a something that's being tested. The marketing people haven't been involved yet.
This is not a WAN technology Actually, yes it is. I currently sell a lot of 1 GB/sec pipes that can go up to 60 miles, and we will be selling 10 GB very soon. I know that some colleges (University of Illinois) are currently experimenting with multiple 10 GB links across 120 miles or more.
Apparently you have no idea how the phone network works. Even IF you buy local service from ATT, Verizon, etc and you're in an area where SBC is the ILEC, you're still giving money to SBC since they own the lines.
and think seriously about the consequences of scabbing.
It's not like I get a choice.. They're forcing tons of "management" people to work. They are also hiring "scabs" as you put it, but most of the people are NOT there by choice.
Yeah, like I said above... I personally feel that the Union has outlived it's usefulness.. SBC pretty much gave them most of the major things they wanted. The two main sticking points are: 1: Medical Copays.. currently the Union guys don't have to pay any medical premiums, and a small copay for each visit. SBC will still pay their premiums, but raise the copays a bit.. but that's still way the hell better than the "Management" employees get. 2: Job Security.. SBC is offering any Union member a job in the same state that they currently work in if their job is "surplused". I think that 100% of people wish they had any job security, let alone that kind. If anybody cares to read SBC's side of things, read www.sbcupdate.com . It will tell SBC's side of things. Now I'm off to frickin' Detroit to run phone lines for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week.. thanks Union.
Not sure what you're smoking, but I've never had a key on one of my servers change unless I force it or reinstall. Also, IIRC, OpenSSH has the ability to use certificates.
I don't know how to feel right now....
Rip-proof and self-destructing seems to be the latest DRM craze.
So now we'll be forced to create backups seeing as they destroy themselves? Once they're cracked, it's all over.
From the OSI position paper:
SCO/Caldera alleges (Paragraph 57): âoeWhen SCO acquired the UNIX assets from Novell in 1995, it acquired rights in and to all (1) underlying, original UNIX software code developed by AT&T Bell Laboratories.â
SCO/Caldera neglects to mention that those rights had been substantially impaired before its acquisition of the ancestral Bell Labs source code. There was a legal action in 1992-1993, in which Unix Systems Laboratories and Novell (SCO/Caldera's predecessors in interest) sued various parties including the University of California at Berkeley and Berkeley Systems Design, Inc. for alleged copyright infringement, trade secret disclosures, and trademark violations with regard to the release of substantial portions of the 4.4BSD operating system[36].
The suit was settled after AT&T's request for an injunction blocking distribution of BSD was denied in terms that made it clear the judge thought BSD likely to win its defense. The University of California then threatened to countersue over license violations by AT&T and USL. It seems that from as far back as before System V Release 4 in 1985, the historical Bell Labs codebase had been incorporating large amounts of software from the BSD sources. The University's cause of action lay in the fact that AT&T, USL and Novell had routinely violated the terms of the BSD license by removing license attributions and copyrights.
The exact terms of final settlement, and much of the judicial record, were sealed at Novell's insistence. The key provisions are, however, described in Twenty Years of Berkeley Unix: From AT&T-Owned to Freely Redistributable, [McKusick99]. Only three files out of eighteen thousand in the distribution were found to be the licit property of Novell (and removed). The rest were ruled to be freely redistributable, and continue to form the basis of the open-source BSD distributions today.
Ten years ago â" at a time when Linux was in its infancy â" the courts already found the contributions of other parties to what is now UnixWare to be so great, and Novell's proprietary entitlement in the code so small, that Novell's lawyers had to settle for a minor, face-saving gesture from the University of California or walk away with nothing at all.
While I hate to attack somebody personally, doesn't this guy just look like a tool?!
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In the red corner, we have a 130 lb mental midget with nothing in his bag of tricks. In the blue corner, we have a 1200 lb gorilla with a nice suit on. .... doh, it's over. :)
Let's get it
You're missing the point. Voice and Video over IP require a very short delay. Cisco reccommends that even on a LAN that VoIP traffic only goes through up to 5 devices or you change jitter. It's just not gonna work over a peer to peer scheme.
Criticisms about e. asking for a free lunch, or forgetting economics 101 are missing the point: can wireless technology evolve to a point where our dependency on land-lines is greatly reduced? And can technology be created that accomodates such a world, where every computer is both a transceiver and a relay for traffic? Ok, let's say that we can get that kind of coverage, and we can get that kind of bandwidth over wireless. Now let's add that everybody plays nice and we can have a peer to peer network that routes all of our internet/phone/video/whatever. You're forgetting that voice and video require a very short ping time. I'm not sure about you, but I don't want to wait 5 seconds for my friend in Japan to respond to my last question while my packet gets passed and routed through 300-500 nodes. Not to mention that data travels much slower through the air than over copper or fiber.
I work for SBC, and I have to say that with this, I'm kinda ashamed of that fact. *sigh*
If only we can get this over here!!
A friend of mine just got one of these.. awesome device!! The only thing keeping me from getting one to replace my regular cell is the service plan (that's right, just one!) that Voicesteam has. $40 a month for 200 anytime minutes and 1000 weekend (NOT night) minutes. If they offered a plan with more minutes for a bit more, I'd jump at it!
I've always wondered... why do the script kiddies and crackers of the world attack web sites to "tag" them. Why don't they do something useful and shut these places down for a few days at a time?!