Given that my kids (under 18's) d/l far more music than I might (and I expect it is that way in a LOT of households), let me just say: Are you nuts? Stark raving mad? Several fries short of a Happy Meal?
Even if I was buying into this completely, and was ready to send in my notarized form, there is no possible way these criminals would get my kids info. No way, no how.
The only possible explanation is, these people are psychotic. Or maybe pod people. They sure aren't human anymore.
Now I have to listen to the CD in 2 song chunks as I drive back and forth to work
No. Now you have to take it back as a 'broken' CD. By keeping it, you are reinforcing their premise that the public has no problem with these pseudo-CD's.
[previously] I feel that allowing kids access to things like Kazaa, when not used for government subversion or something OVERTLY illegal (the illegality of downloading songs, many of which are public domain, has not been demonstrated to my satisfaction) is okay.
And many of which are not public domain. (Probably most that high school kids would listen to). So a little bit illegal is OK?
But many of them do at the district I work for, and I know that this problem is much, much worse at other districts. At one in particular, everyone from the Superintendent to the Janitor downloads music...
Jebus! Are you people running a school or a music library? I'm damn glad you don't work in my kids school district.
Most High Schools use proxies...if the kids are running Kazaa at school and using a proxy, then it would be unethical and highly illegal to divulge their names to a non-law-enforcement-entity such as the RIAA. Anyway, an intelligent administrator would flush their logs every day.
errrmmm....downloading music at school? Having PC's available for kids that have:
A) KaZaa loaded B) a high speed connection C) a CD burner D) open P2P ports E) the spare time during the school day to do all that = 1 ex-principal, network administrator, and probably school board.
Completely disregarding the potential illegalities of file "sharing", misusing that many resources (including the kids classroom time) is seriously out of bounds.
I gaurantee, at some level in your development world, there is *somebody* on call
Actually, not really. Of our small section of 7 developers, the only one 'on call' is the director of development.
The DBA (Oracle and SQLServer), the network director, the Linux admin, the Windows admin, and the general helpdesk guy are on call, but none of the developers. And yes, we do have several customer facing, 24/7 applications running.
If they use the new Office and want to use the DRM they MUST use windows server 2003. You can't use Red Hat, NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, SuSe, Solaris, (insert OS here...).
A better way to say that might be:
If they use the new Office and want to use the DRM they MUST use at least one windows server 2003. You can use RedHat, *BSD, whatever for the rest of your operation.
Many enlightened companies do this. Rather than relying on just one, they use a mix of tools to accomplish whatever it is they do.
Even if the developers of a competing office suite could figure out how to get their software to open an Office 2003 document, doing so would be a DMCA violation, since they'd be bypassing an anti-circumvention device.
Hold on a bit. Does this article say that any and every Office2003 doc can only be opened on a system connected to a Win Server2003 LAN?
No, it doesn't.
Only those docs which the auther wants locked down, for their own personal reasons. "But rights-protected documents created in Office 2003 can be manipulated only in Office 2003."
Similarly, if a document (any doc, from any program) is encrypted, breaking that encryption would presumably be a 'violation' of the DMCA.
Let's not jump to conclusions here.
(But of course, actually reading the article is a bit beyond/. sensibilities)
I don't really see how you can be part of the professional world, without carrying a cell phone, a pager or any other such communication device?
You need to broaden your thoughts, my son. As a developer, WTF does it matter if I fix the bug tommorrow instead of 0 dark thirty tonight?
And you know the way to minimize work-stopping bugs? Design, code, TEST. Test some more. Fix the things you find. Then test again. Build applications correctly from the start, and you won't GET those 2 AM calls.
Granted... when you need the damned things... they never seem to work.
Jeffrey Lee Parson, 18, of Hopkins, Minn., known online as "teekid."
Could this be our little perp?
(from the TrojanForge.NET archive:
"Teekid
im looking for a verfy tiny irc bot that all it does is have a web download , and a very stable udp feature , thats it:) possibly in asm or c , like evilbot would be good , thats what im using now , but if you have more than 100 or so in 1 chan a bunch ping out , and it has some un-needed features (the icmp is shit)
possibly open source would be good too:)"
and
[from the Google cache of t33kid.com]
"my little p2p worm spreads via kazaa and imesh, downloads a file from web. No biggie."
The actual page has ben.....taken down, shall we say.
1) Does this kid need to learn his lession in jail?
No, This kid is young. He's stupid.
I disagree. He does need to go to jail, if found guilty. Penalties for a crime are not only punishment for the convicted, but hopefully a deterrent to future potential criminals.
I'm sure he didn't do this realizing that he'd be headed to jail in a few months (if proven guilty).
So he's been living in a cave? (well...maybe his parents basement). With all the publicity going around, and a couple of high profile cases caught and jailed...I'm sure he knew. Probably just so arrogant that he thought he'd never be caught.
someone came along and leaned up on it wrong and it stopped working. I'd be pissed at the manufacturer, not so much the leaner (who is laying on the ground with a bloody nose by now).
Evidently you do advocate some punishment for the 'leaner/virus writer'.
Running a car into another object, espically a car moving the the opposite direction, is highly likely to cause a catastrophic failure that often results in serious injury or death. This is a known flaw, it isn't like it is a mystery what happens when cars crash.
This is called physics. It's not a 'known flaw'. Sure, you could build passenger cars to NASCAR standards. And no one could afford to buy or operate them. Add a race-car style frame and rollcage? Add weight and drop the gas mileage. 8 point safety harness? Too complex. No one would use them.
Know how to make cars really safe? Remove all the driver side airbags and safety harnesses. Weld a solid steel 6" spike to the center of the steering wheel. Poof...everyone drives a LOT more carefully. And if you do crash, you can only do it once.
Our peaceful little IT section got invaded during a rebuild upstairs. 2 women in nearby cubes would call each other, and talk. On speakerphone. Loudly. As my little domain was exactly equidistant from these two harpies....I got both sides of the conversation, in stereo.
Yelling would only get *my* blood pressure up, so I endured until bliss was restored, and they moved back upstairs.
Similarly, a woman of foreign descent would bring in lunch. And cook it in the microwave. And eat it at her cube. Pseudo kimchee is NOT a pleasant odour.
They don't care that they can't see or change the source code to their current programs. They don't care that they don't actually own the software, as long as they only have to pay for it once. They don't care that most of their software comes from a single source. In short, they don't care about the fundamental issues behind open source software at all. But they do care about price, quality, availability, security, simplicity, and interoperability. Supply these, and open source will be the software choice.
This is the kind of thing that I feel is wrong wiht the so-called music of today! So many of the bands are 'fabricated' by the industry...made to look sexy for the masses...hand fed songs using studio tricks to make them sound passable...
Today? Go back about 40 years. The Monkees of the mid 60's were the same. A TV show that generated the fabricated band.
1. Steal his car one night
2. Drive around like a madman for 30 minutes
3. Park it back in his driveway
4. Watch the hijinks ensue when the police cart him away.
Be sure to wear gloves and leave no DNA. He'll never be able to prove it wasn't him.
So, I not only want *detectors*, I want *governors*.
Presumably, you already have a 'governor. It's called your brain. This *brain* controls your right foot. This *right foot* being the appendage most commonly used to control the speed of a motor vehicle.
In case you don't actually have one of these *brains*, I suggest you go get one.
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Each infringing household member will have to send a completed, notarized amnesty form to the RIAA, with a copy of a photo ID
Given that my kids (under 18's) d/l far more music than I might (and I expect it is that way in a LOT of households), let me just say:
Are you nuts? Stark raving mad? Several fries short of a Happy Meal?
Even if I was buying into this completely, and was ready to send in my notarized form, there is no possible way these criminals would get my kids info. No way, no how.
The only possible explanation is, these people are psychotic. Or maybe pod people. They sure aren't human anymore.
How 'bout we give you amnesty if you, collectively and individually, admit to illegal price fixing, and actually give us our money back?
Did anyone sign up for that? And actually get any money?
This is no better than a mugging.
"Gimme all your stuff, and I won't kill you (financially). Oh, and we'll be watching you. Forever."
Get caught stealing 1/2 billion dollars, and no one went to jail? And the fine is 1/3 of the take? And they want to screw us?
WTF is that about?
We must encourage the development of high-end fusion generating stations
First, you have to make fusion work. Just once.
+1 Interesting? Who's smoking the crack out there?
Now I have to listen to the CD in 2 song chunks as I drive back and forth to work
No. Now you have to take it back as a 'broken' CD. By keeping it, you are reinforcing their premise that the public has no problem with these pseudo-CD's.
[previously]
I feel that allowing kids access to things like Kazaa, when not used for government subversion or something OVERTLY illegal (the illegality of downloading songs, many of which are public domain, has not been demonstrated to my satisfaction) is okay.
And many of which are not public domain. (Probably most that high school kids would listen to).
So a little bit illegal is OK?
But many of them do at the district I work for, and I know that this problem is much, much worse at other districts. At one in particular, everyone from the Superintendent to the Janitor downloads music...
Jebus! Are you people running a school or a music library? I'm damn glad you don't work in my kids school district.
Most High Schools use proxies...if the kids are running Kazaa at school and using a proxy, then it would be unethical and highly illegal to divulge their names to a non-law-enforcement-entity such as the RIAA. Anyway, an intelligent administrator would flush their logs every day.
errrmmm....downloading music at school?
Having PC's available for kids that have:
A) KaZaa loaded
B) a high speed connection
C) a CD burner
D) open P2P ports
E) the spare time during the school day to do all that
= 1 ex-principal, network administrator, and probably school board.
Completely disregarding the potential illegalities of file "sharing", misusing that many resources (including the kids classroom time) is seriously out of bounds.
I gaurantee, at some level in your development world, there is *somebody* on call
Actually, not really. Of our small section of 7 developers, the only one 'on call' is the director of development.
The DBA (Oracle and SQLServer), the network director, the Linux admin, the Windows admin, and the general helpdesk guy are on call, but none of the developers. And yes, we do have several customer facing, 24/7 applications running.
If they use the new Office and want to use the DRM they MUST use windows server 2003. You can't use Red Hat, NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, SuSe, Solaris, (insert OS here...).
A better way to say that might be:
If they use the new Office and want to use the DRM they MUST use at least one windows server 2003. You can use RedHat, *BSD, whatever for the rest of your operation.
Many enlightened companies do this. Rather than relying on just one, they use a mix of tools to accomplish whatever it is they do.
I thought monoculture was a bad word around here?
The DRM features in the new Office software may, depending on what the sender sets, prevent the required things from being done.
Or, it could ensure that the required things are done.
Cuts both ways.
Even if the developers of a competing office suite could figure out how to get their software to open an Office 2003 document, doing so would be a DMCA violation, since they'd be bypassing an anti-circumvention device.
/. sensibilities)
Hold on a bit. Does this article say that any and every Office2003 doc can only be opened on a system connected to a Win Server2003 LAN?
No, it doesn't.
Only those docs which the auther wants locked down, for their own personal reasons.
"But rights-protected documents created in Office 2003 can be manipulated only in Office 2003."
Similarly, if a document (any doc, from any program) is encrypted, breaking that encryption would presumably be a 'violation' of the DMCA.
Let's not jump to conclusions here.
(But of course, actually reading the article is a bit beyond
I don't really see how you can be part of the professional world, without carrying a cell phone, a pager or any other such communication device?
You need to broaden your thoughts, my son. As a developer, WTF does it matter if I fix the bug tommorrow instead of 0 dark thirty tonight?
And you know the way to minimize work-stopping bugs?
Design, code, TEST. Test some more. Fix the things you find. Then test again. Build applications correctly from the start, and you won't GET those 2 AM calls.
Granted... when you need the damned things... they never seem to work.
Then why bother?
Because it sells newspapers. No more, no less.
But he adds that consumers will have to be convinced that the technology is useful.
How about stop all the crap 'features' that people have to be convinced are useful, and just get the damn things to work...
(blissfully, I don't really care, because I remain cellphone anchor-free)
Jeffrey Lee Parson, 18, of Hopkins, Minn., known online as "teekid."
:) possibly in asm or c , like evilbot would be good , thats what im using now , but if you have more than 100 or so in 1 chan a bunch ping out , and it has some un-needed features (the icmp is shit) :)"
Could this be our little perp?
(from the TrojanForge.NET archive:
"Teekid
im looking for a verfy tiny irc bot that all it does is have a web download , and a very stable udp feature , thats it
possibly open source would be good too
and
[from the Google cache of t33kid.com]
"my little p2p worm spreads via kazaa and imesh, downloads a file from web. No biggie."
The actual page has ben.....taken down, shall we say.
1) Does this kid need to learn his lession in jail?
No, This kid is young. He's stupid.
I disagree. He does need to go to jail, if found guilty. Penalties for a crime are not only punishment for the convicted, but hopefully a deterrent to future potential criminals.
I'm sure he didn't do this realizing that he'd be headed to jail in a few months (if proven guilty).
So he's been living in a cave? (well...maybe his parents basement). With all the publicity going around, and a couple of high profile cases caught and jailed...I'm sure he knew. Probably just so arrogant that he thought he'd never be caught.
someone came along and leaned up on it wrong and it stopped working. I'd be pissed at the manufacturer, not so much the leaner (who is laying on the ground with a bloody nose by now).
Evidently you do advocate some punishment for the 'leaner/virus writer'.
Running a car into another object, espically a car moving the the opposite direction, is highly likely to cause a catastrophic failure that often results in serious injury or death. This is a known flaw, it isn't like it is a mystery what happens when cars crash.
This is called physics. It's not a 'known flaw'.
Sure, you could build passenger cars to NASCAR standards. And no one could afford to buy or operate them. Add a race-car style frame and rollcage? Add weight and drop the gas mileage. 8 point safety harness? Too complex. No one would use them.
Know how to make cars really safe? Remove all the driver side airbags and safety harnesses. Weld a solid steel 6" spike to the center of the steering wheel. Poof...everyone drives a LOT more carefully. And if you do crash, you can only do it once.
1. No smells
2. No sounds
Our peaceful little IT section got invaded during a rebuild upstairs. 2 women in nearby cubes would call each other, and talk. On speakerphone. Loudly. As my little domain was exactly equidistant from these two harpies....I got both sides of the conversation, in stereo.
Yelling would only get *my* blood pressure up, so I endured until bliss was restored, and they moved back upstairs.
Similarly, a woman of foreign descent would bring in lunch. And cook it in the microwave. And eat it at her cube.
Pseudo kimchee is NOT a pleasant odour.
Again...no smells, no sounds
They don't care that they can't see or change the source code to their current programs. They don't care that they don't actually own the software, as long as they only have to pay for it once. They don't care that most of their software comes from a single source. In short, they don't care about the fundamental issues behind open source software at all. But they do care about price, quality, availability, security, simplicity, and interoperability. Supply these, and open source will be the software choice.
Truer words were never spoken.
I'll believe it after FORD endorses an electrical car,
You mean like this one?
This is the kind of thing that I feel is wrong wiht the so-called music of today! So many of the bands are 'fabricated' by the industry...made to look sexy for the masses...hand fed songs using studio tricks to make them sound passable...
Today? Go back about 40 years. The Monkees of the mid 60's were the same. A TV show that generated the fabricated band.
5. Get to console his goodlooking S.O. (PROFIT!)
Piss him off!
1. Steal his car one night
2. Drive around like a madman for 30 minutes
3. Park it back in his driveway
4. Watch the hijinks ensue when the police cart him away.
Be sure to wear gloves and leave no DNA. He'll never be able to prove it wasn't him.
So, I not only want *detectors*, I want *governors*.
Presumably, you already have a 'governor. It's called your brain. This *brain* controls your right foot. This *right foot* being the appendage most commonly used to control the speed of a motor vehicle.
In case you don't actually have one of these *brains*, I suggest you go get one.
Today's Monday. Is Monday a 1 or a 0?
Monday is definately a zero.
"Why is it that we can post the directions for how to properly murder someone or build a bomb"
Actually, it appears you can't.
See Sherman Austin's recent sentencing, in part from putting up links to bomb making sites.