But then, we can only look for means of communications that we 1) know about, and 2) have the technology to receive. Isn't it better to look "just in case". And what if c _is_ the limit?
Also, remember that much RF is "incidental" radiation as a side-effect of the normal operation of equipment. For example, any half-decent spectrum analyzer will find significant energy at 133Mhz, 266Mhz, and anywhere from 1GHZ to 3GHZ in the vicinity of your PC. BR>
Maybe the ETs on Sirius saying right now Must be another great article posted on/., look at the spikes on the graph!
So what are you looking for, a hot babe for a night or
some geek-chick to support you for the next forty years?
And I can assure you, having inspected the current crop
of cheerleaders at my 30th Homecoming Reunion, the babe quotient has gone way up
since the early 70s.
What TVGuide online provides is not so much the content, but the organization of the content. There are 100 or so cable channels, and it wouldn't be that hard to list them.
But TVGuide let's the user specify a zip code, and further a provider within that zip code, and then displays a customized channel listing.
While these are all "facts", I'm just not sure (I'll hide behind the IANAL) where this would fall in the legal arena.
Well, if they wanted to, TVGuide could publish their listings as graphics, instead of parse-able HTML.
True, if something is never published (made accessible), I'm not sure if copyright even applies.
The point I wanted to make was this: Just because TVG (or whomever) makes content available on the net, does not mean that they surrender their copyrights by doing so.
My partners and I spend $US30 per month for our website, hosted by pair.com. I'm not sure, depending on your usage, if you would need separate processors for web, search, etc.
Just because material is published on an accessible medium, does not mean that it is not copyrighted. I don't know if what TV Guide puts on the web is copyrighted or not, basically I was being cautious.
1. I wouldn't start from Install, I'd leave that for day 4 or 5, just start
an install on a spare machine and show them how really boring it is.
2. Kids of that age aren't patient. They're not willing to wait hours (or
even measurable minutes) without feedback (unlike my undergraduate days, when a
four hour turn-around on our Fortran compiles were considered good).
3. Expose them to a lot, not just various *nix, but entirely different OSes,
like BE. I don't think in a week I'd get hung up on the differences between
Linux and BSD, I'd show them just one (preferably a user-friendly one).
4. I would show a GUI first, since they're likely to feel at home there
first, but I'd also expose them to the command line (in whatever OS).
5. View the week as an opportunity to expose the students to a wide
variety of things, don't spend too much time on any one topic. Give them a list
of topics for further exploration, as their interests take them.
I guess it would be too easy (and probably a copyright
violation) to just scrape the info off of
TV Guide and publish it in some kind of XML format?
OTOH, maybe an application bundled with the PVR could do
the searching, for personal use, customized for one's own location, rather than
essentially recreating the entire TV Guide database.
As a native of WV (we both know the real state name is "West By God Virginia", but that's too long for Slashdot), I'm glad to hear that. My "backwater" comment was a bit of a troll.
I think once WV gets some infrastructure in place (subsidized aDSL in every phone exchange would be a great place to start), geeks and entrepreneurs might discover that telecommuting from a cabin where the deer come to your doorstep every morning is not all that bad a life style.
Actually, WV stayed pretty much out of the Civil War, the Allegheny Mountains that form the border between WV and VA formed a natural barrier to troop movement.
Except for the Eastern Panhandle, with Harpers Ferry at the very tip and just a few miles from major battle sites like Antietam and Gettysburg.
IANAL, but there are a number of things that MS did that skirt the edges (at least) of what I heard about in B-School back in the early 70s.
Unlawful product tie-ins: Requiring a customer to purchase Product B in order to purchase Product A. To my NAL mind, requiring the purchase of IE in order to purchase a Windows OS violates this anti-trust principle. That MS wiggled out of this by claiming that the "browser" was an integral part of the "OS" is more a reflection on the technical competence of the court, than the technical realities.
As *nix and other OSes have demonstrated, the browser need not be an integral part of the OS.
Requiring a vendor to install an OS on every unit sold, even if the customer requests a different, or no, OS, would again appear to be an antitrust violation, but again , IANAL.
IANAL, but my fraternity brother Charlie is... and knowing Charlie, it was probably at a cheap Holiday Inn Express, with a... well, never mind.
WTF, Is Microsoft intending to take on Apple, IBM, Xerox and every other interface company that uses the term Windows? How about Andersen, Pella, and Tru-Valu?
Next, will Micro$oft copyright Door or Lintel?
Doesn't the term "window" go back to Xerox PARC, the Apple Lisa, etc.? Or maybe even earlier?
the floppy is still king. It's the easiest way for students to take work home (if they have a computer at home), or from a classroom to an open lab, or from one computer to another when the first one dies.
It's self-sufficient (works even if the network is down), ridiculously inexpensive, and requires no special instruction other than File | Save As... or File | Open...
Plus the faculty member can take the exam disks home for grading.
But then, we can only look for means of communications that we 1) know about, and 2) have the technology to receive. Isn't it better to look "just in case". And what if c _is_ the limit?
/., look at the spikes on the graph!
Also, remember that much RF is "incidental" radiation as a side-effect of the normal operation of equipment. For example, any half-decent spectrum analyzer will find significant energy at 133Mhz, 266Mhz, and anywhere from 1GHZ to 3GHZ in the vicinity of your PC.
BR> Maybe the ETs on Sirius saying right now Must be another great article posted on
Directional or not, microwave is radio (electromagnetic radiation), as is everything from ELF used to communicate with submarines to light.
Practical microwave for communications is always directional, unless you're setting up a "cloud" for your WiFi network.
BR>
So what are you looking for, a hot babe for a night or some geek-chick to support you for the next forty years?
And I can assure you, having inspected the current crop of cheerleaders at my 30th Homecoming Reunion, the babe quotient has gone way up since the early 70s.
What TVGuide online provides is not so much the content, but the organization of the content. There are 100 or so cable channels, and it wouldn't be that hard to list them.
But TVGuide let's the user specify a zip code, and further a provider within that zip code, and then displays a customized channel listing. While these are all "facts", I'm just not sure (I'll hide behind the IANAL) where this would fall in the legal arena.
Regards,
Dave
Well, if they wanted to, TVGuide could publish their listings as graphics, instead of parse-able HTML.
True, if something is never published (made accessible), I'm not sure if copyright even applies.
The point I wanted to make was this: Just because TVG (or whomever) makes content available on the net, does not mean that they surrender their copyrights by doing so.
My partners and I spend $US30 per month for our website, hosted by pair.com. I'm not sure, depending on your usage, if you would need separate processors for web, search, etc.
Just because material is published on an accessible medium, does not mean that it is not copyrighted. I don't know if what TV Guide puts on the web is copyrighted or not, basically I was being cautious.
What a wonderful opportunity!
1. I wouldn't start from Install, I'd leave that for day 4 or 5, just start an install on a spare machine and show them how really boring it is.
2. Kids of that age aren't patient. They're not willing to wait hours (or even measurable minutes) without feedback (unlike my undergraduate days, when a four hour turn-around on our Fortran compiles were considered good).
3. Expose them to a lot, not just various *nix, but entirely different OSes, like BE. I don't think in a week I'd get hung up on the differences between Linux and BSD, I'd show them just one (preferably a user-friendly one).
4. I would show a GUI first, since they're likely to feel at home there first, but I'd also expose them to the command line (in whatever OS).
5. View the week as an opportunity to expose the students to a wide variety of things, don't spend too much time on any one topic. Give them a list of topics for further exploration, as their interests take them.
6. Have a good sense of humor.
OTOH, maybe an application bundled with the PVR could do the searching, for personal use, customized for one's own location, rather than essentially recreating the entire TV Guide database.
As a native of WV (we both know the real state name is "West By God Virginia", but that's too long for Slashdot), I'm glad to hear that. My "backwater" comment was a bit of a troll.
I think once WV gets some infrastructure in place (subsidized aDSL in every phone exchange would be a great place to start), geeks and entrepreneurs might discover that telecommuting from a cabin where the deer come to your doorstep every morning is not all that bad a life style.
Isn't that what IANAL means anyway? [G]
/. If we really were lawyers, we'd be posting on lawyersRus.com.
/. is too US-centric.
If all of us non-lawyers didn't have opinions, we wouldn't be posting to
It's the same kind of CYA statement as "Closed Course, Professional Driver, Do Not Drive Like Michael Schumacher On Your Way Home From Work"
Moderators: Note how I cleverly used an F1 driver instead of, say, Tony Stewart, to quiet those who say that
Actually, WV stayed pretty much out of the Civil War, the Allegheny Mountains that form the border between WV and VA formed a natural barrier to troop movement.
Except for the Eastern Panhandle, with Harpers Ferry at the very tip and just a few miles from major battle sites like Antietam and Gettysburg.
IANAL, but there are a number of things that MS did that skirt the edges (at least) of what I heard about in B-School back in the early 70s. Unlawful product tie-ins: Requiring a customer to purchase Product B in order to purchase Product A. To my NAL mind, requiring the purchase of IE in order to purchase a Windows OS violates this anti-trust principle. That MS wiggled out of this by claiming that the "browser" was an integral part of the "OS" is more a reflection on the technical competence of the court, than the technical realities. As *nix and other OSes have demonstrated, the browser need not be an integral part of the OS.
Requiring a vendor to install an OS on every unit sold, even if the customer requests a different, or no, OS, would again appear to be an antitrust violation, but again , IANAL.
Massachusetts is considered a high tech haven, West Virginia a low tech backwater. I wonder what local politics led to these decisions.
IANAL, but my fraternity brother Charlie is... and knowing Charlie, it was probably at a cheap Holiday Inn Express, with a... well, never mind.
WTF, Is Microsoft intending to take on Apple, IBM, Xerox and every other interface company that uses the term Windows? How about Andersen, Pella, and Tru-Valu?
Next, will Micro$oft copyright Door or Lintel? Doesn't the term "window" go back to Xerox PARC, the Apple Lisa, etc.? Or maybe even earlier?
It's self-sufficient (works even if the network is down), ridiculously inexpensive, and requires no special instruction other than File | Save As... or File | Open...
Plus the faculty member can take the exam disks home for grading.