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How Much Do You Pay to Host Your Website?
DosGusanos asks: "I was curious how much people around the U.S. and around the world pay for hosting. Obviously size in cabinets/rack units/square feet, included features such as bandwidth, UPS/generator, management, etc. factor in. The configuration I am particularly interested in is three machines, one www, one search, and one database. The machines would be hooked up to a T1 and networked to one another over Ethernet. Anyone paying for colo or hosting in this same ballpark? How happy/upset are you with your provider?"
...about 5 years ago. Never paid a nickel since.
"How happy/upset are you with your provider?"
Two words: Rackspace Rules
It's obvious by the way this quesiton is framed, you just want the dirt cheapest hosting there is. C'mon slashdot, let's try posting a decent story other than where to find the cheapest bandwidth (and probably on the shittiest backbone).
I get DSL through Speakeasy and they allow hosting of Web sites. I pay $160/month for 4 static IPs and 768Kbps SDSL. Medium speed hosting and I host dozens of Web sites off my connection. Great deal!
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But I've heard to watch out for places that charge too much extra for excessive bandwidth. A website becoming suddenly very popular has resulted in extremely large fees for overbandwidth use.
But like I said, I have no experience with this.
It's $20/month for 200MB, no set up and the first month is free. I know about them because their service works with Andromeda.
They're good guys.
Here's what I do: Bitty Browser & Andromeda
...we'll take the best of the ones offered and link them in a /. story to see how they do under load.
At my last job, we had similar to what you're looking for and paid $895 w/ 2 year contract. It was just outside a small city, and location can change price a lot. It was nice having our servers locally, and we got good service too!
"Are you on some kind of medication?"
"No"
"Well, you should be."
--Bean
I use Pro Hosters and they are great. No, I don't work for them and they don't pay me to endorse them. My hosting is fast and is never down. They host on many different servers (cluster hosting i think they call it) so they are never down. They fun *NIX servers and will change or install anything you want. Good stuff, I hope this helps.
I don't keep a lid on my coffee so when I walk around I look busy -me
It's me! Just plop apache on my BSD machine that sits on my DSL (speakeasy rocks)
As for my company's colo? They don't suck, and it's a company... they could pay $1k/month and not miss it.
Rack Shack (http://www.rackshack.net/) has always provided us with excellent prices and friendly support. They even helped us do load balancing on a sunday night in the early AM prior to big launch. I highly recommend them.
And no - I don't work for them...
Check out epinions.com for other people's opinions on hosting providers.
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Same thing I pay for my high speed internet connection. In fact, it's the same bill....
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If you only want to use a shared dual T1, I don't think you need three machines. One good machine with a better internet connection would be a much better configuration for most applications. Space is expensive at most hosters.
Jan
My site is located on my box (as in I own the box, not my employer) which is located at work.
My connection? A dual T-1 connection provided by the State of Washington Educational Network.
We have 3 servers (web, database, media) that we own and colo at a facility nearby. Most of our bill is bandwidth (we do 300GB a month sometimes), but total including the rackspace (6U's) we pay about $1200. Our host has redundent uplinks and a great facility, and we've had about 20 minutes of total outage in 18 months there.
Dude, three machines with only a T-1 to fill? Unless you are planning to use Windows, buy yourself a slightly manly machine and only pay for hosting a single box, add a failover spare if it is a critical operation and pocket the difference.
Very happy, because I *am* my own provider. I co-own a small webhoster :)
but, Webhostingtalk's website is basically a forum with user reviews, recommendations, and gripes dedicated to exactly the questions you seek answers too ;)
well im no longer setting up dot com ecom sites... but some prices from back in tha day for comparison:
'99 Exodus: 1 rack in a shared cage $900/mo. Bandwidth: $950/Mb/mo.
'00 Qwest: full locked cabinet $800/mo. Bandwidth: $800/Mb/mo.
Just some prices I remember from then... would really like to hear what these same things are going for right now...
I find the people at ElHost to be very flexible, and have very reasonable rates. I have all my hosting there. They've set up dedicated MySQL DBs, have lots of online management features, and even set up remote SSH for me!
When I lived in the UK I used Nildram Internet - http://www.nildram.net. This is going to sound like a commercial but I'm a little biased because I used to work there. :)
I paid 150 pounds (about $225) per year for 25Mb of personal web space and a dialup account. On the business end I paid 30 pounds (about $50) per quarter for 10Mb of web space, plus it was 10 pounds ($14) per quarter for the domain name. A little more expensive than some, cheaper than others. The service was excellent - the company network is controlled by someone who really knows what he is doing.
It pays to shop around, whilst you might pay less for one provider the service may really suck. I suggest you have a look at some of the many web sites that do comparisons of ISP's, Netcraft is a good start, http://www.netcraft.com.
Hope this helps!
of course, I host http://comofazer.net in brasil. it actually costs R$ 35,00 for a hundred megs, with mysql, PHP, Perl and other goodies with 3 OC3 links to the web. not bad. and I know the ppl that work there. I worked for the company.
knowing the ppl who take care of the server your sites runs on, the ppl who backs-up your data is important. at for me is.
What ? Me, worry ?
We colo for 4 units of rackspace, connected to dual redudant DS3s for $240/month. Right now we only have one server in it, but plan to add anther early next year. Because we have a close relationship with the ISP, we don't have a monthly throughput cap.
I pay 1000CDN for burstable T1 (billing is adjusted based on bw usage).. i've spiked above what im paying for a few months, but they only increase billing if two months in a row.. i had 3 hours of downtime this past year, and it was because of the bell t1 circuit that was installed... otherwise worldcom has been perfect, and i would recommend them.
What, you mean besides the $10 a year it costs me to keep the domain registered on the web server in a switch closet at work?
I also share 4 1U machines and a UPS colo'd in a facility that provides an unmetered 5Mbit connection (provided over ethernet) for about $180/mo per machine.
On top of that, I split the costs on a data center which has 2 regular old T1s and a whole fuckton of servers, since it's our space, and the Ts run about $1500/mo.
I put everything I have to say in the Comment box on SlashDot.
Asking hosting prices is in clear violation of the DMCA according to price copyright laws. Cease and desist, our lawyers are being notified.
The only experience I've had with web hosting is my small personal website and a few associated mailing lists, nothing to the extent it sounds that you're looking for. I will say, however, that there is a lot of _bad_ hosts out there -- and once you get in with one they can cause you no end of grief. Ever try to fight someone for control of a domain name? Two hosts that I've used (and am using currently) for my own small purposes are http://www.jatol.com and http://www.techark.com. There were cheaper hosts, but these both had packages that suited my purposes and have shown me good customer service.
I like them a lot. $100 / month for a dedicated server that's a 1ghz duron with 512 meg of ram and 60 gig hard drive. That's more than enough power for the sites I host. For $1000/month with them, I could get a site that can't be slashdotted.
The downside is support. They only have a mail ticketing system, and you're pretty much left to handle your own problems, but that's okay. I pretty much considered it a learning experience installing / configuring my own BIND, Apache, Mysql, and GD.
The best part of this is that they include 400gig/month in bandwidth to use. It would take some serious bandwidth to suck all that up. It's burstable too.
FYI they're based in Texas. If you're looking for discounted hosting, go for it!
Of course, don't cry to me if you run a commerce site with them. It's my belief that any site that's a breadwinner for a company should run at a place that has 24/7 support. A ticketing system is fine, just make sure there's always someone there to answer it.
Overall, I like them. Cheap enough to keep me happy, and it's my own machine with root so I can install/config and run whatever I want.
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Speak very, very kindly to the network guys at your place of work.
No - very very kindly.
Generally they'll have more bandwidth that they need. And if they've got a Packeteer or a FlowFusion, they can let you have the remainder of the bandwidth that they aren't using. The way I see it, is that any bits on an E1 that aren't being used is money being wasted.
Obviously, it goes without saying that spam, warez, and pr0n is a no-no.
But if they're cool, they may well let you sneak in a few boxes.
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Half Size of a rack
10 MBit/s
as many Servers as you can fit in.
for 2313.00/Mt. CHF and it just's rocks.
Eryxma Networks really has done a great job for me. They use GNU/Linux servers and are dirt cheap (right now 1GB of storage and 50GB of transfer for 3 bucks/month).
the service has been great. the ceo even gave me his AIM screenname. I recommend them highly.
What comes first, finding a teacher or becoming a student?
I've been using ServePath (www.servepath.com)
I have a couple of dedicated servers with them and their prices are great. They have UPS/Generator, and I can even remotely power cycle my box with a web site. They have a cool site too that tells me how much transfer I've used and that good stuff.
They're located in SanFran too, so they're pretty well connected. I heard that's like the best place in the US to host a box.
I'd recommend them to anyone. They do colo's too.
I know I'm happy when I have a 140+ day uptime.
Later.
I haven't used them, but I hear good things about Ethernet Wide Area Networks - they charge $40 per 1U.
Writers imply. Readers infer.
I pay $18/year for a shared hosting at jiffynet. When it works, it is too nice.. But that doesn't happen all the time! BTW, there are lots of "companies" providing shared hosting at this price range, if you don't mind about the downtimes, it may be ok for you (cpanel and OC4 seem to be the standard for this class of hosting).
We pay roughly 6,000 per year. This includes the software, the hardware, the bandwidth and the service. (This is through http://www.ezboard.com) We have been very happy with the service, receiving assistance from the company CEO when need be. Their software/hardware is also capable of handling very long threads, (our longest being over 12,000 posts and 130mb for the text only before becoming corrupted.)
I do security
www.only2dollars.com
no setup fee, $2/month, 50mb no limit, 15$/year for the domain
Guess how much they charge for web hosting...
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There are 0x40000000 types of people: those who understand 32-bit IEEE 754 floating point, and those who don't.
I have been using Appalachian Web Solutions www.appws.com for a few months now their basic package starts at $10. The guys are great to deal with and they also did a great job on my website. I try to stay with local companies myself and these guys are the cheapest here locally that don't do hosting off their DSL or Cable Modem.
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At Aplus.net here in San Diego the basic rate is $50/U + $20 for every U after that. There are various bandwidth options; basically it's $5/G and gets cheaper as you consume more. Last time I checked their upstreams included Sprint and UUnet via full ds3s. I'm pleased with their service; for a box I'm connected to constantly when I'm awake I've only noticed their AS drop off the map once for about an hour. They have all the standard data center equipment but at the most reasonable price I've found for small scale (less than a third of a rack) colocation.
If you're in the midwest OneCall has nice facilities.
Just an aplus customer...
1/4 rack 1-3Mb burstable (pretty much uses 1.5-1.9 during the day and 2 at night during the backups)
quite good uptime, service, etc.
reboots if necessary
24hr monitoring
thumbprint access
clean power
managed firewall
there are others that have similar connections that are not as pricey.
pretzel_logic
I don't work for them and would love to have our servers hosted someplace I can visit it, but unfortunately, the Boston area just isn't popular for hosting facilities.
-N
I've nothing to say here...
Also, the WebHostingTalk forums have a dedicated forum subsection for having companies compete over you... it was somewhat amusing when I did so. I got like 5 responses within an hour, plus 5 or so e-mails. But then I realized that the bandwidth I'd require was much greater than I anticipated (or could afford), so I edited my post saying something like that. And they're still e-mailing me. Like once a week...
Speakeasy Sucks. They have quite probably the worst customer service I have ever seen. I was stunned that a company so dysfunctional was able to remain in business. I mean, they hit every bad point from a customer's viewpoint: billing errors, lying customer service reps, service not in line with contract, etc. etc. etc. It sickens me now that they put forward this face of being geek friendly, "great service at a premium!" well, I was willing to pay the premium but instead of good customer service I got screwed. It really says something when the local Bell telephone offshoot has a better track record of service...
Putting it more bluntly, I ended up tossing about three hundred bucks down the drain on them. For that much, I could have spent some quality time with a hooker or two, and then at least getting screwed would have been a good thing. :-( As it is, I'll be going with Crime Warner. I know they're going to suck, but at least I'm prepared for it, rather than going into it with high expectations like I did with speakeasy.
I'd post the whole sordid saga here, but it's really fairly long and only marginally related to the topic at hand. Suffice to say that hosting your websites at home isn't neccessarily a bad idea, just don't expect to get anything but hassle from those seattle-ite latte-slurping asshounds at speakeasy. I post this here and not anonymously in the hopes that I can save other geeks like me the trouble of dealing with them.
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This pricing is common to Cleveland, and may have since come down. I havn't been consulting for two years, but this was a very good a price competitive solution for most of my customers.
$300 a month, one tile, unlimited power, T3 connectivity. You provide the UPS, Rack, and Servers, they provide a chair and an ashtray. Works for me, and you can sublease the rack space.
We recently moved our servers to tera-byte (www.tera-byte.com) and we are pleased with the flexible bandwidth levels and excellent throughput. Rack charges for non-routable nodes always hurt though.
It sounds like you talking about getting / increasign the speed of your leased line or going the colo route. I think the big missing part is what is it going to do are you going to loose money if it's down if so how much? I wouldent even think of going into any colo that isn't fully UPS' Gen backed up and N+1 on there cooling and generators.
From your server side it sounds like your going way overkill a T1 is a VERY small circut you grandmothers P166 could saturate it with static ish web trafic. Generaly the smallest unit of dedicated space I have gotten has been a single rack they generaly run 1k a month with 1Mb a sec floor on a 100bt connection and that meg included. This is also generaly 2 20amp power strips and cooling for the same (IE just enough for 42 1Ru servers if you stage there powerup on failure)
Look for Colo's that are near the backbone like NYC Virginia and Boston on the east coast it generaly makes sence to target the proximity of your user base as that can make a lot of network problems not be apparent to the majority of your users.
No sir I dont like it.
The same guys who host php.net and mysql.com mirrors have an absolutely amazing deal for website hosting. Ten bucks a month for full Unix development environment (with javac, gcc, crontab, and all that stuff), a real shell account, and a sweet webserver setup: PHP, MySQL, cgi-bin (with Perl and Tcl), anonymous FTP, SSL, and a whole mess of POP features. Plus, they have onsite UPS/generator, a gigabit backbone, and lots of other hardware goodies.
Running your own server loads of fun, don't get me wrong, but $10 a month for all this stuff seems worth it. Unless you really have money to burn, it's impossible to the same kind of performance out of your own server... Do you think Verizon will run a gigabit backone and Hubble power connector to my house for $10?
Hurricane Electric http://www.he.net/
It's not bad... a couple hundred megs, PHP, CGI, FTP access, etc. Reliability isn't the greatest though, sometimes it's very slow, other times I get host timeouts.
All in all though, it's worth $4/month to put up some stuff that no one really looks at anyway :-)
I use ICDSoft.com to host my website, www.hitlery.com. They give 333 MB of space, 5 GB transfer/month, 999 POP email addys, 20 mailing lists, and a bunch of other junk. $65 for one year includes domain name registration. They offer a good service and excellent support for semi-novice website admins like me.
I use slashdot to host all my messages for free! Bwahahahaha!!!
I do have to put up with a bunch of ads/slashvertisements and a lot of other non-related messages though.
We've got our corporate site hosted by locally owned Apollo Hosting (http://www.apollohosting.com). We're paying $19.95 / month for 200MB of space. The main plus with them, is that they use RedHat 6.2 & Apache, and allow for SSH access.
T-1 charges + 2 class C subnets $947 month Unlimited data transfer.
100mb fiber -> shared Oc3 line split with Gov't office and local univeristy $2000 month Unlimited transfer.
I currently have several 1U servers hosted at American ISP. They offer very reasonable prices as well as awesome service. They have a colocation calculator on their website so you could figure out what you would be spending.
The prices are good - for a 1U server it can cost as little as $20 / month with a contract or $25 / month without an extended contract. I can also attest to the quality of their service. Their security and sys-admin people are great.
Life is like an elevator, sometimes you get the elevator and sometimes you get the shaft
I use http://www.justhostme.com for about 15 of my websites ( private and my business sites), they have been great and made a custom plan for me because i had so many sites.
chow
You can't even spell article...
this is why you are a dumbass.
Although I completely agree with you on the slashdot sucking part. That's no fuckin lie. Slashdot is a fuckin joke.
But still, you could learn to spell. This would be a plus for both me and you.
Even still, slashdot is a tree of naked cock monkies.
tru? i think so
The cheapest solution is not to put up a site, since I have nothing worth posting, including this comment.
1.) Set up an Apache server /. effect
2.) Get enough bandwidtht to withstand the
3.) Upload p0rn
4.) ????
5.) PROFIT!!!
I (we) run a small site here in Finland and we are paying about 20 euros/kk. Quota is 250MB, altought it is not controlled any way. No transfer limits (We have about 65 gigs of transfers from our site each month). We're pretty happy with the deal, especially since the line is fast (100 or 1000mbit or something, they won't tell). Do you think it's expensive or not?
The truth or interpretation..
I pay that much for a Linux machine, reasonably equipped, closely watched, with no (artificial) limits on bandwidth or storage. I'm just asked to keep usage reasonable.
Hosts like this can be found all over the place if you ask the right people or check the right web sites. Just don't be suckered in by cute web pages; word of mouth is one of the best ways to judge.
I (better: we) got a nice sponsorship from a young webhoster, we have an own static IP, no quotas, unlimited mail accounts POP3/IMAP/forward, of course all the nifty stuff as PHP/Perl/MySQL/Webalizer. This means our site has 8mbit (or more) upstream bandwidth. We're happy. Since 4 years. What's missing (but in the pipe) is RBL filtering on incoming mails.
Talk to some guys at some ISPs/Hosters and ask them if they would do you a favour when you do the same to them - works a lot.
In either case, however, this solution is not sufficient for a site that is expected to have lots of traffic, or that you want to use for an e-commercie or other corporate solution.
"You spoony bard!" -Tellah
Since I work in the web-hosting industry I get free co-location :) However, not everyone is so lucky.
:)
As someone else suggested, webhostingtalk.com is a great resource.
There are certainly some hosts to stay away from; I won't mention their names here (as I am in said industry and don't wish to say ill of competitors) but you can figure out who by reading that above site
I think I might switch my site over to SA Net Hosting... it's a bare-bones colo setup, just two guys (one of them is Rich "Lowtax" Kyanka, of SomethingAwful.com fame) reselling bandwidth since SomethingAwful.com buys a lot of bandwidth and gets it cheap. Not much in the way of support but it's something like 83 cents a gig... easily the cheapest I've ever seen.
Their software/hardware is also capable of handling very long threads, (our longest being over 12,000 posts and 130mb for the text only before becoming corrupted.)
I believe your definition of "capable" differs from mine.
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They don't mind, since there is no download or upload cap and they have a T3 it makes no difference for a site which has about 50 - 60 people a week visit it. The great thing is that I manage all the Linux servers(we have no windows servers) I really can do what I want as along as I don't blow up anything, break it, spill my coffee on it, or anything that may harm the company its okay, well except porn, and playing games(when my boss is there).
Sorry, the link should be: sanethosting.com
Result from a 100mbps connection to a backbone, 4million hits/day, and roughly about 750sqft of rack space at a major colo...
$35,000/month
Can you say www.webhostingforfree.com. Really I don't work for them or anything, I'm just happyw with their service. All you have to do is register your domain name with them, which is quite reasonable. There is no banner popups or pop unders. Just free web hosting
I don't think they offer co-location, but they do offer dedicated machines for managed or unmanaged co-hosting. If you're interested in signing up, click here.
(If you're in Las Vegas and considering something similar, the residential-grade service from Cox (the one that uses the cheap cable modems you find in stores) most likely won't work. If Cox issued you a Com21 cable modem (which costs a bit under $300 if you want to buy one), you're getting their business-grade service and can pretty much do what you want (though you'll need a static IP to run an SMTP server). The strange part is that the last time I checked, there's no difference in cost between the two types of service.)
We do something similar with the cable-modem connection at work. For a low-to-medium-traffic site, there's no reason to not use your existing broadband connection. Having your servers onsite makes keeping an eye on them much easier.
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I have a very small site for my very spread out borhters and sisters running over my cable modem connection with dyndns.org doing dns duties for me, if youre not picky about your domain name you can get one of theirs for free, but if you want a custom its like 30$ a year, not too bad.
Pretty sweet setup too.
dont wanna sound like an advertisement but for just registering your domain with them for $25 a year you get free banner free business hosting with 20mb/1gb transfer from Doteasy.
I run a personal web site that I don't do much more than blog and rant on, but it's still ran using my own MySQL database that modwest provides, and the ability to telnet into my account is definitely icing on the cake. Plus the fact I'm only paying $11.95 a month sealed it for me. In the sixth months or so I've been using the service, I've only had two incidents, both of which not lasting more than an hour, where my website was down. And one of those was due to a DNS problem on my end.
I'm not sure about any other providers (other than yahoo, which you should stay far, far away from), but modwest is a damn fine choice.
I'm paying NOK 1500 a month, that's about $200. Very few ISPs around here just host customers boxes around here, and even fewer allow people to play with it as they please. I'm just aware of one other than this, and they're more expensive. The bill is actually shared between a non-profit I work for, and my father...
The bandwidth to it is excellent. It is actually sitting on the top of the national backbone. That's not going to last, unfortunately, it was just because they are rebuilding their server room. The bottleneck there is probably the hard drive and not the network anyway... :-)
Employee of Inrupt, Project Release Manager and Community Manager for Solid
100Mbps connection to my computer. Allowed to host pretty much anything non-commercial. God bless student LANs (for 12 euros per month). :)
Mine costs about $30 a month. It comes with 10 MySQL databases, 10 domain pointers, PHP supported, Zend optimization, ect. Outages are rare. Tech support is the best I've experienced, so far. http://www.site5.com/
I don't usually post but I'm very satisfied with my Johncompanies FreeBSD Box
I pay $65 / Month
- root on your own server
- Full FreeBSD Filesystem
- 2 gigabytes disk space
- 40 Gigs transfer / Month
- Firewall access
- Unlimited tech support
- We supply the hardware
I'm currently running a very kickass apache box with an incredible uptime (they've been down once and they weren't really down, just a network problem, 90% of my customers were able to still reach the sites)
I'm hosting over 30 domains on there, not low bandwidth either. And I'm probably going to be buying more boxes to setup a web serving cluster as the number of users increases
The support is fast fast fast. I get replies in less than 5 minutes in some cases.
http://www.johncompanies.com/
Pair Networks. Excellent service so far. Here's a blurb from their site:
'Advanced Account' $17.95/mon $30 setup
- Includes Virtual Domain
- 300MB/Day Traffic (9GB/mon)
- 200MB Disk Space
- 25 Mailboxes
- Login by Telnet or SSH
- Custom CGI, SSI, PHP 4, Perl 5
- Level 2 System CGI (free scripts)
- E-Mail Support
- Optional: Secure Server (SSL)
- Supports multiple Virtual Domains
- Free Web-Based E-mail Interface
I'm sharing a SDSL 1.5mbit connection with 10 or so static IPs in Santa Cruz california with a friend. He mentioned to me he is paying approximately $350/month. I pay him $150/month to host my 4 servers there. The sites are listed on http://www.kenjim.com
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i pay $9.99/month at rackhost.net. PHP, unlimited email, mysql databases, mailing lists, forwarders, aliases, pop3 accounts, subdomains.
~owen
resume - FOR HIRE!
About as long as it takes an Israeli terrorist to attack... look at the history, Israeli "settlers" look a lot like whites vs American Indians in terms of history...no wonder they're fighting back
I've had a dedicated server for about 5 years now. For the first 4.5 yeas I was on Hurricane Electric. H.E. has got to be the crappiest host in the world. They were great when I first started with them but made absolutely no advances in their servce or technology in 4.5 years. When they told me they couldn't install lib-mcrypt because it was too hard, I knew it was time to move. I've been with ProHosters for close to 6 months now and I think it was the best decision of my life. Realtime 24/7 support via their own IRC channel and super-smart people working there. They totally work their asses off for you. I have a dedicated RedHat box. I get 100 GB/month transfer with $1.50/GB over and they manage it for me. It costs me $300/month which is pretty normal for a dedicated machine.
ProHosters
Geez, if you feel that strongly, maybe you shouldn't post under AC.
/. readers where the best deal is?
Also, did you ever think that it's the editors who are too lazy to do their own research?
CmdrTaco: Did you see the latest bill for our website - aack! We've got to stop posting such big stories, or else we're going to have to find another provider.
michael: Why don't we ask the
timothy: They've been pretty pissed at us lately - have you seen the comments?
michael & CmdrTaco: No.
timothy: Why don't we pretend it's from another person, then...
CmdrTaco: Great! It's so crazy, it just might work!
I work for a profitable dot-com that didn't die in the dot-com bust. We, the IT team, are given the oppourtunity to have our servers on the same racks as our company servers. I run about 20-30K/sec constant average, all for free.
I just went to www.10-best-web-site-and-domain-hosting-services.c om and looked at some reviews. I wish I had done that in the first place -- it would have saved lots of money.
:)
I selected FeaturePrice.com, the top rated site. They do more for less than my old service. They have several packages, depending on the service you want. My only complaint was paying annually up-front.
While you're at it, please visit my site (in my sig), and look for my abducted daugher. We'll give it the slashdot test -- I have "unlimited" bandwidth.
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Please help find my missing daughter: FindSabrina.org
I've been using http://www.hsds.net/ for a while now, and they seem good so far. No connection problems like disconnects or network saturation. I think they're on a multi-oc3 and oc12 network via 100mbit ethernet. They also offer t3's in the dallas area for $5k or so, which seems pretty cheap.
Hostway has done a great job for me. My WWW traffic is light enough that I can work with a virtual server, so for $135 I have their (W2K) Diamond package with 500MB storage, 30GB traffic, and 70MB of MS-SQL. They have Linux packages available, as well as dedicated boxes. 24x7 service has been great the few times I've needed them in 3 years.
My site is hosted in Argentina.
I pay U$S 5 per month, and I get 700 mb, PHP, MySQL, unlimited pop mail, and lots of stuff that I never used (like a chatroom or the statistics).
Margarita Manterola.
a 3 server configuration (if you really need all that), would be around 3-5k down, & 3 or 4 100$ mo., depending on bandwidth, etc.... all penguinista, all the time. there are several other variables. we're not perfect (yet), but our chart so far looks like rockets.
even though we're always working hard to provide superior value/service to our customers, you can only imagine our surprise, at being recognized as one of the "Top 10 Companies of 2002"(tm) , on several search engines. not much hiding from the good gnus anymore.
Netmar has good pricing...$10/Month - 100MB - Unlimited bandwidth
ask the sales team a few questions:
;)
Ask how many internet connections they have and what speed with each one.
Ask how many NIC cards will be in your machine.
Ask what your max Mbps is
(This always gets you put on hold) Ask what the machines bus speed is
Ask if RAM upgrades/HD additions are priced per month or if there is a one time fee.
Ask if they will search your box for illegal materials. (you be surprised how many said yes) That means you are not the only one with root. so throw them out of the list.
Ask if you get unlimited users accounts. (dell host caps you at 100 pops) thats not full service!
Ask what the minimum billing is for support. some have 30 min some have 1 hr.
Ask if they use a in house linux distribution.
Ask if they offer security bullitens and offer links to patches.
call there tech support before you sign up and tell them you are a customer. (play the dumb blonde) see how they treat you.
Ask your salesman for their cellphone. (that gets some laughs)
Look up the server companies IP block then hit em on ARIN and see if they own a substantial block or if they own one at all!!
Ask if you are your own dns or if you have to use theirs.
Ask if your on a virtual dedicated.
Ask what the levels of discount are per GIG over allocation.
Ask who owns them
Ask about offsite back ups storage., how far away is it?
Ask if you are allowed on their property
Ask the price of additional IPS
Ask if you can tour the facility
Ask if you can ethernet multiple boxes to bypass bandwidth fees.
Ask if you can host adult sites
Ask if your machine has a control panel that support insists you use. (cobalt!!! ahhhh!!!)
ask how long they have had a business license.
and last, ask about the spam policies and what they consider spam and what the fine is per message.
that should help with the fodder
pretzel_logic
UNtil you need a dedicated server.
do your research check out http://webhostingtalk.com/
great forums about webhosting
I pay about $40.00 a month with Weberz. I get 1.5 gigs split however I want between windows and freeBSD servers. 35gigs of bandwidth. it's more than enough for my dozen sites.
"I drank what?" - Socrates
Definitely worth the $90 i send them a year...250 Megs, 25G transfer, php, mysql, perl...well worth it. And I can say that I voted with my money -- part of my decide to use them was based on the fact that they supported a favorite browser of mine, Opera, and they are very proud of their UN*X roots.
forget it.
http://www.lexiconn.com/
Cypherpunks: Civil Liberty Through Complex Mathematics. Those who live by the sword die by the arrow.
Nothing at all. This is one of the little rewards in wiring a friend's company 10 years ago, where TCP-IP-savvy geeks weren't a dime a dozen... Over the years, the link went from 64K ISDN to T-1.
Shut yer yap. There is no such thing as an Israeli terrorist, you idiot.
$2/GB traffic
$.50/GB/day storage
$.15/minute CPU time (for scripts)
It's easy to track your usage through their website, and create multiple accounts with different privilidges. For any site with less than 100 visitors a day, this is perfect, because there's no monthly charge. I've maintained my church's website for 6 months there, and haven't exceeded $.15 yet.
nearlyfreespeech.com is cheaper, but they don't allow ssh (or telnet) access. This is a big downside for those of us who enjoy unix because of it's user interface ;)
Unfortunately, I can't help you if you need more bandwith than those guys can give. Good luck!
Free unix account: freeshell.org
I'm having trouble beliving anyone would pay $800 per megabyte per month!
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
I have a reseller account with nocster, and it works out pretty cheap. I split it with one other person, we each pay $15/month. But the best thing is WE CAN HOST AS MANY DOMAINS AS WE LIKE. So I got 1 domain, he has a domain, and we share another one. Plus my little brother has been wanting to make a website, so a $8 DNS registration and bamn, he gets some space too.
We get 1gb of disk, and 20gb transfer. This is the lowest option, you can get a lot more.
Checkit out.
www.wpidalamar.com - Personal web site
Our joint-venture: www.geek4.com - public web site, like slashdot, but anyone can post, and then people can subscribe to various authors to determine what news they get.
This might be a little off-topic, but when we were looking for a one-stop host/registrar, there seemed to be quite a few low-cost options for the minimal space/bandwidth we needed at the time, but the service agreements were a cause for concern. At the time, I found few agreements that didn't imply that the provider owned at least some rights to the domain name, and only one that explicitly affirmed our sole ownership (buydomains a.k.a. domaindiscover a.k.a. tierranet). That was the difference for us.
"This is not a sig." -- R.
>I've been using One2Host[one2host.com] for the past 6 months for my personal site. Reliability isn't the greatest though, sometimes it's very slow, other times I get host timeouts.
/. effect. ^_^
And to think, for 7.77$/month you could be hosted on powweb. Great reliability, great speed, loads of space and features. They even took care of that whole "domain registration" thingy for me.
And no, I won't post my website URL here, don't wanna risk a
Geocities hosts for $0
When I started with SpeakEasy, I was about two months into a year lease in a section of Boston that won't have broadband/cable for years to come. Since SpeakEasy locks you in for a year, I knew I was going to "burn" a couple of months when I moved out. When I moved out, I got in touch with them to tell them that I moved, and cancelled my telco service. My monthly was $90, with a $300 or so termination fee. My plan was to let the two months run out, paying only $180. Instead, they tried to charge me the termination fee! I got in touch with them to tell them that I didn't want my account cancelled, just that the DSL connection no longer exists. In the end they let me pay the $180, but I was *not* happy about that.. I then moved, and am in a cable modem area, giving me the same bandwidth at a much lower price-point..
with all the unix/linux goodies... php, mysql, static IP, cpanel, anon FTP and I'm very happy with the provider.
-sk
http://www.johncompanies.com/collocation/
I had hosted for free in my last two jobs, but my new company is so small that they won't let me plug my bsd box into the network (I am employee #12 and they did not want it to look like it was favoritism). So time to go and actually pay for hosting, ouch.
I was ready to bite the bullet and pick a cheapo unix shop, but I was so addicted to having full control of my free bsd server that I kept looking around and found JohnCompanies. $65 for a virtual colo, so the physical server is running multiple virtual partitions that to the user look like a full system. I said screw it, if it does not work I lose $65 and I can look elsewhere.
So far everything they have promised has been right on the money. The support is AWESOME. Email them at the weirdest hours and a real person replies within minutes. They don't charge for backups (my company has a colo that wants $200/month extra to do backups for us). The server runs pretty damn fast, and it is triple-homed.
When you receive the server it is freeBSD4.6 and stripped to the bone. The only thing running is sendmail and ssh, plus a fresh ports tree. Anything else you want, you install yourself exactly how you want it. Don't know how to do something? Email support and they will walk you thru it.
I am hosting 5 websites and running mail feeds for 2 and so far no outages and no complaints.
By the way, if you are an open source developer they will give you a price break, and they also have deals for Linux instead of freeBSD and also for actual rack space if you want to provide your hardware.
Pedro
----
The Insomniac Coder
I had a very similar situation with Speakeasy, although it involved handoff problems and Verizon screw-ups. They suddenly charged me $300 for my modem a year after _they_ told me to go with a different ISP. I told them to go ahead and bill me but I wouldn't pay it. After a sequence of increasingly nasty collection notices and endless threats and credit warnings, I chickened out and ended up paying.
All throughout, they kept the polite smiley attitude that everybody from Seattle seems to have, but nobody was actually willing to help me there. I would really recommend that folks stay away from all big ISPs, esp Speakeasy, and find local small-fry ISPs who actually want your business.
1 dollar hosting has hosting for $1 / month. NOT. The first gimmick is there's a "lifetime membership fee" of $50 or so. But of course, that "lifetime membership fee" is per domain hosted (the lifetime of what?) Plus they are a bunch of clowns. Their servers go down, but naturally their tech support will put the problem off as "user error", "hacker problems", or "Pac Bell has been suffering from major packet loss...". Feel free to post your nightmare 1 dollar hosting nightmares here. Here's a reply my friend got from them one time:
We have had a few problems similar to this in the past, but unfortunately, it has turned out to be user error each time. Your extensions are working properly (or else you wouldn't be able to upload anything). You just need to configure your files properly. There is detailed documentation on the www.microsoft.com website, or you can contact their customer support office for even more help.
Good luck,
Tech Support
You sure will need good luck hosting with these clowns.
pair.net has been around for a long time. I've used them for a couple years now. Prices are decent and their system is well automated. Load times on my websites are always fast and I've never noticed any downtime.
check out www.wiredhub.net great prices and space.
1 gig space, 10 gig band, ftp, cgi, php, MySQL and all those good stuff. All for $9.99/month.
I started out as a member of Crosswired in the UK.
It allowed a huge amount of flexibility. Unfortunately the coop is at a point of change and so aren't accepting any members at the moment.
However, the company overseeing the project (Crosswired) will support start up coops.
It might be an interesting alternative.
In Soviet Russia, website host YOU!
Quatro Systems (http://www.quatro.com) offers a bunch of well priced plans for colocation and hosting. I know several people with cheap colocations there.
I'm currently on JohnCompanies.
They do virtual colo service; that is, you get root on your own virtual server, but you really share hardware with some of their other clients. Works alright, $65/mo is what I'm paying...
Has anyone tried Something Awful hosting? I'm curious to hear if Lowtax actually pulls through or if he's no better than the scum he always bitches about.
Whoa! I read ServerBeach as BeaverSearch. Perhaps it's time to call it a day.
-- My hovercraft is full of eels.
I've used several ISP/CoLo sites over the past six years and have been with PogoLinux for the past two.
I'm very happy with them, $149 a month for their hardware at their site (15 GB xfer/month). I've paid more to CoLo my own boxes.
You have root access on your box.
Had no service interruptions or power outages since I've been with them. I just checked my uptime and it was 292 days, I bounced it earlier this year after patching something.
Anyways, I'm not affiliated, etc, but I've been very happy with PogoLinux.
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We use Arbor Hosting and havnen't had any problems. Only 1 outage that was fixed within a few hours and cheap too:
Professional 150
$19.95/month
150 MB disk space
10 user accounts
CGI/PHP/Perl
Dedicated IP address
Telnet/SSH access
1 MySQL database
Plus, needed a few perl modules installed and the tech guy got it done in less than a day.
~Segfault
Find one that looks adequate for your needs, then ask about it on webhostingtalk.com, to make sure it's reputable.
Free unix account: freeshell.org
I pay 5 bucks a month for 500 megs of space, perl, mysql, php, and 5 megs of pop email. www.sourcecod.com
-1 (Troll) is antihammer
i colo with these guys.
;-P
their only problem was september 11th, 2001. since they host on wall street, they had a teensy weensy problem with the power grid that week.
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Linuxmotor.net Shared hosting, Unlimited bandwidth and disk space $50/year Great company. They had a rocky start but are wonderful now.
The human condition is to not accept the human condition.
My site (still under heavy construction) is hosted by 49pence.com and they are some pretty damn good hosts. I have the Enterprise package for $9.99USD per month, which these days isn't that bad, I don't think. The thing that really blows my mind though is that they have actual tech support that... dramatic pause... responds. Much better than my old hosts, who were nothing more than internet bandits.
SecondPageMedia - Wha
My mail account it screwed by YAHOO! All I get is this:
Temporary problem accessing your mailbox.
We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. The problem with your mailbox has now been logged, and we are working to restore your access.
Thank you for your patience.
Yahoo, you were messing with the wrong guy now. Now all professionals know that you can't fucking run your e-mail service! FUCK OFF YAHOO!I have not been able to use my Yahoo e-mail acoount in fucking 10 hours now!!!
You can fight reason with reason, but how are you going to fight the unreasonable? - Ellsworth M. Toohey
1. Fly 767s into tall buildings
2. Anthrax
3. Profit!
I get free hosting on this server for a website that my roommate runs. I rule, I think.
n/t
I just happen to work for a web hosting company.
http://rhyton.com
It is great. You can do virtual web hosting yourself. You can connect with ssh. Perl, mysql, and sendmail are all installed. You can even configure them for your needs.
I run www.icarusindie.com out of house on a 256K up /640K down DSL line for $70 a month through Inficad/Getnet. Last month I did over 50GB of transfer and suffered a number of "Server not found" errors during peak times. It's $200 a month to go to 1Mbit both ways.
With a NAT I can run as many services on as many computers of any OS I want. It's a nice "cheap" way to get your feet wet before going for a professional solution.
dotcom
has everything listed you need to get a server going.
Ben
Work Safe Porn
I use Wizards Hosting. For $15/month I get 8 Gigs of traffic, 250 megs of space, 250 email addresses, 20 MySQL db's, 100 subdomains, 50 mailing lists and a nifty web interface. I've been extremely happy with them, much better than my prior hosting service (westhost.com). They have plans starting from $8/mo for 25MBs of space.
I'm paying a company at Ottawa, Ontario for about $10 CDN / month. I got the shared server Linux package with ftp, apache, mysql, php, pop3, smtp, and other admin features. 90MB storage, 5GB traffic, max 20 POP3 email boxes.
They also offer 200MB storage, 10GB traffic, 40 mail boxes, etc. for about $13 CDN.
============
Mathematics will always come back to hunt you down, in so many ways
I went with a small shop from a guy that advertised it in his .sig here. $12 a month for a pretty nice setup, all admin was done using scripts, monthly fees paid via paypal.
It was three weeks before I noticed my email was bouncing from that domain and me web stuff was GONE.
No announcement, no 'sorry, we're closing shop', just GONE. It was a real PITA running around getting DNS's changed and recreating the web content.
Now I'm paying $22 a month to Earthlink. It may cost more, but it's not gonna go away in the middle of the night.
"Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus."
This is the same host that Anandtech uses. While this is just for my dorky personal site (http://www.richardwurzer.com), I am very satisfied: I get 100mb and screaming bandwidth (almost always >300k/sec, sometimes faster). The staff is responsive (I usually deal directly with the CEO).
Shared hosting is on "Dual AMD Athlon 1600 MP machine with 2GB of RAM or more. Each shared server is also utilizing dual ATA/100 7200RPM storage with Raid1 for fault-tolerance."
They also recently implemented logging using Analog 5.22 and Report Magic.
http://www.eicomm.net/
How much do you pay for socks?
What is the best way to get Ketchup out of the bottle?
I'm paying 30 bucks a month for http://www.uberlan.net. 500MB of storage, unlimited traffic, PHP, MYSQL, CGI and just about anything else you can think of. It is a small enough provider that you can still request features and actually get them implimented.
I host myself, but for the business DSL connection, it's $75CAD (about $45US or so?) a month for business DSL.
The server I bought used, with the box and all internals at about $120CAD.
Comparable, a hosting company I work with charges about $25/mo CAD for shared hosting (there are other dedicated packages as well). If I weren't hosting a bunch of other people for free, and using a lot of bandwidth/files, I'd probably have gone for the $25/mo server, it's cheaper than running the business DSL (but also not as prestigious as running one's own server).
Netnation.com has decent pricing and the best damn support you'll come across. If your having a network problem, you can simply call up and ask for "NOC" and you'll be talking with a senior network engineer in a matter of minutes.
Not to mention they are on the NASDAQ (NNCI) and have been turning an increasing profit every quarter for more then a year. Pretty impressive in this economy.
www.netnation.com
And no, you can't have any. :p
i use shared hosting. www.challengehost.com $50/year and it does everything i need.
And they currently have a special for 1U Co-Lo with 100GB/Month and 2 IPs for $50/month. This is a pretty good deal. I have been with them for 2 years and just renegotiated my contract to the new rate. (As my old one just expired) Very, very good. I've had no problems even coming in and just working on my machine. Just let them know you are coming.
Run my own webserver on my SDSL line.
They are cheap, provide shell acess, you can upload and compile things if you want. At $60 a year you got 50 meg of space and 6 gigs of traffic per month. Reliability is outstanding. I don't remember seeing my site down. And they use Sun boxes. Nice!
I host my information on a site setup to host student projects and such... they give a decent deal. 25bucks a year for a fair amount of features. http://www.eprojecthosting.org
Well given the cost of bandwidth and supply outstripping demand - costs are cheap, but never cheap enough. I pay around £10 a month for hosting of a whole domain in Telehouse with respectable limits; I suspect man will make it to Mars before I hit them. Of course it's also the peerage that makes a big difference and not forgetting support. I've currently been using http://www.metahusky.net/hosting.html for over a year now and never for one minute had my train of thought derailed with support issues - sex yeah but not me hosting. Heck they have the same peerage as the bbc.co.uk, so if /. Does an article on all colo's I'm sure this would handle the load (I wonder when /. will give out awards too sites that survive without removing content or requireing registration).
Security is also an area of concern and you really can't place a cost on that - I mean, what's your business worth, as that's what's at stake. Again I'm happy given that I work in security and have still to catch them out.
At the end of the day you have to look at what you want and then find a supplier that can meet that. Also look into security, support (hours of support as well;) and also who uses them currently from the perspective on how long they have been there - whats there churn like, and do your own research on that by emailing a couple of the webmasters of the hosted domains of from google or whatever means you prefer.
I just my own Box with IIS and ATT broadband cable. Yeah yeah yeah I'm a windows user but it took about 2 minutes to setup. And it works! And no I won't post the link so I can get my home machine /.
Hold up, wait a minute, let me put some pimpin in it
£100 per month, plus £20 for every 30Gb of data transfer. That includes 1U space, power, remote console, etc and a 10Mbps connection.
Choosehosting host all of our games server off QiX - fabulosuly low pings, great support, great speeds. They also offer central European hosting for European-centric customers.
Other than a 10-15 minute hold time, their customer service reps were always polite knowledgeable geeks that helped me immediately.
My 1.1 SDSL has been rock solid for over a year now.
people who advertise on slashdot get modded as off topic or trolls.
Includes:
1 cage about 4' x 6'
2 full racks
2 20-amp circuits
1 100 Mbit/sec drop
UPS backed power and three standby generators
secure access
full fire suppression
1 Mbit/sec base bandwidth
Major backbone provider
$ 2500 a month
Can't say who they are, but Slashdot uses 'em.
So you're saying you are an advocate of Palestinians blowing themselves up in buses full of school children? You can deceive yourself all you like, but please - you're not fooling anyone here.
All I pay for is my Domain registration.
I try to limit my bandwidth usage to avoid getting attention from the NOC admin's, however there was one time a while back that I hosted a video for a freind of mine, and the server got hit hard. I went over my accounts monthly bandwidth allocation by around 300% inside of 24 hrs, and NO ONE NOTICED.
Hrmph.. so much for the SA's meriting their inflated salaries.
I pay $100/month for a dedicated server, and I use it to operate a small web hosting service with just enough clients to cover my costs. Most of my clients are friends or friends of friends so I cut them a good deal, but it works out well. I get hosting for my site and I get my own server to play with and the only cost is fixing any problems/answering any questions that come up.
I recently started selling web hosting.. after looking around I realized I'm not going to get rich off of this. It's insanely hard to compete anymore. Similar to the dial-up wars of the late 90s, web-hosting did the exact same "drive the price lower until we're free".
;)
Well, since it's actually on-topic, I'll spam my little web hosting company. For $9.95/mo, you get unlimited emails, 100MB space, 6GB of transfer (for small sites this is more than adequate, additional GBs are just $2.50/GB, which is actually pretty cheap.).
By far the biggest selling point is the control panel. You can add your own emails and tailor virtually every aspect of your service through there.
Since this is a fairly tech savvy crowd, I won't dumb this down too much. Anyway, the website for the hosting is www.linkexp.net. If you wanna give it a look, be my guest.
I just wasted your mod points! HA!
arrowweb.com and ezpublishing.com both offer
$7-$15/mo hosting...CGI scripts and UNLIMITED BANDWIDTH--the catch is the total storage space is on the low end, 50-100megs.
all my sites run on one of them, and I've been pretty happy. ezpublishing seems slightly more reliable, but has a funkier CGI setup.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO DIE: The Comic for Dealing with Death
I have been using AITCOM.NET (http://aitcom.net/web_hosting/colocation.php?id=1 97)
for quite a while and love it. Web based front ends for everything on all of their stuff. Their dedicated / colo stuff starts at 79 bucks a month and gets you 70 GBs transfer per month, 2 IPs. They have the standard UPS/Redundant links.
Currently I'm hosting about 45 domains and about 15 machines at my home.
:)
I have a T1 through o1 and so far I've been very happy with them. I know most of the guys that work there, and they actually call *me* if they notice any issues with the T1 circuit.
It's costing me about $500/mo for the full 1.54mbit circuit. No other limitations at all. I run my own DNS & everything.
I'm a happy customer.
Someone to lease servers to you and manage them ("managed hosting" or "managed servers")
To buy the hardware yourself, colocate it in someone's datacenter and manage it yourself ("colocation" or "colo")
Buy hardware that matches what the provider uses for managed servers and have them put it in their datacenter and manage it ("managed colo" or "molo")
Buy hardware that matches what the provider uses for managed servers, leave it at your site with a T1 or other connection and have the provider manage it ("managed onsite servers")
The company I work for, SAVVIS, does all four, but I recommend managed hosting.
Some more about managed hosting:
We manage Windows and Red Hat on Compaq hardware and Solaris on Sun. We can also help manage certain applications (not the custom code or data, but the configs, patches etc.) like Oracle, WebLogic, Apache, SunONE (iPlanet), MS SQL, IIS, etc.
The other issue is what kind of networking you want - we have some cool options on that end as well. Besides a great internet connection you can get a true private IP network (not just a VPN, although you could do that instead) to securely and reliably upload and manage your custom data and code. And of course either a virtualized or dedicated managed firewall, loadbalancing, EMC and/or dedicated external storage.
We have several very cool datacenters - the ~$82M flagship site in St. Louis has been cited by some in the industry as the best privately-owned datacenter in the world. We also have very nice spaces in Tokyo, London and SFO, and smaller facilities in Singapore and New York.
And the thing is, you can get a basic config like you're talking about fast and fairly cheap. Less than 10 days if your requirements fit into our standardized "Fast Pack multi-server" offering, up to 30 days otherwise but usually much less than that in reality. And since we own the hardware and all software licenses for the pieces we manage, and you just pay a monthly fee to use it, you're spreading out at least some of your your costs over time. And you get 24/7 proactive monitoring, operations and engineering staff, regular security and performance patches (coordinated with you of course), OS and supported app troubleshooting, etc. etc.
I can go into lots more detail if you're curious, but suffice to say we do a pretty good job. We have a lot of big financial customers who seem to think so anyway.
fnord.
Here is my 3 cents.
/year. That is just for one of our datacenters and we do content cacheing w/ a third party too. this is for full managed support w/ dedicated admins w/ HP. we run about 40 servers w/ a steady 30mb/s peaking up to 55. w/ the other datacenters and our content cacheing included we are peaking up to 160mb/s. sweeeeeeetttt!!!!!
When my dotcom lost our t3 we had to go colo. i used nyi.net for awhile. they were cheap but you got what you paid for. our price was relatively close to what their price configurator turned out. Our ceo did manage to work out a bit better deal. that was definitely a "Cheap" operation. it was basically what I would have if my buddies and i put up a colo facility. they were fully redunant in the network but the ac was just a big window ac. i had to add some scripts to my monitors to watch my cpu temp on my suns b/c they had no idea if the ac went out. I would call them and tell them to fix the ac. there was no security to speak of (cameras and pin access door). nobody around after 6 etc... Though on the plus side they didn't go down after sept 11th and they were only about 4 blocks away. the building ac was down but the network kept on humming (of course I had to turn off some machines b/c of heat and I didn't know how long it would last but i was still impressed)
anyway, before i left that company we moved our equipment to globix. we ended up w/ 2 full cabinets at globix w/ 2mb pipe for about $1500/mth. that was after MUCH bargaining. when we moved there I really realized how cheap nyi was. I no longer got network 'blips' on my monitors and everything just seemed better.
of course now, i have stepped up a bit. just for kicks....
our current setup is just under $1mil
costly, but we make more than we spend so it is all for the best. B)
The question is not asking if Yahoo hosting for $19.99 is better than Globalhosting's $24.99 deal, where you are paying someone to allow you to use THIER computer on THIER network according to THIER rules.
The person is asking where HE/SHE can put HIS/HER machine in front of a T-1 for a small fee. in short they are looking for "Colocation"
"Colocation is a cost effective hosting solution for companies that own their own hardware and wish to house their server in one of our secure, state-of-the-art Internet Data Centers and manage their own Web site applications."
for that I would go with clearblue.com
Ave Molech Setting
Customer service is inconsistent at times but the price is great. I thought they would never survice the dot.com bubble burst but they did! More power to them.
They're all Linux based, with PHP and Python, basic mail and DB (MySQL maybe?). They have different packages. Check them out. NoMonthlyFees.com.
there's no place like ~
I pay $5 a month for "unlimited" web space and email Hostonce.com
This is my
any amount is to much. These fuckers are riping you off. and you fudgepackers are incourageing them. Go to fucking hell you newbie lamers.
WTF is your problem with Hillary Clinton? You anti-clintonites are so damn pathetic its funny.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
I pay $200 a month. They gave me free install when I signed up in June of this year.
For the $200/month I have colocation of my own 1U server at a local place (in McLean, VA). The colo facility has a 1 gig Ethernet connection to gnaps.net (MAE-East). They also have a couple of T3s for backup to UU.NET and Level3. I have 50 gigabytes of transfer allowed per month, and pay $2/gigabyte over that if I exceed it. I have a 100mb/s Fast Ethernet port to the server. I can sustain about 60-70mb/s when I'm transfering files from my office to there. I have a single 120V 15A plug on their UPS with Diesel Generator backup.
The colo room isn't nearly as nice as our computer rooms here at work, but it is clean and not cluttered. The folks there are great to work with as well, and have did hands & eyes service for me when a kernel patch didn't work.
If we'd allow employees to colo here, then I'd obviously colocate here. But evidently some folks ruined that by hosting porn and businesses before I ever got here. Oh well!
Jay
They may not be the cheapest in the world, but I've been very happy with my 1U coloed at rackmy.com. $45 a month per U of rackspace, $4 per GB transferred, monthly bill. My OpenBSD box there has perfect uptime and consistently fast net access (they're on the Inflow floor in St. Louis). Everywhere I go, I see how the route from X Inflow is routed. They seem to have a LOT of redundancy. That's *good*.
One little box, 1 IP address, 150 domains, and I never have to think about it. Ever.
Plus, whenever I go to St. Louis, there's free food in the fridge for me. That's customer service!
2,000+ Pals dead, only 600+ Israeli's dead, who's terrorizing whom here? I'm sure that 95 year old lady they blew away just HAD to be a terrorist, right?
I'm using a small local provider that somehow escaped unscathed from the raping of most of the local providers here (they all pretty much went out of business or were bought by large national/regional shops). I believe they charge us about US$200/month to get 1 IP address and 1 100mbit ethernet port. They have DS3 connectivity, and we get charged extra if we go over 10GB of traffic per month. They give us a small locked cabinet (1/4 of a rack) that could probably fit about 10U of equipment. They have multiple grid feeds from the power company to reduce the likelyhood of total outage, but you're on your own for supplying a small UPS for your equipment. Prices go up for more GB/month and/or more IPs and ethernet cables.
11*43+456^2
I'm currently using a great host (Spiderhosts). Its costs $15.29 a year, thats a $1.28 a month. I get:
Telnet/SSH access
WAP support (for mobile devices)
Web based Email access
10 POP mail accounts
Unlimited Email forwarders
Default catch all email account
Cron Jobs
MIME types and Apache handlers configuration
2 types of shopping carts
C, C++, Perl and PHP4 support
Raw access logs
3 statistics software
1,000 MB monthly transfers
and then some.
This is not a dedicated machine, but it sure feels like it. Site has never gone down except for a scheduled server move which I knew about ahead of time. Also their customer support turn around time is always under 24 hours and they also offer electronic ticketing to track help requests online.
No phone support, but for the cost, its well well worth it.
"Unlike most of you, I am not a nut." - Homer J. Simpson
<rant>
Gee, you go to their service-check page --- and instead of ONLY a surface address, they REQUIRE you to enter first name, last name, email address - even a damn apartment number (check it, it's required, damn PHB's!).
I don't care what their reputation is. This is (e)mailing list construction, using known good, live addresses. And today, while being slashdotted, they even know target demographics. Only a sucker would actually fill this out. Sheesh.
Even if they only get a 1% conversion rate on that page, they are going to make tons of $$ with this scam^H^Hheme.
No thanks.
</rant>
CmdrTaco: Did you see the latest bill for our website - aack! We've got to stop posting such big stories, or else we're going to have to find another provider.
michael: or maybe if we just stopped posting the same stories twice...
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"And may your days be long upon the earth."
I have become a big fan of my webhost, phpwebhosting.com. $10us/month gets you a Linux shell, 250megs of space, your own cgi-bin, php, perl, ruby, c/c++, etc. (no embedded perl or ruby yet, though). Your own mysql db (with more by request) which you can mess with either using the cli util via ssh or with phpmysql web interface. Their tech support has always been fast and helpful.
I'd highly recommend them. And no, I don't work for them either. But they've been hosting my site for about a year now with no problems whatsoever.
I really don't :-; I haven't written it yet, let alone tried to get it online where other people can see the mess that I made of it (apart from the very few that I've already done...)
I'm just starting my own corporation, with web design & hosting services. So this one came at very good time for me to see what people are really paying for.
Nope, i do not offer dedicated hosting although, and currently everything is hosted on pretty sucky connection (512/256) but will be changed on nearby months to 2Mbps/512Kbps or 1Mbps/1Mbps for starters, depends on which i get the upstream relative cheaper.
Currently i offer mainly to those whom i've designed web pages but others are allways welcome, and i try to charge low.
Basic package is 5e/month + small setup fee (setup fee is ment to cover future service expansion, administering costs, initial tech support costs... yes they tend to call me 'how this thing works?')
and basic service includes 50mb hd quota, 1gb bw quota, 1 vhost, ftp access.
I have made a prices list page quickly to http://hosting.czn.ath.cx, this site only contains prices, tech support contacts etc... for now. The real thing is being built atm.
The real 'beginning' will be beginning of next year when i change the connection is changed and domains will be finally available then. (Nope, not yet available, i'm having trouble with my current ISP, etc...)
and currently we do not keep any hard limits for the service, get the basic service and use ie. 75mb of hdd, not a big thing.
Yeah this is more like an ad than comment, sorry for that.
Pulsed Media Seedboxes
i pay $200US for 2U of space, 32 ips and 900GB of transfer. overage is $1/GB.. pretty good deal i think, my box is on a fully burstable 100Mb switched port and the facility has multiple OC48 connections to various telcos.. just gotta shop around. they dont hold your hand through anything, but who cares.
Really, you're only going to be pumping out at T1 rates? That's slow. A P200 computer could handle that. Put all of your stuff on ONE decent 1.x GHz machine and save yourself the money on rackspace. If you really need a lot of processor power for the database, get a dual CPU system.
Their support has been decent (I say only decent, since it typically takes them a half day to get back to an issue) but they've always dealt with issues well, and never ignored any. Their uptime has been 100% as far as we can tell for over a year now.
When you figure the cost of the hardware, these guys are essentially giving away the bandwidth, which sort of makes sense given that they appear to be buying it at $1000 per 100 Megabit from Cogent.
I have no website. I have better things to do than have a website about my stupid, faggy life. Like there are actually people out there who want to hear about my bullshit opinions and see pictures of my dog named "Shit."
I've used Hostway for over 5 years now. I know they're not the cheapest (I think I pay $19.95/mo), but I get great features, great monitoring and usage statistics and tracking, as well as great CS. I once emailed them at 4AM on a saturday morning them about a login prob on an ASP config file and got a reply in less than an hour. I know there's cheaper, but when I need CS, it becomes important.
---Vixx---
Okay, so my website is hosted by the university that I attend, so I suppose the package deal (including room and board) isn't that bad...I mean, I get a BA out of it in the end as well! -tcp
Count your blessing.
You only use 2% of your DNA
the range of responses show the range of options.
Also the variety of vocabulary we use.
Hosting is going to be shared hosting [$35./month],
then possibly a dedicated server [$?/month],
then colocating your own box in a data center [$50./U + bandwidth].
If you can read German, maybe this is for you:
A dedicated server (1U, hardware included), fixed IP, plus registration of one domain name of your choice for 50 Euro/month at 1und1.com. Offer is called "root server L".
Oh, and 50GB free traffic/month included.
You're paying extra for any service that exceeds rebooting the box, though.
Heh, too funny. I live about 5 minutes away from their colo facility.
:-)
My employer is taking bids on colo service right now, and they are quite competitive. They'll let you burst too, which I've noticed many providers won't. It's something to watch out for, it prevents "surprise" bandwidth bills when your site gets linked to from slashdot.
Super questions, but what about some answers?
I'm in the market for a server, and these are much better questions thatn I could think of, but I'm not sure what the answers should be.
I pay $250.00/yr. I get a lot of perks. Support, unlimited email accounts, FTP access, a library of scripts and more that I don't even comprehend. It looks like I am paying a lot from what I glanced over. That's disturbing.
Lee
www.jubchuqun.com/lee
I host my site for only $1.50 per month! 2M Host: Basic hosting at a very low price.
Erielink.com has co-lo for $200.00/mo. that includes 30KBYTES continious monthly average and is multihomed using BGP4.
i'd recommend owenrudge hosting, costs me £15 a year for 250MB webspace, PHP, MySQL, 1GB transfer per month etc.
Software Freedom Day!.
through a Canadian hosting company. I get unlimited bandwidth and unlimited storage space, but not my own server. Includes PHP a MySQL database perl etc. Unfortunatley I can't say who they are. It's cheap because they're still a small company, and I don't want slashdot to squish them and ruin my good thing!
The (Hopefully) Great Slashdot Blackout Apr 21-27
I run my web server from home and my ISP pays for the bandwidth!! ;)
I'm on my second warning though, these posts should give some good info on where to start shopping...
Or i could just switch ISPs again.
www.madeofwinandawesome.com
Despite the silly name, I use GoDaddy for personal hosting.. $9/mo with more options and resources at my disposal than I can shake a stick at! I highly recommend.
I'm thinking of colocating myself in my closet ;-)
;-)
There is at least one company offering uncapped (As far as monthly transfer cap) internet on the fastest DSL lines available here... http://www.tht.net has unlimited 3500/800 lines (Translates into roughly 640kbit upstream after overhead) for 70$ CDN per month.
It's a bit pricey, but the thought of 640kbit of unlimited upstream to do with as I please is making me drool, and I'm thinking of shelling out the extra dough to go from my current capped 3500/800 line over to THT... Once I'm with THT it seems I will be able to worry about saturating the connection rather than saturating my transfer limit
Oh, and they're server friendly too. www.x-crew.net has a 14 player Natural-Selection server hosted on a resold (through cuic.ca) THT line.
We used to have a bunch of servers at an Exodus IDC in co-lo. Exodus service was great. Lots of bandwidth, responsive tech support, etc... BUT their sales team totally screwed us over and overcharged us. When this continued for months and we heard from others this was a common practice, we jumped ship.
We are now on managed servers from Rackspace. KILLER. Don't have to worry about hardware costs and we get great support from them. Fast connections, great service, no hassles. Rackspace rocks.
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If I get a T1 in my home/biz for lets say $1000 a month I can get way more than something like 400gb in one month (according to my sloppy math, a T1 could push 400gb in about 3 days). Sure I have to take care of my own boxes, but software-wise - I do already. Hardware-wise it just means better and cheaper upgrades. Not to mention I have a spiffy T1 for my own use. For hands-on types of folks - isnt this a viable option?
I don't pay jack. I gots teh hookups, a nice server on a 43 (about) megabit line, 1 megabit international. Its nice having relatives that can hook you up.
They don't offer telnet/ssh access with their accounts, but it's not neccessary as anything you want/need installed they do for you. You are basically free to do what you want with your service and I have yet to have a problem with them on anything. I wanted PHP4 and they installed it when they got my email and I was setup the same day I emailed them. There's other features from xeran, here's a few quick links:
Hosting plans
Reseller accounts (Basically you can host webpages through them)
They also offer co-location and dedicated server, but I don't see why you'd need that. What most everyone does with me is register a domain then they use dns from MyDomain and do a blind redirect to a subdirectory of my site. So they have their own
For Example:
Main Site (dugnet.com)
monkeypirates.org
www.dugnet.com/monkeypirates/
If you notice the last two look alike, but the address is different. It helps to know someone who is willing to offer some free space for sure, just ask all the moochers on my site
Ignore the "p2p is theft" trolls, they're just uninformed
You've just advised people to engage in a behavior which can justify their termination.
Holy shit -- they'll kill you for that? Dude, time to get a new job.
-Waldo Jaquith
I started with this service 4 months ago, GREAT SERVICE. A friend of mine was using them 8 months prior to that, no complaints from him either. Inexpensive too (I have the $29.95/year plan). They seem to use almost all Open Source software, but you can get frontpage extensions installed (and subsequently uninstalled) for no extra charge.. not that you'd want to ;-) -- drawbacks are that you can't have huge online file archives, or serve "pr0n" - sorry if this was your plan. But great service none-the-less.
primesource-hosting.com
Palestinians are Terrorists Too!
Muhammad was a Terrorist and so are All Muslims!!
OK, believe it or not "xpane" may be a shipping product late next year. In the meantime I have used it to post my "personal rant", figuring that "I view the world through my xpane" .
Anyway there have been no problems updating the pages with Microsoft FrontPage 2000. Powweb.com has also promptly answered about two "idiot" questions I posted to their Email support.
This would likely not be your choice if you want pre-fried E-commerce and so forth. I figured to possibly make a buck with Amazon Associates and this is fine for that.
PG
Sole Proprietor
xpane.com
I've set up numerous sites for clients, and myself over the last few years, and now exclusively host on US servers even though I'm in the UK. The reason? bandwidth charges. The standard UK hosting packages give around 5GBpm which is wholely unsuitable for even a medium traffic site - and the charges per GB after that are extortinate. At least, that's my experience. I think it's laughable that so many "packages" quote 1GB disk space, plus DB, and all the bells+whistles, then limit the bandwidth so much it's impossible to make use of the space anyway!
;-)
Mind you, I'm having my own problems with my current host for my personal site (Liquid Web) - they ignore questions - such as why the server hosting my site is rebooted every few days, and constantly runs with a load avg of 20+ making it sluggish and often serving incomplete pages... starting to rant here now, time to stop
Code, Hardware, stuff like that.
Level3 sells us bandwidth at $190/mbps/mo
I've had a pretty good time on qwk and my plan is outstanding for the fee I pay. Only 250 for 500megs and 10 gig/month transfer.
They're also primarily run on linux if you're into that thing..
www.qwk.net
Unix is a standard, DOS is a standard, windows XX is not.
I have nothing but good things to say about Speakeasy. The few times I've called tech support, they've had competent people on the line. One time, I even called for help in reconfiguring the IDSL bridge I bought for $30 on eBay, to save a $250 equipment charge from Covad. The guy found the proper documentation pretty quickly, and talked me through it.
But it is $90 for IDSL speeds of 14.4k up/down. A bit slow, but then again, I do live in the middle of nowhere...
I've been using Ehostsource.com in combination with Dyndns.org for DNS
DynDns for a $30 one time fee will set you up with a great little webapp you can use to configure almost anything in the DNS you want in real time (including DNS ttl)
Ehostsource is cheap, really cheap, Customer service and the (SUN) server are a little slow at times, but the service rocks for the price. They provide DNS but I prefer the Dyndns service by far.
EHostSource:
$5.75/month
free setup
500 MB Hosting
50 GB Transfer
Unlimited email
20 Sub-Domains
FrontPage 98/00/02
PHP4/Perl
webadmin app
web/pop3 mail
SSI/mySQL
Daily Stats
Daily Backup
Web Control Panel
FTP/SSH Access
Shell Account
30 Day $$ back gaurantee
www.timcomputer.com
They dont have fixed pricing you usually call up a consultant and they will talk to you and see what you want and what you need. After understanding you need. They can provide you with Web Access, Shell Access, FTP, SSH, PC Anywheres, basicly any protocal you need, Backups, Shared or Dedicated server (Solaris, Linux or Windows (if you really need it)
They concitrate towards buisness use I have heard of prices between $4 to $250 per month depending on your needs.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
My ISP gives me free space for my web page!
Isn't that great!
You're very welcome for this bit of wisdom.
About uptime/downtime/tech support - for ten bucks, I'd say it's one of the best deals around. I used to host stuff on HostPro for more than twice that much money and had really crappy throughput and, frankly, an annoying web-admin interface. Tech support was also bare minimum.
So far, he.net has been responsive, has great throughput, and a great shell environment to do admin stuff from. My only real complaint is that vim was compiled april 2001, which broke on my .vimrc.
But, anyway, if it all turns to shit and I decide I don't like it, I can always go somewhere else -- there's no year or 6 month contract, and payments are made monthly.
_khl
We can offer data transfer on an off-peak basis for a large volume site over 500 Gigs a month for $1.50 per Gig. Our peak period lasts only 3 or 4 days around the end of the month, and the rest of the month we have up to 14 Mbps available for offpeak use. We would arrange for a throttled connection that would guarantee a minimum amount of bandwidth in peak times and plenty of bandwidth in the offpeak times. This would be well suited to an FTP service with or without a queuing mechanism for the peak periods. Though our company is located in Australia, we run a 24 by 7 operation with Datacenters in the US and Australia. If anyone is interested, or knows someone who might benefit from this kind of a deal, please let me know.
When I first signed up with HE.net, the $200 rate was for 1U or 2U of rack space, but I'm quite sure they sent me a card more recently quoting the same rate for 4U of space. I think they offered a half-rack for a really good price (maybe $400 per month?). Their rates might be cheaper now, or they may have different specials. You didn't say what size or shape your three servers are, so I have no idea whether your equipment could fit in 3U of space, or might need 12U or even as much as 21U. (A rack unit, or RU, is 1.75 inches vertically, by something like 26x39 width and depth, sorry I don't have the actual dimensions handy.)
They provide all the features of a good colo facility: enclosed, locked racks (so someone servicing a machine in another rack can't knock out your cables, as sometimes happened with other colo providers I used); 24/7 staffing and access if needed; UPS and air conditioning; staff that will power-cycle your server at no charge, and they even hooked up a monitor and keyboard to see what was wrong when my server's power supply failed, and they didn't charge extra for that. I think they also have the fancy oxygen-reducing and fire-suppressing equipment.
I was extremely happy with Hurricane Electric, by far the best of my three experiences with colocating a server in the area. They have facilities in San Jose and Fremont, California.
Beware: When I was shopping for colo services, I often found that the salesman's claims were not honored in the contract or in practice. One colo provider told me for THREE months that my outages were not their fault, then when I spent money and proved they were at fault, they agreed and allowed me to terminate my contract, but wouldn't make good on any promises (thankfully I did not sue, since they filed for bankruptcy several months later).
In some cases, you may be promised 24/7 access, but when you need access at 2am you find out that there is no staff from midnight to 8am and the on-call tech just refuses to come out because he's really tired and you're not an important customer. Or they promise redundant internet connections from multiple backbone providers, but they are connected to those providers through a single Pacific Bell T1 line (e.g. they had one T1 line that connected to a facility served by multiple backbone providers, but if the T1 line is lost, your connection is lost). And of course, with the domino of bankruptcies of colo providers, many facilities close with only a week's warning, and sometimes a facility may be closed and your equipment disconnected and shipped to another facility without your knowledge -- so your server is offline for several days, and then when you want to pick it up from San Jose, you find out it was shipped to Virginia.
Read the fine print in your contract.
-- http://www.MarkWelch.com/ Pleasanton California
Personally, I've worked with almost every type of provider that you can use. From T1's in houses and T1's and DS3's in offices/office buildings, to Gigabit uplinks in colocation facilities.
:)
Colo's are probably your best bet. The prices are cheaper, because you don't have to pay for the local loop (the line run from your local telco's closest point, to your location). You just pay the port charge, and a bit of rent for the cabinet itself. Depending on the provider, you pay for part of the cabinet that you use, or the whole thing and it's yours exclusively.
Personally, I'd only take an exclusive cabinet. You lock it up, and no one can accidently do anything. You may think it's ok, til someone accidently tugs on a loose network connection or power cable at 3am someday.
Before you move into a colo, check out their bandwidth. Do something simple like running traceroutes to a machine in that cabinet, or on the same provider as you in the colo (most colo's have multiple providers). A friend was checking out a other hosting providers, and when he ran the traceroute, he found it was like 20 hops inside the slowest provider he ever saw.
I can recommend two providers to you now, that I personally know. I've either helped them out, or worked with them in the past. They're on very good connections in good facilities.
http://www.energenesis.com
http://www.l3vip.com
Energenesis specializes is dynamic site development, and they'll host your site also, if that's what you want. They'll also do simple hostings if you want, they have no problem with that.
L3VIP specializes in large bandwidth. You can buy anything from a 10Mb/s uplink to OC/3's and GB connections. Pretty much anything you'd like. Those connections either can go to your location, or (better for you) to a colocation.
Right now, we buy bandwidth from L3VIP, and they made the arrangements and everything for our space in several colo's around the country.
I hope this helps you out.
Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
100MB links, 4u space for $99.00 a year. I've been quite pleased with there service overall.
-- Many men would appreciate a woman's mind more if they could fondle it
I have the Tigerdirect Lindows computers, available with SUSE 8.0 Professional installed, a complete server, connected on a 10/100 backend, available for $35 per month for rent to developers over the age of 18 only.
The connection is a business dsl connection, very generous (many gig) uploading to the server, and a gig or three available bandwidth per month from the server to the internet. I may allow more, don't remember the details at this moment. Additional bandwidth over the alloted is available at extra cost. I'll throw in another gig of server to internet bandwidth for backups if they are done between specific hours (ie: 3-5 am Eastern time) for the same cost.
It is a very reliable adsl pipe, ideal for developers and low traffic web sites.
The offer includes one ip address, with more available as an extra cost option. The server, as mentioned earlier, is the TigerDirect 1.3 GHz Duron/128K memory, 10 Gig harddrive, cd rom, floppy, 10/100 ethernet on motherboard, usb, modem, etc. I'll upgrade the server at slight additional monthly cost, and will also consider a different setup for a different monthly cost.
Make a list of the software you want from SUSE 8.0 Professional (or SUSE 7.3 Professional), and I'll load it for you, and do a system update from SUSE's site prior to going live and handing over the keys to you. Or if you prefer Red Hat or Mandrake, send me copies of the CDs, with a list of desired software, and I'll load that as well. I'll try other distros as well, but have no experience with them. SUSE 8.1 Professional should be available soon, and if you send it to me, it's available immediately.
I'm flexible. I'm simply looking to defray the cost of the connection. If you don't have a static ip address, are tired of blocked ports (no blocked ports on this connection), don't like dealing with dynamic dns, don't have an extra server to spare, or whatever reason, this is a decent offer. $35 per month, you get ROOT ACCESS to the box.
If you simply need to host a static html web site, low traffic, I'll do that as well. $10 per month, with discounts down to $5 per month for resellers. It's a virtual hosted Apache server, and email server accounts are not available yet. You'll have to use an email domain located somewhere else for your email address on the site for the next few months.
I can include an email address of yourcompanyname@myisp.com, which includes web mail remote access if you want, 20 MB size mailbox. This is a temporary solution, and once I have an email server running, this offer will be withdrawn, and the email killed after sufficient notice to you.
The site is in Queens, NYC, NY. No onsite access is available. No long contract to sign. Pay per month to start, you like the service, pay quarterly. Don't like it, free to leave any month you wish.
If you are planning on using this offer for spamming, port scans, attacks or other illegal or troublesome activity, forget it. I'm going to require hefty identity info, a reference, and you'll have to agree to be responsible for damages, and having your information turned over to my isp if there are any allegations of misconduct.
Due to the p2p file sharing brouhaha, this is also out. No mp3s, porn, or anything else that will cause my connection to be shutdown, blackholed, sued, etc.
I've read slashdot long enough to know not to post an important you know what here. So try this throwaway one: badatans3TAKEOUTALLTHECAPSANDSENDTHISTOaolPERIODc
The above is not my normal you know what. So give me time to answer. And if we do this, you'll get a pager number for 24 hr access to us for emergencies, reboots, etc.
I'm sure there are cheaper and free services out there. My offer, with ROOT ACCESS is above. Email server is coming shortly, database access may be coming second quarter next year (no additional charge anticipated),and two dns servers, one onsite, and one offsite on a different network/isp is available now, with another dns server on site going live in the next few weeks.
I pay 150$ a month to colo a mid-tower at a place in orlando called AO.NET.
There service leaves a bit to be desired with about 2 days of downtime a year.
celer
My partners and I spend $US30 per month for our website, hosted by pair.com. I'm not sure, depending on your usage, if you would need separate processors for web, search, etc.
http://rackshack.net/ by far the best hosts i've found, $99 a month for a celeron 1.3ghz with 512mb ram, and 60gig hard drive ($109 if you want the one gig ram). excellent connectivity, supports a bit lacking, but who needs it, its just an extra charge which i dont need, dont want anyone else stuffing with my server
I'm me. I think.
Ok, this story is eerily posted the same day I discovered what looks like a gem! (Please, someone, prove me wrong)
.. Celeron 1.7GHz, 512M RAM, 80G HD, *500GB transfer*, for $99 a month with no setup!!! WTF? .. Towards the upper end, a P4 2.0GHz w/ 1G of ram and 120GB HD and 3 TERRABYTES of transfer for $299/month.
.. Sure, they do that too. $1/month. 500GB transfer. Zero setup fee. And $49/month per 1U.
.. My current contract (OH, BTW, unitedcolo doesn't even require a contract! it's month 2 month!) .. current contract expires in april, and you better believe I'm switching to these guys and pulling out my pogolinux-built linux boxen and having some fun toys for the home.
I'm currently paying $400/month for 50G of transfer ($2.50/G for extra) and 4U of space. 2 IPs. These are my own machines, so it's just colocation charge.
So, if anyone has seen what's been going on at newzbin.com, they had some illegal stuff posted, and their ISP (unitedcolo.com) gave them a couple options: term their contract, or rebuild the server (to wipe out the illegal stuff).
On their rant page (newzbin.com), they gave a link to their provider. (http://www.unitedcolo.com).. What do I see?
Dedicated Server
Cough.
Colocation?
They even go as far as saying you're free to host your own porn sites if you wish. They just don't want anything on their network that's infringement - because everyone has an upstream provider (even the big boys) who don't take kindly to it. So I understand why they're giving newzbin.com a hard time.
SO. What's the catch here?
For an x86 server running Linux from Rackspace. Full control. You can dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda and they won't care. Survived a slashdotting with no trouble at all.
There are places that are cheaper of course, but I have full confidence in Rackspace, and I believe if I'm satisfied, there's no reason I should abandon my business with them.
It's getting to be important these days.
Slackware Linux: $0.00
Apache + PHP: $0.00
Not having to pay someone 'else' to host 'your' site: Priceless.
There's some things money can buy, but for those who don't have money, there's always Linux.
Webmasters.com are really good
They offer 99.5% uptime, 20 gig/month, 750meg storage, and all for 9.95 per month.
Mess with the best. Die like the rest!
100$ a year covers
* some stuff takes an additional 10$ onetime setup fees.
I pay $60/month for DSL with 6 fixed IP addresses and host 4 domains on my own server... an old Sparcstation 5/110 I picked up used for $100. The $40/mo DSL service around here only gets you 1 dynamic ip addr. I figure $60/mo for fixed ip addrs with 1.5mps inbound and 768kbps outbound ASDL ain't too shabby of a deal... practically a poor-man's T1 line. And the old Sparcstation 5 runs Linux for hundreds of days at a time without reboot, last time I took it down was to add another 64MB memory I bought at a swap meet for $20. Doesn't hardly use any electricity either, only has a 150w power supply, puts out very little heat or noise either.
That is all.
All I have to do is crack jokes about liberals every so often and I'm good to go. That's the joy of knowing someone who a) isn't technically inept when it comes to security and b) has a ridiculously fat pipe for the sake of having a ridiculously fat pipe.
Well, I'm still a student at the Menlo School, which is a pretty good school. Among other things, it offers a server for student use: thibs. Shell access, virtually unlimited web and file sharing space --- it's great. Beat that!
TANSTAAFI: There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free iPod.
Back in 1998, I discovered that my 7am.com website was generating some pretty heavy traffic and decided that I needed a decent US-based provider on which to host it.
:-)
I chose Tierranet and was certainly never disappointed.
Within a few short years, 7am.com grew to become the world's most widely syndicated web-based news service, delivering news headines through its Java-based news ticker more than two million times a day across a network of more than 200,000 third-party webpages -- and it really started gobbling up bandwidth.
From memory we were doing 15GB-20GB and servicing 2-3 million HTTP requests per day on average.
TierraNet has always provided exceptional service, outstanding performance and brilliant support.
Although I'm no longer involved in the day-to-day operation of 7am.com, I still have several smaller sites hosted with TierraNet and I'm just as happy.
When my Jet-powered gokart page was slashdotted a while back, the service had absolutely no problems keeping up with the load. There were around 40,000 visitors in just a few hours and even though most of these downloaded videos and other large objects, the server didn't blink an eye.
All the usual diclaimers apply -- I don't work for Tierranet, I'm not a shareholder, I don't get a commission, I have no relationship with them other than as a very satisfied customer for about six years now.
They're not the cheapest -- but if you're looking for bullet-proof hosting with great support then I'm damned if I've seen better value anywhere (and yes, I've looked
luckily for me, i use namezero for my domain name. it costs 20 bucks a year for forwarding. i forward the site to my web server at home in nyc, where i connect to the internet with road runner...but i get road runner for free, so it works out well for me...furthermore, they dont block port 80, so it just makes it dandy for me!!!
Mega Bit is an amount of information. Bandwidth is the amount of information per unit time. Often times you'll hosting advertized with a figure in gigs/month, and thats a literal term. Something like $20 for 20gigs/month. Just look through these other posts in this thread.
What you mean is $800/mb/second/month, or simply $324/Tb/month, if you saturated your pipe the whole time.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
I second that "csoft sucks" bit. I've never seen so many problems. Downtime that actually lasted for days at a time. Hard drive crashes, and then they try to pretend nothing happened, restoring last week's backup like no one will notice! They used to have to reboot one of their OpenBSD boxes daily. Stupid billing problems. The list goes on...
-jerdenn
In SOVIET RUSSIA, websites pay you to host them
Don't throw stones at the guys carrying guns. Whats the big mystery here? They provoked and brought an attack on themselves.
And god does it feel good. I just mooch off a friend's page and all is well. Only real problem is the extended url (2 folders deep) and lack of 'large' space but then again, I barely use it for anything important.
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It is not the horror of war that troubles me, but the unseen horrors of peace.
I pay nothing because I offset the cost hosting other people's sites. But that answer is glib and unhelpful, let me elaborate...
...real hosts tell you the kbit/s rate you're buying, which is how they buy it). So I leased a Cobalt RAQ (the worlds shittiest machine, but with a lot of tools to help out people who are idiots with UN*X and would otherwise seriously F up the machine) along with 6 of my friends.
I was faced with the problem two years ago that my website was entirely too popular to continue running on a little PC in my basement but not popular enough to ever make any money. Furthermore, the sheer amount of content -- close to 5 gig of photos and movies I've worked on -- and my SQL/JSP needs placed me in the "Enterprise" class of most static web hosts.
I was looking at $100+ per month. For about the same price, I could lease a server with a very low 50 GB transfer limit (by the way, the pay per gigabyte thing is a sure sign your host is catering to the low end
It was supposed to be a co-op deal...everybody pays their fair share and can do what they like with it. But the other 5...well...they never paid me. Never do business with friends. So at the behest of a siteop I knew I hosted a guy for $10 a month and a free set of guitar strings. The price kind of stuck, so I adjusted the resources available to the machine until I could divvy them up fairly at $10 per month without taxing it while still keeping room for my things. Much the same way that you might divvy up an apartment building, which is why I chose the name "webslum." I work maybe 5 hours a week on the server, and charge a little extra for things that need more maintenance (SQL support is the big one).
The price is actually sort of steep for bottom of the barrell housing, but this guarantees the server will never get overloaded and that I'll always have time to answer questions personally. It also means that less goes wrong and solutions are simpler...and that means less down time (something like 99.98% uptime, beat that Geoshitties).
A lot of people are offsetting their server costs by getting a good deal for more than they need and selling the excess. In fact, our next server host did just that -- signed a desperation deal with a flailing ISP and began selling space in their racks for peanuts. We're going to take our share of that space and sell even more space and bandwidth for $10 a pop. It's like those emails I get about pyramids and tony robbins, only it actually works. The only trick is having to be rather clever.
Hey freaks: now you're ju
Yah there's some sound reasoning, killing a kid (majority under 13) for throwing a stone against a fully equipped soldier is fully justified because he should have known better. Do you think you or any one else would stand for that happening to a little kid in what ever country you come from. Do these kids matter less to you some how? It seem I might smell a bigot here.
You can get a free name that follows your dynamic IP from http://dyndns.org/, drop the static block and save $15 per month.
Israeli "settlers" look a lot like whites vs American Indians
Uh, Palestinians were either paid for their land or they willfully left it with promises from other Arab countries they could have it back after they (the Arab countries) conquered Israel. That's why they're still in 'refugee' campes 50+ years later.
Oh, and the Israelis gave them votes and representation in the government, but that wasn't good enough.
Face it, the Palis are idiots who will never get ANYWHERE.
wouldnt posting pricing of hosting/colocation be a violation of the dmca in the same context wal-mart and others are using it?
I put all my experience / recommendations on a site here. This is the best quality/value combination I have found. I used to colo, but now this is all I need!
- Hosting Guide http://www.mirical.co.uk -
Children in the back cause accidents. Accidents in the back cause childr
I use johncompanies to host a coupla domains now, and they're pretty good. I'd give them a better review, but I have a few experiences that have made me not as happy as I could be:
I've had this happen 2 times already:
- changing the perms on
/dev/kmem so that only root could read it (broke top for normal users, security risk according to them)
- disabling daily/weekly/monthly crontabs in
/etc/crontab. This was to avoid daily reboots of the box when everybody's daily cronjobs would trigger at the same time and take it down.
Both times, I emailed them asking what was going on, and asking them to at least notify me whenever they change files in my jail. I emailed them a couple of times over the course of 2 months about the crontab disabled thing. I got "we're still looking into that" and then no replies. I later re-enabled it in my jail.Despite those issues, I'm a pretty happy customer, and have even recommended other people to them. If you're really interested in the service, I'd suggest testing it out first to see if it's a good fit for what you want to do.
I'm attempting to reverse "server proliferation" at my LFC* by moving to VMWare on IBM x440 hardware. As long as you have a service level agreement with your hosting provider that suits your needs, why should you insist on separate boxes? Separate instances on the same hardware should be enough.
My current hosting works this way - I have been using vservers/hostpro/Interland for the past four years and have not experienced any outages since a one-hour scheduled window for a network change in 2000. VMs (not virtual domains) are fine for the vast majority of sites out there.
*LFC - Large Faceless Corporation
running Slackware, apache, postphp, jabber, sendmail, imp, mysql, etc. currently hosting 3 domains, about ready to add a 4th. nothing is more fun.
pay ~49$US/month, and it's been rock solid.
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I've been using Spry.com. Unquestionably the best web host I've ever used. Their main offering is the "Root Server", a FreeBSD-jail based shared platform. This gives the flexibility of full root access on a less expensive server-- starting at $60/month. And unlike some other companies, Spry has OUTSTANDING support. Extremely fast, and you'll get a response from someone who actually has a clue.
I believe they also offer colo's, and I'd highly recommend them for anyone needing a rock-solid ISP at a reasonable price.
Pair rocks. I've used it for years. They're rock solid, great customer support, and cheap. I recommend Pair to everyone looking for a domain. I also use Fatcow for one domain. Nice perks for $99/year, but the servers could be faster. Sometimes web response is slow, as is checking mail.
I have five domains hosted by FutureQuest. For that they charge me $14.95/month total. Beyond the first domain, setting up each additional domain was a one-time charge of $25, and the disk and download limits apply to the five in aggregate. For that I get CGI, a great support staff, multiple POP mailboxes ... well, just check 'em out. They're a Linux shop and proud of it!
I work for a web consulting firm, and we've had great experiences sending our clients to Kattare.
Kattare's shared server (well, shared machine, at least) accounts run anywhere from $9 to $54 per month, and they run Apache web server (to deliver static html files) and your own personal copy of Tomcat (via proxy through Apache) for the dynamic pages, they have excellent tech support, and they allow you to run Cocoon (the XML publishing pipeline), PostgreSQL, MySQL, etc.
As for mail service, they allow both POP3 and IMAP mail access (their standard email account is 30 MB disk space) - great for people who are on the go and want to keep most of their mail in a centralized (IMAP) server.
The shared hosting pricing and relative reliability are great for small companies, nonprofits, or even a personal account. They run linux everywhere (with ssh access, etc), they are incredibly prompt when you have a request. Sometimes they have downtime, but they're very quick to recognize fix problems when they arise.
I don't have any personal experience with Kattare's dedicated servers, but I have confidence they would do as good of a job with those as they do with the shared machine hosting. They're a dream to work with, especially if you're big on linux/open source software. In any event, if you're looking for a provider, take a look at their site - you'll probably like what you see.
My friend hosts my site. He runs the whole kit and cabootle from his desktop for free, using DYNDNS to give him a textual URL. All he has to do is pay for the Broadband line.
But his site is relativly low-traffic. It's at http://scanman.mine.nu . Except for a few times where he did something to it, his site has been running almost non-stop, and still does high-process operations. But again, I said his site is relativly low traffic, and may not be for you. He runs an Athelon 750 MHz.
Rawr
Not as many people have heard of them but Savvis has the largest non-telephone company network worldwide. They have nice latency guarantees as well.
I haven't found a more professional copmany to deal with.
For serious business hosting or bandwidth, they've got better support and more knowledgeable sales reps and technicians. Plus you get right through to a real person.
We used to have SDSL through Savvis and when Northpoint went under Savvis gave us an awesome dirt cheap deal on Colo until our T1 got installed.
Disclaimer: I'm a happy customer and a stockholder.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
I'd agree with the autopr0n guy:
bits, bytes, words, nibbles and their kilo, mega, giga, tera prefixes all describe quantities of data.
Bandwidth is expressed in units data per unit time. So megabits/second, bytes/minute, etc...
Bits are a perfectly legitimate unit of data, and if you've ever bought ram then this should be really obvious to you.
Remember, if you host a bandwidth intensive site (not even necessarily tons of visitors, but huge pages -- such as all busy threads on slashdot) use mod_gzip or something similar to it. Slashdot supposedly has mod_gzip installed, but they did not seem to have it configured correctly in the past -- not sure if they do now.
Anyhow, we use it on our properties that have message forums, and we easily take 120K threads down to around 10K per page impression. This could definitely help you save on your bandwidth spikes if you run a burstable or 95th percentile billing with your ISP.
mod_gzip here
Oops. Just thought I'd try to ward off the spelling nazis.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
If you want to do balls-to-the-wall hosting on Linux it doesn't get much better than Dreamhost. All sorts of goodies including PHP, MySQL, dedicated hosting available. These dudes know what the crap they're doing and are bloody fast, responsive, and funny. Don't recall their rates offhand, so check out the site. There's a plan for everything and last I checked they're competitive. I'm grandfathered in at low rates, so I'm happy.
If you're an ASP/.Net M$Slave you can't do much better than MaximumASP. They've got tons of components and despite the fact it's shared hosting it's fast and responsive. Support is top-tier as well and it's cheap at $199, 1GB space, 40GB traffic, etc.
I've had a half rack with 24/7 access at Worldcom Canada in Montreal. Nice data center with everything routed through ceiling railings
Dual-redundant, UPS and Gen-set backed up electrical outlet pairs at every rack (and a third non-backed-up pair for screens, kvm, etc.) They provide you with a Puzzlini failover power bar (near instant switch from primary power cable to secondary, using it, they moved my rack physically by about 40 feets without cutting power or noticeable network outage. That covers electricity.
Bandwidth was a 100 mbps full-duplex linked terminated at a cisco 2640 (I think, the biggest 2600 anyway) in the rack. We had 3 mbps burstable to 7.5 (the limit was so we didn't blow our cap, Worldcom measures bandwidth use every minute or so from the router, throws out the top 5% and bill you for the highest value left over.)
You get the IP block you need. We had 16, but that's what we had asked for.
We had biometric access to the datacenter, then check-in with the 24 hours security guard and we had an electronic locking device for the cabinet (Nice touch, Worldcom staff cannot open cabinet, -24DC on the contacts of the device would... (They were phasing that out I believe for end-to-end biometrics.)
FM-200 (or was it CO2 displacement?) Fire suppression system.
50 feet from the MCI OC-192, 40 feet from the trans-canadian OC-48 backbone...
Multiple redundant massive liebert HVAC units, Power Distribution units and battery banks, 300kw, 700kw and 4mw gen-set (First two worldcom and last one the building.)
We paid about 2100$ in 2000 for it. I don't know their current pricing. It's steep but you can save some by shaving on customer-access (24 hours notice access was 700$ per full rack, versus 700$ per half-rack for 24/7 customer access.)
Please remember these are 2 years old prices in Canadian dollars (USD$1 for CDN$1.56 last I checked)
The system had 500 days uptime until about 57 days ago (Except one, but with 2 blown disks on 3 disks RAID-5 it's not going anywhere). Also, if you don't pay your bill in a timely fashion, they will cut your route quickly. Don't expect them to wait more then 90 days for payment.... I don't know if they take credit card, but they do make quarterly payment arrangements.
Alex, Ex-statisfied customer.
I've been using Rack Shack and have been very happy with the service. They have a very interesting way of selling hosting, they build a bunch of servers, post what they have to their site and you can order and be up and running that day.
The only weird/bad thing I've found is that by default they enable telnet by default. Obviously it's easy enough to turn off but IMHO it shouldn't even be an option.
When punk rock is outlawed, only outlaws will have punk rock.
Up until the time I got broadband, I always bounced from 'free host' to 'free host'. Now, I simply host it myself. A broadband connection, an extra pc and a copy of RH 7.3.
Honestly, I don't require much bandwidth for the sites hosted on my server. However, I prefer the freedom (and yes, i'm a geek, it's fun too) of running my own server. If my bandwidth requirements were to get to be more than my little cable connection could handle, I would spend the money to get more bandwidth. I even host a handfull of sites for my co-workers (for a small fee).
Work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively.
I called them for a quote once. They told me that FreeBSD is insecure and if I run it I will be hacked. They never did give me that quote....
The above is not worth reading.
While 1.5 Mbps is a substantial amount of bandwidth, DSL/cable modems are becoming increasingly common. I maintain a server hosted on a T1 that's mainly used for web browsing during the day, and when I do bandwidth-intensive file transfer from my cable modem, I'm able to come very close to filling the T1. While serving normal webpages does work flawlessly, I just wanted to point out that if you offer downloads -- or even just use lots of images/Flash -- your bandwidth will disappear surprisingly quickly. A single user with a cable modem can be eating up all your bandwidth. (Again, I'm not suggesting that a T1 is now worthless, just advising people -- if the T1 is shared with numerous other sites, if a single one is somewhat active, you may have precious little bandwidth.)
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I have a related question.
I have a bunch of hobby/unfinished sites lying around on different cheap and free hosts all over the place. All have low traffic and space requirements, but need PHP and a database.
Does anybody know any cheap hosts that allow you to run multiple domains from the one account?
I've had very good experiences with phpwebhosting.com and highly recommend them.
basically whatever you want in terms of disk space, data transfer, subdomains, domain aliases, databases etc. for ~$10/mth, they only host 125 (from memory) sites on each box and update to latest version of php regularly.
other people I have recommended them to have also had no problems with them...
I'm planning to get a box at serverbeach (someone has already posted about serverbeach), mainly because I need a dedicated box...
Thats a lot of work. I would just boot from floppy, run my script to zero the passwd, reboot the box, login and put the old root pw back, search the system while its on and running like nothing's wrong.
The above is not worth reading.
I've recently found that 'Virtual Server' Linux accounts are a good compromise between standard shared hosting and a dedicated machine. You get all the appearance of having your own machine with root access at a much lower price (and obviously less resources) than a dedicated machine. I'm paying $29.95 US per month for 2 Gb disk space and 15 Gb traffic. It avoids the usual shared hosting issues of all web scripts needing to be world readable for Apache to read them. Email me if anyone wants to know where. My only connection with them is as a happy customer. tetranz (at) yahoo.com
I don't like the way they have hierarchical tiers. Why not pay for individual levels of features?
For example X dollars a month for a gig of bandwidth, Y dollars per hard-drive space, etc. Even nicer would to be billed for actual usage rather than pre-selected amounts.
However, I suppose keeping track of all this might raise the cost. But if you are a hoster, please keep this in mind.
BTW, what does everybody do with *dedicated* servers and huge bandwidth? Are they actually running dot-coms that survived? interactive remote games? T-shirts? Porn? What the hell requires that much resources?
Table-ized A.I.
It's ridiculous how wrong you are over 1 million Palestinians were FORCED out following 1948, and after the 1967 war another half million were. Want evidence the UN has plenty of info @ http://www.un.org/Depts/dpa/ngo/history.html . Also, why can the Zionists not seem to address any of the issues and questions addressed to them? Is it possible that they are simply speaking from the years of brainwashing they have likely encountered in the US and are unable to back up any of their racist claims with evidence?
hosting start at 8$can for professional and commercial hosting.
www.mytradecenter.com
excellent service
Why, you might ask? Two very good reasons:
For more details see http://www.sdc.org.
Nathan's blog
called MTInteractive. They aren't bad, pretty decent prices, but their design skills aren't top notch, but the hosting is pretty good.
Peace
Twitch
I'm paying less than 15.00 a month for a virtual private server with hostmania.net. There are some oddities, like you can't upgrade the kernel since it is a shared kernel environment. I love the fact that I have root access and can install just about anything. I'm running a qmail virtual domain set up which I really like, but isn't usually available on shared cpanel type hosting. With 3GB of disc space and 30GB of transfer per month, I'm pretty happy. I think the virtual server environments are going to become more and more popular options and definitely give you more flexibility than you get in a typical shared hosting environment. Plus the costs are coming down to the point where it isn't even that much of a premium.
I only came to college to host a server...
www.google.com
http://www.webhostingtalk.com
Hello, I've been a Sevaa(www.sevaa.com) user for about a year now. I've had no problem, that wasn't solved within an hour. Currently, they are in the process of buying an additional server, to help balance the load. I currently get 150k+ dls on a DSL line. As soon as they get the new server, I expect them to be back to normal. Excellent price, excellent service, all around great. You guys/girls should really check them out. Their plans start at $2.50, and include anything you could possibly need. Or, if you need something that you don't see. Send them an email; I'm sure that they'd accommodate you. :)
Randy
AlltheWrongStuff.com
The hosting is separate from the bandwidth offerings.
Verio bought a company called HIWAY.com and that become thier main hosting division. From shared to dedicated.
The rest of Verio is just bought up ISP's around the country. Lotta shop owners got rich in the mid to late 90's selling out to verio, and a lotta people got laid off.
Verio pays the money for the good equipment and they have very good uptimes. But they do cater to spammers. Hell they host most of the websites in the world. When I was there they cut a deal to let Bell South sell Bell South branded hosting on verio Boxes.
You might want to try rackshack.net. I have had great expereince with them
Puto
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
Yeah, someone at HomeLan decided we needed a server. well, now, The Junkyard is hosted on 5 multiple-redundant web servers with a separate MySQL database server. we're sharing some of this with a few other guys, but add to this that we're on a dedicated OC3.... yeah, we don't complain. at all.
grey wolf
LET FORTRAN DIE!
Rack is about $1k/mo.
30A power $100/mo.
Fast Ethernet connection $250/mo.
Bandwidth starts @ $250/Mbps. (minimum 10Mbps)
Was able to obtain a full T1 as many justifiable IPs as needed for $675/month. I also received the same quote from a guy at www.bandwidth.com That was back in April. Just a note, Savvis is a Tier 1 provider. Their service is rock solid. Awesome, proactive tech support. They let me know I'm down before I even realize that I'm down. I found savvis at: http://www.boardwatch.com/isp/bb/n_america.htm
I'm using a shared uk web host with zero bandwidth restriction. It's not the fastest in the world, but I can successfully stream video off it. Details here.
- Hosting Guide http://www.mirical.co.uk -
Children in the back cause accidents. Accidents in the back cause childr
This story does not have and advertisment for
a hosting company?
What?
Either
(a) slashdot is not yet comercialized to death (hope that is the case)
(b) slashdot does not understand marketing.
About a year ago a similar question came up on /. in the replies was a post about this company. 34sp is a British based host provider. They incredibly inexpensive.
About $21.00 a year for the minimum package. You can of course upgrade and pay more. Their email support has been good enough that I have never had to call them.
24.95 a month gets you a slash or scoop site. Click here for more details.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion." - Jed Babbin
I can see how you got your slashdot username. Seeing a phrase like that in a comment making an essentially ungrounded editorial interrogation of somebody excercising the one fundamental power consumers have (warning other consumers about shitty companies like Speakeasy.net), well. "Pot calls kettle black. Film at 11."
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Sounds like you have some "unfinished business" to address, first.
I am very satisfied with them and they do not appear to be very expensive.
- 20 Gb/month data traffic
- 1 IP Address
- 100 Mb/s, kinda cool to install Linux over the internet via a site@University of Amsterdam with 35 Mb/s.
- Traffic statistics+network+server monitoring
- UPS connected
- Climate controlled
- Secure premises
- 90 per 20 gig extra bandwith per month
- I can visit on site during working hours for free to troubleshoot if necessary
- they are situated in Hoofddorp which is close to Shiphol Airport and the Internet HUB in Amsterdam that goes straight to New York.
- I pay 1065.95 euros per year (I get a discount that way) so that would make it about 89 Euros/month
So, any comments/questions?You don't need to see my
$30/month gives me 200 GB of disk space and 12 GB of traffic
no problems during my 6 years of being a customer
try Pair Networks. i've had good experiences, good value, good service. their operation is very diligent, and very much engineering based. they offer sign up and transfer bonuses, an associated NIC, variety of hosting plans from simple FTP only to high volume dedicated (prices are very competitive for the level/quality of service offered). you only need to look around their site at the support, notices, and various other parts of the operation to get a feel for their approach - and there is a distinct community feel.
-- Matthew - matthew.gream@pobox.com, http://matthewgream.net
Any experiences with Infomaniak?
I'm a real cheapskate and all I "pay" is the internet connection, some PC time and some work. I pay nothing, although I get a lot done. The (free) hosters hopefully can get ad revenue because of the focussed and very heavy traffic my sites get.
I have colocation in sweden, 800 USD for 100 mbit. No restrictions on upload/download/ISPs. UPS lasting 30 days and dual internet (redundant) internet connections. The price is for 10 U of rackspace. 40 U is avaliable @ 2100 USD.
Gigabit internet is also avaliable for a small fee.
Only if you like earthquakes .. hosting in Texas is much safer. There hasn't been a tremor in Texas in a few millenia, but it seems like every time you turn around, California is getting shaken up.
FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE connected to a SW Bell DSL service with 5 IP Addresses.
That, plus my regular phone, costs me about $89.00 per month.
And my uptime has been over 130 days.
The day Microsoft creates a product that doesn't suck, it will be known as the Microsoft Vaccuum Cleaner!
For Dedicated hosting, I use HostingFreaks. Their support is wonderful, people are friendly, and if you do things right, they end up paying you for using their support! Yup...kinda interesting.
I disable sigs...do you?
Unless you have the support staff, a high end shared hosting solution may be better value for money. I currently host my company's web site on www.novawebhosting.net because they offer firewalled and clustered solaris web servers as a shared hosting platform ... which means I get a reliable service and a good UNIX environment for under $20 per month!
I just looked at hostmania and they look like a purely MS shop. Where's the BSD option ??
Two wrongs may not make a right, but three
"Forced"? No. When Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and friends invaded Israel, many Arab civilians fled the fighting -- as civilians often do. The Jewish civilians could not flee, because they had nowhere to go. If they'd gone to Arab countries, they'd have been massacred. As it was, the Arab armies killed every civilian Jew they could get their hands on (as they've done ever since). The Arab civilians who stayed behind, and their descendants, have more rights (they vote, hold office, etc.) than Arabs in any Arab nation on Earth have ever head. Notice that it's fantastically rare for Arab Israelis to participate in terrorism: They're in a much better position than Black Americans were in, say, 1950, and the solution to that problem was not terrorism. The solution was to convince the majority that everybody deserved the same rights. Most Israeli Jews agree on that point (read the polls, kid, read the polls), and over time the few remaining inequalities will be fixed, as they always are in any free democracy.
Other facts: "Over a million"? Nope. The highest estimate I've heard is eight hundred thousand. The usual estimate for Jews forced to flee Arab countries in the 1950s is about 850,000, and they really were forced: Everything they owned was confiscated, many were killed, the rest had to run for their lives. Since all those Arab nations created two roughly equal refugee problems, one of which Israel solved for them, you might think they could do something for the Palestinian refugees, eh? But they haven't done shit. Fifty-four years, and they haven't done a damn thing. The lion's share of funding for services to Palestinian refugees has come from the United States, a big chunk from Israel, and another big chunk from Europe. The Arab nations occasionally pledge donations, but they never pay in full. It's shameful: They issue a press release, but they never finish writing all the checks they promise. And the amounts they promise aren't that big to begin with.
Neither side has behaved perfectly, but a reasonable acquaintance with the history involved looks nothing like the paranoid fantasy you're describing. Every nation in the Arab League rejected UN 194 and UN 242, did you know that? Rejected 'em flatly. Most of them are not interested in any reasonable peaceful settlement, and never were. Every time one of them does offer to make peace, Israel makes real concessions and honors its obligations (see Jordan, Egypt). God bless Anwar Sadat; he had balls. The Islamists murdered him, of course.
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-- Depends on whether I get Slashdotted
-- I don't have a website, you insensitive clod!
-- CowboyNeal is my webhost
Texas had more than 100 earthquakes since 1847.
The Alpine quake of '95 (a 5.8!) did some real damage. A 4.2 in '93 could have been deadly, had it been just a few miles closer to San Antonio.
"The Big One" for Texas would have to be a 9 on the New Madrid fault, but that could level Dallas.
So Quakes aren't at anything like the same level of risk as, say, the Bay Area or Pasadena or Tokyo.
The thing to be afraid of in Texas is a Tornado.
Among all the natural forces available, I'd have to say there's NOTHING scarier than ground zero of a tornado. If you haven't experienced this, believe me, you don't want to.
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Check out: We have been using them for a couple of years and are very pleased.
I use SilverServers (www.SilverServers.com) for my commercial clients. Their primary business is shared and dedicated server hosting, however Co-location services are available. Since they're situated in Canada, the pricing reflects is significantly lower than US providers I've seen offering similar service.
Quality is provided through redundant power to the rack (2 separate feeds) both with UPS and Generator backups. There are 2 ~100mbps (BGP4) fibre connections through competing providers, backed up by another (smaller) tertiary connection. The standard ~40U racks are in a climate controlled environment in a seismically stable location. (for those non-tech, the temperature is regulated and it's not near any areas known for earthquakes, flooding or other natural problems).
For dedicated servers, their low-end (advertised) product consists of custom-built system running RedHat Linux, Solaris x86 (being phased out last time I checked), and W2K. They offer custom installs, IDE/SCSI RAID (hardware and/or software depending on budget). For a single P3 machine the price starts at $169/month.
Remember, I'm Canadian so the prices I mention are in CAD. They're a solid provider whom I'd definately recommend, especially for dedicated servers.
I've found that most comparable American providers are most expensive, and the really cheap ones who advertise comparable service often run servers in other countries with cheap service and virtually no support. These guys hosted a major soccer server during the European soccer season, the hits they were getting were huge but the (dedicated) server survived nicely, which leads me to believe that they would also survive similarly in a slashdotting.
p.s. I think they also provide domain name registration, which I found was cheaper than elsewhere (they also host my domain).
A Full FreeBSD Filesystem? What good is that? It would be better if it had some free space in it, to store your own data.
Sorry, I couldn't resist. :-)
Ok, this is how HE works. I hosted an account with them for two years with no problems. I used them from the days when they still had $5 accounts. One day someone sent some spam with a large attachment. The server timed-out while downloading the file. Then locked the email account. I immediately contacted support and within a day they said they fixed it. When I then tried to download my email, the same thing happened. After a couple of rounds they finally fixed it. Which was all fine.
But when my bill for that month came, they charged me $1345!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To make a long story short, all they said was that they weren't responsible for me when I change my password. Eventually they just stopped answering my emails when I pointed out that I hadn't changed my password and that that wasn't the issue. My advice:
DON'T USE HE unless you live close enough to take them to COURT.
http://www.coloco.com
I plan to go with them. 40 GB/month transfer.
You provide the box. $50/month is the quote I
got. They're in Laurel, MD and founded by
Doug Humphrey of Digex fame. I plan to stick a
1U Sun box in there and call it a day. Towers
are a little more.
Go with Caffinated Networks. Outstanding service and support. Saying anything more is pointless, you just have to check it out.
http://caffinated.net/about.html
http://caffinated.net/faq.html
I prefer a void in conversation to a vacuous one.
$1/GB per month is equivalent to $316/Mbps with 50th-percentile (average) pricing on bandwidth. This is equivalent to about $450/Mbps (95th-percentile) for typical daytime-peak and nighttime-lull sites. 95th percentile rates from several large ISPs have fallen below $200/Mbps, and this doesn't even include the Cogent wasteland. Some high bandwidth websites (40Mbps+) get their bandwidth at less than $100/Mbps now.
Someone in this discussion thought $2/GB was "cheap"? They need to look around.
(Disclaimer: I help run an ISP that offers $1/GB/mo as standard bandwidth pricing. To be fair and not look like I'm plugging my service, I'm posting anonymously.)
If you're hosting in their Florida location (one of the major ones), you're in a heck of a facility. It's a section of IBM's big R&D campus in Boca Raton Florida (a small section, but then, the entire facility was *huge*). The buildings are poured concrete (they built big wooden frames, a rebar skeleteton and then filled the frames with concrete - each building section is a single slab of concrete!), and located on the 'inside of 95', meaning they don't have to worry about storm surges from hurricanes. I was hosting in Cybear, another company in the same campus, and my so at the time worked at Hiway.
Nifty facility.
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Evan
"$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
Yeah man, I worked at the Verio in New Orleans and had the privelige of seeing what they do there. Althouh I left Verio for greener pastures, the company does spend the money on its redundancy and protecting its equipment.
Puto
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
... two minutes later Darth Maul gets an email saying that his server rebooted for no apparent reason. Guess he shouldn't have jinxed it. ;-)