The PATRIOT Act is defendable, and would surely pass any constitutional challenges. If you want to whine about certain provisions of the Act, that's fine. But to go and cry about your freedoms being deprives, and the loss of civil liberties is wrongheaded, and misplaced.
I know this is probably an unpopular opinion on slashdot, but I hope the government does go ahead with this plan.
The government isn't really spying on you, per se. They are taking all the public information out there, and data mining it to potentially flag and catch criminals and terrorists.
The crowd here turn into luddites as soon as technology is used by the government, but I think this is a great use for it. The 9/11 hijackers were in plain view, but because of the different agencies and bureaucracies, they fell through. This could be a tool to find the next 9/11 and I am all for it.
Some of these bootleg DVDs and CDs I see being sold on the street look almost like the real thing.
Having this Seal of Approval would at least give me some assurance that I have bought the Authentic thing. I would feel better thinking my money has gone to the creators of of this entertainment, not to those scumbag pirates.
We should all be grateful that the FBI is helping protect the creative individuals of America.
What a horrible submission. Other than the submitter's own words, there's no link to any summary of the case. The docket doesn't show very informative. Instead we have links to the Supreme Court, ACLU, EPIC, EFF (gee, thanks, how else would we have ever found them). And the only link to one side's story is slashdotted.
So where can I actually find a real story that verifies what the submitter is talking about? I would like to actually read about this case.
I love how slashdot works here. I make a few comments on this thread that are ontopic, but against the popular opinion, and I'm modded -1 in no time flat for "flamebaiting".
Meanwhile, a completely offtopic nonsensical Bush hating rant is +4 Interesting.
This 'Union of Concerned Scientists' organization is not just an 'independent organization. Take a look at their website. Just because they are scientists doesn't mean their opinions can be less biased anybody else. It is a bunch of greenie treehuggers.
Finding a few examples of supposed censorship and distortions means Bush = Evil? .
The fact that this story's other references are all noted liberal newspapers and opponents of the Bush Adminstration shows what a leftist propaganda site Slashdot is.
Do you have any real example that even faintly resembles your hypothetical one? Or did you just pull this out of thin air with no basis in reality?
You slashbots seem to think that Free Speech equals Freedom from Consequence. You're confusing "harassment" from prosecution. Of course authorities would take a second look you're an avowed Al Queda supporter. If you're whining that authorities shouldn't even investigate somebody for just words, you don't live in the real world. Those words could indicate you might be an organizer or fundraiser.
So you can still put forth those idiotic views, you only censor yourself because you would be exposed as a fucking moron, not because the wall would be closing in on you by the secret police.
So what you're saying is that if a product or service has lofty ideals and noble ambitions but otherwise is shoddy and virtually unusable, that means it's worthy of more support???
Anybody here take Economics 101 in here?
Hey, if you want to donate, be my guest. But for those that don't like throwing our money down the drain all in the name of "FREEDOM!!", we'll find better use for it.
What occured here looks like corporate espionage and theft, plain and simple.
Whoever leaked this should be caught, and sent to Federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison.
I know everyone here loves to hate on M$ (hahah funny), but nobody deserves to have their hard earned work lifted without their permission.
1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.
Calling Bush a liar or claiming he tells a lie requires believing that he knew for certain the statements he made were false, but still went on anyways.
As David Kay said, we were all wrong.
Being wrong doesn't mean being a liar. The loony lefties like yourself still can't get over that.
Excerpt: Over the last 20 years, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has developed a reputation for being wrong more often than any other federal appeals court.
By both measures, the 9th Circuit was wrong more often than any other circuit in the dozen years Posner surveyed, though 1997
A friend of mine was in Cuba a few years ago, and he says it's a great place.
Of course foreigners are treated great there; that's their meal ticket. Tourism and prostitution are the only real growth industries in Cuba.
A brilliant medical system which is government funded, the streets are absolutely safe at night,
This sounds exactly like the old "Mussolini made the trains run on time" excuse. This sure must make up for the lack of political and economic freedoms.
Maybe if the Cuban govt. let the population see what the rest of the world is really like they'd be less enthusiastic to leave Cuba.
Or maybe if they did, more people would demand change in Cuba and threaten Castro's 50 year iron-fisted rule.
Wal-Mart is implementing this system to better track their inventory and manage it. What privacy right of yours or mine does it affect?
The tin-foil hat brigade on slashdot hates RFID even when it has nothing to do with them. It's amazing that people to immediately defend p2p's legitimate uses, but not RFID.
This is data mining air travel information we're talking about here, not lingerie purchases. Airline travel hasn't been private and unrestricted in 20 years and probably will never be so again.
If you can't figure out why that is so, then you really haven't been paying attention. Airline travel is not a right, and you don't have to fly if you don't like the fact that people are working to make sure some guy isn't trying to hijack passengers or bomb the plane you're on.
I'd really like to see you make a scene at the metal detector and baggage scanner and scream about 'police state!' there and see how far that gets you.
What does this comment have to do with Bush or Rumsfeld or the connection a police state?
A government agency asked a company to provide passenger data, and they seemingly lied about it. That's about it. The fault is with Northwest for not being more forthcoming about it.
The desperation to insert 'Bush/Rumsfeld/Ashcroft is evil' in every item shows how much the Left is falling further into irrelevancy.
Taking pre-orders for upcoming games is nothing new or interesting. That doesn't mean the release date still can't move back. It's still vaporware until it hits the shelves.
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You can't, and the critics can't either.
The PATRIOT Act is defendable, and would surely pass any constitutional challenges. If you want to whine about certain provisions of the Act, that's fine. But to go and cry about your freedoms being deprives, and the loss of civil liberties is wrongheaded, and misplaced.
The government isn't really spying on you, per se. They are taking all the public information out there, and data mining it to potentially flag and catch criminals and terrorists.
The crowd here turn into luddites as soon as technology is used by the government, but I think this is a great use for it. The 9/11 hijackers were in plain view, but because of the different agencies and bureaucracies, they fell through. This could be a tool to find the next 9/11 and I am all for it.
Having this Seal of Approval would at least give me some assurance that I have bought the Authentic thing. I would feel better thinking my money has gone to the creators of of this entertainment, not to those scumbag pirates.
We should all be grateful that the FBI is helping protect the creative individuals of America.
So where can I actually find a real story that verifies what the submitter is talking about? I would like to actually read about this case.
You put Chris Rock, George Carlin and Richard Pryor to shame.
Meanwhile, a completely offtopic nonsensical Bush hating rant is +4 Interesting.
Good stuff here.
Scientists once said Galileo, Copernicus, and Einstein were wrong too.
But when it comes to the religion of Global Warming, and The Environment, dissenting views are marginalized, and the dissenters demonized.
You really mean that these scientists are biased towards their own scientific truth, and hostile to any others.
Finding a few examples of supposed censorship and distortions means Bush = Evil? .
The fact that this story's other references are all noted liberal newspapers and opponents of the Bush Adminstration shows what a leftist propaganda site Slashdot is.
You slashbots seem to think that Free Speech equals Freedom from Consequence. You're confusing "harassment" from prosecution. Of course authorities would take a second look you're an avowed Al Queda supporter. If you're whining that authorities shouldn't even investigate somebody for just words, you don't live in the real world. Those words could indicate you might be an organizer or fundraiser.
So you can still put forth those idiotic views, you only censor yourself because you would be exposed as a fucking moron, not because the wall would be closing in on you by the secret police.
Anybody here take Economics 101 in here?
Hey, if you want to donate, be my guest. But for those that don't like throwing our money down the drain all in the name of "FREEDOM!!", we'll find better use for it.
Or do you just have your tin-foil hat on too tight today?
What occured here looks like corporate espionage and theft, plain and simple. Whoever leaked this should be caught, and sent to Federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison. I know everyone here loves to hate on M$ (hahah funny), but nobody deserves to have their hard earned work lifted without their permission.
1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.
Calling Bush a liar or claiming he tells a lie requires believing that he knew for certain the statements he made were false, but still went on anyways.
As David Kay said, we were all wrong.
Being wrong doesn't mean being a liar. The loony lefties like yourself still can't get over that.
No, the WMDs do not count as lying. If you can't distinguish honest mistakes from actual lying, then you're hopeless.
Remember this?
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman". That is a lie.
Here's mine, where's yours?
Here's a couple:8 1
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=10561398904
http://www.nusd.k12.az.us/nhs/gthomson.class/artic les/judicial/9circut.htm
Excerpt:
Over the last 20 years, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has developed a reputation for being wrong more often than any other federal appeals court.
By both measures, the 9th Circuit was wrong more often than any other circuit in the dozen years Posner surveyed, though 1997
It's also the most consistently overturned court, so this ruling is definitely not the final word.
Of course foreigners are treated great there; that's their meal ticket. Tourism and prostitution are the only real growth industries in Cuba.
A brilliant medical system which is government funded, the streets are absolutely safe at night,
This sounds exactly like the old "Mussolini made the trains run on time" excuse. This sure must make up for the lack of political and economic freedoms.
Maybe if the Cuban govt. let the population see what the rest of the world is really like they'd be less enthusiastic to leave Cuba.
Or maybe if they did, more people would demand change in Cuba and threaten Castro's 50 year iron-fisted rule.
Wal-Mart is implementing this system to better track their inventory and manage it. What privacy right of yours or mine does it affect?
The tin-foil hat brigade on slashdot hates RFID even when it has nothing to do with them. It's amazing that people to immediately defend p2p's legitimate uses, but not RFID.
You shouldn't spout off about being childish when you don't even have your facts straight.
If you can't figure out why that is so, then you really haven't been paying attention. Airline travel is not a right, and you don't have to fly if you don't like the fact that people are working to make sure some guy isn't trying to hijack passengers or bomb the plane you're on.
I'd really like to see you make a scene at the metal detector and baggage scanner and scream about 'police state!' there and see how far that gets you.
A government agency asked a company to provide passenger data, and they seemingly lied about it. That's about it. The fault is with Northwest for not being more forthcoming about it.
The desperation to insert 'Bush/Rumsfeld/Ashcroft is evil' in every item shows how much the Left is falling further into irrelevancy.
Is the only reason it's posted is because it's about big, evil "megacorps", and gives Michael a reason to injert Clear Channel into this?
Someone explain how this story is relevant to anybody other than Michael and his agenda.
Amazon's has been taking pre-orders too, but the release date listed is 3/01/2004.