The point is that the problem with Geforce cards isn't with the chipset, it's with the mobos makers that didn't put an extra capacitor on the motherboards (or on the graphic card manufacturers who didn't put an extra capacitor on their video card...I blame both for being cheap bastards personally -- I mean, come on...I've heard of being cheap, but still).
The problem with AGP 2x isn't with the chipset, it's with manufactures who decide to save.005 cents on a motherboard by not putting in an extra capacitor.
Nope, I don't have a SBP board; rev 1.8 of the board, stepping 4 of the chipset. My score is also with everything turned on...
What brand of tnt2/ultra do you have? If it's the diammond one, that'd explain the difference. On every bench I've seen with a Diammond board, it's scored on average 10fps lower than it's nearest compeditor. The CLabs board is a bit better, but it's second from the bottom (where tnt2/ultras are concerned) if I remember right.
I'm guessing the sblive is also helping make a bit of a difference. Probably worth a frame or two at most.
If you have a bunch of software loaded to run in the background, that might be reducing your score some as well.
Then you don't know how to set one up right. Somehow I doubt you were using a good power supply -- those 200watters don't cut it when your cpu draws in excess of 50watts.
Mine has been running perfectly since I've gotten it.
The animosity towards the MPAA is because of it's strong armed tactics and their disregard towards the rights of "customers".
They arn't sending out letters to people saying "dude, it's cool and all that you figured out how our stuff works, but would you mind taking it down -- we don't want to lose support for the DVD standard". They are sending letters to people saying "You insolent peon, you dare to determine the magic behind our standard! DIE! DIE! TAKE IT DOWN!" Generally a letter of the latter kind isn't well received.
The MPAA has already stated that they arn't trying to prevent the big "pirates" -- you know, the ones that make real box covers and reproduce the orginal art -- the ones reponsible for the largest percentage of lost revenue. Instead, they are going after the common person.
My counter arguement to the "every pirating dvd's" arguement is the VCR. How many people do you know make bootleg copies of VCR tapes? Maybe 1, if that? Heck, how many people do you know that borrow cd's and burn a copy of it onto another cd? It doesn't happen as often as the MPAA wants you to think.
The MPAA won't have it's domain trampled on. They are acting like a schoolyard bully, shaking people down for lunch money. They don't have much of a case? THEY HAVE NO CASE. They havn't patented the method of CSS encryption on DVD's -- they claim it is a trade secret (at least in another case). The "paper" they are trying to take down is an original work by someone who figured out how it worked. They can NOT claim ownership of that work, as far as I know.
My understanding of law is as follows: If an item has an illegal use, as well as a legal use, it is permitted to distribute said item because it has a legal use. That is why farmers can buy fertilizer. That is why people can buy rifles. That is why you can buy a sports car that has 320 horse power. See my point?
"We have received information that at the above address there have been offers to provide instructions on defeating DVD encryption so that illegal copies of DVDs can be made."
Nevermind the fact that this information can be used to PLAY dvd's too...
"and constitute an infringement of copyright by offering goods or services which are primarily designed to circumvent technological protection measures"
Too bad it isn't trying to circumvent the protection measures than it is trying to show the owner the real data... (ie: the movie)
"We would also request that you advise us of the name and physical address of the person operating this site."
Translated: We want to sue someone. Give us his name or we sue you.
I hereby state that I have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owners, their respective agents, or the law"
Translated: I'm being paid a bunch of money to think whatever my "boss" wants, so I think that anything which has CSS involved in it is bad.
"this law firm is authorized to act on behalf of the owners of an exclusive rights which are being infringed as set out in this notification"
Translated: They can pay us more than you can.
"We thank you for your cooperation in this matter. Your prompt response is requested so that the illegal infringing activity can be stopped."
Translated: Be scared of us, or we'll sick more lawyers on you.
"Please telephone or write to me if you have any questions."
Translated: We want more stupid quotes to send to media outlets; it also makes for a good laugh on Friday afternoon.
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If anyone actually looks at the website in question, you'll find it is a rather well written "paper" describing how CSS works. It can almost be considered an academic paper...what kind of precident would this be setting...
"I hereby state, under penalty of perjury under the laws of New York and under the laws of the United States, that the information in this notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that this law firm is authorized to act on behalf of the owners of an exclusive rights which are being infringed as set out in this notification."
Italics are mine. This is where they swear that they are telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Then they state they are purguring if they are not telling the truth.
Actually, the way the program is layed out it is rather simple to do. I really have to admire the way they designed everything.
The gernade launcher for instance. There is a function called when you click the mouse button to fire a gernade. This in turn calls "fire_grenade" with some parameters.
The fire grenade routine creates a new item and fills out all of the fun fields in the data structure. There you can change the velocity, or the way the item falls, etc. In that structure you can also set a time which will call a "think" function. The "think" function can change the data structure, make new entities, blow up the items, make a 100 new ones going every which way... whatever.:)
The only problem is that I won't have time to REALLY play with it for about 4 months:(...I'm currently in my last semester of college..bleh, I want that sheet of paper already;).
I've never looked at the "sdk"'s for other versions of quake, so trolling through this was a rather interesting experience.
First Discovery: I wish I could code that well.:)
Second Discovery: The BFG and Plasma rifle shots DO travel at the same velocity.
Third Discovery: The rail gun is an "insta-hit" weapon.
Fourth Discovery: Increasing rocket velocity to 20000 (from 900) makes a rocket launcher the equivilent to a rail gun with splash damage.
Fifth Discovery: Bouncing rockets are cool but useless.
Sixth Discovery: Changing the way a rocket handles in midflight confuses the client prediction (unless you fix the client too)
Seventh Discovery: It is far easier to make a random vector and normalize it than it is to try to get a series of vectors to form in a circular fashion.
Eigth Discovery: A gernade that explodes into 10 new gernades looks cool.
Ninth Discovery: Quake doesn't like it when you try to blow up a grenade who's "owner" (ie: the person who launched it) is a gernade who blew up 10 seconds ago.
Tenth Discovery: A gernade that explodes into 100 new gernades is the Quake equivilent of a nuclear bomb.
Eleventh Discovery: It takes 2.3 seconds for 10 grenades spawning 10 grenades spawning 10 grenades etc to make the game go back to the main menu. (yes, we did this on purpose)
Twelth Discovery: It is possible to get a chain of grenades to go on for about 3 minutes...This would be the quake equivilent of nuclear fission.
Thirteenth Discovery: Accuracy awards are given.
Fourteenth Discovery: Replicating gernades make it easy to get accuracy ratings exceeding 1000% (1128% in this case).
No, I didn't mess with much other than the weapons (it's really the only thing you can play with while having no objective in mind, yet being able to see results instantly). Though I did confirm my suspicions that sometimes the bots decide to suicide themselves...:)
....and now it's time for bed (I've run out of Dew).
Actually, AMD has been putting 600 and 650mhz cores into the chips they are selling as 500mhz processors. If you crack open the case you can see what the processor is actually rated for... the late week 500 athlons also shipped with some rather quick SRAM...
Why do I suddenly envision the creation of a "geek sports"? For some reason I'm picturing ESPN covering Xtreem robot wars.... the advertising -- oh the pain!:)
I don't know the full details on how Rambus works, but I believe that what happens is:
A signal is sent down the memory bus. This signal travels through ALL of the chips sitting in RIMM slots. The signal bounces back. The RIMM modules do something to send a signal back.
Now, if my understanding of this is correct (which I am not certain of, caveat emper) only one "pin" on each chip can transmit at a time...
So lesse, we will see the trilogy of prequals complete when?
Okay, we have one done. Give him one year to write the script. 3 years to shoot/edit. Take one year to rake the money in, rinse and repeat.
So we have to wait until 2010?
Is this the same reason he isn't release special edition on DVD? "gotta wait for the prequals"
Yeah right.
He's got something stuck up his butt about the DVD format. Prolly because he wasn't included when it came time to figure out the specifications or something. I'm pretty certain we won't see any Lucas on DVD until VHS is dead (as in, VCRs are out of production for 5 years). I also have a sneaking suspicion that he's working on a THX-ish DVD format, which will (of course) require expensive, specific hardware to show the movie with nominal (if any) quality gain.
Has anyone else ever avoided an accident by accelerating?
I have. For anyone in the St. Louis area, I was driving westboard on Old St. Charles Rd away from Lindberg. For those unfamiliar with it, it's a "small" 4 lane road (the lanes need to be widened) with a shoulder width that varies (from none to a carwidth). It is in serious need of repaving in some places. Very crowded in the day, uncrowded at night; access to two major highways within a few miles. Has a ton of places to eat/shop at along it.
It was nighttime. I was in the rightmost lane doing ~40mph (the speed limit).
I saw a car on the other side of the road waiting to pull out, left turn signal on.
They started to pull out. No big deal, the lane to my left was empty. After a moment I realized that they wern't turning sharp enough to turn into the lane to the left of me; they were going to go into my lane. Where I was. At that moment.
My foot went to the floor, my truck went as far onto the shoulder as it could, and they pulled into my lane WAY too close to my back bumper.
I have so many "near miss" stories because people are too stupid to drive in a safe manner
A story to go with your "too far under the limit": Driving on a wet road doing 60mph (rest of traffic was going the same speed) when someone doing 20 changes into your lane (I'm in the middle lane)... that was not cool... I was able to slow down fast enough, but only after nearly losing control of my truck (the back likes to come around when you lock up the brakes). I think there was about 2ft between me and that car before I the distance between me and them started to increase...
Every morning driving to work over the summer the same places on the highway would be backed up. I'd be willing to bet money that the backups can be traced back to 3 people.
The first person: doesn't accelerate to 50mph before merging, cutting someone off. This causes the whole right lane to hit their brakes and slow down. This lane is now stuck at that speed because people merging are now merging at that speed.
Person 2: This is one of the people in the right after trafic slows. He changes to the middle lane without accelerating to the speed of that lane. That whole lane is now stuck within 5mph of of the right lane.
Person 3: Same thing as person 2. Too impatient, cuts off drivers in the left lane so he can get to work 5 minutes earlier.
Oh well, I'll stop ranting now...
"mainstream" media + ignorant reporters = y2k hype
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(had a better title, but that's all that would fit:)
This whole scenareo is hilarious -- it was a reporters wet dream. To them, y2k meant that computers would cease to function when the date rolled over; computers turned on the next day would delete data. The computer would "think" it was 1900, so banks would not have money for anyone . The engines in airplanes would go in reverse or something equally rediculous because a computer on the plane would fail.
Of course, now I'm hearing news stories about the "y2k bust" -- yeah, as if having a huge disaster was actually a good thing...
Seriously, how many people here believed that there would be any problems? How many people routinely made jokes like "ok, see you after the end of the world"? I mean, come ON. My freeking Windows95 box "rolled over" to the correct date!
In reality, the only crisis 90% of the people in this country will go through is the realization that their 10 year old VCR didn't record their "must see tv".
Yes, Intel is supposed to be releasing "coppermine" processors in a Socket 370 package.
No, you can't stick it in your celeron Socket 370 motherboard. They swapped two pins so it wouldn't work (the reset pin and an unused pin...). I have a feeling someone will put out an adapter though....for an amount that will make the cost of the Slot-1 the same as the 370+adapter...
This word appears every 3 paragraphics in one of my PolySci books....I had never seen or heard of it before, until now...... ARG!!!!! Somehow I doubt that anyone else would be as amused as I am right now though...hehhe;).
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The point is that the problem with Geforce cards isn't with the chipset, it's with the mobos makers that didn't put an extra capacitor on the motherboards (or on the graphic card manufacturers who didn't put an extra capacitor on their video card...I blame both for being cheap bastards personally -- I mean, come on...I've heard of being cheap, but still).
The problem with AGP 2x isn't with the chipset, it's with manufactures who decide to save .005 cents on a motherboard by not putting in an extra capacitor.
Nope, I don't have a SBP board; rev 1.8 of the board, stepping 4 of the chipset. My score is also with everything turned on...
What brand of tnt2/ultra do you have? If it's the diammond one, that'd explain the difference. On every bench I've seen with a Diammond board, it's scored on average 10fps lower than it's nearest compeditor. The CLabs board is a bit better, but it's second from the bottom (where tnt2/ultras are concerned) if I remember right.
I'm guessing the sblive is also helping make a bit of a difference. Probably worth a frame or two at most.
If you have a bunch of software loaded to run in the background, that might be reducing your score some as well.
Then you don't know how to set one up right. Somehow I doubt you were using a good power supply -- those 200watters don't cut it when your cpu draws in excess of 50watts.
Mine has been running perfectly since I've gotten it.
Hell, you ought to get a faster timedemo than that...
:)
Specs:
k7/500
fic sd11
128mb cas2 sdram
xentor tnt2/ultra (standard clock)
sblive
7200rpm ibm 34gxp
EVERYTHING on at the highest settings:
1024x768 16bit: 52.8fps (demo001)
Something is off with your system...I still havn't gotten around to tweaking anything either (because I don't need to!
Too bad the human brain leaks.......didn't you ever see flight of the navigator? :)
Yeah, well ... Right now I have 4 classes, and the resulting work takes up about 16 hours a day. (goodie, 2 hours of fun and 6 hours of sleep).
;).
The two internships I worked over the summer I generally had a bit more than 2 hours to myself in the evenings
The animosity towards the MPAA is because of it's strong armed tactics and their disregard towards the rights of "customers".
They arn't sending out letters to people saying "dude, it's cool and all that you figured out how our stuff works, but would you mind taking it down -- we don't want to lose support for the DVD standard". They are sending letters to people saying "You insolent peon, you dare to determine the magic behind our standard! DIE! DIE! TAKE IT DOWN!" Generally a letter of the latter kind isn't well received.
The MPAA has already stated that they arn't trying to prevent the big "pirates" -- you know, the ones that make real box covers and reproduce the orginal art -- the ones reponsible for the largest percentage of lost revenue. Instead, they are going after the common person.
My counter arguement to the "every pirating dvd's" arguement is the VCR. How many people do you know make bootleg copies of VCR tapes? Maybe 1, if that? Heck, how many people do you know that borrow cd's and burn a copy of it onto another cd? It doesn't happen as often as the MPAA wants you to think.
The MPAA won't have it's domain trampled on. They are acting like a schoolyard bully, shaking people down for lunch money. They don't have much of a case? THEY HAVE NO CASE. They havn't patented the method of CSS encryption on DVD's -- they claim it is a trade secret (at least in another case). The "paper" they are trying to take down is an original work by someone who figured out how it worked. They can NOT claim ownership of that work, as far as I know.
My understanding of law is as follows: If an item has an illegal use, as well as a legal use, it is permitted to distribute said item because it has a legal use. That is why farmers can buy fertilizer. That is why people can buy rifles. That is why you can buy a sports car that has 320 horse power. See my point?
"We have received information that at the above address there have been offers to provide instructions on defeating DVD encryption so that illegal copies of DVDs can be made."
Nevermind the fact that this information can be used to PLAY dvd's too...
"and constitute an infringement of copyright by offering goods or services which are primarily designed to circumvent technological protection measures"
Too bad it isn't trying to circumvent the protection measures than it is trying to show the owner the real data... (ie: the movie)
"We would also request that you advise us of the name and physical address of the person operating this site."
Translated: We want to sue someone. Give us his name or we sue you.
I hereby state that I have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owners, their respective agents, or the law"
Translated: I'm being paid a bunch of money to think whatever my "boss" wants, so I think that anything which has CSS involved in it is bad.
"this law firm is authorized to act on behalf of the owners of an exclusive rights which are being infringed as set out in this notification"
Translated: They can pay us more than you can.
"We thank you for your cooperation in this matter. Your prompt response is requested so that the illegal infringing activity can be stopped."
Translated: Be scared of us, or we'll sick more lawyers on you.
"Please telephone or write to me if you have any questions."
Translated: We want more stupid quotes to send to media outlets; it also makes for a good laugh on Friday afternoon.
-----
If anyone actually looks at the website in question, you'll find it is a rather well written "paper" describing how CSS works. It can almost be considered an academic paper...what kind of precident would this be setting...
"I hereby state, under penalty of perjury under the laws of New York and under the laws of the United States, that the information in this
notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that this law firm is authorized to act on behalf of the owners of an exclusive rights which are being infringed as set out in this notification."
Italics are mine. This is where they swear that they are telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Then they state they are purguring if they are not telling the truth.
*shrug*
Actually, the way the program is layed out it is rather simple to do. I really have to admire the way they designed everything.
:)
:(...I'm currently in my last semester of college..bleh, I want that sheet of paper already ;).
The gernade launcher for instance. There is a function called when you click the mouse button to fire a gernade. This in turn calls "fire_grenade" with some parameters.
The fire grenade routine creates a new item and fills out all of the fun fields in the data structure. There you can change the velocity, or the way the item falls, etc. In that structure you can also set a time which will call a "think" function. The "think" function can change the data structure, make new entities, blow up the items, make a 100 new ones going every which way... whatever.
The only problem is that I won't have time to REALLY play with it for about 4 months
I've never looked at the "sdk"'s for other versions of quake, so trolling through this was a rather interesting experience.
:)
First Discovery: I wish I could code that well.
Second Discovery: The BFG and Plasma rifle shots DO travel at the same velocity.
Third Discovery: The rail gun is an "insta-hit" weapon.
Fourth Discovery: Increasing rocket velocity to 20000 (from 900) makes a rocket launcher the equivilent to a rail gun with splash damage.
Fifth Discovery: Bouncing rockets are cool but useless.
Sixth Discovery: Changing the way a rocket handles in midflight confuses the client prediction (unless you fix the client too)
Seventh Discovery: It is far easier to make a random vector and normalize it than it is to try to get a series of vectors to form in a circular fashion.
Eigth Discovery: A gernade that explodes into 10 new gernades looks cool.
Ninth Discovery: Quake doesn't like it when you try to blow up a grenade who's "owner" (ie: the person who launched it) is a gernade who blew up 10 seconds ago.
Tenth Discovery: A gernade that explodes into 100 new gernades is the Quake equivilent of a nuclear bomb.
Eleventh Discovery: It takes 2.3 seconds for 10 grenades spawning 10 grenades spawning 10 grenades etc to make the game go back to the main menu. (yes, we did this on purpose)
Twelth Discovery: It is possible to get a chain of grenades to go on for about 3 minutes...This would be the quake equivilent of nuclear fission.
Thirteenth Discovery: Accuracy awards are given.
Fourteenth Discovery: Replicating gernades make it easy to get accuracy ratings exceeding 1000% (1128% in this case).
No, I didn't mess with much other than the weapons (it's really the only thing you can play with while having no objective in mind, yet being able to see results instantly). Though I did confirm my suspicions that sometimes the bots decide to suicide themselves...:)
....and now it's time for bed (I've run out of Dew).
With most discs I have found that while I cannot fast forward/rewind, I can skip to either the next title or chapter; problem solved.
Actually, AMD has been putting 600 and 650mhz cores into the chips they are selling as 500mhz processors. If you crack open the case you can see what the processor is actually rated for... the late week 500 athlons also shipped with some rather quick SRAM...
Gee, then I guess the overclocked K6/233 (to 264) I've using for the last two years right now shouldn't be working...
Why do I suddenly envision the creation of a "geek sports"? For some reason I'm picturing ESPN covering Xtreem robot wars.... the advertising -- oh the pain! :)
I don't know the full details on how Rambus works, but I believe that what happens is:
A signal is sent down the memory bus.
This signal travels through ALL of the chips sitting in RIMM slots.
The signal bounces back.
The RIMM modules do something to send a signal back.
Now, if my understanding of this is correct (which I am not certain of, caveat emper) only one "pin" on each chip can transmit at a time...
At least, that's my guess...
So lesse, we will see the trilogy of prequals complete when?
Okay, we have one done.
Give him one year to write the script. 3 years to shoot/edit. Take one year to rake the money in, rinse and repeat.
So we have to wait until 2010?
Is this the same reason he isn't release special edition on DVD? "gotta wait for the prequals"
Yeah right.
He's got something stuck up his butt about the DVD format. Prolly because he wasn't included when it came time to figure out the specifications or something. I'm pretty certain we won't see any Lucas on DVD until VHS is dead (as in, VCRs are out of production for 5 years). I also have a sneaking suspicion that he's working on a THX-ish DVD format, which will (of course) require expensive, specific hardware to show the movie with nominal (if any) quality gain.
My 2 bits.
Has anyone else ever avoided an accident by accelerating?
I have. For anyone in the St. Louis area, I was driving westboard on Old St. Charles Rd away from Lindberg. For those unfamiliar with it, it's a "small" 4 lane road (the lanes need to be widened) with a shoulder width that varies (from none to a carwidth). It is in serious need of repaving in some places. Very crowded in the day, uncrowded at night; access to two major highways within a few miles. Has a ton of places to eat/shop at along it.
It was nighttime. I was in the rightmost lane doing ~40mph (the speed limit).
I saw a car on the other side of the road waiting to pull out, left turn signal on.
They started to pull out. No big deal, the lane to my left was empty. After a moment I realized that they wern't turning sharp enough to turn into the lane to the left of me; they were going to go into my lane. Where I was. At that moment.
My foot went to the floor, my truck went as far onto the shoulder as it could, and they pulled into my lane WAY too close to my back bumper.
Make what you like of it.
I can't agree with your points more.
I have so many "near miss" stories because people are too stupid to drive in a safe manner
A story to go with your "too far under the limit": Driving on a wet road doing 60mph (rest of traffic was going the same speed) when someone doing 20 changes into your lane (I'm in the middle lane)... that was not cool... I was able to slow down fast enough, but only after nearly losing control of my truck (the back likes to come around when you lock up the brakes). I think there was about 2ft between me and that car before I the distance between me and them started to increase...
Every morning driving to work over the summer the same places on the highway would be backed up. I'd be willing to bet money that the backups can be traced back to 3 people.
The first person: doesn't accelerate to 50mph before merging, cutting someone off. This causes the whole right lane to hit their brakes and slow down. This lane is now stuck at that speed because people merging are now merging at that speed.
Person 2: This is one of the people in the right after trafic slows. He changes to the middle lane without accelerating to the speed of that lane. That whole lane is now stuck within 5mph of of the right lane.
Person 3: Same thing as person 2. Too impatient, cuts off drivers in the left lane so he can get to work 5 minutes earlier.
Oh well, I'll stop ranting now...
(had a better title, but that's all that would fit :)
This whole scenareo is hilarious -- it was a reporters wet dream. To them, y2k meant that computers would cease to function when the date rolled over; computers turned on the next day would delete data. The computer would "think" it was 1900, so banks would not have money for anyone . The engines in airplanes would go in reverse or something equally rediculous because a computer on the plane would fail.
Of course, now I'm hearing news stories about the "y2k bust" -- yeah, as if having a huge disaster was actually a good thing...
Seriously, how many people here believed that there would be any problems? How many people routinely made jokes like "ok, see you after the end of the world"? I mean, come ON. My freeking Windows95 box "rolled over" to the correct date!
In reality, the only crisis 90% of the people in this country will go through is the realization that their 10 year old VCR didn't record their "must see tv".
Yes and no.
Yes, Intel is supposed to be releasing "coppermine" processors in a Socket 370 package.
No, you can't stick it in your celeron Socket 370 motherboard. They swapped two pins so it wouldn't work (the reset pin and an unused pin...). I have a feeling someone will put out an adapter though....for an amount that will make the cost of the Slot-1 the same as the 370+adapter...
Hrm, juding the fact that it was moderated down to "offtopic", I'm gonna guess that someone wasn't amused...
Promogulate: to publish or make known
;).
This word appears every 3 paragraphics in one of my PolySci books....I had never seen or heard of it before, until now...... ARG!!!!! Somehow I doubt that anyone else would be as amused as I am right now though...hehhe
...saying that "Antitrust laws suck -- here's a donation of $50billion -- get rid of them"
hehe