Is this just a novice mistake, English-as-not-mother-tongue or just general incompetence?
Or maybe it's an intentional error designed to solicit comments like this, as you speculate. Too many people shrieking for attention these days, so they gotta try new ways of scamming you into clicking. It's sad, really.
Seriously, the Paris deal is worse than the Kyoto deal. the fact that China, India, South Africa, South Korea, Japan, Russia, etc CONTINUES TO GROW THEIR EMISSIONS, says that it is wrong. Heck, Germany continues building NEW COAL PLANTS. INSANE.
3rd world nations, along with CHina (which is actually a 2world nation now) emit far more than they admit AND continue growing more than what even the west can drop, is a joke.
Hopefully, instead, the GOP will push for a tax on ALL CONSUMED GOODS/Services based on what state/nations the worst CO2 comes from.
All that needs to happen is that we need OCO3 to have precise measurements between states/nations, along with normalizing based on emissions / $ GDP.
With this, America raises the tax on the emissions/$GDP. This will force all nations to drop their emission over time, or lose their export market. In addition, it will benefit those nations that have low emission / $ GDP.
For some reason, these facts are never explored at any depth or discussed in the mainstream media. Very curious.
And what's the projected non-increase in temperature by 2100 ASSUMING everyone follows the rules and energy generation technology stays at a standstill? Is it 0.04 degrees C or something?
Ahhh yes, the ever-nebulous 'externalities' that can never be quite proven, but do come in handy politically (just like CAGW itself) to yank the emotions. Won't somebody please think of the children?
"No one is complaining about post-op transsexuals here. It's not about " transgender". It's about a penis in the vagina room."
But of course, Ratzo pretends to not understand this. To him, it's more important to rant about others' "intolerance" and "bigotry" and insult and call them names. That Ratzo, he's so virtuous and compassionate.
"If you use it in a non-airtight greenhouse I'm sure it will help the plants, but it will also leak out into the atmosphere and contribute to climate change."
Do you understand the truly small concentrations of CO2 we're talking about here (as used in greenhouses)?
I swear... due to the relentless hysterical propaganda about climate change some people's brains have fallen out. Or it's all politics; a molecule used as a stick to beat your opponents with.
But hey, I used to work for a company that recovered, processed, stored and sold carbon dioxide - so I'm obviously biased, not to be trusted and quite probably evil.
It's almost as if they're trying to discredit themselves - makes no sense. Even worse that "Scientific" American published it. Standards have really dropped over there or the Iron Law of Bureaucracy has gotten waaay out of control.
Yeah, well, most of this nonsense is simply identity politics disguised as science. And much of what is touted as "science" these days is also just authoritarian politics under the guise of "It's SCIENCE, so you are not permitted to object (or even speak)!".
"The EPA ran the numbers on the Paris agreement and found that even if climate sensitivity was as strong as CAGW’s hypothetical assumptions, and if the US adhered to the conditions of the 'agreement', it would only reduce global warming by around 0.01C by 2030."
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Jean Cretien, former Prime Minister of Canada, would like to have a word with you...
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." - Jean Chretien
Yeah, they didn't mention what his reaction was.
Is this just a novice mistake, English-as-not-mother-tongue or just general incompetence?
Or maybe it's an intentional error designed to solicit comments like this, as you speculate. Too many people shrieking for attention these days, so they gotta try new ways of scamming you into clicking. It's sad, really.
"I really like coming in to the office. I like the social aspect "
Turn in your nerd card.
"All the distractions and annoying people "
OK, you can have it back.
This part:
Seriously, the Paris deal is worse than the Kyoto deal. the fact that China, India, South Africa, South Korea, Japan, Russia, etc CONTINUES TO GROW THEIR EMISSIONS, says that it is wrong. Heck, Germany continues building NEW COAL PLANTS. INSANE.
3rd world nations, along with CHina (which is actually a 2world nation now) emit far more than they admit AND continue growing more than what even the west can drop, is a joke.
Hopefully, instead, the GOP will push for a tax on ALL CONSUMED GOODS/Services based on what state/nations the worst CO2 comes from. All that needs to happen is that we need OCO3 to have precise measurements between states/nations, along with normalizing based on emissions / $ GDP.
With this, America raises the tax on the emissions/$GDP. This will force all nations to drop their emission over time, or lose their export market. In addition, it will benefit those nations that have low emission / $ GDP.
0.04%
Opportunity cost!
For some reason, these facts are never explored at any depth or discussed in the mainstream media. Very curious.
And what's the projected non-increase in temperature by 2100 ASSUMING everyone follows the rules and energy generation technology stays at a standstill? Is it 0.04 degrees C or something?
This is madness, pure inexplicable madness.
China doesn't actually have to DO anything (except build more coal plants) until 2030 or so. Why wouldn't they remain?
Ahhh yes, the ever-nebulous 'externalities' that can never be quite proven, but do come in handy politically (just like CAGW itself) to yank the emotions. Won't somebody please think of the children?
"No one is complaining about post-op transsexuals here. It's not about " transgender". It's about a penis in the vagina room."
But of course, Ratzo pretends to not understand this. To him, it's more important to rant about others' "intolerance" and "bigotry" and insult and call them names. That Ratzo, he's so virtuous and compassionate.
What concentration of CO2 do you think balaband was talking about? S/he specifically mentioned 0.07% - you're concerned about that percentage?
The "CO2 generated by this system" is CO2 that would have been generated elsewhere for existing applications anyway, is it not?
I have a feeling you believe there's some perfect CO2 concentration that must be maintained and that we're already doomed at the current 0.04%.
Yeah, yeah... keep pretending you're oh-so concerned about CO2. As a political tool it works for you. For now.
"If you use it in a non-airtight greenhouse I'm sure it will help the plants, but it will also leak out into the atmosphere and contribute to climate change."
Do you understand the truly small concentrations of CO2 we're talking about here (as used in greenhouses)?
I swear... due to the relentless hysterical propaganda about climate change some people's brains have fallen out. Or it's all politics; a molecule used as a stick to beat your opponents with.
But hey, I used to work for a company that recovered, processed, stored and sold carbon dioxide - so I'm obviously biased, not to be trusted and quite probably evil.
Nah - they'll keep milking Climate Change Catastrofarianism for taxpayer funds. It's What they Do.
And everybody wants to save the planet but no one wants to help mom with the dishes.
"...shift the subsidies to cleaner energy..."
What do you think is happening now vis-a-vis subsidies? Or are you referring to nebulous uncalculated "externalities" in the fossil fuel industries?
"...only way to save the fucking planet..."
Oh, the drama.
"Conservatives seem to rule corporate higher management"
Does this apply in the tech industries, though?
"...while the more educated ones..."
Given the state of education in the US, is this necessarily a good thing? Is much non-real-science education now just a status signifier?
You're hilarious, have you considered comedy writing?
It's almost as if they're trying to discredit themselves - makes no sense. Even worse that "Scientific" American published it. Standards have really dropped over there or the Iron Law of Bureaucracy has gotten waaay out of control.
Bingo!
Yeah, well, most of this nonsense is simply identity politics disguised as science. And much of what is touted as "science" these days is also just authoritarian politics under the guise of "It's SCIENCE, so you are not permitted to object (or even speak)!".
This is what "science" has devolved into. When does the madness end?
We seem to be seeing Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy everywhere these days.
Although I do agree with the headline, just not in the way that Sci-Am intended.
All this is being done because...
"The EPA ran the numbers on the Paris agreement and found that even if climate sensitivity was as strong as CAGW’s hypothetical assumptions, and if the US adhered to the conditions of the 'agreement', it would only reduce global warming by around 0.01C by 2030."
"So what is going to cover base load"
They'll worry about that after the self-congratulatory party.
Cost is no object when you're SavingThePlanet(TM).
There are no environmental benefits to that pollutant, CO2.
Don't ever do a cost/benefit analysis of "renewables"!