I've used Novell products since '91 and can say from experience: 1. Novell's products have always been top notch 2. Novell's support community is great and you won't hear, "Hey, N00B, RTFM" 3. Novell seems to respect their customers and does not force feed them crappy products with forced upgrades every two years 4. Novell has inspired great loyalty among those of us who have used their products over the years. In order to foster this loyalty, a company must produce technically superior products and have a great support ecosystem
Simple.
NetWare is a kernel
Linux is a kernel
Novell's plan is to put all of the services such as eDirectory, iFolder, iPrint, portal services, etc onto either kernel. I think this is a great concept because it gives choices to customers.
If you think MRE's are bad, I had a worse experience. I was in the 101st Airborne in the first Gulf War. When we went into Iraq, there was a supply snafu with our A-rations and we ended up eating chicken cacciatore 3 meals a day for two weeks. Made me want to find a Bedouin and steal a goat.
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Hold on.
Proliant 800?!?
That was like 5 years ago
Think about it: Novell is a company who used to be REALLY BIG then got spanked by the Great Beast in Redmond because of their marketing-department-that-couldn't. They had the best enterprise products, but nobody wanted to write apps on the NetWare platform. They've been in steady decline since '96.
NetWare is dying and Novell needs a new platform. Linux is perfect because people are writing applications for it. So, in Novell's thinking, if they can deploy the NetWare services like file/print/Directory/Web Svcs on a Linux kernel, they have the best of both worlds.
The one thing that they have to be conscious of, and I believe they have, is their perception in the OSS community. Novell knows that they need community approval in order to be successful. If the community dislikes what they're doing, people won't buy their products and they will become irrelevant.
So, I re-iterate that Novell has to be one of the "good guys" or they will just end up screwing themselves.
Novell is one of the good guys.
They are moving all of their services to Linux; there is no way that they would jeopardize the goodwill of the community for a few bucks.
Real Life Experience With High Tech Army Systems, circa 1987:
me: Uh. I need a job
recruiter: We've got plenty, but you look like a hoo-aah infantry kind of guy. What is it that you like to do?
me: Uh. computers?!? I have a TRS80 at home
recruiter: Hhhmmmm computers huh?
recruiter: AHA! Here's the best job that the Army has.... 13E Cannon Fire Direction Specialist. It says here that it uses high tech computers to create a firing solution for the cannons. This will give you a good start in the computer industry once you leave the Army.
me: Uh. OK
recruiter: Great! sign here, here, here, here, no, don't read that part, then sign here, here, here, and here. That part at the bottom is just the standard disclaimer; you don't need to worry about that. You ship out tomorrow. Enjoy your high tech Army life
me: Uh. OK
After 8 weeks of basic infantry training, I arrive at my high tech training:
instructor: OK you maggots, it's time for your high tech field artillery training. Each of you gets one of these.
me: Uh. This looks like a slide-rule.
instructor: It is, you moron. What did you expect?
me: Uh. computers?!?
instructor: These computers are manual. Now drop and give me 20 for being so stupid!
eDirectory (NDS) is THE directory.
Unfortunately, it doesn't run on Debian yet. You have to admit, though, that a Directory that runs equally well on RedHat, Suse, Windows, NetWare and Solaris is pretty killer.
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I've used Novell products since '91 and can say from experience:
1. Novell's products have always been top notch
2. Novell's support community is great and you won't hear, "Hey, N00B, RTFM"
3. Novell seems to respect their customers and does not force feed them crappy products with forced upgrades every two years
4. Novell has inspired great loyalty among those of us who have used their products over the years. In order to foster this loyalty, a company must produce technically superior products and have a great support ecosystem
Well, OK. Maybe not. How about: YaST SSH PHP MyAdmin ps top or from FreeBSD, /stand/sysinstall
"So, your Schwartz is as big as mine.."
I don't want to be a jerk or anything, but I think you mean to refer to Geoworks Ensemble
Now tell me why I'm interested in anything that MS offers
Personally, I'm waiting to see if they bring some of the file system features over.... salvage, purge, granular ACL's, inheritance, etc
Simple. NetWare is a kernel Linux is a kernel Novell's plan is to put all of the services such as eDirectory, iFolder, iPrint, portal services, etc onto either kernel. I think this is a great concept because it gives choices to customers.
naive people too
Considering that this guy screwed up his iPod in creating these procedures, why on earth would anybody want to follow suit?
11B:
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Earth Pig
Ground Hog
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Bullet Stopper
Of course, I can't say too much since I was a Cannon Cocker
But remember.... artillerymen have bigger guns and do it with a bigger bang
If you think MRE's are bad, I had a worse experience. I was in the 101st Airborne in the first Gulf War. When we went into Iraq, there was a supply snafu with our A-rations and we ended up eating chicken cacciatore 3 meals a day for two weeks. Made me want to find a Bedouin and steal a goat.
Hold on. Proliant 800?!? That was like 5 years ago
This is just a fancy way of saying "Microsoft is trying to figure out how to turn off Hotmail"
Think about it:
Novell is a company who used to be REALLY BIG then got spanked by the Great Beast in Redmond because of their marketing-department-that-couldn't. They had the best enterprise products, but nobody wanted to write apps on the NetWare platform. They've been in steady decline since '96.
NetWare is dying and Novell needs a new platform. Linux is perfect because people are writing applications for it. So, in Novell's thinking, if they can deploy the NetWare services like file/print/Directory/Web Svcs on a Linux kernel, they have the best of both worlds.
The one thing that they have to be conscious of, and I believe they have, is their perception in the OSS community. Novell knows that they need community approval in order to be successful. If the community dislikes what they're doing, people won't buy their products and they will become irrelevant.
So, I re-iterate that Novell has to be one of the "good guys" or they will just end up screwing themselves.
Novell is one of the good guys. They are moving all of their services to Linux; there is no way that they would jeopardize the goodwill of the community for a few bucks.
What are your thoughts on the Novell purchase of SuSE and the threat that they will pose to your enterprise business?
Real Life Experience With High Tech Army Systems, circa 1987: me: Uh. I need a job recruiter: We've got plenty, but you look like a hoo-aah infantry kind of guy. What is it that you like to do? me: Uh. computers?!? I have a TRS80 at home recruiter: Hhhmmmm computers huh? recruiter: AHA! Here's the best job that the Army has.... 13E Cannon Fire Direction Specialist. It says here that it uses high tech computers to create a firing solution for the cannons. This will give you a good start in the computer industry once you leave the Army. me: Uh. OK recruiter: Great! sign here, here, here, here, no, don't read that part, then sign here, here, here, and here. That part at the bottom is just the standard disclaimer; you don't need to worry about that. You ship out tomorrow. Enjoy your high tech Army life me: Uh. OK After 8 weeks of basic infantry training, I arrive at my high tech training: instructor: OK you maggots, it's time for your high tech field artillery training. Each of you gets one of these. me: Uh. This looks like a slide-rule. instructor: It is, you moron. What did you expect? me: Uh. computers?!? instructor: These computers are manual. Now drop and give me 20 for being so stupid!
eDirectory (NDS) is THE directory. Unfortunately, it doesn't run on Debian yet. You have to admit, though, that a Directory that runs equally well on RedHat, Suse, Windows, NetWare and Solaris is pretty killer.