Get this, not only does the Australian federal government not have a law against murder, but it would be unconstitutional for Australia to pass a law against murder, even murder across state borders using long range artillery unless it first signed an multilateral anti-murder treaty with at least one other national government. Turns out that the Australian constitution fails to prohibit dismemberment of puppies or using Melbourne as a nuclear weapons testing site. Wow, what a crazy place.
Wow, it's great that you exposed him for the liberal he is. That is obviously not classical liberalism because it seems that he wants to justify higher levels of taxation, but perhaps it is social liberalism and he craves greater government revenues to support gay marriage or whatever it is that liberals like these days. Oh well, he's bound to be a liberal because you don't agree with liberals and he said something you don't agree with.
When did it become fashionable to display such a stunted view of politics by saying that "liberals/conservatives say X". As a self-confessed social and economic conservative I have to say that my own views are certainly not the same as most other "conservatives" and would much rather be in the company of a socialist or libertarian that can justify their position than someone who agrees with my own views for the wrong reasons.
Well, in one sense, I do suspect that people are treating him as saying something he did not. It sounds like he was talking about a hypothetical, government funded organization that researches and reports truthfulness of other reports by giving evidence and citations. He's not saying to use a government department to block anything regarded as "false". Does not seems much different than a highly constrained version of the BBC, CBC, ABC (Australian) and other government channels you don't have to pay attention to if you don't want to.
I've been playing PS3 games this whole time, just not online. The same applies to my XBox since I refuse to buy Gold membership, but I will start playing on PSN again once it comes back.
I'm not going to apologize for Sony and say that they are not incompetent in online security, but this will not quell my interest in PS3 any more than Sony's other numerous blunders, because I still believe that PS3 is a great piece of consumer electronics. As a software guy, I have always known Sony are a bunch of guys who just do not understand software, take PS3's awful operating system into account, it just refuses to multitask between some combos of apps, like opening a webbrowser or playing music while you are browsing the store, it obviously has not implemented its file system correctly since you cannot copy directly from the network to a memory card or a thumb drive. I implemented a better operating system than these guys for my honours thesis and that was rubbish. But, a PS3 is just such a good piece of hardware, it supports so many different types of media and device, you can just plug a keyboard or mouse up to it, or use bluetooth and it will work as it should, stick in a blueray, dvd or cd and it will play it or fill that same disk with movie and sound files and it will play that too. HDMI port as well as digital audio and standard analogue at the back all works great with standard cable, SD, MS and CF at the front (now removed sadly but great if you have a first gen model). It's quiet, reliable and looks good. Also, it handles games pretty well too, kind of gets the rough end on ports because it does not make sense to develop a multi-platform game around the PS3's little quirks.
It comes down to it, PSN is kind of awful compared to XBox Live Gold, but it is free. Once again, Sony are bumbling idiots when it comes to software, but I've known that for years, no company that cared about software would even consider using the Cell processor since it is torture for programmers. But if I am buying new hardware, Sony obviously (in my mind) makes the very best and I will buy it. I just wish they outsourced their software to Europe or North America since Japanese have always had difficulty with large software projects.
So it's been around 14 years, so basically before Assange it has only awarded one prize to someone who did not already have a nobel peace prize at the time of the award. Having grown up in Sydney I have got to say I am pretty uninterested in this me-too institution. Since I doubt many Australians will do anything worthy of the attention of the Norweigian government or whoever awards these things, maybe starting with Assange they can make it a sort of domestic competition with lesser criteria.
If you want to go off and do your own thing, fine. Have at it.
But don't expect to write code that keeps a 777 safely in the air. That is the type of scenario that we need discipline, not creativity.
You need creativity to write something accurate, elegant and easily reviewed, tested and verified. You need discipline to actually do the review, testing and verification steps. Both are equally important if you want something solid and delivered on time.
Former admins 'shitstorm', 'Nerdo', 'owen', 'blergh' and 'Power2All'
Sounds like anonymous was infiltrated by 5 guys with user names and some anonymous guy has sent these freebooters packing.
The big problem with Anonymous as a movement is that your standard wannabe revolutionary thinks it's cool and all, but also fancies himself becoming a notorious and powerful freedom fighter which kind of conflicts with the whole "nobody knowing who you are" ethos. No matter how rooted a movement is to being without leadership, membership and overarching strategic command, there will always be no shortage of guys who will offer themselves as a representative for the movement.
The powerful image of anonymous is a magnet to silly little boys who dream of gold oak leaves, lanyards and epaulets. The fantasy is that on the day of victory there will be hundreds of people in Guy Fawkes masks and identical suits, but the one in the center, leading them all will have a simple gold pin on his tie denoting his power and authority, how many boys must daydream of being him every day.
So many people have forgotten about the lulz and about doing random acts of anonymous jackassary like taking down anonops and PSN and generally pissing as many people off as you can because nobody can keep you accountable. Honestly, I am upset about not having PSN, because I like PSN, but at least the guy who did it gets what being an online anonymous troll is all about.
Best RTS of a five year period when RTSs came out every 2 days. It had everything a game should have, action, explosions, variety, fun and best of all: it was too hopelessly unbalanced and chaotic to turn into a Korean e-sport. Graphics were well ahead of its time too meaning it looks far from pathetic 13 years on.
At the time, I never got the appeal of Starcraft which came out a year later but was decidedly 2d and far less dynamic and varied, I would love that I could just decide to build a bunch of a different combination unit types each match and just see how it goes, with 230 units that kept me replaying it for a good few years. Generally having dogfights whizzing over kilometers of airspace, massive guns pounding thump thump thump, planes constantly circling and landing to repair, huge warships looming, ready to unleash hell and debris flying everywhere was enough to numb the boredom so often associated with this genre.
Also, that opening monologue is much more dramatic than "It's a zergling, Lester. Smaller type of zerg."
In the Age of Enlightenment, this involved funding the highly intelligent to go make use of that intelligence.
Provided they were born to the aristocracy or at least the landowning class, otherwise they are to stay in the fields with their turnips. Even the son of a craftsman could not expect a chance to become literate and would be destined to be treated as a simpleton for his life, let alone a daughter of such family.
Yep, given it took the US military, what, 13 years to nail Bin Laden since he started blowing stuff up, I am sure your game of decapitation will be as fast and satisfying as getting a high score of whack-a-mole.
All that said, let me be the millionth person today to say "fuck that arsehole", congratulations to the lucky bastard that got to kill him.
Likewise, books are language. Can books be copyrighted? No one owns language.
Books most certainly can't be patented, not sure why you are bringing copyright up. I think _most_ of slashdot agrees with copyright (apart from the commenters on P2P file sharing stories), kind of bashing a straw man here.
I think someone pursuing missionary work probably has too much of a conscience to get rich on a "ministry business". Like saying that since the mob bosses who control sanitation in some Italian cities are rich, garbage disposal is a good career path.
I think it is pretty good. Fast, comfortable, much cheaper and more convenient than a plane ticket. The stewardesses are generally prettier and more friendly than the ones who work for Air China also. There are a lot of highspeed trains zipping all over the place and it is not exactly turning into a bloodbath.
Yeah, but 1/128 is exactly 0x3C000000 in IEEE-754 floating point, that's pretty easy to write and remember. 1/100 is approximately 0x3C23D70A which is simply an arbitrary mess that is off by about 2*10^-9. If I was dumb enough to write a financial system with floating point arithmetic, then using increments of 1/128 would be a great workaround that might just save my sorry job.
To my knowledge, Australian state government elections was where the secret ballot was first implemented.
And therein lies the problem, if you let a bunch of idiots pick something with absolutely no oversight or scrutiny you cannot be too upset if they pick the wrong thing. Try to increase taxes, the people will rise up. Get caught taking bribes, the people will rise up. Make it impossible to get the latest games, the people will generally not even know what they are missing.
I play computer games to escape the burdens of an unclear and often troubling life, not to celebrate them. Here's a suggestion, we keep doing what's we've been doing for the last 30 years because ripping through hundreds of "bad guys" based merely on the pretext that they are somehow not worth sparing is really, really fun.
I think the key with things like Uncharted's dissonant violence and dialogue is that as developers continue to make huge progress in finding new scenarios for exploring extreme violence and better digital simulation of extreme violence, they must be careful to also find better rationalization of extreme violence lest a discord arises in the player's mind. A concrete example of something to avoid is God of War's issue where you are ripping torsos off your foe with your bare hands and you do not feel awesome about it because you cannot shake that feeling that Kratos should not be doing that torso ripping in the first place. The game honestly does a pretty bad job at explaining to the player that the torso really does need to be gruesomely torn from the head and limbs and it's pretty jarring at times. Hopefully developers can learn from this article and players can feel more comfortable in future games.
Well, I can say that in China, everyone's pretty scared about fallout drifting westwards right now and have even stopped eating saltwater fish for fear of them being radioactive. People have been hoarding salt, most believing that there will be no clean salt left in the sea rather than anything to do with iodine. The Chinese government is extremely unlikely to step up nuclear energy policy while everyone's currently freaking out about Fukushima, they are not going to spend billions of yuan on some project that will just piss everyone off, that money would be spent on popular projects like maybe another huge hydro dam or an enormous bridge/tunnel to Hainan or something. You don't stay in power for 60 years by being politically naive. They're going ahead with current plans, because the money is mostly spent and the power is needed, but this is just pragmatism, not drive.
I think the Royal Navy of all military branches has the least excuse, since naval warfare has been a completely technical endeavor for the last 400 years. These are people who's lives are spent operating giant multi-billion dollar nuclear armed fighting platforms. These are people who's job it is to make sure they know every bolt in the ship and have a command structure in place so that nobody can screw up and sink the ship. Somehow not only did one person not actually remove the information, but the command structure that is meant to prevent such screwups failed to prevent the information from leaking.
Also, your expectations of computers are too high, what do you expect "Hi, it looks like you are redacting a classified naval document, would you like help?", it is the computer's job to obey when someone asks for black rectangles, it is a human's job to protect strategic objectives.
Obviously, he is a nerd who just wants a submissive Asian woman to serve him.
Try dating a Chinese or better yet Singaporean woman sometime and find out how submissive she is, "men rule the world, women rule men" is a maxim I have heard from Chinese.
Also, I have not met a Chinese programmer with a girlfriend/wife that scores under the 70th percentile. Chinese society is extremely shallow, meaning the guys with stable, well paid, white collar jobs can get pretty girls and that is what happens 90% of the time. Zuckerburg is a billionaire with a very plain woman, which probably means he loves her for something deeper.
Methinks you did not read that article so well. The twin paradox is not a paradox precisely because it is the swapping of inertial frames which is causing the apparent time dilation to begin with.
First programmable electronic computer (Colossus I) was British, first mechanical computer (difference engine) was British. Talking about WWII (which the post referred to), British computers were the only thing usefully employed in the war effort in a way that affected the outcome since Harvard Mark I was the United States' only computer like device during the war but was decimal and non branching, unlike the programmable, binary Colossus and Colossus II. Also the slash cryptography thing made Britain the only possible meaning since pre-war American cryptography was far behind any state in Europe, even the small ones due to slightly naive foreign policy. Also, I may point out that by the time the US had built a computer with program stored in RAM, or a binary based programmable computer, the UK had several and even Australia had one. The United States took a lead in many aspects of computing during the 80s and 90s, but of Britain's ARM is far more commonly used than America's x86 or Power architectures. America had a huge role in commercialising computers, but it was not very involved in inventing them.
I am not British by the way, but I believe in giving credit where it is due.
American tech was great (A-bomb, radar, penicillin, cryptography/computers)
A-bomb (American), radar (British), penicillin (British/Australian), cryptography/computers (British). Well, one out of four isn't bad...
You do know that the world's first working Aeroplane and Telephone were manufactured in America right? You could have actually mentioned some ACTUAL American tech.
Science is demonstrable, repeatable and self-correcting... for people who understand it. Maybe you understand it so well that you cannot emphasize with those who don't, or maybe you are just sprouting the scientific method that our science has been tested by as irrefutable dogma because you don't understand. It matters not, to most people a faith healer or a medium is just as much of a demonstration as any formula or experiment. Your second point is right on though, Science Delivers, penicillin kills bacteria, nuclear reactors generate heat, semiconductors calculate logic, satellites orbit and planes fly, all doing so in an obvious, undeniable manner that requires no pre-conceived beliefs to observe. Chinese hospitals love to give up herbal remedies, but they hand out a big pack of Azithromycin as well, in case it is serious and needs to be cured. Joe Sixpack might not trust science, but he knows that the engineers who built his car and the doctor who cured his heart murmur all trust science.
Get this, not only does the Australian federal government not have a law against murder, but it would be unconstitutional for Australia to pass a law against murder, even murder across state borders using long range artillery unless it first signed an multilateral anti-murder treaty with at least one other national government. Turns out that the Australian constitution fails to prohibit dismemberment of puppies or using Melbourne as a nuclear weapons testing site. Wow, what a crazy place.
Wow, it's great that you exposed him for the liberal he is. That is obviously not classical liberalism because it seems that he wants to justify higher levels of taxation, but perhaps it is social liberalism and he craves greater government revenues to support gay marriage or whatever it is that liberals like these days. Oh well, he's bound to be a liberal because you don't agree with liberals and he said something you don't agree with.
When did it become fashionable to display such a stunted view of politics by saying that "liberals/conservatives say X". As a self-confessed social and economic conservative I have to say that my own views are certainly not the same as most other "conservatives" and would much rather be in the company of a socialist or libertarian that can justify their position than someone who agrees with my own views for the wrong reasons.
Well, in one sense, I do suspect that people are treating him as saying something he did not. It sounds like he was talking about a hypothetical, government funded organization that researches and reports truthfulness of other reports by giving evidence and citations. He's not saying to use a government department to block anything regarded as "false". Does not seems much different than a highly constrained version of the BBC, CBC, ABC (Australian) and other government channels you don't have to pay attention to if you don't want to.
Well, I'm not giving them my credit card again, I'm not that dumb... but most of PSN is free, so it shouldn't be much of an issue.
I've been playing PS3 games this whole time, just not online. The same applies to my XBox since I refuse to buy Gold membership, but I will start playing on PSN again once it comes back.
I'm not going to apologize for Sony and say that they are not incompetent in online security, but this will not quell my interest in PS3 any more than Sony's other numerous blunders, because I still believe that PS3 is a great piece of consumer electronics. As a software guy, I have always known Sony are a bunch of guys who just do not understand software, take PS3's awful operating system into account, it just refuses to multitask between some combos of apps, like opening a webbrowser or playing music while you are browsing the store, it obviously has not implemented its file system correctly since you cannot copy directly from the network to a memory card or a thumb drive. I implemented a better operating system than these guys for my honours thesis and that was rubbish. But, a PS3 is just such a good piece of hardware, it supports so many different types of media and device, you can just plug a keyboard or mouse up to it, or use bluetooth and it will work as it should, stick in a blueray, dvd or cd and it will play it or fill that same disk with movie and sound files and it will play that too. HDMI port as well as digital audio and standard analogue at the back all works great with standard cable, SD, MS and CF at the front (now removed sadly but great if you have a first gen model). It's quiet, reliable and looks good. Also, it handles games pretty well too, kind of gets the rough end on ports because it does not make sense to develop a multi-platform game around the PS3's little quirks.
It comes down to it, PSN is kind of awful compared to XBox Live Gold, but it is free. Once again, Sony are bumbling idiots when it comes to software, but I've known that for years, no company that cared about software would even consider using the Cell processor since it is torture for programmers. But if I am buying new hardware, Sony obviously (in my mind) makes the very best and I will buy it. I just wish they outsourced their software to Europe or North America since Japanese have always had difficulty with large software projects.
So it's been around 14 years, so basically before Assange it has only awarded one prize to someone who did not already have a nobel peace prize at the time of the award. Having grown up in Sydney I have got to say I am pretty uninterested in this me-too institution. Since I doubt many Australians will do anything worthy of the attention of the Norweigian government or whoever awards these things, maybe starting with Assange they can make it a sort of domestic competition with lesser criteria.
If you want to go off and do your own thing, fine. Have at it.
But don't expect to write code that keeps a 777 safely in the air. That is the type of scenario that we need discipline, not creativity.
You need creativity to write something accurate, elegant and easily reviewed, tested and verified. You need discipline to actually do the review, testing and verification steps. Both are equally important if you want something solid and delivered on time.
Former admins 'shitstorm', 'Nerdo', 'owen', 'blergh' and 'Power2All'
Sounds like anonymous was infiltrated by 5 guys with user names and some anonymous guy has sent these freebooters packing.
The big problem with Anonymous as a movement is that your standard wannabe revolutionary thinks it's cool and all, but also fancies himself becoming a notorious and powerful freedom fighter which kind of conflicts with the whole "nobody knowing who you are" ethos. No matter how rooted a movement is to being without leadership, membership and overarching strategic command, there will always be no shortage of guys who will offer themselves as a representative for the movement.
The powerful image of anonymous is a magnet to silly little boys who dream of gold oak leaves, lanyards and epaulets. The fantasy is that on the day of victory there will be hundreds of people in Guy Fawkes masks and identical suits, but the one in the center, leading them all will have a simple gold pin on his tie denoting his power and authority, how many boys must daydream of being him every day.
So many people have forgotten about the lulz and about doing random acts of anonymous jackassary like taking down anonops and PSN and generally pissing as many people off as you can because nobody can keep you accountable. Honestly, I am upset about not having PSN, because I like PSN, but at least the guy who did it gets what being an online anonymous troll is all about.
Best RTS of a five year period when RTSs came out every 2 days. It had everything a game should have, action, explosions, variety, fun and best of all: it was too hopelessly unbalanced and chaotic to turn into a Korean e-sport. Graphics were well ahead of its time too meaning it looks far from pathetic 13 years on.
At the time, I never got the appeal of Starcraft which came out a year later but was decidedly 2d and far less dynamic and varied, I would love that I could just decide to build a bunch of a different combination unit types each match and just see how it goes, with 230 units that kept me replaying it for a good few years. Generally having dogfights whizzing over kilometers of airspace, massive guns pounding thump thump thump, planes constantly circling and landing to repair, huge warships looming, ready to unleash hell and debris flying everywhere was enough to numb the boredom so often associated with this genre.
Also, that opening monologue is much more dramatic than "It's a zergling, Lester. Smaller type of zerg."
In the Age of Enlightenment, this involved funding the highly intelligent to go make use of that intelligence.
Provided they were born to the aristocracy or at least the landowning class, otherwise they are to stay in the fields with their turnips. Even the son of a craftsman could not expect a chance to become literate and would be destined to be treated as a simpleton for his life, let alone a daughter of such family.
Yep, given it took the US military, what, 13 years to nail Bin Laden since he started blowing stuff up, I am sure your game of decapitation will be as fast and satisfying as getting a high score of whack-a-mole.
All that said, let me be the millionth person today to say "fuck that arsehole", congratulations to the lucky bastard that got to kill him.
I am an attorney & patent agent and I hold multiple degrees in mathematics and computer science, so I feel fairly competent to speak on this issue.
This is slashdot, "I'm some random arsehole with a strong opinion" qualifies you just as much, if not more.
Books most certainly can't be patented, not sure why you are bringing copyright up. I think _most_ of slashdot agrees with copyright (apart from the commenters on P2P file sharing stories), kind of bashing a straw man here.
I think someone pursuing missionary work probably has too much of a conscience to get rich on a "ministry business". Like saying that since the mob bosses who control sanitation in some Italian cities are rich, garbage disposal is a good career path.
I think it is pretty good. Fast, comfortable, much cheaper and more convenient than a plane ticket. The stewardesses are generally prettier and more friendly than the ones who work for Air China also. There are a lot of highspeed trains zipping all over the place and it is not exactly turning into a bloodbath.
Yeah, but 1/128 is exactly 0x3C000000 in IEEE-754 floating point, that's pretty easy to write and remember. 1/100 is approximately 0x3C23D70A which is simply an arbitrary mess that is off by about 2*10^-9. If I was dumb enough to write a financial system with floating point arithmetic, then using increments of 1/128 would be a great workaround that might just save my sorry job.
To my knowledge, Australian state government elections was where the secret ballot was first implemented.
And therein lies the problem, if you let a bunch of idiots pick something with absolutely no oversight or scrutiny you cannot be too upset if they pick the wrong thing. Try to increase taxes, the people will rise up. Get caught taking bribes, the people will rise up. Make it impossible to get the latest games, the people will generally not even know what they are missing.
I play computer games to escape the burdens of an unclear and often troubling life, not to celebrate them. Here's a suggestion, we keep doing what's we've been doing for the last 30 years because ripping through hundreds of "bad guys" based merely on the pretext that they are somehow not worth sparing is really, really fun.
I think the key with things like Uncharted's dissonant violence and dialogue is that as developers continue to make huge progress in finding new scenarios for exploring extreme violence and better digital simulation of extreme violence, they must be careful to also find better rationalization of extreme violence lest a discord arises in the player's mind. A concrete example of something to avoid is God of War's issue where you are ripping torsos off your foe with your bare hands and you do not feel awesome about it because you cannot shake that feeling that Kratos should not be doing that torso ripping in the first place. The game honestly does a pretty bad job at explaining to the player that the torso really does need to be gruesomely torn from the head and limbs and it's pretty jarring at times. Hopefully developers can learn from this article and players can feel more comfortable in future games.
Well, I can say that in China, everyone's pretty scared about fallout drifting westwards right now and have even stopped eating saltwater fish for fear of them being radioactive. People have been hoarding salt, most believing that there will be no clean salt left in the sea rather than anything to do with iodine. The Chinese government is extremely unlikely to step up nuclear energy policy while everyone's currently freaking out about Fukushima, they are not going to spend billions of yuan on some project that will just piss everyone off, that money would be spent on popular projects like maybe another huge hydro dam or an enormous bridge/tunnel to Hainan or something. You don't stay in power for 60 years by being politically naive. They're going ahead with current plans, because the money is mostly spent and the power is needed, but this is just pragmatism, not drive.
I think the Royal Navy of all military branches has the least excuse, since naval warfare has been a completely technical endeavor for the last 400 years. These are people who's lives are spent operating giant multi-billion dollar nuclear armed fighting platforms. These are people who's job it is to make sure they know every bolt in the ship and have a command structure in place so that nobody can screw up and sink the ship. Somehow not only did one person not actually remove the information, but the command structure that is meant to prevent such screwups failed to prevent the information from leaking.
Also, your expectations of computers are too high, what do you expect "Hi, it looks like you are redacting a classified naval document, would you like help?", it is the computer's job to obey when someone asks for black rectangles, it is a human's job to protect strategic objectives.
Obviously, he is a nerd who just wants a submissive Asian woman to serve him.
Try dating a Chinese or better yet Singaporean woman sometime and find out how submissive she is, "men rule the world, women rule men" is a maxim I have heard from Chinese.
Also, I have not met a Chinese programmer with a girlfriend/wife that scores under the 70th percentile. Chinese society is extremely shallow, meaning the guys with stable, well paid, white collar jobs can get pretty girls and that is what happens 90% of the time. Zuckerburg is a billionaire with a very plain woman, which probably means he loves her for something deeper.
Methinks you did not read that article so well. The twin paradox is not a paradox precisely because it is the swapping of inertial frames which is causing the apparent time dilation to begin with.
First programmable electronic computer (Colossus I) was British, first mechanical computer (difference engine) was British. Talking about WWII (which the post referred to), British computers were the only thing usefully employed in the war effort in a way that affected the outcome since Harvard Mark I was the United States' only computer like device during the war but was decimal and non branching, unlike the programmable, binary Colossus and Colossus II. Also the slash cryptography thing made Britain the only possible meaning since pre-war American cryptography was far behind any state in Europe, even the small ones due to slightly naive foreign policy. Also, I may point out that by the time the US had built a computer with program stored in RAM, or a binary based programmable computer, the UK had several and even Australia had one. The United States took a lead in many aspects of computing during the 80s and 90s, but of Britain's ARM is far more commonly used than America's x86 or Power architectures. America had a huge role in commercialising computers, but it was not very involved in inventing them.
I am not British by the way, but I believe in giving credit where it is due.
American tech was great (A-bomb, radar, penicillin, cryptography/computers)
A-bomb (American), radar (British), penicillin (British/Australian), cryptography/computers (British). Well, one out of four isn't bad...
You do know that the world's first working Aeroplane and Telephone were manufactured in America right? You could have actually mentioned some ACTUAL American tech.
Science is demonstrable, repeatable and self-correcting... for people who understand it. Maybe you understand it so well that you cannot emphasize with those who don't, or maybe you are just sprouting the scientific method that our science has been tested by as irrefutable dogma because you don't understand. It matters not, to most people a faith healer or a medium is just as much of a demonstration as any formula or experiment. Your second point is right on though, Science Delivers, penicillin kills bacteria, nuclear reactors generate heat, semiconductors calculate logic, satellites orbit and planes fly, all doing so in an obvious, undeniable manner that requires no pre-conceived beliefs to observe. Chinese hospitals love to give up herbal remedies, but they hand out a big pack of Azithromycin as well, in case it is serious and needs to be cured. Joe Sixpack might not trust science, but he knows that the engineers who built his car and the doctor who cured his heart murmur all trust science.