It seems to me that willfully installing gator on ones computer is like attaching one of those electronic dog training collars on ones self. It is something that does very little for you (its form filling capibilities are limited and pretty worthless) and allows its controller to zap you with really annoying little irritations.
Frankly I am vehemetly against loosing my computing freedom but I would very happily choose to loose the freedom to write exploitive parasiteware that does not help the user one bit.
Because there are Australian readers that come to Slashdot. Australians such as me, who lives in sydney, and is about to go to Homebush with a cordless drill and a slimjim to "volenteer" to "store" the excess exibits in his garage.
But probably they would just take up too much space and he would be forced to porn them for five bucks.
And anyway, there seems to be quite a few Australian readers/posters/self rightious slashdot zealots (just kidding). So in that case, I better get moving before they beat me to it.
What about the third scenario:
3. Caldera aquired SCO, used linux expertise to enhance the SCO codebase with linux code knowing it would be unfindable in a closed source product. When faced with ecconomic ruin, makes the claim that the reverse happened to create insentive for a takeover by IBM.
To deal with this eventuality, Clyde said patches would need to be developed more quickly and deployed continuously in an automated mode. Other areas that need to be worked on include adaptive management and lockdown of networks so an attack on one router is automatically recognized by all routers on the network; the ability to throttle back the throughput of suspicious packets on the network in order to limit damage; automated tools for ensuring that all network clients are compliant with security policies; and advances in securing Web services technologies that do not interfere with application performance, he said
Basically what he just said, in order, was:
1. If something breaks it should be fixed quickly soon
2. If something breaks you should turn it off before it breaks any more
3. You should try to make things not break
Those three principles are done simply as a matter of common sence by your average guy riding a bicycle, and I beleive those same principles are followed by good coders and good sysadmins as pretty much the most obvious part of their job.
The only difference between his suggestion an bicyle repair is that the computer system is automated, which is done with systems already in place on networks with competant sysadmins.
The whole suggestion is both facile and bleeding obvious and I hope that nobody was impressed by it.
One of the biggest slashdot barrows seems to be that information should be free. If one pirates kiddie pr0n, it is still sick, twisted and perverted. But is is far more morally justifiable, and possibly more legal (I am not sure about that however) than paying for it.
So, if our P2P file sharing networks get shut down, kiddie pr0n won't be leached for free as much, kiddie pr0n syndicates will get more money, they will abuse more children, and the RIAA will be directly responsible for all of the young girls and boys lives ruined through that industry.
And to think.... most of us thought Microsoft got dirty money for selling information in sleazy ways.
P.s. this post was not a joke.... well blaming the RIAA for child pr0n was, but the rest was serious.
Re:And now, a translation...
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I am a gentoo user, and I frankly don't give a damn about what you say about Gentoo. It after all is just a distro, I used to use Redhat, I didn't like it as much as Gentoo but I still activly encorage my friends to use it; even over Gentoo in many cases.
What does annoy me however is when people stereotype me and my Gentoo using friends as crazy "zealots" just because of the distro we use. You claim that we are hostile towards users of other distros yet flame us for ours, the irony is sickening.
Sorry, about the rant, but after seeing so much flamebait, I just had to bite.
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Oh wait this is slashdot. Anything non pro Linux is modded as flamebait or troll. But agaisnt any other os its including bsd is ok.
I am getting rather sick of people spouting out that same falisy about moderation. The Bungi has an Excelent karma (although he claims to the contrary in his.sig) and I havn't seen a single post of his that isn't an anti-linux rant.
Looking over your own posts I see many of your posts modded up, and I have seen very few of your posts that are not in a way anti-linux. You also appear to have exelent karma, showing that you have been modded high regually in the past. It seems ironic, in light of this discussion that it is your past moderation that undoes your argument.
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Just wondering, what do people here feel is an acceptable risk?
Shooting up a crew of seven to do what an unmanned lifting rocket could do for a 20th the price, or simply to dick around on a space station for a few months is simply a stupid risk to make. Yuri Gargarrin proved that humans could exist in space, that was we need to know until we think of something worthwhile to actually do up there. Perhaps the Russians found the first worthwhile thing to do with people up in that stupid domain of nothingness: provide entertainment for tourists for money. But now, because of the shuttles being suspended, the Russians need to use their soyutzs to ferry people to and fro from that stupid floating junkpile we call the ISS and they don't have any in reserve to do usefull things like make money.
You'd be hard pressed to make the airline industry perform so well
ROTFLMAO! That's why pilots and flight attendants have a 30 - 80 day (depending on the length of flight) average lifespan? And don't give me no crap about how the space shuttle flys further in a trip, because all that goes wrong happens on takeoff (Chalanger) and landing (Columbia), just like a plane.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for scientific discovery, but everything useful that can by done with humans in space was done in the sixties, now space "research" seems to be just a way to subsidise wothless contractors and risk people's lives, not that there arn't things worth dying for, it's just drumming in the point repeatadly that humans can live in space is hardly one of them. Maybe the money spent on maintaining those "reusable" monstrocities that cost more to maintain than any disposable rockets in existance (except maybe saturn V) could be spent in theoretical, non-dangerous, non-wasteful research by our friendly accedemics to find out how humans in space might actually benifit us as a race
This reminds me of that Russian probe that was sent to orbit mars, I forget which one it was. Well anyway they put a life-detector on it, but realised they hadn't tested the thing. So they pointed the detector at a bunch of low lying scrub, the kind that is typical on the Kazak Steppe. It didn't detect a thing. So they tore the sensor off the probe.
Ingenous rationality from the nation that pioneered using pencils in space. (think about that statement a little more closely before you hit me with a salvo of "nasa used pencils too" posts)
RMS is practically the father of open source (free as in speech software), maybe not the first one to practice it but definitly the first one to turn it into a whole branch of ideology.
Rms put back-breaking effort into Open Source softwear while Linus was still in highschool. He didn't just work for broader acceptance of Open Source, he pretty-much created open-source, and created many of the open source tools that Graham Taylor is promoting making him far more credible.
Plus, he would rant, and rave so long that the eu would have forgotton about patents long before they figure out a way to get him to shut up.
RMS may be a jerk, but he is a great, admirable and inspiring one.
Sorry for being whiney but I think all metric using, english speaking countries put the day before the month, i.e. 5th Oct. 1982 or 5/10/1982. Forming a nice natural progression between the smallest unit and the largest unit.
Of course I think the system that is used by the Japaneese amoung others, is even better: yyyy mm dd forming the same progression as the hindu arabic number system by putting the largest unit first.
I think around the world only three countries do not have a unit magnitude based progression, one of them is the US, another of them is somewhere in scandinavia and I think the other one may be Korea but I don't know, I should ask my Korean friend next time I see him.
All those needs are filled by our beloved rights online page: yro.slashdot.org. Personally I love yro, I have spent many fun hours whining about the world and blowing off steam in there. This is proven by the fact that I have had more of my posts modded flamebait there than anywhere else. Personally I LOOOVE to bitch and moan, and I love yro.slashdot.org for providing a forum for me to do that.
China and Russia have been seen as the epitomy of opressive totalitarian states in the twentieth century. The author was just being ironic.
But anyway, both communism and capiltalism are simply alternatives, industry in communist countries is owned and controlled by the government, in capitalist countries it is controlled by the corperations. In communist countries the laws are tightly controlled to benifit the governement, and, not suprisingly, the laws in capitalist countries are beginning to be tightly controled to benifit the corperations.
It is true that capitalism had allways been seen as connected tightly with freedom, but we must remember that during the early USSR, the people had unprecedented freedom, it just seems that capitalism takes a little longer to degenerate into a dictatorship.
After Russia backstabbed the U.S. in the Iraq war, do you think that we will still work together?
Since when has an act of dissagreement been considered an act of trechery? The UN is an organisation to discuss whether a war is justified or not, not a body to automatically approve any war that one of its members thinks is neccisary.
And the fact that Russia was slow to make up its mind shows carful thought, in the last thirteen years Russia has experianced more terror at the hands of Islamic extremists than most countries dare imagine, and the fact that Russia (a country known to take terrorism seriously, i.e. Chechnia) decided that Iraq, a country within striking distance of Russia was not worth invading was a more meaningful act than what France, the US or Germany could ever acheive by their rhetoric from the other side of the globe.
I think that there needs to be an import tax on all software development done outside the country!
You know, in India and Russia now there are people who now can afford food, and better housing because of the jobs they are getting, and I assure you, they were a lot worse off before they had their jobs than you are now. If you got a job at your local KFC you would be earning more and living more confortably than many Indians and Russians would in a proper job. Of course I agree with you that the software companies should be paying American wages and are cheap bastards for taking advantage of poverty to lower costs, but at least they are giving the money to the needy. A tax would just discorage this money flow towards poorer contries. The sooner the third world (and second world in Russia's case) gets onto their feet, the sooner our capitialists will not have a chance to save money through their poverty. Then, you will have the same chance as anyone else to get a tech job. But until then, be content in the fact that although you don't have the job you want, you still have police that are almost completly honest, sanitation and education.
Re:Dead Kenedys eat your heart out.
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All you punks and going down
Duplication I shall hound
Through this new precedent.
When its passed as law one day
All decenters I shall flay
I will tell all of you
That a burner's a pirates tool
Hollywood, Uber alles!
Forget your rights 'cause we now own ya
Micky mouse will control you
100% facial
You will pay to pay for our grace
To buy bits to fill your case
Vicious tyrants, have no fear
Circumvention's end is near
The browncoats won't come back you say
They never left you anyway
Hollywood, Uber alles!
Forget your rights 'cause we now own ya
Now it is two thousend and four
Knock Knocking at your front door
It's the copyright secret police
With a tax at the very least
Come quietly two the camp
You're a pirate 'cause you have winamp
Your PC we soon will scour
You own your stuff but we own the power
We pull laws from our ass
If we catch you then alas
You will crack you little clown!
'cause your rights are going down
All Fair use is going down!
Hollywood, Uber alles!
Forget your rights 'cause we now own ya
Man, I spent WAAAAAY too long writing this song, but the up-side is that every line rymes with its corresponding line of the DKs masterpiece, not as good as Holiday in Cambodia but still a damn good song.
Come to think of it, I have a pile of pirated DKs songs on my HD, is that ironic or fitting? I have no idea.
You really don't get the whole mentality around here do you?
As with much of capitalism, paying more gets you more
Many Slashdotters, especially the old guard kind beleive in the open source mentality thought up by Ritchard M Stallman two decades ago. That information once distributed should be outside the control of the creator. Microsoft has a buisiness model that stops the distributed information being used to its full potential. Such as not distributing human readable code alongside the distributed product, crippling some versions such as the standard edition, stopping the creation and distribution of derivitive works, and limiting the usage of information created through the program through obfuscated file formats.
Jesus, some days I think MS could liquidate and give all their money to the EFF and still get flamed by you people.
As the BSD team, The LINUX team, GNU, the Mozilla team, the Gnome and KDE teams and others have demonstrated, revinue is not needed to create great softwear. So many (not all) Slashdotters feel that any corperation that sacrifises usability for revinue is doing something intrinsically malicious and selfish.
Belive it or not, I was actually trying to give you some insight in who you are dealing with rather than pushing an ethical barrow, but I think I ended up doing a bit of both.
I feel that might be good for some things, like my prescription drug might be better off in a container only I could open
I agree with what you are saying in the most part and I don't want to quibble, but what if you were lying on the ground spasming and needed a tablet, but nobody could open the bottle, that would suck.
Duke nukem 3d... unreal, John Carmac did not program either of these games, unreal was coded by Tim Sweeny and Duke Nukem 3D wasn't coded by him either.
And of course John Carmac uses OpenGL not Direct 3D.
Carmack could have been working for NASA or the US military
You think games are a worthless waste of time? Try shooting bits of antiquated reusable, human piloted pieces of twenty year old junk into space when russians and europeans can do this cheaper and endager less lives. You think games encorage violence? Try an organisation that trains and arms people to kill.
It seems to me your little rant is the greatest example of anger dumping I have ever seen. The reason those boys could kill their classmates is that they were armed by a stupid anachronistic constitutional right and a culture of oppression bad enough to warp peoples minds.
Personally I find it sad that some people think it would be more constructive to make the United States Government into a totalitarion regime than it would be to provide hours of enjoyment to players, almost all of who never will kill classmates or have a single psychotic episode.
"Land of hope and glory, mother of the free..."
And for that matter! Rule Britania, Britania rules the waves, we... I mean they shall never never never never be enslaved!
That's why you don't get many Australians performing at the Proms!
If anybody wants to do something actually useful they can get rid of those frigging fig leaves!
Frankly I am vehemetly against loosing my computing freedom but I would very happily choose to loose the freedom to write exploitive parasiteware that does not help the user one bit.
And anyway, there seems to be quite a few Australian readers/posters/self rightious slashdot zealots (just kidding). So in that case, I better get moving before they beat me to it.
3. Caldera aquired SCO, used linux expertise to enhance the SCO codebase with linux code knowing it would be unfindable in a closed source product. When faced with ecconomic ruin, makes the claim that the reverse happened to create insentive for a takeover by IBM.
That sounds disturbingly possible to me.
So that makes your boobs argument totally irrelivent! HUH!
Basically what he just said, in order, was:
1. If something breaks it should be fixed quickly soon
2. If something breaks you should turn it off before it breaks any more
3. You should try to make things not break
Those three principles are done simply as a matter of common sence by your average guy riding a bicycle, and I beleive those same principles are followed by good coders and good sysadmins as pretty much the most obvious part of their job.
The only difference between his suggestion an bicyle repair is that the computer system is automated, which is done with systems already in place on networks with competant sysadmins.
The whole suggestion is both facile and bleeding obvious and I hope that nobody was impressed by it.
So, if our P2P file sharing networks get shut down, kiddie pr0n won't be leached for free as much, kiddie pr0n syndicates will get more money, they will abuse more children, and the RIAA will be directly responsible for all of the young girls and boys lives ruined through that industry.
And to think.... most of us thought Microsoft got dirty money for selling information in sleazy ways.
P.s. this post was not a joke.... well blaming the RIAA for child pr0n was, but the rest was serious.
What does annoy me however is when people stereotype me and my Gentoo using friends as crazy "zealots" just because of the distro we use. You claim that we are hostile towards users of other distros yet flame us for ours, the irony is sickening.
Sorry, about the rant, but after seeing so much flamebait, I just had to bite.
I am getting rather sick of people spouting out that same falisy about moderation. The Bungi has an Excelent karma (although he claims to the contrary in his .sig) and I havn't seen a single post of his that isn't an anti-linux rant.
Looking over your own posts I see many of your posts modded up, and I have seen very few of your posts that are not in a way anti-linux. You also appear to have exelent karma, showing that you have been modded high regually in the past. It seems ironic, in light of this discussion that it is your past moderation that undoes your argument.
Shooting up a crew of seven to do what an unmanned lifting rocket could do for a 20th the price, or simply to dick around on a space station for a few months is simply a stupid risk to make. Yuri Gargarrin proved that humans could exist in space, that was we need to know until we think of something worthwhile to actually do up there. Perhaps the Russians found the first worthwhile thing to do with people up in that stupid domain of nothingness: provide entertainment for tourists for money. But now, because of the shuttles being suspended, the Russians need to use their soyutzs to ferry people to and fro from that stupid floating junkpile we call the ISS and they don't have any in reserve to do usefull things like make money.
You'd be hard pressed to make the airline industry perform so well
ROTFLMAO! That's why pilots and flight attendants have a 30 - 80 day (depending on the length of flight) average lifespan? And don't give me no crap about how the space shuttle flys further in a trip, because all that goes wrong happens on takeoff (Chalanger) and landing (Columbia), just like a plane.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for scientific discovery, but everything useful that can by done with humans in space was done in the sixties, now space "research" seems to be just a way to subsidise wothless contractors and risk people's lives, not that there arn't things worth dying for, it's just drumming in the point repeatadly that humans can live in space is hardly one of them. Maybe the money spent on maintaining those "reusable" monstrocities that cost more to maintain than any disposable rockets in existance (except maybe saturn V) could be spent in theoretical, non-dangerous, non-wasteful research by our friendly accedemics to find out how humans in space might actually benifit us as a race
Ingenous rationality from the nation that pioneered using pencils in space. (think about that statement a little more closely before you hit me with a salvo of "nasa used pencils too" posts)
Rms put back-breaking effort into Open Source softwear while Linus was still in highschool. He didn't just work for broader acceptance of Open Source, he pretty-much created open-source, and created many of the open source tools that Graham Taylor is promoting making him far more credible.
Plus, he would rant, and rave so long that the eu would have forgotton about patents long before they figure out a way to get him to shut up.
RMS may be a jerk, but he is a great, admirable and inspiring one.
Sorry for being whiney but I think all metric using, english speaking countries put the day before the month, i.e. 5th Oct. 1982 or 5/10/1982. Forming a nice natural progression between the smallest unit and the largest unit.
Of course I think the system that is used by the Japaneese amoung others, is even better: yyyy mm dd forming the same progression as the hindu arabic number system by putting the largest unit first.
I think around the world only three countries do not have a unit magnitude based progression, one of them is the US, another of them is somewhere in scandinavia and I think the other one may be Korea but I don't know, I should ask my Korean friend next time I see him.
All those needs are filled by our beloved rights online page: yro.slashdot.org. Personally I love yro, I have spent many fun hours whining about the world and blowing off steam in there. This is proven by the fact that I have had more of my posts modded flamebait there than anywhere else. Personally I LOOOVE to bitch and moan, and I love yro.slashdot.org for providing a forum for me to do that.
But anyway, both communism and capiltalism are simply alternatives, industry in communist countries is owned and controlled by the government, in capitalist countries it is controlled by the corperations. In communist countries the laws are tightly controlled to benifit the governement, and, not suprisingly, the laws in capitalist countries are beginning to be tightly controled to benifit the corperations.
It is true that capitalism had allways been seen as connected tightly with freedom, but we must remember that during the early USSR, the people had unprecedented freedom, it just seems that capitalism takes a little longer to degenerate into a dictatorship.
Since when has an act of dissagreement been considered an act of trechery? The UN is an organisation to discuss whether a war is justified or not, not a body to automatically approve any war that one of its members thinks is neccisary.
And the fact that Russia was slow to make up its mind shows carful thought, in the last thirteen years Russia has experianced more terror at the hands of Islamic extremists than most countries dare imagine, and the fact that Russia (a country known to take terrorism seriously, i.e. Chechnia) decided that Iraq, a country within striking distance of Russia was not worth invading was a more meaningful act than what France, the US or Germany could ever acheive by their rhetoric from the other side of the globe.
I think that there needs to be an import tax on all software development done outside the country!
You know, in India and Russia now there are people who now can afford food, and better housing because of the jobs they are getting, and I assure you, they were a lot worse off before they had their jobs than you are now. If you got a job at your local KFC you would be earning more and living more confortably than many Indians and Russians would in a proper job. Of course I agree with you that the software companies should be paying American wages and are cheap bastards for taking advantage of poverty to lower costs, but at least they are giving the money to the needy. A tax would just discorage this money flow towards poorer contries. The sooner the third world (and second world in Russia's case) gets onto their feet, the sooner our capitialists will not have a chance to save money through their poverty. Then, you will have the same chance as anyone else to get a tech job. But until then, be content in the fact that although you don't have the job you want, you still have police that are almost completly honest, sanitation and education.
Duplication I shall hound
Through this new precedent.
When its passed as law one day
All decenters I shall flay
I will tell all of you
That a burner's a pirates tool
Hollywood, Uber alles!
Forget your rights 'cause we now own ya
Micky mouse will control you
100% facial
You will pay to pay for our grace
To buy bits to fill your case
Vicious tyrants, have no fear
Circumvention's end is near
The browncoats won't come back you say
They never left you anyway
Hollywood, Uber alles!
Forget your rights 'cause we now own ya
Now it is two thousend and four
Knock Knocking at your front door
It's the copyright secret police
With a tax at the very least
Come quietly two the camp
You're a pirate 'cause you have winamp
Your PC we soon will scour
You own your stuff but we own the power
We pull laws from our ass
If we catch you then alas
You will crack you little clown!
'cause your rights are going down
All Fair use is going down!
Hollywood, Uber alles!
Forget your rights 'cause we now own ya
Man, I spent WAAAAAY too long writing this song, but the up-side is that every line rymes with its corresponding line of the DKs masterpiece, not as good as Holiday in Cambodia but still a damn good song.
Come to think of it, I have a pile of pirated DKs songs on my HD, is that ironic or fitting? I have no idea.
As with much of capitalism, paying more gets you more
Many Slashdotters, especially the old guard kind beleive in the open source mentality thought up by Ritchard M Stallman two decades ago. That information once distributed should be outside the control of the creator. Microsoft has a buisiness model that stops the distributed information being used to its full potential. Such as not distributing human readable code alongside the distributed product, crippling some versions such as the standard edition, stopping the creation and distribution of derivitive works, and limiting the usage of information created through the program through obfuscated file formats.
Jesus, some days I think MS could liquidate and give all their money to the EFF and still get flamed by you people.
As the BSD team, The LINUX team, GNU, the Mozilla team, the Gnome and KDE teams and others have demonstrated, revinue is not needed to create great softwear. So many (not all) Slashdotters feel that any corperation that sacrifises usability for revinue is doing something intrinsically malicious and selfish.
Belive it or not, I was actually trying to give you some insight in who you are dealing with rather than pushing an ethical barrow, but I think I ended up doing a bit of both.
"Something like that,' said Peterson.
Lister squinted out of the window again. "and God, it is ugly!" (Grant Naylor, Red Dwarf "Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers")
What I really wanted to see was the space distorters making it possible to wrap around to the other side after crossing the outer border.
I agree with what you are saying in the most part and I don't want to quibble, but what if you were lying on the ground spasming and needed a tablet, but nobody could open the bottle, that would suck.
And of course John Carmac uses OpenGL not Direct 3D.
Carmack could have been working for NASA or the US military
You think games are a worthless waste of time? Try shooting bits of antiquated reusable, human piloted pieces of twenty year old junk into space when russians and europeans can do this cheaper and endager less lives. You think games encorage violence? Try an organisation that trains and arms people to kill.
It seems to me your little rant is the greatest example of anger dumping I have ever seen. The reason those boys could kill their classmates is that they were armed by a stupid anachronistic constitutional right and a culture of oppression bad enough to warp peoples minds.
Personally I find it sad that some people think it would be more constructive to make the United States Government into a totalitarion regime than it would be to provide hours of enjoyment to players, almost all of who never will kill classmates or have a single psychotic episode.
I think he means a standalone player, codecs are a lot easier to load on computers than standalone stuff.
How many do you have exactly?