However, when you are arrested, it is for a scecific crime
There's also a difference between being arrested and being charged. Many people are arrested and charged with nothing at all because there's insufficient evidence to warrant a formal criminal charge being brought.
I believe all charges are always publicly disclosed at the time of arrest.
You believe wrong. Arrests can be made for a host of reasons, ie, because the police believe a suspect poses a flight risk and they need to interrogate them in respect of a crime. The decision what to charge somebody with very often doesn't come until the after the suspect has been interrogated and the range of charges possible has been discussed with the District Attorney.
IMHO, the analogy should be that his crime was saying, "The NYT keeps your credit card information on their kitchen table, and they don't even have a lock on their back door."
No, his crime was the break in. Exposing the Times's idiocy was what provided the motive to ensure that that crime was prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
To return to the house with the flawed lock analogy, what Lamo did was equivalent of opening your front door, and then announcing to everyone in the street that you have a taste for erotica featuring barnyard animals.
If somebody hacked into one of my machines and then told me how to fix it, I'm afraid I'd be just the *teeniest* bit reluctant to take what they said at face value.
As a result, at the very least you've got to expect the NY Times had to pay for a forensic analysis of the network and a total rebuild of any compromised systems.
Would that cost $25,000? I dunno. It doesn't sound completely outlandish to me but I don't know anything about the NY times's systems.
SCO does have one good point: open source leaves way too much to chance where intellectual property is concerned.
I disagree. It's a collaborative voluntary effort that's used on an as-is basis. There should be no need to worry about this issue.
Maybe releases should be certified by an independent agency that hires lawyers to help work out the patent issues...
And who would pay? It would cost a fortune and *still* wouldn't be possible. Besides, do Microsoft do this? If so, how is it that they keep ending up on the bad end of patent law suits?
or maybe they should just release in countries like Europe until we fix some of the absurdities in our patent system?
Whatever people feel about Darl Mcbride bashing him don't do the Linux community any good.
On the contrary, linux users and developers have a reputation for being a bunch of joyless, humourless nerds. By bashing Darl McBride with the kind of anarchic creativity that we've seen over the past few months, the public image of the linux community has risen dramatically.
Remeber developers; that this could have been you as a developer in this situation, having to go to court against a big company like IBM in order to secure your intellectual property rights.
Please take Darl McBride's cock out of your mouth. The muffled grunts you are currently emanating are making you sound stupid.
But the appropriate response depended on the gender and relative attractiveness of the questioner. If the question was asked by a male, the answer was 'Your face, my arse'. However, if it was asked by a hot female, that could be reversed to 'Your arse, my face.'
Er, when will people see those "mega rich people" as Gods?
It has nothing to do with being Gods. Quite the opposite, in fact.
If I had Bill's billions, chances are, I'd be rolling around in my hot tub, snorting cocaine with supermodels on my D, as the song goes.
If I was hungry for some intellectual stimulation, I'd invite the leading theorists around to my house to share the supermodels and the coke with me -- and you just *know* they'd be there like a shot.
Would I be sitting here, reading the most profound thoughts of a bunch of adolescent geek wannabees?
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Likely because I'm 37 years old..
;-)
In that case, playing the game of 'Comparing the Dinkies' at your local junior high school is a somewhat inadvisable choice of recreational pastime.
You wouldn't run the mail server for your local Catholic diocese, by any chance?
However, when you are arrested, it is for a scecific crime
There's also a difference between being arrested and being charged. Many people are arrested and charged with nothing at all because there's insufficient evidence to warrant a formal criminal charge being brought.
I believe all charges are always publicly disclosed at the time of arrest.
You believe wrong. Arrests can be made for a host of reasons, ie, because the police believe a suspect poses a flight risk and they need to interrogate them in respect of a crime. The decision what to charge somebody with very often doesn't come until the after the suspect has been interrogated and the range of charges possible has been discussed with the District Attorney.
IMHO, the analogy should be that his crime was saying, "The NYT keeps your credit card information on their kitchen table, and they don't even have a lock on their back door."
No, his crime was the break in. Exposing the Times's idiocy was what provided the motive to ensure that that crime was prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
To return to the house with the flawed lock analogy, what Lamo did was equivalent of opening your front door, and then announcing to everyone in the street that you have a taste for erotica featuring barnyard animals.
Next time you drop your wallet in the street, I'll be sure NOT to pick it up and return it to you.
Jolly good. That way, it will still be there when I go back to look for it.
A 'Black Hat' would just quietly slip away, NOT draw attention to himself.
Right. No Black Hat ever used Social Engineering to compromise a system, did they?
Are you insane?
I would be if I was prepared to take the word of someone who had just penetrated my system, supposedly 'to help me out by telling me how to fix it.'
This kid sounds like a bright fish
He's gonna be a fresh fish soon though. He's cute as well. I wouldn't wanna be going to jail, looking as good as he does.
Well, he apparently told them how to fix it
If somebody hacked into one of my machines and then told me how to fix it, I'm afraid I'd be just the *teeniest* bit reluctant to take what they said at face value.
As a result, at the very least you've got to expect the NY Times had to pay for a forensic analysis of the network and a total rebuild of any compromised systems.
Would that cost $25,000? I dunno. It doesn't sound completely outlandish to me but I don't know anything about the NY times's systems.
Mom's prolly on welfair.
A future that you can also look forward to unless you brush up on your spelling.
Don't call it the "SCO kernel".
OK then, the GNU/SCO kernel.
No, that would be L. Ron practices.
No, he said blazing *speeds*, not a blazing motherboard/cpu.
Yes, I know you're trolling
Ah, yet another conversation between Mr. Pot and Mrs. Kettle regarding relative colour intensity.
Someone should mod this fucker up. This is the best response I've seen to SCO's outpourings so far.
SCO does have one good point: open source leaves way too much to chance where intellectual property is concerned.
I disagree. It's a collaborative voluntary effort that's used on an as-is basis. There should be no need to worry about this issue.
Maybe releases should be certified by an independent agency that hires lawyers to help work out the patent issues...
And who would pay? It would cost a fortune and *still* wouldn't be possible. Besides, do Microsoft do this? If so, how is it that they keep ending up on the bad end of patent law suits?
or maybe they should just release in countries like Europe until we fix some of the absurdities in our patent system?
Finland, perhaps?
Personally, I think old Darl is in need of a damn good fist-fucking.
Somebody dig out the CriSCO.
Wow, Windows XP Pro is a bargain by comparison.
No, even if they *paid* you to use Windows XP Pro, you'd still be being ripped off.
Bill Gates's patented ET phone home bugware steals your freedom and your soul. Just say no.
Whatever people feel about Darl Mcbride bashing him don't do the Linux community any good.
On the contrary, linux users and developers have a reputation for being a bunch of joyless, humourless nerds. By bashing Darl McBride with the kind of anarchic creativity that we've seen over the past few months, the public image of the linux community has risen dramatically.
Remeber developers; that this could have been you as a developer in this situation, having to go to court against a big company like IBM in order to secure your intellectual property rights.
Please take Darl McBride's cock out of your mouth. The muffled grunts you are currently emanating are making you sound stupid.
Hey Darl, you said you were gonna drop that eightball around at my house when the dealer delivered.
You've gone and smoked up the whole eightball to yourself again, haven't you?
Gopher? Gopher? You can still find the occasional Gopher site. eg
gopher://wiretap.area.com/
I wanna know what happened to WAIS.
Presto...the hat is any color but red.
He definitely looks like a brownhatter to me, but most male models do.
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But the appropriate response depended on the gender and relative attractiveness of the questioner. If the question was asked by a male, the answer was 'Your face, my arse'. However, if it was asked by a hot female, that could be reversed to 'Your arse, my face.'
Er, when will people see those "mega rich people" as Gods?
It has nothing to do with being Gods. Quite the opposite, in fact.
If I had Bill's billions, chances are, I'd be rolling around in my hot tub, snorting cocaine with supermodels on my D, as the song goes.
If I was hungry for some intellectual stimulation, I'd invite the leading theorists around to my house to share the supermodels and the coke with me -- and you just *know* they'd be there like a shot.
Would I be sitting here, reading the most profound thoughts of a bunch of adolescent geek wannabees?
I just can't see it somehow.
When I can trade karma for a blowjob, then I'll give a shit
I'm sure there are thousands of basement-dwelling geekboys who would be only too happy to oblige...