If you walk in the bad parts of London, who is going to attack you for your mobile phone?
Kids. Poor kids. In London, the chances are that they'll be black but British born. Here in Liverpool, they'll almost certainly be white. The thing they'll have in common is that they'll all be poor.
Just maybe these third worlders should work on developing their own countries and not leech off of Europeans? Europeans created just about everything on their own.
Yeah, right. Slavery played no part in building the USA. The exploitation of the natural resources of underdeveloped countries had no part in creating the British Empire's wealth.
The truth is, if we'd really had to do it on our own, we would never have reached the living standards that we have. We've only managed them because we've been able to exploit the third world .
You're probably a self hating white
Hey, I'm not the one who's all wound up about what 'immigrants' (which seems to be a euphemism for people who aren't white) stealing my job. I'm extremely confident about my ability to compete in the market. I'm not the one seeking to blame everyone else for my misfortunes. I'm just pointing to the irrationality and the historical inaccuracy of your argument -- not because I'll convince you, but because nonsense needs to be contested as a matter of course.
So tell me, did you support the invasion of Iraq
No, opposed it as yet another piece of pointless American adventurism that would inevitably turn into a second Vietnam.
Its people like you who lead the United States on its current path to becoming a third world cesspool.
Wow. Fancy my being able to accomplish all that from my home here in Liverpool, England.
Try and refute
Try and refute what? Try and make an intelligent coherent argument and I'll do it the justice it deserves. At the moment, your argument appears to be that the west shouldn't allow the third world to undergo economic development because the people who live there are poor and stupid and don't deserve jobs, but hey, you're complaining that they are taking *your* job, so they've gotta be doing something right.
First they came for the menial jobs. I never spoke out because I didn't have a menial job.
Somebody has obviously made a serious mistake then. Can I suggest you apply at the sign of the Golden Arches to find something more commensurate with your intellectual abilities?
So shouldn't I be able to modify the text of the EULA before cliking "I Agree"?
Create an additional sheet of paper -- an addendum to the EULA. Where it says 'do you agree to these terms and conditions', write 'Fuck you, no. I refuse to concede any rights and my purchase and use of this software shall be covered solely by existing consumer protection legislation.'
Then hit 'I agree', and send a copy of your note to Bill Gates, Michael Dell, whoever (no need to worry about an address or a stamp -- after all, they can't be bothered to provide you with a copy of their licenses, so they've set the precedent) and you're good to go.
Alternatively, you could just run warez and fuck 'em all.
Well, there's no arguing with that is there? Though my own experience is that I should never attribute anything to bugs before I've completely ruled out the possibility of my own error.
Did you compile them yourself then? How do you know that the problem wasn't due to an error in your compilation, rather than a problem with the kernel?
Probably because nobody can be bothered to respond to such an imbecilic remark. Sendmail and postfix are Mail Transport Agents, not Groupware. If you wanted to compare Exchange with a Linux equivalent, then there have been umpteen threads here in the past on the topic. This one, for example. Personally, I like this one but it isn't free. (At least not free as in beer. It's built on top of similar software to the free ones though.)
But do go on comparing apples with oranges if you wish. It doesn't hurt anyone, and it gives many of us a sense of smug superiority.
I can not complain about having to patch sendmail for the same
I'm so sorry, but you seem to be reading an imaginary slashdot thread in your own head, as opposed to this one, which is about the security holes in Sendmail and how using Postfix may be a better approach because of what a pain it is to keep it updated?
Perhaps you'd like to share your imaginary one with the rest of us and entertain us all some more?
I'm sorry, but I don't see how American foreign policy sparked the 9/11 terrorism. It seems to me that it was for religious reasons only, including:
American bases and troops in Saudi Arabia, the home of Islam.
American support of (Jewish) Israel against (Muslim) Palestine.
I'm sorry, but how do you manage to see this as anything *but* examples of American foreign policy?
But I think you're correct when you identify the things that are primarily responsible for the current European disenchantment with the USA. And it isn't so much the things themselves, but the degree of arrogance that says 'because we're the wealthiest and most powerful nation in the world, we're going to do what the fuck we like, regardless of what the rest of you think. That's what really gets up people's noses.
Even though most people's beef is with the American government, they complain about Americans being ignorant, uneducated, self-centered, obnoxious, obese, etc.
You definitely see a lot of that on the net -- particularly when you get the sort of flag-waving 'we're number one' attitude that you see at the start of this thread, but I really think that's just internet banter in the main. In my experience, most Europeans (certainly most British people) are actually very fond of Americans. We share a common language and a common set of cultural references, with enough differences to make the other intriguing.
But there's a significant cultural difference between us. I think it was Shaw who said that patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel, and Americans come across as just too damn patriotic for their own good. After all, who the hell is going to keep the politicians in check if you're all preoccupied by waving the flag at every possible opportunity?
We could have turned Vietnam into a sheet of glass if we had wanted. We didn't for political reasons. You know, that whole "trying to avoid doomsday" Cold War thing.
I think you mean "that whole trying to avoid being identified as the biggest war criminals since the Nazis thing."
Maybe you haven't gotten that far in your history book.
Oh no, I got that far alright. You got your asses kicked by a bunch of technologically backward people living in mud huts, and all the 'we coulda, we shoulda' wishful thinking won't change that fact.
And you Europeans sure are obsessed with Fox News. I don't know anyone that watches it.
So let me guess? Rush Limbaugh? Howard Stern? Your political analysis is clearly derived from something of that order of sophistication.
The fact that it's Windows only would be the least of your worries. If CDR is an unstable medium, how much more unstable is paper?
It rips, it burns, it turns yellow with age, you spill coffee over it...
My war3z and pr0n is staying on the mirrored IDE raid until the next disk upgrade.
Heh. I love this. I can just imagine it. Two acne'd basement dwellers are waiting for an interview at the sign of the Golden Arches...
AC1: Of course, this isn't my real job. I'm just waiting for a gig as a sys admin to come along.
AC2: Hmm. I don't suppose you read Slashdot, do you?
AC1: Why yes, from time to time.
AC2: What account name do you post under?
AC2: Oh, I don't bother logging in...
AC1: Aieeeee! Die, motherfucker...
For the first time in history, a power has the capacity to erase ALL the benighted scum who choose to aggress against it - while those same scum don't have shit.
You could have said the same thing about Vietnam. Northern Ireland. South Africa. A host of places.
Turn off the Fox Network and pick up a history book sometime.
Slashdot Mirror
Sigh.. It was supposed to be a joke, not a piece of evangelism, but there's always one, isn't there?
No, Apple just has a hell of a lot of really smart people in marketing
Can you say Powerbook? Can you say OSX? Can you say G5?
They do have a lot of smart people in marketing, but their products currently kick Wintel's ass all over the place as well.
And I use both on a daily basis, so I *am* in a position to know. Are you?
What makes you think that Bill does not read Slashdot?
His money. If *you* had all those billions in the bank, would you be sitting here reading this drivel?
How about focusing on "equal oppertunities" instead
Damn... are those the dulcet strains of 'Dualling Banjos' that I hear being played as a soundtrack to this post?
Clearly there's no chance of *you* ever being hired over Wendy Seltzer -- unless they introduce affirmative action for hillbillies, anyway.
That's a terrible toupee that she's wearing. She should bite the bullet and go full-on slaphead.
Jobs.
I think that's because Steve is still about and Apple are going from strength to strength.
Also, kibo is about *usenet* -- and predated the dot.com thing by many years. The dot.com boom was all about the web.
But when did you ever see this sort of article about the interweb get anything right?
I seriously doubt Burst.com didn't plan this.
How could Burst.com plan to have Microsoft conceal 35 weeks worth of emails?
If you walk in the bad parts of London, who is going to attack you for your mobile phone?
Kids. Poor kids. In London, the chances are that they'll be black but British born. Here in Liverpool, they'll almost certainly be white. The thing they'll have in common is that they'll all be poor.
Just maybe these third worlders should work on developing their own countries and not leech off of Europeans? Europeans created just about everything on their own.
Yeah, right. Slavery played no part in building the USA. The exploitation of the natural resources of underdeveloped countries had no part in creating the British Empire's wealth.
The truth is, if we'd really had to do it on our own, we would never have reached the living standards that we have. We've only managed them because we've been able to exploit the third world .
You're probably a self hating white
Hey, I'm not the one who's all wound up about what 'immigrants' (which seems to be a euphemism for people who aren't white) stealing my job. I'm extremely confident about my ability to compete in the market. I'm not the one seeking to blame everyone else for my misfortunes. I'm just pointing to the irrationality and the historical inaccuracy of your argument -- not because I'll convince you, but because nonsense needs to be contested as a matter of course.
So tell me, did you support the invasion of Iraq
No, opposed it as yet another piece of pointless American adventurism that would inevitably turn into a second Vietnam.
Starting to look like I was right.
Well our company is based in Canada, and it costsed $725 canadian, not US
That would make those Dual Xeons cost $520US, and thus your story grows even *more* far fetched...
Its people like you who lead the United States on its current path to becoming a third world cesspool.
Wow. Fancy my being able to accomplish all that from my home here in Liverpool, England.
Try and refute
Try and refute what? Try and make an intelligent coherent argument and I'll do it the justice it deserves. At the moment, your argument appears to be that the west shouldn't allow the third world to undergo economic development because the people who live there are poor and stupid and don't deserve jobs, but hey, you're complaining that they are taking *your* job, so they've gotta be doing something right.
First they came for the menial jobs. I never spoke out because I didn't have a menial job.
Somebody has obviously made a serious mistake then. Can I suggest you apply at the sign of the Golden Arches to find something more commensurate with your intellectual abilities?
So shouldn't I be able to modify the text of the EULA before cliking "I Agree"?
Create an additional sheet of paper -- an addendum to the EULA. Where it says 'do you agree to these terms and conditions', write 'Fuck you, no. I refuse to concede any rights and my purchase and use of this software shall be covered solely by existing consumer protection legislation.'
Then hit 'I agree', and send a copy of your note to Bill Gates, Michael Dell, whoever (no need to worry about an address or a stamp -- after all, they can't be bothered to provide you with a copy of their licenses, so they've set the precedent) and you're good to go.
Alternatively, you could just run warez and fuck 'em all.
In post-Soviet Russia, gangster extortionists are a constant hazard of doing business.
SCO would fit in pretty well over there.
he is one of us
One of us? One of us?
Gooble gobble, gooble gobble,
We accept you, we accept you,
Gooble gobble, gooble gobble
We accept you, one of us.
Tod Browning's Freaks
Well, there's no arguing with that is there? Though my own experience is that I should never attribute anything to bugs before I've completely ruled out the possibility of my own error.
Hence the question.
These were both "stock" (kernel.org) kernels.
Did you compile them yourself then? How do you know that the problem wasn't due to an error in your compilation, rather than a problem with the kernel?
No one will answer you....
Probably because nobody can be bothered to respond to such an imbecilic remark. Sendmail and postfix are Mail Transport Agents, not Groupware. If you wanted to compare Exchange with a Linux equivalent, then there have been umpteen threads here in the past on the topic. This one, for example. Personally, I like this one but it isn't free. (At least not free as in beer. It's built on top of similar software to the free ones though.)
But do go on comparing apples with oranges if you wish. It doesn't hurt anyone, and it gives many of us a sense of smug superiority.
I can not complain about having to patch sendmail for the same
I'm so sorry, but you seem to be reading an imaginary slashdot thread in your own head, as opposed to this one, which is about the security holes in Sendmail and how using Postfix may be a better approach because of what a pain it is to keep it updated?
Perhaps you'd like to share your imaginary one with the rest of us and entertain us all some more?
Actually, here is a really nice account of how one man's relationship with the USA has changed over the last five years.
I'm sorry, but I don't see how American foreign policy sparked the 9/11 terrorism. It seems to me that it was for religious reasons only, including:
American bases and troops in Saudi Arabia, the home of Islam.
American support of (Jewish) Israel against (Muslim) Palestine.
I'm sorry, but how do you manage to see this as anything *but* examples of American foreign policy?
But I think you're correct when you identify the things that are primarily responsible for the current European disenchantment with the USA. And it isn't so much the things themselves, but the degree of arrogance that says 'because we're the wealthiest and most powerful nation in the world, we're going to do what the fuck we like, regardless of what the rest of you think. That's what really gets up people's noses.
Even though most people's beef is with the American government, they complain about Americans being ignorant, uneducated, self-centered, obnoxious, obese, etc.
You definitely see a lot of that on the net -- particularly when you get the sort of flag-waving 'we're number one' attitude that you see at the start of this thread, but I really think that's just internet banter in the main. In my experience, most Europeans (certainly most British people) are actually very fond of Americans. We share a common language and a common set of cultural references, with enough differences to make the other intriguing.
But there's a significant cultural difference between us. I think it was Shaw who said that patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel, and Americans come across as just too damn patriotic for their own good. After all, who the hell is going to keep the politicians in check if you're all preoccupied by waving the flag at every possible opportunity?
We could have turned Vietnam into a sheet of glass if we had wanted. We didn't for political reasons. You know, that whole "trying to avoid doomsday" Cold War thing.
I think you mean "that whole trying to avoid being identified as the biggest war criminals since the Nazis thing."
Maybe you haven't gotten that far in your history book.
Oh no, I got that far alright. You got your asses kicked by a bunch of technologically backward people living in mud huts, and all the 'we coulda, we shoulda' wishful thinking won't change that fact.
And you Europeans sure are obsessed with Fox News. I don't know anyone that watches it.
So let me guess? Rush Limbaugh? Howard Stern? Your political analysis is clearly derived from something of that order of sophistication.
What I'm curious about is how Euro's recieve the Daily Show.
That's easily settled. We don't.
The fact that it's Windows only would be the least of your worries. If CDR is an unstable medium, how much more unstable is paper? It rips, it burns, it turns yellow with age, you spill coffee over it... My war3z and pr0n is staying on the mirrored IDE raid until the next disk upgrade.
Heh. I love this. I can just imagine it. Two acne'd basement dwellers are waiting for an interview at the sign of the Golden Arches...
AC1: Of course, this isn't my real job. I'm just waiting for a gig as a sys admin to come along.
AC2: Hmm. I don't suppose you read Slashdot, do you?
AC1: Why yes, from time to time.
AC2: What account name do you post under?
AC2: Oh, I don't bother logging in...
AC1: Aieeeee! Die, motherfucker...
where can I get burn victim porn?
Try http://www.rotten.com
For the first time in history, a power has the capacity to erase ALL the benighted scum who choose to aggress against it - while those same scum don't have shit.
You could have said the same thing about Vietnam. Northern Ireland. South Africa. A host of places.
Turn off the Fox Network and pick up a history book sometime.