However, Linus et. al. certainly could sue SCO for every penny they've made selling Linux.
What are his damages then? To bring a lawsuit, you have to be able to show damages. What are SCO's actions costing Linus et. al.
Answer: nothing. Ergo, no damages, no law suit.
SCO's lawyers may be a useless bunch of asshats, but I imagine they *are* taking legal advice on such matters and aren't likely to expose themselves so stupidly.
Clearly this is more evidence of BSD's demise? If they'd hosted Sitefinder on a Windows 2003 server, today Sitefinder be growing by 30% a day, returning an extra third of our inaccurate URLs as paid advertisements for Viagra and porn.
The greatest thinkers weren't college suckups, but rebels. (...) Gates stole computer time, Steve Jobs stole telephone connections with his preak boxes.
Some mistake here, surely? Gates and Jobs, greatest thinkers of our time?
or it might be your face that get smashed when you accidently meet one of them at a software convent.
Damn, that's some seriously un-nun-like behaviour going on in that place. The last thing I want is a smack in the face from Sister Mary Loyola Stallman, Mother Superior Torvalds or any of the other Little Sisters of the Penguin.
I always knew it wasn't just Darl who was smoking the stone here. I knew the lawyers had to be suffering from paranoia and cocaine psychosis as well.
My theory is that this whole law suit came about following one particularly heavy night hitting the pipe. When McBride, Sontag, Boies etc. began to get that familiar disturbing feeling of having maggots burrowing beneath their skin, one of them proposed that the running the GNU debugger might be the best way to get rid of them.
When that didn't work, in their crack-addled minds, they decided that they were going to make developers of free software pay for their drug-induced distress, and so targeted the GNU/Linux system for this lawsuit.
Don't go crying that the NDA is bad because no one else can know, it's just an appropriate way to keep SCO's claims in secret until the legal matters have been settled.
In what possible universe is this appropriate? Firstly, given the fact that SCO's suit is one in which they are claiming their IP is breached, it would be impossible for open source developers to look at the code under an NDA without then laying themselves open to other similar suits from SCO. Therefore SCO know that no serious Open Source developer is going to take them up on this.
I believe they are intent on preserving the problem for as long as possible, because they want to maximize gains on their lawsuits
It doesn't work that way I'm happy to say. Damages are awarded on the basis of the financial consequences suffered. The plaintiff has an obligation to try and mitigate those losses, and in this case, that would include informing those people it believes are responsible (i.e. linux developers) of exactly which sections of code violate their copyright in order that they can do something about fixing it.
Of course, the truth is that SCO can't do this because they don't actually have a lawsuit against any linux developers -- aside from IBM and their action against IBM is for breach of contract. They've made a lot of accusations, but from where I sit, those are just a lot of bluster being used as a misdirection to facilitate their shakedown.
That may be your idea of business, but it's an extremely risky gamble when you're proposing to go up against Big Blue in court. Personally, I think Darl McBride's sphincter has gone into a spastic spasm since he realized that IBM are going to call his bluff. All SCO have left now is the stock price scam so why would he want it resolving any time soon?
I've tried many times, but I'm fucked if I can make any sense at all out of something that reads 'heart, heart, circle, cross, triangle, little aeroplane, arrow, camel, dogcow, square'.
How does drawing attention to his break-in HELP the BlackHat?
By covering his presence in the logs. "Oh and by the way, I did break into your system, but not to worry, I was just there to check on your holes. Now just you upgrade your sendmail and everything will be fine..."
And of course, you're making the rather dubious assumption that people who go around breaking into other people's systems are rational. I don't see any evidence for such a proposition.
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What does matter however is Great Britain controlled 2/3 of the world in 1939. It was extreme hypocricy to suggest the British had a any more right to the world as Germany.
He said he had a cat, not a big cat.
Shouldn't that be:
1.) Stupid
2.) Annoying
3.) ????
4.) Dumb
However, Linus et. al. certainly could sue SCO for every penny they've made selling Linux.
What are his damages then? To bring a lawsuit, you have to be able to show damages. What are SCO's actions costing Linus et. al.
Answer: nothing. Ergo, no damages, no law suit.
SCO's lawyers may be a useless bunch of asshats, but I imagine they *are* taking legal advice on such matters and aren't likely to expose themselves so stupidly.
IANAL
Clearly.
That's too complex. He needs a starter book. Humour for Dummies is probably more his mark.
Hmm. Let me see...
According to Verisign, Sitefinder is dying. People opposed to innovation are stifling it.
According to this post, Sitefinder runs on BSD.
Clearly this is more evidence of BSD's demise? If they'd hosted Sitefinder on a Windows 2003 server, today Sitefinder be growing by 30% a day, returning an extra third of our inaccurate URLs as paid advertisements for Viagra and porn.
Perhaps he meant Das Boot?
but the same redundent nonsense is posted, and modded up, every time a mac story is posted
Um, you mean redundant crap exactly like your post, or just the redundant crap on the other side?
And of course the special effects will be better than the BBC version's were
Yeah, those radio special effects are a bitch, aren't they? All bangs and whoops, etc. and no computer generated graphics whatsoever, just pure story.
Never play cards with a man called Doc
Never eat at a place called Moms
And never sleep with a woman whose problems are worse than your own.
Nelson Algren
The greatest thinkers weren't college suckups, but rebels. (...) Gates stole computer time, Steve Jobs stole telephone connections with his preak boxes.
Some mistake here, surely? Gates and Jobs, greatest thinkers of our time?
I believe they invented the interweb as well.
This has all the exciting hallmarks of the most boring story in the world.
And not only did you read i6, but you're actually participating in a fairly lengthy discussion about it.
And the fact that your comment has been modded up as funny all goes to show that its a real slow news day on Slashdot today.
If we were, we'd just gas everyone in Utah and that'd fix the problem.
Hey, you tried it with the Native Americans, why on earth shouldn't you extend your country's genocidal history to Mormons as well?
For me, it's the Baltic region (Lithuania). But it could be Rotterdam, or Liverpool, or anywhere I roam.
Rotterdam, Liverpool and Lithuania? You wouldn't be a heroin smuggler by any chance?
or it might be your face that get smashed when you accidently meet one of them at a software convent.
Damn, that's some seriously un-nun-like behaviour going on in that place. The last thing I want is a smack in the face from Sister Mary Loyola Stallman, Mother Superior Torvalds or any of the other Little Sisters of the Penguin.
I'm keeping my mouth firmly shut.
No, no. That should be BUY me a large one.
Mine's a scotch, thanks.
So, you would like to coerce technically less adept people into making decisions about their operating system or even coerce them into installing it?
Heh. Characterizing choice as coercion. I love it.
Best troll ever!
Thank you for providing the exhibit A352
Objection, your honour.
This exhibit is irrelevant and has no bearing on the case.
it's safe to say SCO and its crack legal team
I always knew it wasn't just Darl who was smoking the stone here. I knew the lawyers had to be suffering from paranoia and cocaine psychosis as well.
My theory is that this whole law suit came about following one particularly heavy night hitting the pipe. When McBride, Sontag, Boies etc. began to get that familiar disturbing feeling of having maggots burrowing beneath their skin, one of them proposed that the running the GNU debugger might be the best way to get rid of them.
When that didn't work, in their crack-addled minds, they decided that they were going to make developers of free software pay for their drug-induced distress, and so targeted the GNU/Linux system for this lawsuit.
Don't go crying that the NDA is bad because no one else can know, it's just an appropriate way to keep SCO's claims in secret until the legal matters have been settled.
In what possible universe is this appropriate? Firstly, given the fact that SCO's suit is one in which they are claiming their IP is breached, it would be impossible for open source developers to look at the code under an NDA without then laying themselves open to other similar suits from SCO. Therefore SCO know that no serious Open Source developer is going to take them up on this.
I believe they are intent on preserving the problem for as long as possible, because they want to maximize gains on their lawsuits
It doesn't work that way I'm happy to say. Damages are awarded on the basis of the financial consequences suffered. The plaintiff has an obligation to try and mitigate those losses, and in this case, that would include informing those people it believes are responsible (i.e. linux developers) of exactly which sections of code violate their copyright in order that they can do something about fixing it.
Of course, the truth is that SCO can't do this because they don't actually have a lawsuit against any linux developers -- aside from IBM and their action against IBM is for breach of contract. They've made a lot of accusations, but from where I sit, those are just a lot of bluster being used as a misdirection to facilitate their shakedown.
That may be your idea of business, but it's an extremely risky gamble when you're proposing to go up against Big Blue in court. Personally, I think Darl McBride's sphincter has gone into a spastic spasm since he realized that IBM are going to call his bluff. All SCO have left now is the stock price scam so why would he want it resolving any time soon?
try reading dingbat
I've tried many times, but I'm fucked if I can make any sense at all out of something that reads 'heart, heart, circle, cross, triangle, little aeroplane, arrow, camel, dogcow, square'.
Give me helvetica any day.
I believe that Grey Area in Amsterdam is running a training programme for US proprietors.
"I'm a British tourist
And I'm very very rude.
I hate the foreigners
I hate their stinking food.
I don't like French or Germans
Or care for Belgians much
But most of all, most of all
I hate the Dutch!
The Dutch, the Dutch
With fingers in their dikes
They use the wrong side of the road
And ride around on bikes.
They don't have any manners
They don't say "thanks" or "please"
And all they eat is tulips
And stinking gouda cheese."
British Tourist,
John Dowie
I don't like pejorative label of terrorist. It just doesn't rhyme.
Ahem.
You nasty evil terrorist,
You've made John Ashcroft really pissed,
Before his eyes, he sees red mist,
He's got your name on the pick up list.
How does drawing attention to his break-in HELP the BlackHat?
By covering his presence in the logs. "Oh and by the way, I did break into your system, but not to worry, I was just there to check on your holes. Now just you upgrade your sendmail and everything will be fine..."
And of course, you're making the rather dubious assumption that people who go around breaking into other people's systems are rational. I don't see any evidence for such a proposition.
What does matter however is Great Britain controlled 2/3 of the world in 1939. It was extreme hypocricy to suggest the British had a any more right to the world as Germany.
You are David Irving and I claim my five pounds!