this is part of the broader "left wing media bias" narrative that the right wing has worked hard to establish.
For anyone who remembers what came out about MSNBC and Bernie after 2016, or pays attention to the coverage of him now vs the establishment candidates like Beto, Biden & Harris, or remembers when the media closed ranks to promote the Iraq War or the 2008 Bank Bailout you know the media's bias is hard right when it counts: economics.
Hell, the media was center-right on Gay Marriage until around 2014 or so. Go watch them grill Bernie on Medicare for All while giving Biden a pass on his attacks on Social Security. All this before Sinclair media bought out every local TV station.
And we shouldn't be surprised about the media's biases when it comes to the economy or the stuff that really matters. Look at who owns them. Always, always, always follow the money.
to systems people never upgrade. Seriously, it was for stuff like Point of Sale and cheap laptops. Folks don't upgrade those unless the system breaks, catches fire, burns to ashes and a dog sneezes on the ashes. If it's a cat they might still call in IT to fix it (smaller sneeze).
via humor that doesn't actually lampoon them, but makes them relatable. PDP isn't actively trying to do this, btw. If he was it'd be easier to spot him for what he's doing. Instead he's responding to whatever gets him attention and views.
Making fun of Nazis ala Monty Python is old hat. If PDP tried that folks would shrug and go watch Monty Python. If they wanted blue humor CK & Chapelle both do it better. So he just flies Nazi flags and waits for the views to roll in from the controversy. Meanwhile he's made plain Nazi iconography just a little more normalized in society at large. He's made it hard to tell the difference between "just doing it for the lulz" and actual Nazis. And he's given the actual Nazis cover, many of whom after the "Unit the Right" lobby used the same excuse of "the lulz" as PDP did.
There were never any actual rappers using their music to form gangs (there was a bunch of drug money laundering going on though) and there weren't any real Satanic cults using D&D to lure helpless victims. There _are_ Nazis using PDP and other YouTubers like him to recruit.
hopefully using our reasoning abilities instead of emotion or (worse) authority. But when you just throw you're hands up and say "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" you're not being a free speech warrior, you're just trying to absolve yourself of responsibility for your actions (or lack thereof).
if I paid more my car wouldn't be any safer. More of the fancy safety features are things like lane assist and automatic breaking. I can do both of those things without a computer telling me, and having them is likely to lull me into a false sense of security.
One of the most maddeningly dangerous drivers I've ever met drives modern Lexuses with all the bells and whistles. Gets a new one about every 3-5 years after he wrecks the old one. He's not any better off in the crashes because of the Lexus (even my 2014 Sentra has airbags up the wazoo) and he crashes just as often as he did before he had those features.
Finally, Airlines != Car Companies. The Airlines and plane manufactures are quasi-public companies. They have to be. If you're letting several tons of metal fly over cities 365 days a year you can't leave that up to private citizens. We just tried actually, and this is the result.
We're just lucky this didn't happen over a populated area. Keep this up and it will.
even the cheapest car on the market right now has a raft of safety features. Once you get to the level of a Nissan Sentra or Toyota Corolla there's not much difference between that and a BMW. The advanced features of the BMW can easily be compensated for with more careful driving.
In this case it's more like if a Tesla's auto pilot engaged and sent you careening off a cliff.
on their ties to White Supremacy and Neo-Nazis. The Alt-Right has been using dog whistles to cosy up with those two groups since day 1 without taking any flack to speak of. It's both dangerous and disingenuous to allow that to go on.
What I'm saying is this: The Alt-Right are not your friends. They're a friendly face on the same Authoritarian arm of the right wing that's been around since the 20s. They exist specifically to legitimize and normalize something that was rightly recognized as horrific post WWII and the Civil Rights movement.
Now, you can find pages and pages of posts, documents and hours of video of their leadership talking about this, but you have to plow through a lot of crap to get to it. In the old days we had professional journalists doing that work. Nowadays it's YouTubers.
since I've never been. I guess you could fly me there, fly me back, and then fly me back again. Seems counterproductive when you could just vote Bernie in the primary, Bernie in the General, vote a left wing Congress in (Senate _and_ House) and solve all these damn problems. I mean, we've known the solutions for years, but greed fucks (the Yuppies that grew into the Boomers) won't let us because, hey, they got theirs, fuck me (and maybe you, unless you're one of them), amiright?
For those who don't want to be bothered watching the video (or can't stand Cult of Dusty, which I can't really blame you for), PDP had a large number of alt-right personalities he was following and after the New Zealand shooter he emptied his followers list.
PDP may or may not actually believe any of the things the alt-right does. But he absolutely uses the movement and it's fans to his advantage. The controversial things he's done have almost exclusively appealed to the alt-right.
Like a lot of YouTubers he's figured out that the alt-right is a powerful engine for increasing views and ad revenue. But feeding off that isn't a one way street. He's normalizing and legitimizing the worst aspects of that community. And not just him. Other YouTubers like Sargon of Arkad, JonTron and Ben Shapiro are doing the same. Go look up some videos from Contrapoints, Three Arrows and hbomberguy on the subject. They're far better than anything I could type.
There's an entire engine on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook dedicated to exploiting angry, bitter, jobless young men for ad revenue and Pateron donations. I'm bloody sick of it. It's dangerous as fuck. Eventually a real demagogue will come along and organize them into brown shirts.
has certain social responsibilities (note: social responsibilities, not legal ones). One of those is fostering a discourse and an environment that is overall a net positive.
I haven't watched PDP, but he's had a mess of nasty controversies around racial themes. Ones he was pretty obviously doing on purpose because, as the saying goes, there's no such thing as bad publicity. And he was right. The backlashes have all blow over and he's kept the dough rolling in. But at a cost. That cost is normalizing a certain form of behavior. When it's out in the open like that and nobody's getting censored (that's censored in the social sense, not the legal/governmental sense) it because acceptable.
That's sort of the problem. It's the old "boil a frog" analogy. Yeah, you can't really boil a frog, but it's easy to convince folks you can because it's a relatable thing for humans. The idea that you can get accustom to something awful or even deadly.
We've got too many examples of horrifying things being normalized bit by bit to ignore this. The world at large should call PDP on his racist bullshit whether he means it or not and send him packing. He's not starting an honest discussion of racial issues. He's just a rancid troll winding angry kids up and sending them off.
all but one. Several left wingers on YouTube went through the list before hand and found a ton of Alt-Right guys, including some really nasty ones. Look up a guy named Cult of Dusty on YouTube and he talks about some of the worst ones. Several white supremacists and extreme right wing folk were in there.
I don't think he himself is a white supremacist, but I also don't think he put any effort into avoiding them. For someone as visible as he is that's just bad all around.
This seems to be a point of contention, but the Israeli government is not the final end all, be all of Jewishness. I'll remind everybody of Trump's "Good people on both sides" comment and that he cut back on enforcement of anti-Hate and anti-Domestic Terrorism. He didn't do that for the sake of the Muslims.
The right does not support Jews or Israel, _Evangelicals_ support Israel because their reading of their holy books is that Jesus will take them to paradise when all the Jews are brought to Israel. Evangelicals aren't really right wing, but they will vote for the GOP because the GOP will let them do what they want as long as they vote for their tax cuts in return. Before the GOP figured this out the Evangelicals were buddy buddy with the left wing because they were working class people who wanted better pay, educations for their kids, safe work environments and clean air. They traded that in for concessions on social issues (Abortion, Israel, Prayer in Schools, etc). This kind of wedge issue creation is how American politics (and politics in General) work.
The "right" generally accepts all comers as long as you're willing to sign on for weak regulation, low taxes and few worker protections. This is why Fascists end up on the right here in America (instead of being ostracized by both left and right as the nut jobs they are). The same goes for Racists and literal Nazis. The American right will let anyone into their tent as long as you support their economic platform of low taxes and weak worker protection.
I was never a fan (not being a 13 year old girl when he broke) but somewhere along the line he pivoted to attracting the Alt-Right viewers and seemed to have gone off the deep end. Then again I was never a fan, maybe he always was like this. At any rate the fans he's attracting were already scary and that was before this and that mess in New Zealand.
the ones I know work the same hours as the Americans. Rather, it's about keeping wages down and about not having to pay to train. And not just the training the business does. Don't forget that the US has been slashing funding to education for decades. We couldn't get away with that if we didn't have a supply of trained people.
I think it's more likely that the entrenched tobacco companies are pushing this behind the scenes while they rev up their own e-cig products. I know for a fact they've attacked small tobacco producers before (a buddy of mine smokes a pipe and he's pretty pissed at recent regulations).
the idea is that e-cigs, being so new, could have health risks that nobody knows. Or that poor regulation of them might lead to contaminates that are worse for you then regular cigs or pot.
I still think it's a terrible idea, but I oppose prohibition across the board. Legal, taxed and regulated.
I've lost jobs to Canadian outsourcing because companies didn't want to deal with our screwed up healthcare system. One of the worst/best was when a US based insurance company moved it's call center operations to Canada.
That said, if this really is just H1-Bs shifting to Canada I find it really hard to care. I couldn't have gotten those jobs anyway and to be blunt I see very, very little of the benefits from immigration here in America. Without robust set of programs to take advantage of those economic wealth generated it's all just money going to the top. Even small businesses can be hurt since they're left to compete with companies that can hire engineers for less money (though it's debatable whether wage depression brought on by the influx of cheap labor offsets that).
Repeat after me kiddies: Legal, Taxed and Regulated.
Also, is this just the old school tobacco lobby at work? I know SF is full of some dumb wannabe lefties (the sort that are all about Gay Marriage and not so much about anything that might result in their taxes going up like a living wage or affordable housing), but this is a bit much. It stinks of general corruption.
worried about their partying kids. And yeah, a lot of parents could give a crap if their 17 your old kid gets plastered because hey, they did to when they were that age, as long as they don't get an underage DUI.
as long as they don't apologize. If Trump's taught us anything its this: Never say your sorry. Ever. It's a sign of weakness, and your opponents will pounce.
Warren should have just said, "Who gives a fuck what I did in college. So I wanted to be an Indian fucking Princess. So the fuck what". And yes, she should have swore. Everybody would be so busy talking about a granny swearing they'd have forgotten everything else. Trump did the same thing but with racism and dog whistling. Nobody talks about the substantive effect of his policy because he's just so garsh darn mean
before Congress, but all anyone can talk about are dumb things she did in college 30 years ago. It's amazing how easily distracted voters are. Mix in a little voter suppression, some Gerrymandering and a dash of wedge issues and it's damn tough to get anything worthwhile done.
this is part of the broader "left wing media bias" narrative that the right wing has worked hard to establish.
For anyone who remembers what came out about MSNBC and Bernie after 2016, or pays attention to the coverage of him now vs the establishment candidates like Beto, Biden & Harris, or remembers when the media closed ranks to promote the Iraq War or the 2008 Bank Bailout you know the media's bias is hard right when it counts: economics.
Hell, the media was center-right on Gay Marriage until around 2014 or so. Go watch them grill Bernie on Medicare for All while giving Biden a pass on his attacks on Social Security. All this before Sinclair media bought out every local TV station.
And we shouldn't be surprised about the media's biases when it comes to the economy or the stuff that really matters. Look at who owns them. Always, always, always follow the money.
to systems people never upgrade. Seriously, it was for stuff like Point of Sale and cheap laptops. Folks don't upgrade those unless the system breaks, catches fire, burns to ashes and a dog sneezes on the ashes. If it's a cat they might still call in IT to fix it (smaller sneeze).
they're supposed to provide probable cause for a search warrant.
via humor that doesn't actually lampoon them, but makes them relatable. PDP isn't actively trying to do this, btw. If he was it'd be easier to spot him for what he's doing. Instead he's responding to whatever gets him attention and views.
Making fun of Nazis ala Monty Python is old hat. If PDP tried that folks would shrug and go watch Monty Python. If they wanted blue humor CK & Chapelle both do it better. So he just flies Nazi flags and waits for the views to roll in from the controversy. Meanwhile he's made plain Nazi iconography just a little more normalized in society at large. He's made it hard to tell the difference between "just doing it for the lulz" and actual Nazis. And he's given the actual Nazis cover, many of whom after the "Unit the Right" lobby used the same excuse of "the lulz" as PDP did.
There were never any actual rappers using their music to form gangs (there was a bunch of drug money laundering going on though) and there weren't any real Satanic cults using D&D to lure helpless victims. There _are_ Nazis using PDP and other YouTubers like him to recruit.
hopefully using our reasoning abilities instead of emotion or (worse) authority. But when you just throw you're hands up and say "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" you're not being a free speech warrior, you're just trying to absolve yourself of responsibility for your actions (or lack thereof).
if I paid more my car wouldn't be any safer. More of the fancy safety features are things like lane assist and automatic breaking. I can do both of those things without a computer telling me, and having them is likely to lull me into a false sense of security.
One of the most maddeningly dangerous drivers I've ever met drives modern Lexuses with all the bells and whistles. Gets a new one about every 3-5 years after he wrecks the old one. He's not any better off in the crashes because of the Lexus (even my 2014 Sentra has airbags up the wazoo) and he crashes just as often as he did before he had those features.
Finally, Airlines != Car Companies. The Airlines and plane manufactures are quasi-public companies. They have to be. If you're letting several tons of metal fly over cities 365 days a year you can't leave that up to private citizens. We just tried actually, and this is the result.
We're just lucky this didn't happen over a populated area. Keep this up and it will.
No.
even the cheapest car on the market right now has a raft of safety features. Once you get to the level of a Nissan Sentra or Toyota Corolla there's not much difference between that and a BMW. The advanced features of the BMW can easily be compensated for with more careful driving.
In this case it's more like if a Tesla's auto pilot engaged and sent you careening off a cliff.
on their ties to White Supremacy and Neo-Nazis. The Alt-Right has been using dog whistles to cosy up with those two groups since day 1 without taking any flack to speak of. It's both dangerous and disingenuous to allow that to go on.
What I'm saying is this: The Alt-Right are not your friends. They're a friendly face on the same Authoritarian arm of the right wing that's been around since the 20s. They exist specifically to legitimize and normalize something that was rightly recognized as horrific post WWII and the Civil Rights movement.
Now, you can find pages and pages of posts, documents and hours of video of their leadership talking about this, but you have to plow through a lot of crap to get to it. In the old days we had professional journalists doing that work. Nowadays it's YouTubers.
behind the scenes it's Reptile People all the way down.
since I've never been. I guess you could fly me there, fly me back, and then fly me back again. Seems counterproductive when you could just vote Bernie in the primary, Bernie in the General, vote a left wing Congress in (Senate _and_ House) and solve all these damn problems. I mean, we've known the solutions for years, but greed fucks (the Yuppies that grew into the Boomers) won't let us because, hey, they got theirs, fuck me (and maybe you, unless you're one of them), amiright?
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For those who don't want to be bothered watching the video (or can't stand Cult of Dusty, which I can't really blame you for), PDP had a large number of alt-right personalities he was following and after the New Zealand shooter he emptied his followers list.
PDP may or may not actually believe any of the things the alt-right does. But he absolutely uses the movement and it's fans to his advantage. The controversial things he's done have almost exclusively appealed to the alt-right.
Like a lot of YouTubers he's figured out that the alt-right is a powerful engine for increasing views and ad revenue. But feeding off that isn't a one way street. He's normalizing and legitimizing the worst aspects of that community. And not just him. Other YouTubers like Sargon of Arkad, JonTron and Ben Shapiro are doing the same. Go look up some videos from Contrapoints, Three Arrows and hbomberguy on the subject. They're far better than anything I could type.
There's an entire engine on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook dedicated to exploiting angry, bitter, jobless young men for ad revenue and Pateron donations. I'm bloody sick of it. It's dangerous as fuck. Eventually a real demagogue will come along and organize them into brown shirts.
has certain social responsibilities (note: social responsibilities, not legal ones). One of those is fostering a discourse and an environment that is overall a net positive.
I haven't watched PDP, but he's had a mess of nasty controversies around racial themes. Ones he was pretty obviously doing on purpose because, as the saying goes, there's no such thing as bad publicity. And he was right. The backlashes have all blow over and he's kept the dough rolling in. But at a cost. That cost is normalizing a certain form of behavior. When it's out in the open like that and nobody's getting censored (that's censored in the social sense, not the legal/governmental sense) it because acceptable.
That's sort of the problem. It's the old "boil a frog" analogy. Yeah, you can't really boil a frog, but it's easy to convince folks you can because it's a relatable thing for humans. The idea that you can get accustom to something awful or even deadly.
We've got too many examples of horrifying things being normalized bit by bit to ignore this. The world at large should call PDP on his racist bullshit whether he means it or not and send him packing. He's not starting an honest discussion of racial issues. He's just a rancid troll winding angry kids up and sending them off.
all but one. Several left wingers on YouTube went through the list before hand and found a ton of Alt-Right guys, including some really nasty ones. Look up a guy named Cult of Dusty on YouTube and he talks about some of the worst ones. Several white supremacists and extreme right wing folk were in there.
I don't think he himself is a white supremacist, but I also don't think he put any effort into avoiding them. For someone as visible as he is that's just bad all around.
This seems to be a point of contention, but the Israeli government is not the final end all, be all of Jewishness. I'll remind everybody of Trump's "Good people on both sides" comment and that he cut back on enforcement of anti-Hate and anti-Domestic Terrorism. He didn't do that for the sake of the Muslims.
The right does not support Jews or Israel, _Evangelicals_ support Israel because their reading of their holy books is that Jesus will take them to paradise when all the Jews are brought to Israel. Evangelicals aren't really right wing, but they will vote for the GOP because the GOP will let them do what they want as long as they vote for their tax cuts in return. Before the GOP figured this out the Evangelicals were buddy buddy with the left wing because they were working class people who wanted better pay, educations for their kids, safe work environments and clean air. They traded that in for concessions on social issues (Abortion, Israel, Prayer in Schools, etc). This kind of wedge issue creation is how American politics (and politics in General) work.
The "right" generally accepts all comers as long as you're willing to sign on for weak regulation, low taxes and few worker protections. This is why Fascists end up on the right here in America (instead of being ostracized by both left and right as the nut jobs they are). The same goes for Racists and literal Nazis. The American right will let anyone into their tent as long as you support their economic platform of low taxes and weak worker protection.
I was never a fan (not being a 13 year old girl when he broke) but somewhere along the line he pivoted to attracting the Alt-Right viewers and seemed to have gone off the deep end. Then again I was never a fan, maybe he always was like this. At any rate the fans he's attracting were already scary and that was before this and that mess in New Zealand.
the ones I know work the same hours as the Americans. Rather, it's about keeping wages down and about not having to pay to train. And not just the training the business does. Don't forget that the US has been slashing funding to education for decades. We couldn't get away with that if we didn't have a supply of trained people.
I mean, instead of banning them.
I think it's more likely that the entrenched tobacco companies are pushing this behind the scenes while they rev up their own e-cig products. I know for a fact they've attacked small tobacco producers before (a buddy of mine smokes a pipe and he's pretty pissed at recent regulations).
the idea is that e-cigs, being so new, could have health risks that nobody knows. Or that poor regulation of them might lead to contaminates that are worse for you then regular cigs or pot.
I still think it's a terrible idea, but I oppose prohibition across the board. Legal, taxed and regulated.
I've lost jobs to Canadian outsourcing because companies didn't want to deal with our screwed up healthcare system. One of the worst/best was when a US based insurance company moved it's call center operations to Canada.
That said, if this really is just H1-Bs shifting to Canada I find it really hard to care. I couldn't have gotten those jobs anyway and to be blunt I see very, very little of the benefits from immigration here in America. Without robust set of programs to take advantage of those economic wealth generated it's all just money going to the top. Even small businesses can be hurt since they're left to compete with companies that can hire engineers for less money (though it's debatable whether wage depression brought on by the influx of cheap labor offsets that).
Repeat after me kiddies: Legal, Taxed and Regulated.
Also, is this just the old school tobacco lobby at work? I know SF is full of some dumb wannabe lefties (the sort that are all about Gay Marriage and not so much about anything that might result in their taxes going up like a living wage or affordable housing), but this is a bit much. It stinks of general corruption.
worried about their partying kids. And yeah, a lot of parents could give a crap if their 17 your old kid gets plastered because hey, they did to when they were that age, as long as they don't get an underage DUI.
as long as they don't apologize. If Trump's taught us anything its this: Never say your sorry. Ever. It's a sign of weakness, and your opponents will pounce.
Warren should have just said, "Who gives a fuck what I did in college. So I wanted to be an Indian fucking Princess. So the fuck what". And yes, she should have swore. Everybody would be so busy talking about a granny swearing they'd have forgotten everything else. Trump did the same thing but with racism and dog whistling. Nobody talks about the substantive effect of his policy because he's just so garsh darn mean
Never apologize. Own it and own your opponents.
on how rich you are. If you make over $1mil/yr then the last round of decisions has been great. Everyone else? Not so much.
before Congress, but all anyone can talk about are dumb things she did in college 30 years ago. It's amazing how easily distracted voters are. Mix in a little voter suppression, some Gerrymandering and a dash of wedge issues and it's damn tough to get anything worthwhile done.