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PewCrypt Ransomware Locks Users' Files and Won't Offer a Decryption Key Until - and Unless - PewDiePie's YouTube Channel Beats T-Series To Hit 100M Subscribers (zdnet.com)

The battle between PewDiePie, currently the most subscribed channel on YouTube, and T-Series, an Indian music label, continues to have strange repercussions. In recent months, as T-Series closes in on the gap to beat PewDiePie for the crown of the most subscribers on YouTube, alleged supporters of PewDiePie, in an unusual show of love, have hacked Chromecasts and printers to persuade victims to subscribe to PewDiePie's channel. Now ZDNet reports about a second strain of ransomware that is linked to PewDiePie. From the report: A second one appeared in January, and this was actually a fully functional ransomware strain. Called PewCrypt, this ransomware was coded in Java, and it encrypted users' files in the "proper" way, with a method of recovering files at a later date. The catch --you couldn't buy a decryption key, but instead, victims had to wait until PewDiePie gained over 100 million followers before being allowed to decrypt any of the encrypted files. At the time of writing, PewDiePie had around 90 million fans, meaning any victim would be in for a long wait before they could regain access to any of their files. Making matters worse, if T-Series got to 100 million subscribers before PewDiePie, then PewCrypt would delete the user's encryption key for good, leaving users without a way to recover their data.

While the ransomware was put together as a joke, sadly, it did infect a few users, ZDNet has learned. Its author eventually realized the world of trouble he'd get into if any of those victims filed complaints with authorities, and released the ransomware's source code on GitHub, along with a command-line-based decryption tool.

237 comments

  1. Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. He (and the *ahem*certain people*cough* who artificially made him a big "star") has raised a whole generation of kids who are now literally *unbearable*, and who are growing up to become horrible human beings, even considering today's scum. I'm serious about wanting to execute this man, in a very slow and painful way.

    1. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Ok I give.

      WTF is a "Pewdepie"?

      I"m sure I'd better shout at kids to get off my lawn at this point....

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    2. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 1

      More of the parents fault that they are unbearable, not PewDiePie.

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    3. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      9-11 couldn't have been an inside job. Have you seen the government. It is fucking chaos. I am surprise that anything gets done.

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    4. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not just government. As I get older and understand more of the world, I'm repeatedly amazed that anything in this world works.

    5. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      WTF is a "Pewdepie"?

      Some youtube star. He's somehow gotten weird rabid fans that see promoting him as some strange game.

    6. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PewDiePie is this generation's Dustin "Screech" Diamond mixed with Gallagher.

    7. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not PewDiePie's fault. My kids don't watch his channel, still they are unbearable.

    8. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Imagine if they did. They would be even worst.

    9. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The no1 Youtube channel in terms of subscribers.

    10. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by cayenne8 · · Score: 0

      The no1 Youtube channel in terms of subscribers.

      Don't have time to search on YouTube for it right now...basically, what does he/she do that garners such a large following?

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    11. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunately, nobody has managed to figure that out. h

    12. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by fleabay · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Learn what a Google is and quit being a dumb acting smartass.

    13. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      what does he/she do that garners such a large following?

      He talks a lot of shit like a super jackhole. Apparently that's all it takes.

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    14. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You hear yourself there, Goebbels?

      I'll take legions of Fornite flossing faggots over your sick ass.

    15. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take me! Take me!

    16. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah well, with an audience that big(90 million) there are bound to be thousands upon thousands of whackos.

    17. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He's a Youtube star who is famous for being an empty-headed asshole.

      And by 'star', I mean a racist, talentless hack, similar to Kim Kardashian or Paris Hilton.

      And by 'famous', I mean that some people within the dysfunctional 'community' known as Youtube recognize his name.

      And by 'community', I mean a group of losers who clicked a button with his name by it.

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    18. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remove yourself, infidel! PewDiePie is the goldened-faced Nord who will have our people.

      Subscribe to PewDiePie!

    19. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PewDiePie does a better job than the government education camps.

    20. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Basically he's a talking asshole, but with the twist of making it all lÃok like a stretched vagina!

    21. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by dj245 · · Score: 1

      WTF is a "Pewdepie"?

      Everything I have learned about Pewdepie has been against my will. Consider yourself lucky.

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    22. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As I get older and understand more of the world, I've come to think maybe nothing does work. Then I have my meal, play some games, and try to forget about it. The path to nihilism is a dark one.

    23. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He covers YouTube news and memes, also sometimes regular news and streams gaming.

      The media companies hate him (he cuts into their views/profits), so a lot of fake drama gets stirred up by them, calling pewdiepie a Nazi and blaming him for the recent NZ mass shootings, etc.

      He's Swedish and lives in the UK, so he's really not swept up in the American PC culture.

      Watch an episode of "you laugh, you lose" or "pewnews" for yourself.

    24. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Can'tNot · · Score: 1

      Well it is now... there have been times that the government has been functional though, it's not like our millions of miles of roads, dams, bridges, and other infrastructure just appeared out of nothing. We're especially good at blowing things up, that's what we spend most of our money on.

    25. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by scottrocket · · Score: 1

      Famous for being famous, like the Kardashians, or Zsa Zsa Gabor, or...a lot of "celebrities"?

    26. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      News Media: Rabble rabble rabble! We lost our jobs! New Media's fault!

      The internet: Learn to code, jackasses.

    27. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When someone starts with "Actually" or "Honestly" you know it's bullshit.

      Trying to emphasis that your next statement is the real truth is just the tell of a bad liar.

    28. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Famous for being famous, like the Kardashians, or Zsa Zsa Gabor, or...a lot of "celebrities"?

      The only thing I know about him is that he paid people to make Nazi salutes and read off anti-Semitic statements. For that reason alone he sounds like a real asshole.

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    29. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Ok I give.

      WTF is a "Pewdepie"?

      I believe they are a popular beat combo, m'lud.

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    30. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      PewDiePie is this generation's Dustin "Screech" Diamond

      Er, who's Dustin "Screech" Diamond?

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    31. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Megane · · Score: 1

      He's the Millennial generation's Danny Bonaduce.

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    32. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your autocomplete jumped off a bridge, you would too. So what you allege your autocomplete knows is hardly an indicator of anything, except that you believe autocomplete actually means something.

    33. Re:Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by inking · · Score: 1

      He wouldn’t have 90 million subscribers if he was talentless. I don’t care for “don’t rape me piggy!!!” screams, but I also think Harry Potter is about as exciting as watching paint dry. Does not mean much.

    34. Re: Into the gaschamber with PewDiePie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The star of the previous generations' tv show?

  2. What the *bleep* happened to PDP by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was never a fan (not being a 13 year old girl when he broke) but somewhere along the line he pivoted to attracting the Alt-Right viewers and seemed to have gone off the deep end. Then again I was never a fan, maybe he always was like this. At any rate the fans he's attracting were already scary and that was before this and that mess in New Zealand.

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    1. Re:What the *bleep* happened to PDP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At some point, he did a stunt that contained some pretty anti-Semitic content, probably for shock/lulz value rather than anti-Jew hatred. But media outlets reported on that, most of his advertisers freaked, YouTube freaked, and PDP read the whole thing as a media conspiracy to shut him down because they were afraid of him.

      Alt-righters gravitated toward him because they've been in a similar position, though I've never heard of PDP openly embracing them.

      Not sure how PDP managed to make it back after that whole mess. I guess most of his audience didn't read too much into his stunt. But he's definitely no longer the golden boy of YouTube he used to be...

    2. Re:What the *bleep* happened to PDP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How dare that motherfucker not be a tolerant leftist? He must be purged for having political views that aren't the same as ours. Purged in blood!

      Sic Semper Soros.

    3. Re:What the *bleep* happened to PDP by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      My personal favourite of his alt-right credentials was when he wore the British home guard uniform, which is the uniform worn by British officers who's job was to warn and rescue people after Nazi bombing raids, after which your compatriots at mainstream media called him a nazi.

      It was almost as excellent as your desperate lying across this thread.

  3. That's funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Even funnier, I'm going to subscribe to T-Series now because of the retards that did this.

    1. Re:That's funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did this months ago when they were hacking printers. I have no interest in either one, but being obnoxious is not a motivator.

    2. Re:That's funny. by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      So because the creator of this ransomware is also a troll, you're going to say "fuck your data, my ego is more important" to the people who's data is locked until further notice... That's real human decency right there.

    3. Re:That's funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called not giving in to terrorism.

      PewDiePie fans are cunts.

    4. Re: That's funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't put your printer out on the internet, and update your shitty router.

  4. Now THATS a viral video! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure its the kind we want, but... whatevs!

  5. Format and reinstall by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 0

    No big loss.
    No need to support anyone who not funny and whose comedy is the lowest common denominator. Guess why children like him. They have no taste.

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    1. Re:Format and reinstall by GWXerog · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Could be worse, they could be watching late night television

    2. Re:Format and reinstall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could be worse, they could be watching late night television

      Or the early morning local news in Yakima, WA!

  6. Is there a way... by Travco · · Score: 1

    To get a negative subscription?

    1. Re: Is there a way... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aw are you triggered?

  7. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I am going to create ransomware tied to the removal of IWantMoreSpamPlease from slashdot. At what point should we hold IWantMoreSpamPlease responsible for my actions?

  8. Re:Curiosity by JBMcB · · Score: 2, Funny

    Perhaps I've missed it (and it's a good chance I have as I don't follow him) but I don't recall seeing where he's spoken out about the illegal activities being done in his name (hacking, encrypting, murder, etc)

    You've only scratched the surface. Armed robbery, kidnapping, counterfeiting, extortion, racketeering, stock manipulation, global financial manipulation, tanking currencies, falsifying documents, purposefully accelerating global climate change, drug dealing, redlining, gaslighting, forming destructive cults, cheating on tax returns, election manipulation, writing fraudulent yelp reviews, providing sub-prime mortgages, tearing off mattress tags, driving 1MPH over the speed limit, griefing, trolling, spawnkilling, defacing library books, writing in pen when the instructions say to use pencil...

    The crimes ne'er-do-wells commit in the name of PewDiePie are extensive and astonishing.

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  9. Re:You will never matter Kendall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But, you will never matter either. And if Kendall did kill himself, then what would you do? Can you face a life with your last crumb of meaning, gone? You'd have to follow him, wouldn't you? You, too, would be forced to hurl yourself down into hell, to be with Kendall, the only thing left in the universe that gives your existence a smidgeon of purpose.

    Or you could get there before him. To be there, waiting, as he finally thinks that at last he is free from the terrible world with you in it... only to find himself trapped for eternity there in hell with you, as you mock and berate him, forever. That is a worthy goal, a man's goal. Yes, you must be there first, to lie in wait for your rightful prey.

    Do it. Die first. It will be glorious.

  10. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't follow this idiot either, but I did hear he was disturbed that New Zealand nutcase used his name in the mass shooting.

    I don't know what "holding him responsible" means, and I disagree with all the weird cancel-culture, and need for weird purity the kids all seem to want these days.

    Frankly I'd rather people just ignore celebrities rather than either turn them into angels or devils. Turning them into one or the other just increases the problem of celebrity. How about just #EndCelebrity? The real problem is the lust for more people to care about you, not the people themselves.

  11. Stay edgy, ruin your future, blame someone else. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What could possibly go wrong?

  12. Re:Curiosity by BringsApples · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At what point, if any, do we start holding PDP responsible for the actions of his fans?

    Blame someone for the actions of others...? Should we blame Tide for the idiots that ate their Tide-pods?

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  13. Re:Curiosity by dargaud · · Score: 0

    Yup, this is the kind of shit that should get him booted off the service. Will serve as a warning for the next set of morons.

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  14. No he did not by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have seen on Twitter recently that PewDiePie is "alt-right", but as is usual with anything labeled "alt-right" that is Fake News.

    What the hell have you seen that would make him alt-right? I don't watch his videos much but in the few I have seen there is zero political content of any kind. He does meme reviews for crying out loud!

    I am pretty sure he has irked some people, these days anyone who is mad at you for anything simply labels you "alt-right". Don't propagate slander and lies.

    P.S. if you don't realize the NZ shooter simply used his name to try as a kind of trolling, you've not been paying attention to what happened there.

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    1. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I am pretty sure he has irked some people, these days anyone who is mad at you for anything simply labels you "alt-right". Don't propagate slander and lies.

      That is exactly what happened. SJWs happened, and they decided to attack PewDiePie for ... reasons. I can't even remember why, I think he made some joke video that they decided was anti-Semitic for reasons that made no sense, and then, because the left outrage machine can never back down even when it's been proven they're complaining about nothing, they decided to declare that PewDiePie must therefore be alt-right. Despite the fact that he's not even American and does nothing related to American politics. And, yes, I know the phenomenon of "alt-right" isn't limited to America, but most of the complaints against PewDiePie treat him like he's actively campaigning for Trump, which makes absolutely no sense.

      And, yes, the NZ thing was actively trolling SJWs because SJWs hate PewDiePie at this point because they just hate anyone who is successful who doesn't bow to their crazy beliefs. Even those who would otherwise be on the left.

    2. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have to understand that if your form of trolling involves murder, you're not trolling anymore.

    3. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He wore an allied WW2 uniform. Retards claimed he was a nazi because of that.
      Alt right thought it was funny and decided to support him.

    4. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He wore an allied WW2 uniform. Retards claimed he was a nazi because of that.
      Alt right thought it was funny and decided to support him.

      By that logic, to not be labeled a Nazi, he would have to have worn a Nazi uniform instead. SS pins on the collar.

    5. Re:No he did not by Tailhook · · Score: 2, Informative

      What the hell have you seen that would make him alt-right?

      It's objectively easy to find. In the first 60 seconds of the latest PewDiePie video; "Shane vs Cat," which appeared two hours ago there is a graphic of the "NPC Wojak" meme. There is simply no way a meme lord like PewDiePie doesn't know that symbol is hated by SJW groupthinkers. This appears in the context of a "meme review" where he riffs on J.K. Rowling and the history of her various sops to 'progressive inclusivity.'

      Personally I don't believe PewDiePie is particularly "Alt Right." He makes his living being somewhat edgy and irreverent and since the SJW/progressive worldview completely dominates every last square inch of everything, everywhere people like him aren't left with much to do unless they're saying things SJWs/progressives don't want to hear. Today that's all it takes to be branded "Alt Right."

      Maybe he is actually going that way. What are you supposed to do when you find yourself threatened with platforming as an antisemite by a prevailing mentality that can find no fault with Ilhan Omar or Al Sharpton?

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    6. Re:No he did not by AbRASiON · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This poster is correct.

      PDP, is quite harmless, but the media have it in for him since he's a nice big target and they hate steamers/ bloggers generally because they're eating the lunch of traditional gaming media.

      PewDiePie encompass typical childish and nerds humour, taking the piss and messing around. There's very very little bad stuff here.

      Man did the sjw types get a hard on for him and will not drop it. It's foolishness like this, when they're so blatantly wrong which actually weakens their cause as people start to question "if they're wrong about PDP, who else are they misrepresentating?"

      Ultimately resulting in genuine bad actors getting less need criticism and or general distrust of the gaming and eventually, regular media.

    7. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...I think he made some joke video that they decided was anti-Semitic for reasons that made no sense..."

      Yeah, you really have to apply some serious mental gymnastics to think that hiring 2 Indian guys to hold up a sign that says "Death to all Jews" is anti-Semitic.

    8. Re:No he did not by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      There is simply no way a meme lord like PewDiePie doesn't know that symbol is hated by SJW groupthinkers.

      Just because he wants to make fun of extremists bigots doesn't make him alt right.

    9. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By that type of illogic, that guy who made the video showing the "pedophile wormhole" on YouTube is a pedophile.

      He made that video to show how there was absolutely no moderation on Fiverr. And succeeded. It wasn't anti-Semitic, the whole point was that no one was paying attention and thought that maybe such a message wasn't worth showing. It was literally the opposite.

    10. Re: No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you don't watch his videos much, so we should trust your expertise on PewDiePie?

      Huh.

      Too bad the rest of us can notice his advocacy for racial persecution and right-wing authoritarianism.

    11. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More delusional alt right alt fact bullshit from kendoll, though in all fairness a doll is far smarter than fucktard kendoll.

    12. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't seen him misrepresented. People say "he's a dick", and you apparently agree. Reasonable people may differ on how much of a dick he is and whether or not it's worthwhile to watch his videos anyway.

      GP's implicit question still stands: has he, in fact, spoken out on the subject? Because most people do, in similar circumstances. Heck, even Donald Trump took steps to disassociate himself from the New Zealand shooter.

    13. Re:No he did not by rtb61 · · Score: 0

      The weirdness of it all, it is a story about itself, nothing but a massive t roll to suck in the SJWs to make fools of themselves. Entirely meaningless beyond that, seriously people, just a t roll. No one cares who gets the most subscribers, they made it up to t roll SJWs and the SJWs bought into it and dragged the idiots for corporate main stream media right into it, t roll success and it is all entirely bullshit.

      This story is nothing but a massive t roll, the more the foolish buy into the more laughs the trolls have and especially funny as there was nothing really funny in it and it was all specifically and purposefully about NOTHING, that is the troll, the SJWs and corporate main stream media are being t rolled by nothing, there is no there, 'there'. SJWs are being t rolled by nothing, there is no story, there is no ideology, there is no politics, there is nothing but an empty troll.

      Good on the Hindi for joining in, well at least the ones who know it is all a troll, there are bound to be a whole bunch blithely following on, sucked into the by t roll. It is a top notch t roll though, well done to the guys and gals involved ;D (T roll /. hates the word apparently).

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    14. Re:No he did not by junglee_iitk · · Score: 1

      Nah! It is way simpler than that. Alt-right is, by name, not the traditional right. So from a far-left perspective, anything that is not traditional right is alt-right. This enables them to invariably call centrists "alt-right".

      Couple this with traditional journalism becoming unprofitable in the new tech-age, mainstream media is hell-bent on getting more clickbait by promoting extremism - wether you are on the right or on the left.

      If OP doesn't were a avid reader of breitbart or fox news he would have considered centrists "left" too.

    15. Re:No he did not by Tom · · Score: 2

      Man did the sjw types get a hard on for him and will not drop it. It's foolishness like this, when they're so blatantly wrong which actually weakens their cause as people start to question "if they're wrong about PDP, who else are they misrepresentating?"

      Absolutely everything. That was an easy question. Any other questions?

      Feminism and astrology have multiple things in common. One of them is that they started with a general good idea ("women should be equal" or "stars are pretty interesting") and ended up in in the land of total nonsense.

      PewDiePie encompass typical childish and nerds humour, taking the piss and messing around. There's very very little bad stuff here.

      Except, again, by those who took the harmless basic idea and then went with it until they were way over the cliff.

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    16. Re:No he did not by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0, Troll

      "Harmless" but that guy who murdered 50 people in Christchurch last week did tell people to subscribe to him on his live stream right before doing it... Because the far right uses people like PewDiePie to get people interested in their ideas even if only as a joke or way to rebel.

      This does nicely illustrate the strange doublethink going on right now regarding people like PDP. On the one hand they are harmless, what they say has no effect and is just messing around. On the other hand freedom of speech is absolutely vital because speech is a powerful tool and the most fundamental way we communicate ideas and influence others.

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    17. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose that was intended as a sarcastic joke - but it conceals a lot of stupid.

      The guy was insane. You know.... by definition, insane. People who go around committing mass murder are generally in that category.

      But beyond that we have his "manifesto". The question is, what to make of it? Well, if you look at the stuff he writes and says, you could cherry pick a few things and try to tie him around your political enemies' necks. And that surely seems to be where loads of people's motivations lie.

      But that requires a facile reading of selected quotes by weak-minded folks practicing groupthink. If you actually read the stuff he's clearly a super-troll, trolling for the sake of trolling. He says all sorts of things that are meant to tweak people's noses, of all political stripes.

      We don't even know if his true motives were about religion, immigration, Islamic fundamentalism, terrorism, shariah law.... no idea. We just know that he's a sick asshole who killed a bunch of people at mosques.

      Beyond that, he's being used by a talisman by everyone from anti-gun activists to gun-rights activists, by global warming deniers and climate change activists, by alt-right sympathizers and antifa agitators... all saying "see, this is what those people are like!"

      In other words, Troll.

    18. Re:No he did not by Cytotoxic · · Score: 1

      I think his point was that from the SJW crowd, anything other than fealty to SJW values, mores and speech codes is definitionally alt-right.

      So poking fun at PC culture is alt-right. Even if you are a democratic socialist from a democratic socialist country. Like all who's primary motivation in life is political affiliation, they will brook no dissent.

      Therefore, if you are of the "SJW groupthinkers" Highdude702 is describing, then yes, "just because he wants to make fun of extremists bigots" does in fact make him alt-right.

      Tow that party lion, or you are the enemy of the people.

    19. Re:No he did not by AbRASiON · · Score: 0

      " but that guy who murdered 50 people in Christchurch last week did tell people to subscribe to him on his live stream right before doing it..."

      Hitler also drank water, walked on two feet and breathed oxygen. Rumour has it, he even loved his mother.

      Your argument is embarrassing, you should be embarrassed. Stop drinking the cool aid and think for yourself, please try common sense.

    20. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SJWs happened, and they decided to attack PewDiePie for ... reasons. I can't even remember why.

      He had some folks hold up a sign that read "death to all jews".

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGPqD3Pnl2o

      11:28

      Yes, he meant it as a joke. Yes, he is responsible if this attracted the "wrong" crowd.

    21. Re:No he did not by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      You are suggesting that it was mere coincidence, even though he was clearly influenced by YouTube videos (even titled his manifesto after a Lauren Southern video which he also cited) and chose to mention it right before the terror attack?

      Well, don't worry, I'm sure he will confirm it for us during the trial.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    22. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He also called himself an "ecco-warrior" and ranted against global warming deniers.

      He claimed that "The person who has inspired me, above all, is Candace Owens".

      Examine the possibility that you got trolled by a crazy dude.

    23. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pewdiepie was in no way responsible for the massacre. he never endorsed such actions or anything even close

      giant double standard. guy who shot reagan was obssesed with taxi driver. where the makers of that movie responsible?

    24. Re:No he did not by penandpaper · · Score: 0

      but that guy who murdered 50 people in Christchurch last week did tell people to subscribe to him on his live stream right before doing it

      Did you know that the NZ terrorist did that on purpose for useful idiots to parade that talking point? He knew that by just mentioning PDP the useful tools on the internet would point the finger at PDP and fan the flames of the culture war. He understood the internet and how the media would report things. He wanted people to attack PDP because he wanted PDP youtube community to fight with everyone else.

      How does it feel to be doing exactly what the NZ killer wanted?

    25. Re:No he did not by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      This is another contradictory bit of doublethink. Can't talk about PDP flirting with the far right because that's what they want. On the other hand, the way to defeat the far right is to win the argument by debating their ideas directly and preserving free speech.

      Anyway, I don't suppose you can actually cite something he said that makes what you claim seem believable, can you?

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    26. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He also put the Navy Seal copypasta in his manifesto.

    27. Re:No he did not by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      I guess it's a good thing I don't even like people then. O.o

    28. Re: No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So if I donate to the Make a Wish Foundation, are they then responsible when I murder your dog?

    29. Re:No he did not by penandpaper · · Score: 1

      You can read his manifesto. I am not going to link to it here. I am sure you have the ability to find it. I read it once and that was enough for me. I do not want to waste any more time looking for it just so you can ignore it and still act in a way the killer wanted by pointing the finger at people he named dropped to cause division.

      " flirting with the far right"
      making jokes are bad mmmkay. Was Monty Python flirting with the far right as well? Everything is "far right" when you are an extreme leftist.

      "defeat the far right is to win the argument by debating their ideas directly and preserving free speech."

      Yes, free speech is paramount and it's kinda sad that NZ and others like you think that censorship is the answer. When has censorship worked?

      Fundamentally PDP is not "flirting with far right" for making edgy jokes or "alt lite" for reviewing Jordan Petersons book. When everything is racist nothing is. The boy who cried racist becomes an annoyance even if there might be a racist this time.

    30. Re:No he did not by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Monty Python was mocking the far right, not flirting with it. They didn't promote people on the far right like PDP did.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    31. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is another contradictory bit of doublethink.

      Drink! Amimojo insists there's a doublethink in other people...

      Can't talk about PDP

      ...that relies on a strawman of his invention (GP didn't say you can't "talk about PDP")

      PDP flirting with the far right

      Drink! Amimojo slides in an accusation as if it's an agreed fact, when it's one of the things being contested

      Extra drink that this is the same way certain right wing pundits argue (e.g Ben Shapiro, in a debate over abortion, would slip in the term "killing babies" when talking about something else, so as to make it seem like it's already agreed that abortion = killing babies)

      Yet another drink that the very thread he's in is him talking about PDP, thus proving him wrong that you can't talk about it. People are just disagreeing with him, but Amimojo treats that disagreement as "can't talk about it"

      the way to defeat the far right is to win the argument by debating their ideas directly and preserving free speech.

      Drink! Amimojo says something that he thinks creates a contradiction, when in fact it doesn't (hint: the key is you have to WIN the arguments; when people aren't swayed and disagree, that's not them saying you "can't talk about it", that's just you not winning the argument)

      Anyway, I don't suppose you can actually cite something he said that makes what you claim seem believable, can you?

      Drink! Amimojo shifts the burden of proof when he's the one making the bigger claim (e.g that PDP is guilty of... being liked by the far right? Because apparently we're responsible for the actions of other people? Well, I guess that means Amimojo is guilty too, since according to him he's got a fan following of triggered far right snowflakes, downvoting his posts and such)

    32. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He specifically stated in the manifesto that his attack was carefully choreographed to incite maximum reaction. He didn't attack a mosque because he specifically hates islamic people (though he probably does), he did it because it would cause chaos. He didn't use guns because they were the most effective for killing, he used them because people fear them more than bombs (even though bombs are more effective at getting maximum casualties in an attack) and because he could make his stream more personal by using them. He didn't say "subscribe to pewdiepie" because he reveres the guy, he did it because it would gain him attention. It would make people talk about it, and it would make pewdiepie have to defend himself, which would give him mindshare in everyone who watches pewdiepie. He didn't meme literally the entire time for no reason. He did it for marketing. He played an act. It surely came easy, because he's definitely a lifelong image board user, but he knew what he was doing. He was fully cognizant of every action he took.

      The NZ killer's end game wasn't to kill a bunch of random islamic people. It was destabilization. And yes, you're playing right into his hand, you goddamn idiot. Go read the manifesto if you don't believe me.

      Captcha: malice

    33. Re:No he did not by penandpaper · · Score: 1

      Oh, so you are the comedy and joke police. Whatever you think must be true.

    34. Re:No he did not by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Oh, so only the police are allowed be have an opinion? Opinions are oppression now?

      You really are very silly.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    35. Re:No he did not by Tailhook · · Score: 1

      who for some reason selectively gets all triggered by swastikas and people calling for genocide

      FTFY. PewDiePie's mistake was that he hadn't accrued sufficient progressive grievance monger credentials prior to exhibiting his supposed antisemitism. Competent antisemites have no difficulty once they've properly immunized themselves.

      Rowling doesn't play to the progressive crowd, she trolls homophobes by making hot gay sex canon in Harry Potter.

      It's transparent pandering and it deserves all the ridicule anyone cares to inflict. Besides, what's wrong with homophobia if indulging such sensitivities interfere with displacing deplorables?

      --
      Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
    36. Re:No he did not by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Amijojo is allergic to common sense.

    37. Re:No he did not by penandpaper · · Score: 1

      Oi. You got a license for that opinion.

    38. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Monty Python was mocking the far right, not flirting with it.

      Drink! Amimojo throws out subjective labels (mocking vs flirting) without proper definition!

      (reminds me of how he accuses other people using terms like "SJW" without a clear definition)

      They didn't promote people on the far right like PDP did.

      Drink! Amimojo infers motivation out of results!

      This, btw, is also used by Jordan Peterson - another right wing sweetheart. He made some argument that maybe Hitler wasn't a racist if you look at the results of his actions (he made a lot of mistakes and made Germany lose! Maybe he MEANT to make Germany lose!)

      I'm not kidding. Here's a video explaining it
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    39. Re: No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, he already addressed it.

      He's also asked his fans multiple times over the last 6 months or so to not do anything illegal to support him.

      You seem to know so much, and yet so little at the same time. Perhaps you write for the WSJ??

    40. Re:No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's almost as if people like you don't comprehend that you're just being trolled by these fuckers.

    41. Re: No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not the point Jordan Peterson was making at all.

      He was saying if you don't know a person's motives, look to their actions and the results of those actions.

      Hitler could have won the war had he focused on it more than exterminating the Jews. How you make the leap to him not being such a bad guy from that is beyond retarded to me.

    42. Re:No he did not by AbRASiON · · Score: 0

      Yep, these are the same people convinced there's Russians in their toasters.

    43. Re: No he did not by Evtim · · Score: 1

      Great idea!

      When will the ban on religion be enforced?

    44. Re: No he did not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not the point Jordan Peterson was making at all.

      LOL, the link I provided per-emptively addressed people like you. No, it's not taken out of context. The video showed him saying it.

      He was saying if you don't know a person's motives, look to their actions and the results of those actions.

      ...and infer the motivation, which is what I said, and what the video said.

      "if you can't figure out what someone is doing, or why, look at the outcome, and infer the motivation"

      It's in the video. Go watch it.

      How you make the leap to him not being such a bad guy

      Er...I didn't say he wasn't such a bad guy (neither did the linked video btw)

      Not only do you need to watch the video, you need to read my post again and actually comprehend it. No offense, but you're in no position to tell other people that they're taking things out of context.

  15. Time to give up by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    It's not the loonies killing in the name of religion. It's not the fact that people are willing to do long term damage to the public, the environment, or even themselves in the search for short term gains.

    It's shit like this that makes me say sod it. Let the meerkats have a go. Or squid, they're pretty smart.

    --
    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  16. Blackmail and extortion are quite illegal by mark-t · · Score: 1, Insightful

    And using Youtube as a platform for payment doesn't change that.... I'd be surprised if this doesn't violate Youtube's TOS, and they can suspend or even terminate the account.

    1. Re:Blackmail and extortion are quite illegal by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

      Just reset all the subscriptions on both parties, 'we could not determine which ones were blackmailed or automated into subscribing'.

    2. Re:Blackmail and extortion are quite illegal by dslauson · · Score: 2

      Right. Except that this did not come from directly PewDiePie or his "organization". Nor is it endorsed by him, as far as I know. This is apparently just some overzealous fans of his, who are jackasses. That last part of that sentence may have been redundant.

    3. Re: Blackmail and extortion are quite illegal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am going to paint the name pewdiepie in huge letters all over your house until I get 100 million views. If report me to authorities I will tell everyone there are naked women and free booze at your house. Better start clicking before I think of something else.

    4. Re: Blackmail and extortion are quite illegal by anarcobra · · Score: 1

      That just proves that you are crazy.

  17. Re:Curiosity by burtosis · · Score: 1

    I'll be willing to hold pewdiepie responsible for his fans in trade of holding trump accountable for his fans (MAGA bomber, coast guard but job, new zeland shooter, etc...)

  18. Crazy Events by Jzanu · · Score: 0

    Whether responsible originally or not, this character now is liable. Every firm damaged by this should sue him personally. This whole affair is absolutely crazy and shows the problem with new media advertising. Funding those sources that collect attention as a means to spread your own message doesn't work anymore. Considering views and clicks as expressions of commercial intent and rewarding whatever mechanism produces them is broken. There is no connection between purchases and the actions of a horde of children at computers, not even what was used by old toy commercials on broadcast tv. Every avenue open means the avenues are in the worst degenerative competition to outrage constantly to produce views and clicks while disavowing all responsibility. The world doesn't work like that though, there are avenues for recompense.

    1. Re:Crazy Events by cdsparrow · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, someone trying to promote the other guy could just do stuff like this to 'help' PDP and get him banned. If anything, at this point, youtube should suspend them both, put em in timeout and let them think about things for a month.

    2. Re:Crazy Events by Jzanu · · Score: 1

      T-series is a decades old Indian music producer, a real business. Their youtube channel hosts thing that they own the rights to, so there is little legal mechanism for that treatment. Besides, the illusion of fairness isn't justice, in this case it is this character driving his fans to support him in a game that he created. That makes him responsible.

    3. Re:Crazy Events by anarcobra · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure he is not liable. Just like movies are not liable for people killing people, or rockstar is not liable for people killing hookers.

    4. Re:Crazy Events by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      are you high on Chromosomes? pewdiepie is not liable because some random malware author made a virus.

      --
      Snowden and Manning are heroes.
    5. Re:Crazy Events by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      PewDiePie is a decade old game streamer/video short maker, a real business. Their youtube channel hosts things that they own the rights to, so there is little legal mechanism for that treatment. Besides, the illusion of fairness isn't justice, in this case it is this character driving his foes to shame him in a game that they created. That makes you responsible.

    6. Re:Crazy Events by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      idiot

    7. Re:Crazy Events by Cytotoxic · · Score: 1

      I was trying to decide if that was a parody.

      It isn't really written in a heightened parody style... but does anyone really think like that? And do they have Slashdot accounts, where we all believe that "information wants to be free" and wear T-Shirts with the RSA code to protest the declaration of that code as a "munition"?

      Surely nobody who has been posting on slashdot for 20 years would ever seriously entertain those thoughts, beyond parody... right?

    8. Re:Crazy Events by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Nice argument! You showed me!

    9. Re:Crazy Events by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Seriously hard to tell these days.

  19. Re: Time to be an hero by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then kill yours already.

  20. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pretty sure tide has an array of warnings not to eat any of their products.

  21. Re:Curiosity by cdsparrow · · Score: 1

    Let's just hope none of his fans is a psychopathic biochemist... 'When his hits 100mil subscribers, you can have the antidote, until then bleed from all orifices!'

  22. Re: Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's why you need to get your title sequence right. If it's not exactly right in the very first few minutes your stuff won't get any views, but I guess I didn't tell you anything you didn't already know quasi-troll. Keep it in your renderer

  23. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And what did he personally do?

    Maybe I could create ransomware that does not decrypt files until channel I dislike gets millions of subscribers? Then that channel would be booted off the service.

    I have watched a couple of his videos, didn't find them interesting, so I don't watch his videos anymore, so his channel getting dropped by youtube would no affect me, but it's not like he should be held responsible for the actions of every idiot.

  24. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You forgot jaywalking.

  25. Kill it with fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have no idea WTF a pew-die-pie is -- something to do with laser pistols and dessert? -- but I am getting really sick of seeing references to subscribing to it. Quick drawing attention to it and it'll probably wither away.

  26. What's so great about THIS malware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    At the time of writing, PewDiePie had around 90 million fans, meaning any victim would be in for a long wait before they could regain access to any of their files.

    If you can't take the heat, then don't sudo apt-get install malware and type your password in the kitchen. I can abstain from making the effort to install malware much faster than I can watch even one video, much less ten million of them.

    I fucking swear, every single time Slashdot covers malware, the editors and authors always take the position that users should install malware before they think about whether it's a good idea or not, rather than after. Life pro tip: think about whether you really want the malware, then if and only if you're sure you want the malware, should you install it. If it doesn't sounds like something you want, just don't do it. Why would you want to encrypt all your files with an unknown key, where you're not even allowed to decrypt until after you pay or someone else does something? WTF could you possibly get out of that?!

  27. Re:Curiosity by Rockoon · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You nailed it. The people going after PewDiePie are the same people going after Trump.

    So, over half the people think its a witch hunt, because... well... yeah..

    --
    "His name was James Damore."
  28. Racists gonna race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Shit troll is shitty. News at fucking 11. What the fuck is wrong with you?

    1. Re:Racists gonna race by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Good argument, you've almost win me over. Got anything else to say?

  29. We need baby powder STAT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh you poor wittle snowflake. The comedians make fun of your wittle weader and you need your diapy changed.

    In case you didn't know, no one is screaming for people to subscribe to Colbert or one of the Jimmys before they go killing people. You're seriously deranged.

    1. Re:We need baby powder STAT! by anarcobra · · Score: 2

      Blaming pewdiepie for killings is the same retardation Jack Thompson was doing trying to blame GTA and other games for school shooters. People are responsible for their own actions.

    2. Re:We need baby powder STAT! by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Oh no, you're mistaken. There is a group of people who feel that individuals are responsible for actions of somebody else, whom they don't even know.

    3. Re:We need baby powder STAT! by Cytotoxic · · Score: 1

      Apparently quite a few of them have taken to posting on Slashdot.

      Oh, how my Slashdot has fallen.

      Once upon a time, free speech was the be-all end-all value of the Slashdot crowd. Now we can't even get a decent technical discussion going on a nerd site, let alone agree that people who disagree with us should be allowed to publish their ideas.

    4. Re:We need baby powder STAT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are right, people have no responsibilities for the people that listen to them.

      When the Reagan administration authorized Iran-Contra, they were not responsible for those people that actually carried it out.

      Jeez, take some responsibility for your own actions people.

    5. Re:We need baby powder STAT! by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Yes, I miss the days of the early 2000's when I first started reading slashdot. I used to learn a lot of shit in the comment section. Now I just learn what the extremists refer to their political foe by this month.

  30. Re:Curiosity by Patent+Lover · · Score: 1

    I ate one of those Tide Pods you insensitive clod!

  31. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What is it with Libtards and their endless hunger to censor anyone who disagrees with them? When you have to blame them for the actions of their fans, you're desperate and pathetic. When will Slashdot finally take action and ban dargaud because of his stupidity? It's only fair.

  32. Re:Curiosity by pslytely+psycho · · Score: 2

    #IWantMoreSpamPlease

    Isn't that the official hashtag for Hawaii?

    https://www.thehawaiiplan.com/why-do-hawaiians-love-spam/

    --
    Donald Trump, on a crusade to make Nixon look respectable
  33. Re:Kill the nazi idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll make sure the Nazi idiot is taken care of. What's your address?

  34. Re:Curiosity by J053 · · Score: 1

    Only if fried with shoyu and onions, or in a musubi.

  35. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, but the US is retarded.
    How is he responsible for crazy people?

  36. Re:Kill the nazi idiot by anarcobra · · Score: 1

    Pretty sure calling for someone to be killed is more illegal (and immoral for that matter) than anything he did.

  37. Get in here 9yr old Army by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    He literally burned a paper model of Trump in effigy. This makes him "alt-right"?

    He made some joke videos akin to the guy who's dog raised its paw at a Hitler video. This was in response to continued media labelling him as Nazi / Racist / Alt-Right. So he agreed and amplified in a harmless trolling way. He disavowed the claims then sarcastically ended the vid with a brief clip of him wearing a military uniform and nodding to a random Hitler rant (which was about bankers). This type of response is known as "agree and amplify" or "reductio ad absurdum", but the left ran with the "See! he's really a Nazi!"

    -----

    Now, that was a discussion for the normies. Bros, we know the truth. Disney is full of pedos. Pewds had his eyes opened to this while they courted him as a personality. So he destroyed his reputation on purpose rather than sell his soul to the devil: We all know to get famous in Hollywood or music industry you have to let them video you killing and/or raping a kid. Pewds became redpilled. The media lashout is because the pedocracy is against him... and also, because Hitler is Pewdiepie.

  38. Re:More evidence he's not on the right... by DRJlaw · · Score: 1

    True but that would make him a Democrat (see: Trump and Golan heights for the opposite of an anti-semite).

    Did David Duke switch parties? *checks* Nope. Still a republican.

    Almost the entire right support Israel and jews generally.

    "Almost" meaning forget about Charlottesville and "Jews will not replace us," activities held by "very fine people" according to Trump.

  39. Re:Curiosity by dissy · · Score: 2

    At what point, if any, do we start holding PDP responsible for the actions of his fans?

    So if I state that I am your biggest fan, you'll take the fall with the authorities for anything bad I do?
    Sweet! I've always wanted a willing scapegoat. I should go make a naughty todo list...

  40. Re:More evidence he's not on the right... by DRJlaw · · Score: 1

    see: Trump and Golan heights for the opposite of an anti-semite

    Just one act and you forget Trump's not-so-in-the-past antisemitism.

    See the Times of Israel for the embodiment of an anti-semite.

  41. Re:Curiosity by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Yup, this is the kind of shit that should get him booted off the service.

    It should not, and will not. Like all ad-supported online services, all YouTube cares about is views. If he's not actually committing a crime himself, he gets to stay.

    If he endorses this kind of activity, he might get booted. But not just for it happening.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  42. Israel != Jewish by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    This seems to be a point of contention, but the Israeli government is not the final end all, be all of Jewishness. I'll remind everybody of Trump's "Good people on both sides" comment and that he cut back on enforcement of anti-Hate and anti-Domestic Terrorism. He didn't do that for the sake of the Muslims.

    The right does not support Jews or Israel, _Evangelicals_ support Israel because their reading of their holy books is that Jesus will take them to paradise when all the Jews are brought to Israel. Evangelicals aren't really right wing, but they will vote for the GOP because the GOP will let them do what they want as long as they vote for their tax cuts in return. Before the GOP figured this out the Evangelicals were buddy buddy with the left wing because they were working class people who wanted better pay, educations for their kids, safe work environments and clean air. They traded that in for concessions on social issues (Abortion, Israel, Prayer in Schools, etc). This kind of wedge issue creation is how American politics (and politics in General) work.

    The "right" generally accepts all comers as long as you're willing to sign on for weak regulation, low taxes and few worker protections. This is why Fascists end up on the right here in America (instead of being ostracized by both left and right as the nut jobs they are). The same goes for Racists and literal Nazis. The American right will let anyone into their tent as long as you support their economic platform of low taxes and weak worker protection.

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    1. Re: Israel != Jewish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Literal Nazis? Like people actually part of the party from the 1930s? You do realise that got disbanded in 1945 right? It's not possible for someone to be one anymore. Maybe you meant to at 'neo nazis'.

  43. Re:Curiosity by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    Don't forget about bernie while you're at it.

  44. Re:Curiosity by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 1

    If I don't decry what you are doing, then perhaps.
    That's the point I'm trying to make that seems to be getting lost in the shuffle.

    Although to be perfectly amusing, PDP himself should get the encryption virus...

    --
    So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds.
  45. Re:More evidence he's not on the right... by iwbcman · · Score: 1

    You seem to be confusing support for Zionism with whether or not one is anti-Semitic.

    One can be opposed to Zionism without being anti-semitic, and I imagine, if albeit unlikely, that even the converse is true.

    You of course are not alone in this but most Jewish Americans are not die hard supporters of Zionism unlike right-wing Christians, Trump included.

    sarcasm on

    Yeah, I mean really, what were people thinking- those glatzkoepfig jack-booted thugs wearing Nazi tattoes in Charlottesville were like most definitely all liberal DNC supporters.

    sarcasm off

  46. Re:You will never matter Kendall by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    Fucking +2.

  47. Re: More evidence he's not on the right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To the contrary,by involving the US in the Golan Heights, Trump is attacking the principles of national sovereignty and instigating a conflict that will endanger the inhabitants of the Middle East.

    Not to mention, encourage Canada and Mexico to annex formerly American territory by force.

  48. Re:KewKieKie by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    He probably has no part or knowledge in it, but if he saw your comment I'm sure he would try to find out who was doing it.. To support them obviously.

  49. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    arson, kidnapping, theft, grievous wounding, possession of unlawful atomic weapons, taking and driving away, conspiracy to overthrow the government, coveting thy neighbour's ox, graverobbing, torture, criminal libel, blackmail, polluting the environment, shoplifting, 714 separate driving offenses, forging sacred relics, transmuting base metal into gold, genocide, spitting, and thirty-two offenses so unusual and horrible they do not have names.

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  50. Re:Curiosity by Falos · · Score: 1

    >spawnkilling

    Public floggings. Anything less is inconsumerate.

  51. Re:Curiosity by Falos · · Score: 1

    Smuggling, forgery, sailing under false colours, looting, poaching, brigandage, depravity, vandalism, impersonating a Royal Navy and other British and Spanish officers and a Clergyman, arson, kidnapping, piracy in the Caribbean Sea, perjury, theft and ransacking a rum shipment.

  52. PDP also just removed 500 of his twitter follows by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    all but one. Several left wingers on YouTube went through the list before hand and found a ton of Alt-Right guys, including some really nasty ones. Look up a guy named Cult of Dusty on YouTube and he talks about some of the worst ones. Several white supremacists and extreme right wing folk were in there.

    I don't think he himself is a white supremacist, but I also don't think he put any effort into avoiding them. For someone as visible as he is that's just bad all around.

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  53. I'd argue that a public figure at a certain level by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    has certain social responsibilities (note: social responsibilities, not legal ones). One of those is fostering a discourse and an environment that is overall a net positive.

    I haven't watched PDP, but he's had a mess of nasty controversies around racial themes. Ones he was pretty obviously doing on purpose because, as the saying goes, there's no such thing as bad publicity. And he was right. The backlashes have all blow over and he's kept the dough rolling in. But at a cost. That cost is normalizing a certain form of behavior. When it's out in the open like that and nobody's getting censored (that's censored in the social sense, not the legal/governmental sense) it because acceptable.

    That's sort of the problem. It's the old "boil a frog" analogy. Yeah, you can't really boil a frog, but it's easy to convince folks you can because it's a relatable thing for humans. The idea that you can get accustom to something awful or even deadly.

    We've got too many examples of horrifying things being normalized bit by bit to ignore this. The world at large should call PDP on his racist bullshit whether he means it or not and send him packing. He's not starting an honest discussion of racial issues. He's just a rancid troll winding angry kids up and sending them off.

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  54. Sure, here you go by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    right here

    For those who don't want to be bothered watching the video (or can't stand Cult of Dusty, which I can't really blame you for), PDP had a large number of alt-right personalities he was following and after the New Zealand shooter he emptied his followers list.

    PDP may or may not actually believe any of the things the alt-right does. But he absolutely uses the movement and it's fans to his advantage. The controversial things he's done have almost exclusively appealed to the alt-right.

    Like a lot of YouTubers he's figured out that the alt-right is a powerful engine for increasing views and ad revenue. But feeding off that isn't a one way street. He's normalizing and legitimizing the worst aspects of that community. And not just him. Other YouTubers like Sargon of Arkad, JonTron and Ben Shapiro are doing the same. Go look up some videos from Contrapoints, Three Arrows and hbomberguy on the subject. They're far better than anything I could type.

    There's an entire engine on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook dedicated to exploiting angry, bitter, jobless young men for ad revenue and Pateron donations. I'm bloody sick of it. It's dangerous as fuck. Eventually a real demagogue will come along and organize them into brown shirts.

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    1. Re:Sure, here you go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that's why I just subscribed to T-Series.

    2. Re:Sure, here you go by junglee_iitk · · Score: 1, Troll

      As someone who subscribed to T-Series - you are part of the problem. PewDiePie's base is the young generation. YOU are the one is out of sync.

      He's normalizing and legitimizing the worst aspects of that community.

      No buddy, you are. Literally, when you say "angry, bitter, jobless young men" as if that is not a problem or you don't get a sadistic pleasure in it. You DID when you gave your quite consent to far-left.

      Eventually a real demagogue will come along and organize them into brown shirts.

      If only the jobless young men were crying instead of being angry, help feminists, fight among themselves etc. their condition will improve, isn't it? Come-on! Even you don't believe it you have given consent to these snake-oil solutions being peddled to young boys and men. The gig is up. It is indeed scary that if it goes down, it will go down for everyone.

    3. Re:Sure, here you go by Tom · · Score: 1

      There's an entire engine on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook dedicated to exploiting angry, bitter, jobless young men for ad revenue and Pateron donations. I'm bloody sick of it. It's dangerous as fuck. Eventually a real demagogue will come along and organize them into brown shirts.

      Given how much easier it is to bleed them and buy yourself a yacht and a villa, most of them will be content with that. One of the (rare) advantages of the social media revolution is that the vast majority of people these days don't have enough attention span to attend an actual revolution anymore.

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    4. Re:Sure, here you go by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

      hbomberguy did a video specifically about PewDiePie: https://youtu.be/GjNILjFters

      Shaun is also very good, producing a lot of debunking videos.

      Just waiting for the wave of videos about Lauren Southern to hit now, given that the Christchurch terrorist cited her "Great Replacement" conspiracy theory prominently in his manifesto, even using it as the title.

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    5. Re:Sure, here you go by RedK · · Score: 2

      Just waiting for the wave of videos about Lauren Southern to hit now, given that the Christchurch terrorist cited her "Great Replacement" conspiracy theory prominently in his manifesto, even using it as the title.

      Why would you do exactly what that guy wants you to do ? Sow discord and create unrest. Like do you enjoy being a pawn ?

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    6. Re:Sure, here you go by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Because it's effective. Shining a light on people like her works. She has already been banned from half the world.

      As much as I dislike banning people, the marketplace of ideas has failed to deal with the problem and she directly endangers people. Directly, as in she went to the Mediterranean and endangered shipping.

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    7. Re:Sure, here you go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When has censorship ever worked?

    8. Re:Sure, here you go by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      When amijojo does it obviously.

    9. Re: Sure, here you go by Highdude702 · · Score: 0

      Can we start banning extreme leftist assholes, get them fired from their jobs, scream at them in restaurants, threaten their families, and punch them on the streets now?

      I'm going to have to say no. That would make the non extreme leftists/rightists no better than the fringe like amijojo. I can not personally condone censorship. Of any sort.

  55. Re:Curiosity by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

    In this case, yes, because hes not doing anything reasonable to stop the issue, as he is directly benefitting from the acts - he could reasonably say "the crown of largest number of subscribers on Youtube is not worth being advertised by a mass murdering gunman during a live stream of a shooting" and ask Youtube to either remove any mention of number of subscribers from his public facing account.

    Or he could shut down his Youtube account.

    But no, he does nothing, and basks in the glory of the attention he receives instead.

    So yeah, this is nothing like some idiots eating Tide-pods and blaming Tide for it.

  56. Moron Central by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    Amazing. Just look at all these fucking goobers desperate to tie their completely uninteresting little lives and egos to a Youtube 'star' who wouldn't piss on them even if they begged him to.

    I'm convinced more than ever that what this world needs is a damn good plague.

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    1. Re:Moron Central by AbRASiON · · Score: 0

      For the rest of you, this guy using the term "Goobers" means he's already staked his flag deep in the far left SJW dirt and will be absolutely unwilling to consider any opinion that doesn't comply with the rest of groupthink.

      Don't make decisions for yourself, don't watch any PewDiePie videos in any capacity, do not follow him, it's been declared he's in the sin bin, do not question the rest of the horde, follow, berate and comply.

      Don't be surprised to see language used such as "icky and gross" "problematic" "toxic" and so on and so forth.

    2. Re:Moron Central by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Don't be surprised to see language used such as "icky and gross" "problematic" "toxic" and so on and so forth.

      Forget all that shit, he's just uncreative and boring. I can get that anywhere. Hell, I can get that for free and without any hardware by just talking to people in public.

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  57. False Flag Success by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I'm going to subscribe to T-Series now because of the retards that did this.

    How do you know this was not the intent of the people that made the malware?

    Think about it, who benefits most from malware like this... most people would think as you do.

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  58. Re:Curiosity by Falconhell · · Score: 2

    Let’s not forget the New Zealand shooter promoted the asshole.

  59. Bad crypto by swillden · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sigh, /. is dead. It's like none of the posters even looked at the code.

    For anyone who's interested, the encryption used here is very poor. He leaves the mode and padding unspecified for both the asymmetric (RSA) and symmetric (AES) encryption operations. That causes the provider defaults to be used. In the case of the RSA step that's not terrible, since every provider I'm aware of uses PKCS#1 v1.5 padding. This isn't great, since PKCS#1 v1.5 is vulnerable to an adaptive chosen ciphertext attack, but in this usage that doesn't really matter.

    The bigger problem is that AES typically defaults to ECB mode. Using ECB means that any repeated 16-byte blocks of plaintext will encrypt to identical 16-byte blocks of ciphertext. This can often expose enough structure to allow the file contents to be partially recovered. It's particularly bad in this case since the same key is used to encrypt all of the files. If AES were in any way vulnerable to brute force, this would almost certainly provide many "cribs" (known plaintext/ciphertext pairs) which could be used to discover the key and decrypt everything else. AES-256 is not, however, vulnerable to brute force, and won't be until computers are made of something other than matter and occupy something other than space (anyone catch the reference?).

    Overall, I suppose the chosen encryption was adequate to the task, but it was very sloppy.

    Do you think he'd accept a pull request to fix it up?

    The minimum required changes are small. I'd use "RSA/ECB/OAEPWithSHA-256AndMGF1Padding" for the RSA operation, just because, and "AES/GCM/NoPadding" for the AES op. It would also be necessary to get the IV (let the provider generate it) and prepend it to each encrypted file. The files would be 28 bytes larger (12 for IV, 16 for tag), but secure.

    Also, I'd process files in chunks rather than reading a whole file into memory and then encrypting and writing it back out. It could then handle files of any size. His code just skips any files larger than 20 MB. That's actually the biggest flaw in the implementation; given file sizes today, lots of stuff would just be skipped. All of my RAW photos would be safe, for example. The JPEGs would get encrypted, but who cares about them?

    Oh, one more problem: Most systems these days don't overwrite in place, so the plaintext file will be left on the drive, available for recovery. Granted that recovery is not trivial, but still, the data will be there. Fixing this would require doing something like filling the drive with garbage files, forcing the drive to overwrite all free blocks. Overwriting multiple times might be a good idea, too, though that's probably not necessary. Some systems offer free space shredding as a feature; on those that could be used to ensure destruction of the plaintext.

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    1. Re:Bad crypto by Cytotoxic · · Score: 1

      Now that is a Slashdot response!

      Well done!

    2. Re:Bad crypto by swillden · · Score: 1

      I know, right? It's mostly nostalgia for the old days that keeps me around here. I should probably give up my /. habit.

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    3. Re:Bad crypto by Cytotoxic · · Score: 1

      I only peek in from time to time these days. They really left the nerd site stuff way behind. It is a shame, because it was a great community. There was a time where you might find yourself arguing the merits of a protocol with the guy who actually wrote it.

      On the other hand..... much, much less goat sex.

    4. Re:Bad crypto by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Do you think he'd accept a pull request to fix it up?

      I mean, you could try. Worst case is he doesn't commit. Best case is he offers to donate you some monies for your work.

  60. Re: Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reminder that leftist never have to answer for their followers, even when they directly order them to commit crimes. They are protected. Legally, at least.

  61. Re: Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People are jealous and angry with anyone who has more money and fame than they do. Especially when all they did was scream "FUCK" and act like a total spaz on YouTube.

  62. Re: I'd argue that a public figure at a certain le by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "can't really boil a frog"

    Ok, so what happens to a frog when it's in a pot of boiling water that's different than, say a hot dog? Because I *know" I can boil hot dogs.

  63. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is it with Libtards and their endless hunger to censor anyone who disagrees with them? When you have to blame them for the actions of their fans, you're desperate and pathetic. When will Slashdot finally take action and ban dargaud because of his stupidity? It's only fair.

    Thanks for explaining Peter Griffin from American Dad, very cool!!

  64. That's just the gov't you see by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    behind the scenes it's Reptile People all the way down.

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  65. Re:PDP also just removed 500 of his twitter follow by Pluvius · · Score: 2

    He did that because the shitheads that follow people like Cult of Dusty were sending PewDiePie's follows death threats, so PewDiePie replaced his list with a single link to K-Pop band BTS as a half joke, half attempt to sic millions of teenage fangirls onto said shitheads.

    Before this, PewDiePie also followed plenty of people who are not right wing, including Laci Green, Boogie2988, James Charles, and the aforementioned BTS. It's almost like he was using Twitter to follow interesting people regardless of whether or not he agreed with them, just like everyone else.

    Rob

  66. Re:I'd argue that a public figure at a certain lev by BringsApples · · Score: 1

    I think that where there's a 'social responsibility', there's a very 'socially responsible' person that decided what it was.

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  67. PewCrypt Requires Java Runtime Environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The PewCrypt Ransomware requires the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) to be present on the infected computer to carry out its attack. Java has long been notorious for it's security vulnerabilities. It's right up there with Adobe Flash for worst security ever. People who run JRE in 2019 deserve whatever happens to their computers.

  68. You can't hold anyone responsible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's Hackers! With Hacks! They've been Hacking!

    It's like holding smurfs accountable for smurfing. "Everybody knows" you just can't do that.

    Which is why breathless idiots shout "hacked! hacking! hackers!" anytime something funny happens and they can't readily attribute it to someone in specific, or they want this to be the case.

  69. Re: Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just because an asshole shouts out the name of a famous person, that famous person is somehow responsible?

    Left-tard logic I guess.

  70. Re:Curiosity by Can'tNot · · Score: 1

    Should we blame Tide for the idiots that ate their Tide-pods?

    Maybe? Funny thing about the Tide Pod Challenge: people doing that fad were a tiny fraction of the total number who have eaten Tide Pods. They were introduced in 2012, and just in that first year more than 7,000 children ate them. Age five and under.

    Sure we can blame the children, I don't have a problem with that. Children are awful. 7,000 in one year sure seems like a lot though.

  71. MOD PARENT UP by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

    I don't normally agree with mych you day, but this is right on the money. Also made me laugh. MOD ARENT UP!

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  72. This explains Donald J. Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I cannot understand why people waste any time on this PewDiePie asshole. He is a known racist and anti-semite. But I bet that the PewDiePie shit is the same phenomenon that gave us President Trump, and other recent dictators like in Brazil, Italy, and Hungary. I hope this fad of watching videos with stupid commentary by assholes like PewDiePie ends soon. Anyone who watches his crap is by definition an idiot.

    1. Re:This explains Donald J. Trump by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      So, you've never actually watched any of his videos. You're just going by what your echo chamber of friends tell you. You know, when I was growing up we were encouraged to think for our self. And to never blindly trust what somebody told us even if we wanted it to be true. Fucking kids these days... Their parents need to be beat.

  73. Re:Curiosity by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    You post gave me cancer. You defended Pewdiepie in your post. Therefore Pewdiepie gave me cancer and I should sue him.

  74. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He may have been disturbed by the NZ massacre, but he has been courting the racist, misogynist, white supremacist, 'alt-right' for some time. He has used enough subtlety to be able to plausibly deny it in situations like this.

  75. Arrest the author anyways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He wrote a virus, it got out and infected people. He should still be arrested and tried.

  76. Re:PDP also just removed 500 of his twitter follow by Cytotoxic · · Score: 1

    I'll speculate that it was more of a "follow me and I'll follow you" tit-for-tat strategy that is employed by "influencers". It is the famous people crowd's currency. You go on someone's podcast and say how great they are, and they say how great you are. It is all just advertising, paid for by in-kind contributions.

    If you violate the contract, then they retaliate in kind. Hence the celebrity twitter wars of hate. It is simple tit-for-tat game theory.

    So if someone with a big list of followers follows you, then you follow them back. Simple as that. You don't even have to read any of their stuff.... in fact, you probably couldn't read it all, not if you are following hundreds or even thousands of people.

  77. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a load of this guy

  78. Re:Curiosity by ZombieCatInABox · · Score: 1

    At what point, if any, do we start holding PDP responsible for the actions of his fans?

    If he takes their money, then he is responsible.

  79. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The issue is not going after the celeb, but what the celeb responds to what happened. Both of the people you mentioned did nothing and/or rejected any responsibilities of their name being used in those actions. A decent person would at least tried to say something to discourage their fans to do positive things instead.

    I personally don't think that the disaster action is the celeb's fault. But when it comes to the celeb's reaction to what happened, that's what I'm holding the celeb's accountable.

  80. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    NZ shooter did that on purpose to flame the culture war because the New Zealand shooter understood the internet, meme culture, and how media report things. That is why he named dropped Candace Owens and PewDiePie because they are controversial (to some extent) and because he knew that the media and useful idiots would point the finger at them. All the while he said exactly what radicalized him, when, where, and why he did what he did the way he did it (it was a trip in France when Macron was elected). It wasn't Candace Owens and it wasn't PewDiePie. He wanted to piss people off at have them go after each other. His goal was to start a civil war in the US by flaming the left and the right.

    Let's not do what that ass hole wanted. Ok?

  81. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately, if you're in America, then yes.

    See any 'frivolous lawsuit', logically invalid, that win settlements from manufacturers.

  82. Re:Curiosity by BringsApples · · Score: 1

    Children aren't awful. Why wouldn't you consider the parents the reason the kids were able to eat the tide pods?

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  83. Re:I'd argue that a public figure at a certain lev by penandpaper · · Score: 1

    "That cost is normalizing a certain form of behavior. "

    making edgy jokes? Uh oh. The Joke Nazi's are out goose stepping their way into normalizing fascist behavior again. Let's round up all the comedians and put them in camps where they can concentrate on Correct Funny Jokes that are approved by the Central Committee of Approved Comedians and Jokes. They have cookies!

    "He's not starting an honest discussion of racial issues"
    Obviously. Was Monty Python? Was CK Louis? Was Dave Chapelle? Does everything have to "start an honest discussion"? What ever happened to just making jokes for the sake of jokes. If you find it funny great if not move on.

    You sound like a puritan nanny upset the kiddies listen to rap in the 90's. Or upset about D&D spreading satanism in the 80's.

  84. Re:Curiosity by penandpaper · · Score: 2

    the crown of largest number of subscribers on Youtube is not worth being advertised by a mass murdering gunman during a live stream of a shooting" and ask Youtube to either remove any mention of number of subscribers from his public facing account.

    The entire subscriber count between PDP and TSeries is a meme and is about what YouTube is and whether it is more for corporations or for people like how it started out. People that don't even care about PDP subscribe to him just because of that. Hell, even Blizzard comedy fanfic is jumping on because as they say "As the whole event has been happening, I thought it was pretty cool how so many of us have came together for a common cause, for the YouTube community; For creators not corporations. " T-Series is a polished corporation with corporate money backing. PDP is just some dude with a camera.

    The NZ terrorist understood meme culture, the internet, and the media and knew that name dropping PDP would cause people to point the finger at him to fan the flames of the culture war to start a civil war in the US.

  85. Re:Curiosity by penandpaper · · Score: 1

    "Funny thing about the Tide Pod"

    They look delicious.

  86. Re:Curiosity by penandpaper · · Score: 2

    What is good enough for you to denounce a tragedy in your name?

    Is this? This?

  87. Re: Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He made a handful of "edgy jokes"
    Last I checked he hasn't killed any Jews yet.

    I'm not willing to label him a racist Nazi person because I'm not a millennial douchbag or a media shill.

    I know you kids need a purpose or villain to scream at and rise up against, but can't you save it for someone that actually is deserving of it?

  88. Re: Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Funny, I moved to the EU from the US.

    They use packaging and colors you would assume were food stuff products for cleaning chemicals and detergents.

    Thankfully I'm not a child and I can read the labels, but I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often over here.

  89. Re: Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you fucking retarded? Or just a liar?
    Or a fucking retarded liar?

    Pewdiepie said the incident in NZ made him sick.

    Prior to that he has specifically stated multiple fucking times!!!! that the number 1 YouTuber spot was only a meme and not to do "anything illegal" to support him.

    Get off the internet wallstreet journal, your bias reporting is showing...

  90. Re: Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because the new progressives think of people as a monolith, hence he who has fans obviously has influence over them, thus it's his fault if they do anything wrong.

    Also he gets no credit of they do anything positive, as a group or as individuals.

  91. Re: Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PDP probably doesn't even know about this yet, he doesn't lurk on US tech blog forums, you people and the absolute "need" to blame him for everything, get fucked you cuck boy.

  92. Re: Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So of I donate to the Make a Wish Foundation are they responsible if I murder your dog?

  93. Re:Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "FrEe SpEeCh Is A lIbErAl CoNcEpT"

  94. who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wutz a pew die pie, and why do we care?

  95. I think the goal is to call the Alt-Right out by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    on their ties to White Supremacy and Neo-Nazis. The Alt-Right has been using dog whistles to cosy up with those two groups since day 1 without taking any flack to speak of. It's both dangerous and disingenuous to allow that to go on.

    What I'm saying is this: The Alt-Right are not your friends. They're a friendly face on the same Authoritarian arm of the right wing that's been around since the 20s. They exist specifically to legitimize and normalize something that was rightly recognized as horrific post WWII and the Civil Rights movement.

    Now, you can find pages and pages of posts, documents and hours of video of their leadership talking about this, but you have to plow through a lot of crap to get to it. In the old days we had professional journalists doing that work. Nowadays it's YouTubers.

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    1. Re:I think the goal is to call the Alt-Right out by Highdude702 · · Score: 2

      I love how you always talk about "dog whistles" you know how those work right? You sure do hear them a lot. Maybe you're the "alt-right" nazi.

  96. We ALL decide what socially responsible is by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    hopefully using our reasoning abilities instead of emotion or (worse) authority. But when you just throw you're hands up and say "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" you're not being a free speech warrior, you're just trying to absolve yourself of responsibility for your actions (or lack thereof).

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  97. No, Normalizing Nazis by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    via humor that doesn't actually lampoon them, but makes them relatable. PDP isn't actively trying to do this, btw. If he was it'd be easier to spot him for what he's doing. Instead he's responding to whatever gets him attention and views.

    Making fun of Nazis ala Monty Python is old hat. If PDP tried that folks would shrug and go watch Monty Python. If they wanted blue humor CK & Chapelle both do it better. So he just flies Nazi flags and waits for the views to roll in from the controversy. Meanwhile he's made plain Nazi iconography just a little more normalized in society at large. He's made it hard to tell the difference between "just doing it for the lulz" and actual Nazis. And he's given the actual Nazis cover, many of whom after the "Unit the Right" lobby used the same excuse of "the lulz" as PDP did.

    There were never any actual rappers using their music to form gangs (there was a bunch of drug money laundering going on though) and there weren't any real Satanic cults using D&D to lure helpless victims. There _are_ Nazis using PDP and other YouTubers like him to recruit.

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    1. Re:No, Normalizing Nazis by penandpaper · · Score: 1

      >Nazis using PDP and other YouTubers like him to recruit.
      Can you show me the nazi's that use PDP and other Youtubers to recruit.

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  99. Re: Curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He may or may not be a white supremacist, but the problem here is that white supremacists think he's a white supremacist. And I don't know about you, but if white supremacists thought I was one of them, I'd be taking steps to distance myself from them.