You are right! Fortunately, as I wrote TFA's author requesting to see ABNT's letter anyway, I was surprised to know that ABNT actually submitted an appeal to ISO. (Which the author himself didn't knew up to the time of blogging).
So..they make Antiaircraft laser technology avalilable and cheap so that expensive antiaircraft missiles are rendered obsolete.
And later on when terrorists build technology based on these lasers thenselves to hit aircraft, they will come out with what? A tachion-laser detector coupled to anti-light lasers in each commercial airplane?
Ambiguous? Thre is nothing ambiguous in the GPL. It is what it is, and if their software integrates with GPLed software and they do not distribute their source, or think their users cannot further reddistribute the software they are plain bugglars.
If, on the other hand, thy just have isolated GPLed programs that comes along with their products, in the way that is very clearly allowed by the GPL, they should just clarify that and shut up.
This is not any ordinary "error". It is proprietary format obsolecense. Every other argument on why one should attain to open file formats will tell you about this happening in "the future".
It just lloks like 2008 is "the future" already.:-)
Actually, I myself would like to believe this had been made out of pure _evil_ intents emanating from Redmond. But since they are getting pressed about file-format issues by governments everywhere, and this just make a strong case for helping weaken their monopoly in the Office Suite space, I'd say it is plain stupdity. (so, yes, an "error" like you said..but given its timing, an unbeliably stupid one). An stupitdy I welcome. I hope now people start moving their files to open formats and realising strong fileformats are jsut that: a way to become a hostage.
Hi... There is a misconcpet here. When I say GNU/Linux I am talking of teh GNU system using teh Linux kernel - which is usually called just "Linux" by the media (both mainstream and not). As a matter of fact all the called Linux Distros - including Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, RedHat, Mandriva, Slackware and others are distributions of the GNU system. Linux is the kernel it uses - just like a car has an engine, and is of little use without an engine. On the other hand, an engine without a car would not be as confortable or usable.
In the above HP desktop case I do not know which distribution they tried to configure.
>> OpenOficce would take a full 3 minutes to start!! Because they had configured a 128MB system with a 1GB Swap.
> You didn't really need to add "with a 1GB swap" there.
Yes I needed. This is the misconfiguration that makes it take a full 3 minutes to load. Otherwise it will load in 20-30 seconds in a 128MB system. Not if 90% of system and app libraries are stuck in swap.
In my coutry we have had GNU/Linux in low end PC's at mainstream outlets for sometime now.Most of these are replaced by an ilegal copy of windows on the first days of use, but still some stick around.That is just part of the vicious circle desktop systems are inserted due to the monopoly exerced by Microsoft, and certainly the few GNUs remaining do contribute for a slow market share shift.
The main problem, IMHO, is not even Joe Newbie who re-formats his GNU PC. It is the mentality of PC vendors itself who do not even configure their GNU/Linuxes correctly on their hardware.
The other day I saw a notebook at a shop with a misconfigured video driver, logged in X11 with a purplish tint and horizontal garbage lines everywhere. Another example: a local LinuxMagazine review a couple of years ago found out that in a Hwlet Packard low end desktop system pre-configured with GNU/Linux (indeed!), OpenOficce would take a full 3 minutes to start!! Because they had configured a 128MB system with a 1GB Swap.
Let me see...there is a direction I like to see businness move...some moving in that direction slow down or turn to the other side...I dislike that. On the other hand, some of the people going int he opposite direction turn around and start moving on the direction I want.
What is "double" about that?? TFA seens to be quite brain dead.
Can someone confirm if Safari is actually vulnerable, or if it is just that the author thinks that "all open source browsers are just the same"?
I tried it with Konqueror and default KDE 3.5 password saving tecnhology, and no password leaked this way. I wonder if Safari would have problems there.
So, this is waht we from the Free world use to claim: closed source slows down inovation and locks you out.
In a few weeks there will be some reverse engeneered software to synch IPhone with GNU/Linux.
Yes, if I want to use it on the day it is out, I will have to compile it (which likely ammounts to typing three or four commands on my console), and quite possibly it still be a command line tool but in a few more days, it will be improved to integrate nicely with other tools I already use, under the same interface, without changes. Open specifications anyone??
And...it will work with 32 or 64bit gnu/Linux, and possibly even with other Unix variants.
But people prefer to be trapped to a monoculture of badly writen code than "pioneering" very nice software.
I should remember that the fact that now we have to wait for having iPhone or other vendors official support is mainly due to not having a "meaningfull slice of desktop share" of desktops in use. And even then...if they invent things like "no 64 bit support" - we can run our own.
Since other bugs in yahoo make it mail me a new password in an e-mail which is not the one I get my (yahoo) mailing lists delivered to, and no other way to restore access to my account.
In my country we are paying the equivalent of US$4.70 per gallon (R$ 2.50 / liter) right now - and had being paying around US$ 4.27 over the last 30 months or so.
Except that if you feed the giant because it is 10% faster, or 12% cooler now, the small one may starve out, and bye bye "processor wars enduring years". You get stuck into a monopoly that won't do any good.
That is why I went AMD on my new system, even though I was paying, right now, a little more for less. (Which, I learned later, as I am on 64 bit is not even less)
Hi, I just checked this news, and when I oppened my e-mail, there it was in a F.S. list, a message witht eh subject "Getting back the money from pre-installed Windows in a Dell computer". I thought at first it would be a link to this same news. However, it tuerned out to be a brazillian customer who achieved just the same over the past week. You can check the google translation, or the original blog entry if you can read Portuguese. It was not as easy as in TFA, though, the customer had to make a phone call, and mention by name brazillian customer law, which forbids bound product selling.
I just try to imagine someone enforcing the speed limit in the same way DRM enforces copyright: at very least, all cars having an automatic sensor with camera and OCR software that would read the transit speed signs, and just slow the car down until it complies. Very safe and usefull, indeed!
Sorry for the OT, but I have some work to get going for a change. Does any of you who have tried IE7.0 use Tortoise SVN extensions? Does it keep working fine after IE 7 install?
Thanks.
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Indeed, I got puzzled about the choice for this syntax.
In short, there was some discussion on the mailing lists about whether the syntax should be, and no clear winner could be appointed. Then, the BDFL figured out that whenever conditional expressions are used, one of the values is usually the norm and the other the exception, thus, putting the normal value at the beggning of the expression made it for code readability.
From the URL above: """\ This syntax may seem strange and backwards; why does the condition go in the middle of the expression, and not in the front as in C's c ? x : y? The decision was checked by applying the new syntax to the modules in the standard library and seeing how the resulting code read. In many cases where a conditional expression is used, one value seems to be the 'common case' and one value is an 'exceptional case', used only on rarer occasions when the condition isn't met. The conditional syntax makes this pattern a bit more obvious: contents = ((doc + '\n') if doc else '') """
From the article: "The stopwatch was started upon clicking the paste option" Eeekkk. I knew bad software used to spoil people...but pasting with the mouse and time measure with a stop watch in an otherwisde serious benchmark has got off limits.
Please help!! Someone bring computing back to personal computers!
PS. for those clueless mouse clickers out there, all that would be needed to have the computer itself measure times, in an Operational System, would be typing: time cp files/media/mycard/myfolder
Actually, I am in Brazil,and I just checked they have a Brazillian and some other (not that many) countries there. I hope there is an Australian interactive map somewhere as well.
I surely try to understand what is all the fuss about mandatory ID cards.
In my contry it is mandatory, and I have one since I was 14, and I never saw anyone die out of it.
I admit, they were introduced in rough dictaorial times. But in a democracy, they work just fine, thanks, unless I want to just move away, change my name, and start a life with a made up ID. One intending to this would be out of the law anyway, I guess, even in countries with no ID cards. (if not, tell me where. I will just move over to your country and live 2 years in each place, leaving all my debts behind each time I move).
Moreover, in USA people already have the infamous driver licenses and Social Security numbers - which identifies one either way.
So, what is the fuss about?
Honest. I am not meaning to troll here, I want you to explain me that.
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Well..the same kind of people who still use something as odd as Microsoft Windows, for example.
I hope so! He seemed far more happy yesterday than at the time of the blog entry. He also told me to hold on for some more news next week! :-)
You are right!
Fortunately, as I wrote TFA's author requesting to see ABNT's letter anyway, I was surprised to know that ABNT actually submitted an appeal to ISO. (Which the author himself didn't knew up to the time of blogging).
ABNT's full letter can be found in this other blog.
So..they make Antiaircraft laser technology avalilable and cheap so that expensive antiaircraft missiles are rendered obsolete.
And later on when terrorists build technology based on these lasers thenselves to hit aircraft, they will come out with what? A tachion-laser detector coupled to anti-light lasers in each commercial airplane?
Ambiguous?
Thre is nothing ambiguous in the GPL. It is what it is, and if their software integrates with GPLed software and they do not distribute their source, or think their users cannot further reddistribute the software they are plain bugglars.
If, on the other hand, thy just have isolated GPLed programs that comes along with their products, in the way that is very clearly allowed by the GPL, they should just clarify that and shut up.
This is not any ordinary "error". It is proprietary format obsolecense. Every other argument on why one should attain to open file formats will tell you about this happening in "the future".
:-)
It just lloks like 2008 is "the future" already.
Actually, I myself would like to believe this had been made out of pure _evil_ intents emanating from Redmond. But since they are getting pressed about file-format issues by governments everywhere, and this just make a strong case for helping weaken their monopoly in the Office Suite space, I'd say it is plain stupdity. (so, yes, an "error" like you said..but given its timing, an unbeliably stupid one). An stupitdy I welcome. I hope now people start moving their files to open formats and realising strong fileformats are jsut that: a way to become a hostage.
Hi...
There is a misconcpet here. When I say GNU/Linux I am talking of teh GNU system using teh Linux kernel - which is usually called just "Linux" by the media (both mainstream and not). As a matter of fact all the called Linux Distros - including Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, RedHat, Mandriva, Slackware and others are distributions of the GNU system. Linux is the kernel it uses - just like a car has an engine, and is of little use without an engine. On the other hand, an engine without a car would not be as confortable or usable.
In the above HP desktop case I do not know which distribution they tried to configure.
>> OpenOficce would take a full 3 minutes to start!! Because they had configured a 128MB system with a 1GB Swap.
> You didn't really need to add "with a 1GB swap" there.
Yes I needed. This is the misconfiguration that makes it take a full 3 minutes to load. Otherwise it will load in 20-30 seconds in a 128MB system. Not if 90% of system and app libraries are stuck in swap.
In my coutry we have had GNU/Linux in low end PC's at mainstream outlets for sometime now.Most of these are replaced by an ilegal copy of windows on the first days of use, but still some stick around.That is just part of the vicious circle desktop systems are inserted due to the monopoly exerced by Microsoft, and certainly the few GNUs remaining do contribute for a slow market share shift.
The main problem, IMHO, is not even Joe Newbie who re-formats his GNU PC. It is the mentality of PC vendors itself who do not even configure their GNU/Linuxes correctly on their hardware.
The other day I saw a notebook at a shop with a misconfigured video driver, logged in X11 with a purplish tint and horizontal garbage lines everywhere. Another example: a local LinuxMagazine review a couple of years ago found out that in a Hwlet Packard low end desktop system pre-configured with GNU/Linux (indeed!), OpenOficce would take a full 3 minutes to start!! Because they had configured a 128MB system with a 1GB Swap.
Let me see...there is a direction I like to see businness move...some moving in that direction slow down or turn to the other side...I dislike that.
On the other hand, some of the people going int he opposite direction turn around and start moving on the direction I want.
What is "double" about that?? TFA seens to be quite brain dead.
Can someone confirm if Safari is actually vulnerable, or if it is just that the author thinks that "all open source browsers are just the same"?
I tried it with Konqueror and default KDE 3.5 password saving tecnhology, and no password leaked this way. I wonder if Safari would have problems there.
mg/oz!
DOH!!!
Why not list it in Sun-Masses/Proton-Radius^3 once for all?
So,
this is waht we from the Free world use to claim: closed source slows down inovation and locks you out.
In a few weeks there will be some reverse engeneered software to synch IPhone with GNU/Linux.
Yes, if I want to use it on the day it is out, I will have to compile it (which likely ammounts to typing three or four commands on my console), and quite possibly it still be a command line tool but in a few more days, it will be improved to integrate nicely with other tools I already use, under the same interface, without changes. Open specifications anyone??
And...it will work with 32 or 64bit gnu/Linux, and possibly even with other Unix variants.
But people prefer to be trapped to a monoculture of badly writen code than "pioneering" very nice software.
I should remember that the fact that now we have to wait for having iPhone or other vendors official support is mainly due to not having a "meaningfull slice of desktop share" of desktops in use. And even then...if they invent things like "no 64 bit support" - we can run our own.
Since other bugs in yahoo make it mail me a new password in an e-mail which is not the one I get my (yahoo) mailing lists delivered to, and no other way to restore access to my account.
In my country we are paying the equivalent of US$4.70 per gallon (R$ 2.50 / liter) right now - and had being paying around US$ 4.27 over the last 30 months or so.
Except that if you feed the giant because it is 10% faster, or 12% cooler now, the small one may starve out, and bye bye "processor wars enduring years". You get stuck into a monopoly that won't do any good.
That is why I went AMD on my new system, even though I was paying, right now, a little more for less. (Which, I learned later, as I am on 64 bit is not even less)
Hi, I just checked this news, and when I oppened my e-mail, there it was
in a F.S. list, a message witht eh subject "Getting back the money from pre-installed
Windows in a Dell computer". I thought at first it would be a link to this same
news.
However, it tuerned out to be a brazillian customer who achieved just the same
over the past week. You can check the google translation, or the original blog entry if you can read Portuguese.
It was not as easy as in TFA, though, the customer had to make a phone call, and mention by name brazillian customer law, which forbids bound product selling.
I just try to imagine someone enforcing the speed limit in the same way DRM enforces copyright: at very least, all cars having an automatic sensor with camera and OCR software that would read the transit speed signs, and just slow the car down until it complies. Very safe and usefull, indeed!
Sorry for the OT, but I have some work to get going for a change.
Does any of you who have tried IE7.0 use Tortoise SVN extensions?
Does it keep working fine after IE 7 install?
Thanks.
Indeed, I got puzzled about the choice for this syntax.
They explain why, whether one agrees or not with it, in this part of the release notes.
In short, there was some discussion on the mailing lists about whether the syntax should be, and no clear winner could be appointed. Then, the BDFL figured out that whenever conditional expressions are used, one of the values is usually the norm and the other the exception, thus, putting the normal value at the beggning of the expression made it for code readability.
From the URL above:
"""\
This syntax may seem strange and backwards; why does the condition go in the middle of the expression, and not in the front as in C's c ? x : y? The decision was checked by applying the new syntax to the modules in the standard library and seeing how the resulting code read. In many cases where a conditional expression is used, one value seems to be the 'common case' and one value is an 'exceptional case', used only on rarer occasions when the condition isn't met. The conditional syntax makes this pattern a bit more obvious:
contents = ((doc + '\n') if doc else '')
"""
From the article:
/media/mycard/myfolder
"The stopwatch was started upon clicking the paste option"
Eeekkk. I knew bad software used to spoil people...but pasting with the mouse and time measure with a stop watch in an otherwisde serious benchmark has got off limits.
Please help!! Someone bring computing back to personal computers!
PS. for those clueless mouse clickers out there, all that would be needed to have the computer itself measure times, in an Operational System, would be typing:
time cp files
Actually, I am in Brazil,and I just checked they have a Brazillian and some other (not that many) countries there. I hope there is an Australian interactive map somewhere as well.
So far there are only google maps for a few elect countries, and most of the world can only see photos and national boundaries.
Sites as map24 (Warning JAVA interface) have actual _maps_ for the "rest of the World". That makes me user their services instead of Google.
About food:
Food growth depends on Potassium (K) used in fertilizers. And this is running out too.
I surely try to understand what is all the fuss about mandatory ID cards.
In my contry it is mandatory, and I have one since I was 14, and I never saw anyone die out of it.
I admit, they were introduced in rough dictaorial times. But in a democracy, they work just fine, thanks, unless I want to just move away, change my name, and start a life with a made up ID. One intending to this would be out of the law anyway, I guess, even in countries with no ID cards. (if not, tell me where. I will just move over to your country and live 2 years in each place, leaving all my debts behind each time I move).
Moreover, in USA people already have the infamous driver licenses and Social Security numbers - which identifies one either way.
So, what is the fuss about?
Honest. I am not meaning to troll here, I want you to explain me that.