That outsourcing would explain a few things i suspect.
My dad's email acount had some serious issues a year or so ago so I check with two mail programs (one os OE which he used and I forget the other) and got the same dropped connection at the same email.
So I dig out the rfc in question and telnet into his acount and do it manually, and shure enough it's bailing out on one specific e-mail at a the exact same place and on no others. It doese this whether I pull that one first or not, and on no other email.
So I call them and get told they only support OE and not 'telnet mail reader' or 'rfc mail reader' by the tech. This guy can't even understand when I explain them to him.
This exact senario (with the email bombing at a specific mail) happend a dozen times in 6 months before fading to about 3 times in the following year. The only solution I found was to delete the offending mail without d/l'ing it till they got a web interface working.
The online helpers can't seem to figure out how much they would charge if I set up isdn, and can't seem to understand english well enough to realize that thier answers make no sense.
The account started out as a local isp (owned by the big newspaper here of all things) that decided not to stay in that bussiness and transfered all accounts to mindspring which got bought out shortly there after.
As the sibling post points out, cases with doors set up with proper strength magnets (and free enough hinges) pop open easily from the tray pushing into them from inside.
The benifits are likely acoustic (my cooler master is pretty quite, moreso with the door shut) and perhaps airflow if designed that way.
The only other benifit I can see to a door is locking it, not much of one in most cases, but some phb types migh get warm fuzzies from it.
I'll second this. I got one cheap a while back.
It killed a LOT of noise I wasn't even aware of till I moved everything over to it, expecially with the door closed.
It's quite a bit cooler than the old tower was as well.
FWIW I used to go to a particular small shop that sold custom built computers and such untill the owner got offered a really good job just as the cost savings of a diy computer droped low enough to make his margins razor thin.
Well sometime around 92-94 (IIRC) he posted a big sign saying he no longer carried or recomended conner hard drives, and if asked to order/install one he would do so but you had to take up all warrenty issues directly with conner yourself. Bellow that he had documentation where where he'd spent 10 weeks trying to get a succesfull replacement for one, four round trips with rma hassles followed by conner ingnoring him for the last two weeks (it taking an average of a week of him calling to get each rma #) before finally sending him a check for the drive, with him eating the shipping costs on the returned drives.
This was meerly the worst one, he said he'd had some kind of hassle with nearly a third of the conners he'd sold sofar that year.
So you're saying people buy cars that reflect thier personaly desired penis size?
I suppose you consider anything faster than a 486 a penis extender?
Some people see thier car as more than just how to get from point a to b. Some do not. I used to be mostly in the latter category untill I had the money to buy a nicer car ('99 Mustang convertable), and now I'm in the other category.
It's just alot of fun to drive around back (but not to back! not the best ground clearance) in early evening in nice weather with the top down.
Do I need it? no not really, my old Aspire (barely more than 1/3 the engine size) got me around well enough using just over half the gas per unit distance. But the Mustang is just plain fun.
Somewhat related is the people who take checks drawn on 'the west Bank of the Missippi" or signed by Mini Mouse.
I recall seeing both of those on some pbs show on check fraud and related things.
You'd have to read the Right Niven stories ("Pack Protector" and others in his future history series) and Heinlein stories ("The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" mostly).
Yep, if you want an actor goto hollywood, want a a scholar there's a few good institutions, want almost any kind of person there's a place to go, but if you want somone completely different get a belter.
Yeah I could imagine a small neutronium ball could be quite usefull to ARM. For example you could use it to ****BING***Sorry you have intruded on ARM bussiness and this post has been terminated, and ARM will reimburse you the $0.00 you have paid so far on this post. Thank you for your co-operation ****BING**** would make a pretty big bang though. Oh crap said the wrong thing.
A year? wow. I assumed they sent the latest version when they did the mailings (no broadband here). well I just might try it sooner then. I now know not to trust it with a my mbr and have a quick fix handy.
Some sectors do expect some salaried jobs to be more than 40/week. Resturaunt managers are generally expected to work about 50.
It used to be (not shure how the changes a while back effected this) that if you were salaried you had an 'effective' hourly rate, this was what you'd be paid as an hourly employee to get the same pay for the same hours (including 1.5 pay for everything over 40) and if you consistantly worked more than the hours used to figure this base pay they had to compensate you for the extra overtime. I think the timeframe used to figure this was quarterly.
So if you made $600 a week for a 50 hour salaried job, but wound up working an average of 60 hours they owed you another 200/week for those hours. Of course in many cases if this happened they likely figured the extra 10 hours a week you were spending was because you were incompetent and couldn't do the job in the normal time, unless you had a good reason (such as boosting the bottom line more than proportionate for example).
May I ask which version of ubuntu you were using. all 4.1 for amd64 had listed in it's grub boot was various ubuntu kernal options (including smp on a single processor system?!?!).
I suspect 4.1 for amd64 was released fairly incomplete.
I might try again later, but 4.1 was such a pain to deal with I hesistate to do so soon.
Well I've already made great headway on the middle of those three things your relative Heinrich did. My poetry is so-so on a good day. And despite a few years in my late teens where it seemed a serious option I've decided against the remaining feat.
Space is pretty big(well actually much much much much bigger than that, see it's entry in the hhgttg for a more impressive understatement that falls mindbogglingly short). Out that far I would think the odds so low that a mass detector with a few au range would likely never see Kobold's remains even if it spent a millineum cruising around the Kuipier belt.
What I wanted was dual boot. My first preference would have been for it to be installed on the SAME hard drive as the distro itself (since I can press one fkey durring the bios bootup to choose boot device) or failing that to have the sense to do the obvious and check for other os's and add them to the boot menu in grub (or lilo or whichever they want to use). Or at the very least allow me to tell it what os's are where and add them in like distro's have been doing for many years now.
I simply found it to be broken. I'm told the complete misshandling of file types is likely gnome and not ubuntu, but the complete misshandling of dual-boot and the mbr isn't.
I'm sorry but handling the mbr that way on disk that's already formatted is simply irresponsible.
Essentially installing ubuntu rendered most of my data and software unaccessable without doing things most joe's wouldn't know how to do.
They seem to be targetting the masses here, but you won't succede in that if the first thing you do is wreck Joe's computer(joe won't know how to restore his mbr).
IIRC this was the first 64bit release, and I'm pretty shure there's been one since, so I'm hoping they iron out the problems. Untill they get the critical ones fixed this is still a beta distro at best IMHO.
I have some hope for them, but they are not there as of 4.1. I intend to eventually try the 32bit ver on a seperate system and see if it's more mature, I shure hope so.
Most bios's now support choosing boot device order, some also support choosing it without having to go into the bios setup.
My last two mb's have a list of hotkeys that include one to choose boot device. That was my intent, install everything on one hdd and press TWO keys to cause the bios to goto the ubuntu drive when I wanted to boot into that.
My point was most people don't have a preference if they don't have a clue(on anything). you implied they would because they didn't have a clue, wich makes NO sense, how can you have a preference for x over y if you don't even know about x or y?
Considering he singed his poetry (he only left two poems) 'Black Bart the po8", I'm not shure how cool being related to one of the first 1337 speak users is.:)
He just robbed wells fargo coaches, 28 in all. He pointed a shotgun, but never fired it.
the poems:
"I've labored long and hard for bread for honor and for riches But on my corns too long youve tred You fine haired sons of Bitches Black Bart the PO 8
and
"here I lay me down to sleep to wait the coming morrow perhaps success perhaps defeat and everlasting Sorrow let come what will I'll try it on My condition can't be worse and if theres money in that box Tis munny in my purse Black Bart the PO 8"
He was a bit of an odd duck, but he did seem to have some outstanding characteristics. you get several good reference, not all in complete agreement on details, from the first google page.
Anyone stupid enough to pull a 10meter chunk of mostly neutronium abord ship is stupid enough to need weeding from the gene pool. The first tug will show you it's got much more mas than the craft doing the tugging. there'd be a few other tell tales as well if they do any checking at all.
It did not. I repeated the install after discovering the problem and looked carefully for any options concerning the boot sector or anything even remotely related, it did not at any point give me the option of not overwriting the boot sector or dual booting.
Aslo I was specifically watching for that step in the install as I've installed other distro's that default to hda0 and wanted to be shure to put the disto and bootloader on the correct drive. I was able to select the drive for the distro, but no drive or multiboot options were given with respect to the bootloader, nor even an option not to install a bootloader.
The specific version with the faulty behaviour is "Version 4.10 (AMD64/EM64T Edition)" according to the install disk itself.
Perhaps you have a later or earlier version or the 32bit version that tells you it's going to overwrite the boot sector of another hdd than the one it's being installed to or even lets you avoid it, but not 4.10 for amd64.
Also I'm not shure how you come to the conclusion:"Also most people would like to install Grub on their MBR, since they don't even know what it is." HUH?!? If they don't know what it is how can they have a preference. And if they did why would they want all thier existing software and data suddenly rendered unreachable?
The default should be dual boot unless going into a clean machine. Linux distro's have been able to detect windows xp partitions for some time now.With windows dominance on the desktop assuming that no one installing your os would want to keep access to thier windows partition/hard-drive is simply arrogance or stupidity that doesn't belong in a distro that apears to marketting itself to the masses (or would like to think so). I sincerely hope these errors are just because amd64 is new for them and they forgott to lable 4.1/amd64 as beta.
My mom's familly is from south-eastern Missouri(bootheel area), fairly near the border, and can trace one line chunk of our back ancestry to Germany, the other lines almost all go back to Ireland(except the one native).
My Dad's side go back to california, but moved there when about time his dad died (when he was 14) but traces back to Ireland in just a couple generations. It's also possible 'Black Bart' was a relative ('amusingly eccentric' one at that google it and try to rember I'm several generations removed:) ) considering he was in the right places at the right times and a few other things.
Actually there's been two anouncements of planet candidates. The nearer one close to Pluto's size and the other comfortably larger. I forget which one, but one of them has a small moon (sound familiar?) both in the region of the Kuipier(sp?) belt.
My grandparents had so many kids My cousins number in the dozens, the eldest is nearing retirement and the youngest is in highschool.
This isn't counting second or third cousins.
Good thing most of them live quite a distance away, it'd suck having to ask "am I related to you" before deciding whether to be attracted to a nice looking gal of the right age:)
I was under the impression the neutronium cyclynder didn't have to be of infinite length, shouldn't frame-dragging for temporal transit work as long as the mass and density are sufficient and spinning fast enough to create the desired distortion? The figure I remember is hight=10Km diameter=2Km and rotational speed such that surface velocity was 1/2c.
I can choose which drive to boot from with my current bios, no need to fiddle with the hardware, and that was the plan. I was expecting Ubuntu(dunno why i always think an m belongs there, personal glitch) to ask how I wanted to handle that, it never did, just went merrily along and toasted a totaly different drive's bootsector. At the very least it could have detected the winxp boot sector and gave me a dual boot option like other distro's, considering how sizable a chunk of people(using linux) dual boot it's downright stupid (or extreemly arrogant) not to at least offer it outside of a server oriented distro. They didn't even provide a warning or a notice, my first clue was the next time I booted the system and couldn't get to anything but ubuntu.
I was however unaware that the mime-type scramble was likely a gnome thing(a very stupid one imho, I could understand if it guessed wrong on an obscure file type, or at least had all the *iso's as mp3's, but some at random?!?!?!). To be honest while there are times I prefer kde, gnome is usually my choice (I like having the option of both to tell the truth).
And as I said, this was with the amd64 version, it's possible some of these mistakes were from being so new. But if your going to put out beta software you should lable it as such. Those two mistakes alone are enough to make me wait a while before risking my system on something beta at best again.
Microsoft has been found to be a monopoly. Under US law this changes some of the rules, and not in microsofts favor (not that you can tell by results, but theoretically speaking at least).
Mycroft (not a lawyer, not employed by MS APPLE or the DOJ, etc.)
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That outsourcing would explain a few things i suspect.
My dad's email acount had some serious issues a year or so ago so I check with two mail programs (one os OE which he used and I forget the other) and got the same dropped connection at the same email.
So I dig out the rfc in question and telnet into his acount and do it manually, and shure enough it's bailing out on one specific e-mail at a the exact same place and on no others. It doese this whether I pull that one first or not, and on no other email.
So I call them and get told they only support OE and not 'telnet mail reader' or 'rfc mail reader' by the tech. This guy can't even understand when I explain them to him.
This exact senario (with the email bombing at a specific mail) happend a dozen times in 6 months before fading to about 3 times in the following year. The only solution I found was to delete the offending mail without d/l'ing it till they got a web interface working.
The online helpers can't seem to figure out how much they would charge if I set up isdn, and can't seem to understand english well enough to realize that thier answers make no sense.
The account started out as a local isp (owned by the big newspaper here of all things) that decided not to stay in that bussiness and transfered all accounts to mindspring which got bought out shortly there after.
Mycroft
As the sibling post points out, cases with doors set up with proper strength magnets (and free enough hinges) pop open easily from the tray pushing into them from inside.
The benifits are likely acoustic (my cooler master is pretty quite, moreso with the door shut) and perhaps airflow if designed that way.
The only other benifit I can see to a door is locking it, not much of one in most cases, but some phb types migh get warm fuzzies from it.
Mycroft
I'll second this. I got one cheap a while back.
It killed a LOT of noise I wasn't even aware of till I moved everything over to it, expecially with the door closed.
It's quite a bit cooler than the old tower was as well.
Mycroft
FWIW I used to go to a particular small shop that sold custom built computers and such untill the owner got offered a really good job just as the cost savings of a diy computer droped low enough to make his margins razor thin.
Well sometime around 92-94 (IIRC) he posted a big sign saying he no longer carried or recomended conner hard drives, and if asked to order/install one he would do so but you had to take up all warrenty issues directly with conner yourself. Bellow that he had documentation where where he'd spent 10 weeks trying to get a succesfull replacement for one, four round trips with rma hassles followed by conner ingnoring him for the last two weeks (it taking an average of a week of him calling to get each rma #) before finally sending him a check for the drive, with him eating the shipping costs on the returned drives.
This was meerly the worst one, he said he'd had some kind of hassle with nearly a third of the conners he'd sold sofar that year.
Mycroft
So you're saying people buy cars that reflect thier personaly desired penis size?
I suppose you consider anything faster than a 486 a penis extender?
Some people see thier car as more than just how to get from point a to b. Some do not. I used to be mostly in the latter category untill I had the money to buy a nicer car ('99 Mustang convertable), and now I'm in the other category.
It's just alot of fun to drive around back (but not to back! not the best ground clearance) in early evening in nice weather with the top down.
Do I need it? no not really, my old Aspire (barely more than 1/3 the engine size) got me around well enough using just over half the gas per unit distance. But the Mustang is just plain fun.
Mycroft
Somewhat related is the people who take checks drawn on 'the west Bank of the Missippi" or signed by Mini Mouse.
I recall seeing both of those on some pbs show on check fraud and related things.
Mycroft
You'd have to read the Right Niven stories ("Pack Protector" and others in his future history series) and Heinlein stories ("The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" mostly).
Mycroft
Yep, if you want an actor goto hollywood, want a a scholar there's a few good institutions, want almost any kind of person there's a place to go, but if you want somone completely different get a belter.
Mycroft
Yeah I could imagine a small neutronium ball could be quite usefull to ARM. For example you could use it to ****BING***Sorry you have intruded on ARM bussiness and this post has been terminated, and ARM will reimburse you the $0.00 you have paid so far on this post. Thank you for your co-operation ****BING**** would make a pretty big bang though. Oh crap said the wrong thing.
Mycroft
A year? wow. I assumed they sent the latest version when they did the mailings (no broadband here). well I just might try it sooner then. I now know not to trust it with a my mbr and have a quick fix handy.
Mycroft
Some sectors do expect some salaried jobs to be more than 40/week. Resturaunt managers are generally expected to work about 50.
It used to be (not shure how the changes a while back effected this) that if you were salaried you had an 'effective' hourly rate, this was what you'd be paid as an hourly employee to get the same pay for the same hours (including 1.5 pay for everything over 40) and if you consistantly worked more than the hours used to figure this base pay they had to compensate you for the extra overtime. I think the timeframe used to figure this was quarterly.
So if you made $600 a week for a 50 hour salaried job, but wound up working an average of 60 hours they owed you another 200/week for those hours. Of course in many cases if this happened they likely figured the extra 10 hours a week you were spending was because you were incompetent and couldn't do the job in the normal time, unless you had a good reason (such as boosting the bottom line more than proportionate for example).
Mycroft
Hmm good point. 1/12 of a light year is a fairly good range.
Mycroft
May I ask which version of ubuntu you were using. all 4.1 for amd64 had listed in it's grub boot was various ubuntu kernal options (including smp on a single processor system?!?!).
I suspect 4.1 for amd64 was released fairly incomplete.
I might try again later, but 4.1 was such a pain to deal with I hesistate to do so soon.
Mycroft
Well I've already made great headway on the middle of those three things your relative Heinrich did. My poetry is so-so on a good day. And despite a few years in my late teens where it seemed a serious option I've decided against the remaining feat.
Space is pretty big(well actually much much much much bigger than that, see it's entry in the hhgttg for a more impressive understatement that falls mindbogglingly short). Out that far I would think the odds so low that a mass detector with a few au range would likely never see Kobold's remains even if it spent a millineum cruising around the Kuipier belt.
Mycroft
What I wanted was dual boot. My first preference would have been for it to be installed on the SAME hard drive as the distro itself (since I can press one fkey durring the bios bootup to choose boot device) or failing that to have the sense to do the obvious and check for other os's and add them to the boot menu in grub (or lilo or whichever they want to use). Or at the very least allow me to tell it what os's are where and add them in like distro's have been doing for many years now.
I simply found it to be broken. I'm told the complete misshandling of file types is likely gnome and not ubuntu, but the complete misshandling of dual-boot and the mbr isn't.
I'm sorry but handling the mbr that way on disk that's already formatted is simply irresponsible.
Essentially installing ubuntu rendered most of my data and software unaccessable without doing things most joe's wouldn't know how to do.
They seem to be targetting the masses here, but you won't succede in that if the first thing you do is wreck Joe's computer(joe won't know how to restore his mbr).
IIRC this was the first 64bit release, and I'm pretty shure there's been one since, so I'm hoping they iron out the problems. Untill they get the critical ones fixed this is still a beta distro at best IMHO.
I have some hope for them, but they are not there as of 4.1. I intend to eventually try the 32bit ver on a seperate system and see if it's more mature, I shure hope so.
Mycroft
Most bios's now support choosing boot device order, some also support choosing it without having to go into the bios setup.
My last two mb's have a list of hotkeys that include one to choose boot device. That was my intent, install everything on one hdd and press TWO keys to cause the bios to goto the ubuntu drive when I wanted to boot into that.
Mycroft
My point was most people don't have a preference if they don't have a clue(on anything). you implied they would because they didn't have a clue, wich makes NO sense, how can you have a preference for x over y if you don't even know about x or y?
Mycroft
He just robbed wells fargo coaches, 28 in all. He pointed a shotgun, but never fired it.
the poems:
He was a bit of an odd duck, but he did seem to have some outstanding characteristics.
you get several good reference, not all in complete agreement on details, from the first google page.
Anyone stupid enough to pull a 10meter chunk of mostly neutronium abord ship is stupid enough to need weeding from the gene pool. The first tug will show you it's got much more mas than the craft doing the tugging. there'd be a few other tell tales as well if they do any checking at all.
Mycroft
It did not. I repeated the install after discovering the problem and looked carefully for any options concerning the boot sector or anything even remotely related, it did not at any point give me the option of not overwriting the boot sector or dual booting. :"Also most people would like to install Grub on their MBR, since they don't even know what it is." HUH?!? If they don't know what it is how can they have a preference. And if they did why would they want all thier existing software and data suddenly rendered unreachable?
Aslo I was specifically watching for that step in the install as I've installed other distro's that default to hda0 and wanted to be shure to put the disto and bootloader on the correct drive. I was able to select the drive for the distro, but no drive or multiboot options were given with respect to the bootloader, nor even an option not to install a bootloader.
The specific version with the faulty behaviour is "Version 4.10 (AMD64/EM64T Edition)" according to the install disk itself.
Perhaps you have a later or earlier version or the 32bit version that tells you it's going to overwrite the boot sector of another hdd than the one it's being installed to or even lets you avoid it, but not 4.10 for amd64.
Also I'm not shure how you come to the conclusion
The default should be dual boot unless going into a clean machine. Linux distro's have been able to detect windows xp partitions for some time now.With windows dominance on the desktop assuming that no one installing your os would want to keep access to thier windows partition/hard-drive is simply arrogance or stupidity that doesn't belong in a distro that apears to marketting itself to the masses (or would like to think so). I sincerely hope these errors are just because amd64 is new for them and they forgott to lable 4.1/amd64 as beta.
Mycroft
My mom's familly is from south-eastern Missouri(bootheel area), fairly near the border, and can trace one line chunk of our back ancestry to Germany, the other lines almost all go back to Ireland(except the one native).
My Dad's side go back to california, but moved there when about time his dad died (when he was 14) but traces back to Ireland in just a couple generations. It's also possible 'Black Bart' was a relative ('amusingly eccentric' one at that google it and try to rember I'm several generations removed:) ) considering he was in the right places at the right times and a few other things.
Actually there's been two anouncements of planet candidates. The nearer one close to Pluto's size and the other comfortably larger. I forget which one, but one of them has a small moon (sound familiar?) both in the region of the Kuipier(sp?) belt.
Mycroft
"This is a global world, after all... "
Dan Quale?!? Is that you?
(I jest, no offence intended)
Mycroft
My grandparents had so many kids My cousins number in the dozens, the eldest is nearing retirement and the youngest is in highschool.
This isn't counting second or third cousins.
Good thing most of them live quite a distance away, it'd suck having to ask "am I related to you" before deciding whether to be attracted to a nice looking gal of the right age:)
I was under the impression the neutronium cyclynder didn't have to be of infinite length, shouldn't frame-dragging for temporal transit work as long as the mass and density are sufficient and spinning fast enough to create the desired distortion? The figure I remember is hight=10Km diameter=2Km and rotational speed such that surface velocity was 1/2c.
Mycroft
Yup, was worried I might get it wrong since I couldn't remember all three terms.
Polygyny: multiple wives.
Polyandry: multiple husbands.
Polygamy: Eigther of the above
Thanks for the correction.
Mycroft
I can choose which drive to boot from with my current bios, no need to fiddle with the hardware, and that was the plan. I was expecting Ubuntu(dunno why i always think an m belongs there, personal glitch) to ask how I wanted to handle that, it never did, just went merrily along and toasted a totaly different drive's bootsector. At the very least it could have detected the winxp boot sector and gave me a dual boot option like other distro's, considering how sizable a chunk of people(using linux) dual boot it's downright stupid (or extreemly arrogant) not to at least offer it outside of a server oriented distro. They didn't even provide a warning or a notice, my first clue was the next time I booted the system and couldn't get to anything but ubuntu.
I was however unaware that the mime-type scramble was likely a gnome thing(a very stupid one imho, I could understand if it guessed wrong on an obscure file type, or at least had all the *iso's as mp3's, but some at random?!?!?!). To be honest while there are times I prefer kde, gnome is usually my choice (I like having the option of both to tell the truth).
And as I said, this was with the amd64 version, it's possible some of these mistakes were from being so new. But if your going to put out beta software you should lable it as such. Those two mistakes alone are enough to make me wait a while before risking my system on something beta at best again.
Myroft
Microsoft has been found to be a monopoly. Under US law this changes some of the rules, and not in microsofts favor (not that you can tell by results, but theoretically speaking at least).
Mycroft (not a lawyer, not employed by MS APPLE or the DOJ, etc.)