She says she signed up a Yahoo account, bought one book from Borders.com and promptly received spam thereafter.
Sooooo.... if Borders _and_ Yahoo both say they there's no way the e-mail could have been sent out by either of them -- (and if the reporter is completely accurate about her sequence of events) -- how did the company get her e-mail address?
Either someone's lying, is mistaken, or her e-mail address was "created" through some sort of bruteforce e-mail address creation application.
I understand and agree with many of the comments here that this package wasn't packed well, but does anyone really believe that this package was dropped a couple of times?
The sheer destruction enacted on every single piece of equipment shipped... my GOD! Someone destroyed these contents. Maybe it fell once, but this thing looks like a train hit it -- or a few well placed crow-bar whacks.
It's been this way for years. Log on to a BBS and you use the SysOps preferred BBS software and e-mail client. I don't see anyone complaining about AOL's forcing folks to use their e-mail client.
We're not talking about rights. And I see nothing wrong with Microsoft forcing me to use Microsoft e-mail clients on their ISP. If Microsoft wants to let me use Eudora or TheBat!, that's their privilege, not my right.
>It's just amazing to me how little perspective the average American has in situations like this
>(even our leaders), and how short and selective our memories are.
I'm not too surprised; we're cultural isolationists. How often do you see stories about Canada or Mexico politics or policies on the evening news? These guys are right in our yards and we pay them so little attention, not to mention the rest of the world.
Companies like Sega, Nintendo, Sony, and their developers work work very to make sure console games aren't buggy. And considering how difficult it is to produce bug-free code, they do a pretty darn good job, if not a perfect one.
Fortunately, a lot of very experienced console developers will develop for XBox, but what of those who are used to PC development and patch-releases? An what of bugs on the OS level? Might the hard drive be for "Quake4IPpatcha.exe" or worse, Xbox SP1-6a?
Maybe the era of the bug-free console game is over.
But if I could, I'd probably erect a see-through, albeit tinted, plastic pyramid on the top of the walls. I'd then dangle some colorized lights in the middle (selectable, of course). I'd probably place four speakers on each side, too.
But, alas, I must forevermore stare at plush-grey.
>My personal favorites in the community wireless world are Seattle Wireless and Green Bay Professional Packet Radio
This NYC hook-up really isn't all that much different from a couple of HAMs setting up a repeater to shoot voices a few more dozen miles because the closest repeater can't do it.
Of course, the government owns the airwaves, you do have to get a license to broadcast packet or voice, and usually these repeaters are controlled by clubs which require membership -- all this before you can use the repeater.
But even with all those hurdles, I'm with you. I can't wait for stuff like this to pick up some momentum.
>The challenge for newspapers is the same one >it's been for nearly a half century. It isn't >technological. It's creative. They don't tell >us things we don't know.
Mr. Katz, you have to read newspapers more often.
You're right if your inference here is that they repeat what you saw last night on your local news.
However, you can open up nearly any newspaper and get a much more in-depth story on any pressing topic. For instance, we've all heard about the elections in Iran. Well, I should say, we've all seen/heard truncated versions of that story.
Well, reporters have certainly filed stories from Iran's streets, ones that have citizens' comments and more.
These stories are in newspapers. (Some of them are on the Web, to be sure, but perhaps in not as tidy a package as a newspaper.)
I'm all for newspapers becoming electronic; that's not my particular beef with your story. Rather it's this idea that they are just too old, and too far gone to worry anymore. Not true.
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I want to know about one more part of the story.
She says she signed up a Yahoo account, bought one book from Borders.com and promptly received spam thereafter.
Sooooo.... if Borders _and_ Yahoo both say they there's no way the e-mail could have been sent out by either of them -- (and if the reporter is completely accurate about her sequence of events) -- how did the company get her e-mail address?
Either someone's lying, is mistaken, or her e-mail address was "created" through some sort of bruteforce e-mail address creation application.
Cheers,
Mike...
Not only was it demoed, but folks on the official beta program (i.e. the company I work for) have had a copy of it for two weeks.
I understand and agree with many of the comments here that this package wasn't packed well, but does anyone really believe that this package was dropped a couple of times?
... my GOD! Someone destroyed these contents. Maybe it fell once, but this thing looks like a train hit it -- or a few well placed crow-bar whacks.
The sheer destruction enacted on every single piece of equipment shipped
The stuff that blows up and makes more fodder for rotten.com.
Hey, guys, this is Microsoft's online service.
It's been this way for years. Log on to a BBS and you use the SysOps preferred BBS software and e-mail client. I don't see anyone complaining about AOL's forcing folks to use their e-mail client.
We're not talking about rights. And I see nothing wrong with Microsoft forcing me to use Microsoft e-mail clients on their ISP. If Microsoft wants to let me use Eudora or TheBat!, that's their privilege, not my right.
>It's just amazing to me how little perspective the average American has in situations like this
>(even our leaders), and how short and selective our memories are.
I'm not too surprised; we're cultural isolationists. How often do you see stories about Canada or Mexico politics or policies on the evening news? These guys are right in our yards and we pay them so little attention, not to mention the rest of the world.
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Companies like Sega, Nintendo, Sony, and their developers work work very to make sure console games aren't buggy. And considering how difficult it is to produce bug-free code, they do a pretty darn good job, if not a perfect one.
Fortunately, a lot of very experienced console developers will develop for XBox, but what of those who are used to PC development and patch-releases? An what of bugs on the OS level? Might the hard drive be for "Quake4IPpatcha.exe" or worse, Xbox SP1-6a?
Maybe the era of the bug-free console game is over.
m
If you say a party "rocked," and your proof of this is a logfile, you might be a geek.
Not to mention the Patented Burp. It locks in freshness, donchaknow.
That's it?! I thought little, plastic notes jumped out of the speakers! I am sorely disappointed.
>Going by Evans Data's "research" they might as well have used the results from a Slashdot poll.
/. poll?
Considering those Sony execs creating a movie reviewer, who says CNet (or Evans) didn't use a
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And, well, I wish I could decorate it somehow.
Unfortunately, the folks here won't let us do it.
But if I could, I'd probably erect a see-through, albeit tinted, plastic pyramid on the top of the walls. I'd then dangle some colorized lights in the middle (selectable, of course). I'd probably place four speakers on each side, too.
But, alas, I must forevermore stare at plush-grey.
>My personal favorites in the community wireless world are Seattle Wireless and Green Bay Professional Packet Radio
This NYC hook-up really isn't all that much different from a couple of HAMs setting up a repeater to shoot voices a few more dozen miles because the closest repeater can't do it.
Of course, the government owns the airwaves, you do have to get a license to broadcast packet or voice, and usually these repeaters are controlled by clubs which require membership -- all this before you can use the repeater.
But even with all those hurdles, I'm with you. I can't wait for stuff like this to pick up some momentum.
>it's been for nearly a half century. It isn't
>technological. It's creative. They don't tell
>us things we don't know.
Mr. Katz, you have to read newspapers more often.
You're right if your inference here is that they repeat what you saw last night on your local news.
However, you can open up nearly any newspaper and get a much more in-depth story on any pressing topic. For instance, we've all heard about the elections in Iran. Well, I should say, we've all seen/heard truncated versions of that story.
Well, reporters have certainly filed stories from Iran's streets, ones that have citizens' comments and more.
These stories are in newspapers. (Some of them are on the Web, to be sure, but perhaps in not as tidy a package as a newspaper.)
I'm all for newspapers becoming electronic; that's not my particular beef with your story. Rather it's this idea that they are just too old, and too far gone to worry anymore. Not true.
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