It sounds more as though the problem is the lack of a universally agreed upon definition of "technical conference", and just how much and what kind of "and some other stuff" one might reasonably expect at one nowadays.
I somewhat hesitate to use the more "jagged" of the two words that mean entirely unclothed in conjunction with this particular issue, but I think it much better describes the threat.
That is not exactly the story that is being told. I can't say what is true but the claim is that they would make a big deal out of this if the talk went on. That is not the same thing as giving their opinion.
Our opinion is that our ability to make your life a living hell outweighs your ability to not let yourself be pushed around.
Perhaps if one were to begin the conversation with "Hey, guys, you know why ain't none of you gettin' any?", and then proceed to explain how their lack of maturity is not to their advantage.
How obvious something is depends upon the observer, and is not necessarily objectively measureable.
There are some women who see four colors instead of three (and ironically enough produce more children with color blindness). The majority of the population would disagree with them over what is or is not obvious. So which one is right?
Neither, it's not objective.
How far in advance did The Ada Initiative inform you that they wanted veto power over whatever was presented?
Me neither, so I checked out the Wikipedia article and discovered this gem:
HPA can be used by various booting and diagnostic utilities, normally in conjunction with the BIOS. An example of this implementation is the Phoenix FirstBIOS, which uses BEER (Boot Engineering Extension Record) and PARTIES (Protected Area Run Time Interface Extension Services).[3]
Assuming that citation is valid, I have to give props to the Phoenix Technology guys for taking the time to give awesome acronyms to pretty mundane tech.
When you have BEER and PARTIES, at least you know the Host is an obliging one.
Just had an additional thought - Wouldn't that screw up an already formatted drive though? Like when I'm trying to transplant an old hard drive as a computer's new main drive?
Why yes, it would, as suddenly you have a drive with a partition that extends into an area beyond which the drive reports as its end.
Google "gigabyte" "hpa" "raid" to learn how it's been an unpleasant surprise for many.
I discovered it pretty much by accident after running into strange problems trying to do TiVo drive upgrades.
Basically you dare not power up one of their motherboards with any hard drive attached unless you have a "sacrificial" drive attached to the first drive position.
(IDE/PATA comes before SATA if the board has both)
You can install a drive to that position, power up, and then format it and install the OS you're planning to run, just always keep it connected at that position, even when you're doing something for which you don't need that drive or OS.
Speaking of nasty surprises, just in case it slipped by you, google Dell ATX power supply to learn of something else for which you need to watch out.
Unfortunately those Gigabyte boards also slap an HPA on the first hard drive they find at boot and there's nowhere in the BIOS settings to defeat that.
Those who don't believe you should Google "The Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006"*, and anybody who doesn't know about it has no business offering an opinion on the current woes of the Postal Service.
I will quibble that they actually aren't losing money. The 2006 act is taking it from them to fund pensions for employees not yet born.
*Which really should have been known as "The Republican Plot to Murder the Postal Service in Slow Motion" of 2006.
I have found that I like coffee best with nothing added.
No water, no heat, no force applied to the beans to reduce them to smaller pieces, no transporting of them from where they grew to anywhere near where I am...
HFCS is processed by my taste buds differently from sugar cane sugar (which is why Mountain Dew no longer tastes the same or as good), and that's reason enough for me to want it banned.*
On the anecdotal side, I wonder if there isn't a correlation (regardless of whether there's any causation going on) between the rise in obesity and the rise in HFCS replacement of "real" sugar.
*Actually what I want is for the government to quit doing stuff that monkeys with the price of both.
Social engineering is tricky enough when it's government programs. I'd love to hear a plan to get the private sector on board with your pet theory about how to change the behaviors of large populations.
The private sector is all about changing the behaviors of large populations.
The original phrase was "too big to be allowed to fail", but of course that was too long and complicated for the talking heads, so it got shortened to something that doesn't say what it's supposed to mean.
If GM had gone under because the government didn't help, the government wouldn't have helped Chrysler either, and when both of them went under, they would have taken down the suppliers that they and Ford rely on, which would have taken down Ford. The guy who runs Ford said so, and I think he's in a position to know.
The domino effect from that would pretty much have destroyed Michigan, and done severe damage to Ohio and other surrounding states.
"Where do you live that you have no choice of cell carriers?"
It's not a lack of choice of cell carriers, it's having a cell phone means having to deal with a cell phone carrier, which is sort of like having your choice of slow, painful, fatal diseases. You still die before your time and do so slowly and painfully.
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It sounds more as though the problem is the lack of a universally agreed upon definition of "technical conference", and just how much and what kind of "and some other stuff" one might reasonably expect at one nowadays.
The BSides website, to me, is unhelpfully vague.
The conference organizers made the final decision
...under a veiled threat, mind you.
Veiled?
I somewhat hesitate to use the more "jagged" of the two words that mean entirely unclothed in conjunction with this particular issue, but I think it much better describes the threat.
That is not exactly the story that is being told. I can't say what is true but the claim is that they would make a big deal out of this if the talk went on. That is not the same thing as giving their opinion.
Our opinion is that our ability to make your life a living hell outweighs your ability to not let yourself be pushed around.
Outrage is called for.
Maybe, I even think so, but not on the basis you suggest.
I think you missed seeing an invisible sarcasm tag on that one.
As in "Outrage is called for. Anybody know if Nancy Grace will quote us a bulk rate?"
Perhaps if one were to begin the conversation with "Hey, guys, you know why ain't none of you gettin' any?", and then proceed to explain how their lack of maturity is not to their advantage.
How obvious something is depends upon the observer, and is not necessarily objectively measureable.
There are some women who see four colors instead of three (and ironically enough produce more children with color blindness). The majority of the population would disagree with them over what is or is not obvious. So which one is right?
Neither, it's not objective.
How far in advance did The Ada Initiative inform you that they wanted veto power over whatever was presented?
5 months? 5 weeks? 5 days? 5 minutes?
Nobody is arguing that we shouldn't discuss the topic in public.
“No, they’re here and they’re not leaving. They told me they’ll make it into a bigger problem if you do your talk.”
Are you quite sure?
Also, you know - private group, no duty to 1st Amendment, they have the right to censor whatever they damn well please.
"“No, they’re here and they’re not leaving. They told me they’ll make it into a bigger problem if you do your talk.”
More like they want the right to make someone else censor whatever they damn well please in that someone else's private space.
...a modest proposal of mine.
Only when they go to Applebees.
They don't serve minors at Applebees. Not that I've seen anyway.
Well, they're not on the menu, but if you know anyone on the kitchen staff just tell them you want the "special veal".
...and you want me to pay for the hardware?
Me neither, so I checked out the Wikipedia article and discovered this gem:
Assuming that citation is valid, I have to give props to the Phoenix Technology guys for taking the time to give awesome acronyms to pretty mundane tech.
When you have BEER and PARTIES, at least you know the Host is an obliging one.
Just had an additional thought - Wouldn't that screw up an already formatted drive though? Like when I'm trying to transplant an old hard drive as a computer's new main drive?
Why yes, it would, as suddenly you have a drive with a partition that extends into an area beyond which the drive reports as its end.
Google "gigabyte" "hpa" "raid" to learn how it's been an unpleasant surprise for many.
I discovered it pretty much by accident after running into strange problems trying to do TiVo drive upgrades.
Basically you dare not power up one of their motherboards with any hard drive attached unless you have a "sacrificial" drive attached to the first drive position.
(IDE/PATA comes before SATA if the board has both)
You can install a drive to that position, power up, and then format it and install the OS you're planning to run, just always keep it connected at that position, even when you're doing something for which you don't need that drive or OS.
Speaking of nasty surprises, just in case it slipped by you, google Dell ATX power supply to learn of something else for which you need to watch out.
Any chance the original problem was one or more deteriorating electrolytic capacitors?
There were still some of the bogus "capacitor plague" caps working their way through the supply chain back when that thing was built.
Unfortunately those Gigabyte boards also slap an HPA on the first hard drive they find at boot and there's nowhere in the BIOS settings to defeat that.
Those who don't believe you should Google "The Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006"*, and anybody who doesn't know about it has no business offering an opinion on the current woes of the Postal Service.
I will quibble that they actually aren't losing money. The 2006 act is taking it from them to fund pensions for employees not yet born.
*Which really should have been known as "The Republican Plot to Murder the Postal Service in Slow Motion" of 2006.
You know the AC plagarized that whole post, right?
http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com/2012/12/thinking-unthinkable.html
and as for how she wound up a single parent
http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com/2012/07/news-from-war-on-women-front.html
I have found that I like coffee best with nothing added.
No water, no heat, no force applied to the beans to reduce them to smaller pieces, no transporting of them from where they grew to anywhere near where I am...
HFCS is processed by my taste buds differently from sugar cane sugar (which is why Mountain Dew no longer tastes the same or as good), and that's reason enough for me to want it banned.*
On the anecdotal side, I wonder if there isn't a correlation (regardless of whether there's any causation going on) between the rise in obesity and the rise in HFCS replacement of "real" sugar.
*Actually what I want is for the government to quit doing stuff that monkeys with the price of both.
It's the DATA that's racist!
Or reality?
Well, reality does have a well-known liberal bias.
Social engineering is tricky enough when it's government programs. I'd love to hear a plan to get the private sector on board with your pet theory about how to change the behaviors of large populations.
The private sector is all about changing the behaviors of large populations.
It's called advertising.
Maybe we can take the time to find out why this is the case, and correct it...
Start with abolishing prohibition.
Or we could just prohibit abolishment.
The original phrase was "too big to be allowed to fail", but of course that was too long and complicated for the talking heads, so it got shortened to something that doesn't say what it's supposed to mean.
Now if only nobody believed in "too big to jail".
If GM had gone under because the government didn't help, the government wouldn't have helped Chrysler either, and when both of them went under, they would have taken down the suppliers that they and Ford rely on, which would have taken down Ford. The guy who runs Ford said so, and I think he's in a position to know.
The domino effect from that would pretty much have destroyed Michigan, and done severe damage to Ohio and other surrounding states.
"Where do you live that you have no choice of cell carriers?"
It's not a lack of choice of cell carriers, it's having a cell phone means having to deal with a cell phone carrier, which is sort of like having your choice of slow, painful, fatal diseases. You still die before your time and do so slowly and painfully.