Like I mentioned, a lot of other sites report on different things out there. Even the article labeled "the Slashdot Effect" took in account other sites. The argument you are falling into is the same one that has played in court numerous times already. The linking to another site. If I want to link to Disney... I don't have to pay to do so or let them know, that's legal. If I link to Joe Smo and his interesting web page, the same rules apply. Whether or not anyone or EVERYONE follows the link from my page to Joe's or Disneys site I'm not to blaim.
Yet another analogy
When a club hits a preset maximum occupancy they are required to refuse admittance until there is room for the number of people coming in. Now when someone rents say the Cow Palace they rent a certain amount of space and pay accordingly. If the conference that they are holding ends up being larger then they expected they can either have written in their contract (like most web hosting companies do) that they'll open more space up for x amount of dollars. Or they can already have it rented out and which case they can have in their contract (Like some other web hosting companies do) that there will be a threshold and once met visiters are turned away. When you sign the contract you AGREE to the terms of the contract. Some people gamble that they won't need the burst bandwidth and they should have to pay if it's used... whether by paying people or what have you.
In other words... read your contract and be happy with it before you sign it. Don't cry because you have to pay for not paying attention. Some hosting companies do meter bandwidth ACCORDING TO PROTOCOL. They may charge more but it's for a reason.
The difference is that/. hasn't brought down EVERY page. In fact if you follow/. you know certain subject bring a lot of interest. Some do not.
Since you like analogies, If your local radio station reports the fact that the local market has a mistaken sale of say milk for 50 cent a gallon, and the store ends up loosing hundreds because no one went through the trouble to annouce the fact and continued to accept the purchases. Would the Radio Station be liable? After all the small market would of definatly be wiped out on milk... would of lost hundreds if not thousands and this would not of happened in the radio station hadn't reportred it... after it's a "small" market.
The problem is that/. would be considered a news source... therefore the DoS "attack" wouldn't be considered malicious.
Billing wise? It would be hard to defend in court that/. had a malicious intent on their business. At worse they may be required to do their best to notify website owners... other then that no foul.
NOTE: I am not an attorney, but if you look how these type of cases have gone before. This is how it would go.
I've had Verizon for years and I have to say that no matter where I am... I ALWAYS can make the call. I've been out in BFE... everyone else with me couldn't get out. And I was getting 2 bars analog on a crappy Motorola post-flip.
One nice thing is that Verizon pushes Tri-Mode phones... Meaning no matter where you are, more then likely your phone will have a network to talk to. The only thing better is if they tossed in a fourth satelite band and you were able to hop to that in case I ever visit the Mojave.:-)
Though I was told by a Park Ranger that Verizon regularly calls him and asks where they have the worse coverage in their radios and cell phones... and then they go their with their testing equipment. Usually a basic looking White jeep with antennas all over it.;-)
Unfortionatly I can't seem to find the link... but there was a company that made a plug-in for outlook that caused it to automatically re-encrypt the message with a random key after a set amount of time. (They called it making the message disapper>) To view the message you would have to use the plug-in...
I never thought much about it. But in thinking about it right now I realize it could be done fairly easily. The problem is that just as easily that you can impliment it. I'm sure it could be circumvented without too much work.
Encrypting can also protect while stored. But you have to remember to re-encrypt.
Two ways I've gone about this was once I made a pdf with a password of an important letter and sent that. That automatically stops the basic forward or copy paste methods of sending it on. The second was I used a program called EyeMage and encrypted a number of messages to a friend who worked for a nosy boss. All the boss saw were a series of photos of family and scenes sometimes "resent" that had messages hidden inside. This also makes it a little more difficult to forward... but not copy paste.
More then once I've been given a document I can't open but need the information inside (I'm a graphic Artist). So I automatically open it in a text editor so first see what type of file it is... and second see if I can get the info easily (and recreate if necessary).
Word is bad about saving info. You with find previously deleted text, revisions, computer names, account names, sometime passwords embedded into the document. I would have to say that Word is one of the most insecure formats in which to deliver a message.
BTW - this same way has gotten me past passwords more then once.
There is only the amount of privacy that you force upon yourself.
The only way to have anything not exposed would be to of encrypted the messages for each person.
The next step? Go the Microsoft way and have either a timed encrypted message or some way to have a message self-delete after so much time. Both are possible but either add it's own complexities or possiblities of comprimise. (ie. the timed message abitliy is out there but basically you view a message which exists on an external server and is displayed on your machine via a doc.write comand. Not the best way.
A project that mus be done, should be done what would be best whether in a scripting (Perl, TCL, PhP) or Programming Language (C, C++, Obj-C, Java). Though true that both C & Perl can be compile into run-level code, Perl isn't as optimised as C can be. And in the same way Scripting Languages that Haven become Programming Languages (ie. Visual Basic) has bcome a bane because of the amount of slow buggy crap that ends up out there because it's written in VB.
<RANT>
We use a system that is basically an Access Database manipulated by Visual Basic, and then compiled to make it look pretty. It's dog slow.. buggy as all hell and has slowed down a system that we use to be able to supply a quote in 5 to 10 minutes to taking almost half an hour. So I am biased against scripting turned into a programming language or compiling a script and calling it a program.
</RANT>
Mind you I have done both programming and a lot of scripting and I realize that there are strengths and weeknesses in both. But, and here's a big but, when a boss looks at the big picture they will look at costs in both training AND upkeep. Plus will look at what they know. They need a widget to access their database on a terminal... Use C/C++. Access the same daatabase from the web use Perl/PhP. It's not fair... it's just the way it goes.
The reason I mentioned that page was less Steve and his "Software" and more for his ability to write in Assebler. One of the few people now a days who do... unless working on hardware specific issues.
And why write GUI portion in Assembly? The Atari DID NOT HAVE A PRE-EXISTING GUI. You had to make your own.
Yes I used to write Assembly also... For my T199/4A. Understandably I found it a bit harder to learn and therefore more of a challenge to do then writing in Ti-Basic. And only did LOGO on my Adam.
These people won't be Microsoft programers who don't know how to write tight code...
Seriously todays programmers aren't taught tight code... and giving yourself limitations like these you would have to. When write in the "popular" languages of today the overhead alone would kill the likelyhood of a programmer just "throwing something together".
Here is where Assembly is King.
Of course, there is one other option, and probably one that we'll see used if SCO is stupid enough to press their case. If someone tries to blackmail you, there's always the possibility of blackmailing them back. IBM has enough software patents to make SCO (or anyone else) wonder if they actually invented anything themselves.
Also how enforcable is a patent that hasn't been enforced for a long time. If I'm not correct, patents left to laspe or aren't enforced within a "reasonable" amount of time are pretty much thrown out.
I've got one question... Who gave SCO the trick gun that shoots them in the face?
My boss was nice to me, mind you small company (7 employees) and if I screw up we all hurt. So even though we officially didn't make goal we got a performance bonus and a christmas bonus.
We were supposed to have a dinner, but it's been flooding here in the Bay Area so a couple of us wouldn't of been able to make it.
Truthfully I think it was having his wife call and sy it took half an hour to go one exit on 680.:-)>
So dinner got rescheduled for after the first... (YEAH RIGHT)
Gotta love working for small companies... at times.
Just throw in a remote controled door... and make sure that it's a beer fridge (ie. a junk fridge for the guy to fill up with his favorite brew and not worry about wasting room better spent to broccoli and leftovers that never get eaten.)
Well supposedly Lindows has been working on getting AoL to work on it... And currentlty comes preinstalled with Netscape and AIM so he could check his AoL email... Instant message his AoL friends and still have a decent system.
Now add in the fact that instead of paying $149 (who pays $500) for Office you pay nothing and use OpenOffice. And you're set.
I would consider this "News for Nerds" in that its changing the place we work in. Maybe you've heard of it, it's this great place with lots of information called the Internet (Al Gore invented it). Well some of us, of course not me, actually worry about losing the ability to get at this information and follow what the US Federal Government (And other Nations Governments) do in passing laws related to it. The fact that they are bypassing a lot of our freedoms to surveil us, PLUS increasing sentances from seemingly long sentences (Murder & Rape gets shorter) to insanly long life sentences for something that may or may not even cost a life.
The MIT Kerberos development team issued a warning and patch on its Web site.
Apple Computer confirmed that its Mac OS X operating system contains the vulnerability, which has been fixed through a recent security advisory, available through the software's automatic update mechanism.
Several sellers of Unix and Unix-like operating systems, including Red Hat, Debian, FreeBSD, Sun and NetBSD, said that their software was affected by the issue, and issued fixes. HP said it was investigating the bug's impact.
Microsoft said it is still investigating how Windows is affected by the problem.
The relevant patches are available from the companies' Web sites, or through the CERT advisory on its Web site.
EVERY Operating System will have exploits. It's all a matter on how it's addressed. M$ Still hasn't learned to patch & go. I use Win 98se, NT4, 2000, & XP (plus Mandrake 8 and SuSE 8) on a daily Basis. And the reboot on every other update (XP has gotten better but I love Linuxes ability to kill a service and restart a service without a reboot).
> Windows is insecure. Linux is insecure. PROGRAMS are insecure.
It won't matter that there is a "sandbox" or system running "security bot" or any other piece of code that double checks (and slows down) processes. If the API's allow open communication between each other (And they have to) then there will be exploits. The difference between M$ and Open Source ways of securing it is that M$ and their cronies either ignore it or threaten to sue it away, while Open Source has enough people digging around that if an expoit appears (sometimes in a different program) it get's looke for quicker and sometimes a patch is out within hours. I've NEVER seen M$ do that. How many times have we seen variations on the same exploit "cropping up" in various M$ products and it seem as though they just fixed IE when it "shows up" in Windows Media.
HINT M$ if you code one way in one program, you probably code the same way in another program. Buffer Over runs can be trapped and blocked, and yetthey still show up. Linux has had the same show up, so it's not perfect... just fixed faster.
I've never see a system that didn't have expoits. And I've never seen a box that couldn't be "locked down" (even windows). The difference though is that with Linux it's possible to still be usable and be locked down. Not so with Windows.
I have an in-house CD-ROM that I use for a variety of updates and such. Well the main program window had this un-needed maximize button up in the corner, so I used to to instead bring up a different window with some programs that I personally use and also a control to play some MP3's that I had spirited away on it... It's nice being the boss.
That why you always use your bosses email when you need to use a throw away address... Unless I want to be nice, then me@email.com works. (This didn't work on some of my sites. I'd add a little code that compared to a list and if it was on the list, then it'd pop up a mesage that said, "No, seriously... who are you?"
Slashdot Mirror
Yet another analogy
When a club hits a preset maximum occupancy they are required to refuse admittance until there is room for the number of people coming in. Now when someone rents say the Cow Palace they rent a certain amount of space and pay accordingly. If the conference that they are holding ends up being larger then they expected they can either have written in their contract (like most web hosting companies do) that they'll open more space up for x amount of dollars. Or they can already have it rented out and which case they can have in their contract (Like some other web hosting companies do) that there will be a threshold and once met visiters are turned away. When you sign the contract you AGREE to the terms of the contract. Some people gamble that they won't need the burst bandwidth and they should have to pay if it's used... whether by paying people or what have you.
In other words... read your contract and be happy with it before you sign it. Don't cry because you have to pay for not paying attention. Some hosting companies do meter bandwidth ACCORDING TO PROTOCOL. They may charge more but it's for a reason.
Since you like analogies, If your local radio station reports the fact that the local market has a mistaken sale of say milk for 50 cent a gallon, and the store ends up loosing hundreds because no one went through the trouble to annouce the fact and continued to accept the purchases. Would the Radio Station be liable? After all the small market would of definatly be wiped out on milk... would of lost hundreds if not thousands and this would not of happened in the radio station hadn't reportred it... after it's a "small" market.
Consider that.
True but you would get thrown in for Illegal firearms discharge and Accidental Homicide. Not murder (Malicious intent).
Billing wise? It would be hard to defend in court that /. had a malicious intent on their business. At worse they may be required to do their best to notify website owners... other then that no foul.
NOTE: I am not an attorney, but if you look how these type of cases have gone before. This is how it would go.
One nice thing is that Verizon pushes Tri-Mode phones... Meaning no matter where you are, more then likely your phone will have a network to talk to. The only thing better is if they tossed in a fourth satelite band and you were able to hop to that in case I ever visit the Mojave. :-)
Though I was told by a Park Ranger that Verizon regularly calls him and asks where they have the worse coverage in their radios and cell phones... and then they go their with their testing equipment. Usually a basic looking White jeep with antennas all over it. ;-)
I never thought much about it. But in thinking about it right now I realize it could be done fairly easily. The problem is that just as easily that you can impliment it. I'm sure it could be circumvented without too much work.
Two ways I've gone about this was once I made a pdf with a password of an important letter and sent that. That automatically stops the basic forward or copy paste methods of sending it on. The second was I used a program called EyeMage and encrypted a number of messages to a friend who worked for a nosy boss. All the boss saw were a series of photos of family and scenes sometimes "resent" that had messages hidden inside. This also makes it a little more difficult to forward... but not copy paste.
Word is bad about saving info. You with find previously deleted text, revisions, computer names, account names, sometime passwords embedded into the document. I would have to say that Word is one of the most insecure formats in which to deliver a message.
BTW - this same way has gotten me past passwords more then once.
The only way to have anything not exposed would be to of encrypted the messages for each person.
The next step? Go the Microsoft way and have either a timed encrypted message or some way to have a message self-delete after so much time. Both are possible but either add it's own complexities or possiblities of comprimise. (ie. the timed message abitliy is out there but basically you view a message which exists on an external server and is displayed on your machine via a doc.write comand. Not the best way.
A project that mus be done, should be done what would be best whether in a scripting (Perl, TCL, PhP) or Programming Language (C, C++, Obj-C, Java). Though true that both C & Perl can be compile into run-level code, Perl isn't as optimised as C can be. And in the same way Scripting Languages that Haven become Programming Languages (ie. Visual Basic) has bcome a bane because of the amount of slow buggy crap that ends up out there because it's written in VB.
<RANT>
We use a system that is basically an Access Database manipulated by Visual Basic, and then compiled to make it look pretty. It's dog slow.. buggy as all hell and has slowed down a system that we use to be able to supply a quote in 5 to 10 minutes to taking almost half an hour. So I am biased against scripting turned into a programming language or compiling a script and calling it a program.
</RANT>
Mind you I have done both programming and a lot of scripting and I realize that there are strengths and weeknesses in both. But, and here's a big but, when a boss looks at the big picture they will look at costs in both training AND upkeep. Plus will look at what they know. They need a widget to access their database on a terminal... Use C/C++. Access the same daatabase from the web use Perl/PhP. It's not fair... it's just the way it goes.
I wonder as a side. How much it cost Toms Hardware guide for all those Windows XP Licenses. After all they would need one for each CPU.
And why write GUI portion in Assembly? The Atari DID NOT HAVE A PRE-EXISTING GUI. You had to make your own.
Yes I used to write Assembly also... For my T199/4A. Understandably I found it a bit harder to learn and therefore more of a challenge to do then writing in Ti-Basic. And only did LOGO on my Adam.
These people won't be Microsoft programers who don't know how to write tight code...
Seriously todays programmers aren't taught tight code... and giving yourself limitations like these you would have to. When write in the "popular" languages of today the overhead alone would kill the likelyhood of a programmer just "throwing something together".
Here is where Assembly is King.
Also how enforcable is a patent that hasn't been enforced for a long time. If I'm not correct, patents left to laspe or aren't enforced within a "reasonable" amount of time are pretty much thrown out.
I've got one question... Who gave SCO the trick gun that shoots them in the face?
We were supposed to have a dinner, but it's been flooding here in the Bay Area so a couple of us wouldn't of been able to make it. :-)>
Truthfully I think it was having his wife call and sy it took half an hour to go one exit on 680.
So dinner got rescheduled for after the first... (YEAH RIGHT)
Gotta love working for small companies... at times.
Just throw in a remote controled door... and make sure that it's a beer fridge (ie. a junk fridge for the guy to fill up with his favorite brew and not worry about wasting room better spent to broccoli and leftovers that never get eaten.)
Well supposedly Lindows has been working on getting AoL to work on it... And currentlty comes preinstalled with Netscape and AIM so he could check his AoL email... Instant message his AoL friends and still have a decent system.
Now add in the fact that instead of paying $149 (who pays $500) for Office you pay nothing and use OpenOffice. And you're set.
You capeesh?
Most repsectable programmers I know would rather use $PROGRAM_NAME because of power and ease of use...
Most respectable programmers I know would rather use emacs because of power and ease of use...
Oh cie la vie...
I would of never thought of using Google this way.
Now how do I mod up?!?!??!
Another proof of it... Flaw opens door in Windows, Mac, Linux
EVERY Operating System will have exploits. It's all a matter on how it's addressed. M$ Still hasn't learned to patch & go. I use Win 98se, NT4, 2000, & XP (plus Mandrake 8 and SuSE 8) on a daily Basis. And the reboot on every other update (XP has gotten better but I love Linuxes ability to kill a service and restart a service without a reboot).
> Windows is insecure. Linux is insecure. PROGRAMS are insecure.
It won't matter that there is a "sandbox" or system running "security bot" or any other piece of code that double checks (and slows down) processes. If the API's allow open communication between each other (And they have to) then there will be exploits. The difference between M$ and Open Source ways of securing it is that M$ and their cronies either ignore it or threaten to sue it away, while Open Source has enough people digging around that if an expoit appears (sometimes in a different program) it get's looke for quicker and sometimes a patch is out within hours. I've NEVER seen M$ do that. How many times have we seen variations on the same exploit "cropping up" in various M$ products and it seem as though they just fixed IE when it "shows up" in Windows Media.
HINT M$ if you code one way in one program, you probably code the same way in another program. Buffer Over runs can be trapped and blocked, and yetthey still show up. Linux has had the same show up, so it's not perfect... just fixed faster.
I've never see a system that didn't have expoits. And I've never seen a box that couldn't be "locked down" (even windows). The difference though is that with Linux it's possible to still be usable and be locked down. Not so with Windows.
I have an in-house CD-ROM that I use for a variety of updates and such. Well the main program window had this un-needed maximize button up in the corner, so I used to to instead bring up a different window with some programs that I personally use and also a control to play some MP3's that I had spirited away on it... It's nice being the boss.
That why you always use your bosses email when you need to use a throw away address... Unless I want to be nice, then me@email.com works. (This didn't work on some of my sites. I'd add a little code that compared to a list and if it was on the list, then it'd pop up a mesage that said, "No, seriously... who are you?"